More CEOs deploring Brexit
https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/23...s-north-wales/
According to the Office for National Statistics (ONS), within the last quarter of 2022, the UK imported about £33billion more than it exported to the EU.
This is the worst performance of the UK export trade balance since records began in 1997.
The big question there is why do they need to be EU students?
Staffs University is a good 30+% Asian students and Keele has a fair amount of people from the far Eastern end of the globe..... do they not want/need jobs?
Or crazy idea..... what about the English students there?
Or is it more because they were not paying am adequate rate to attract anyone other than the poorest Eastern Europeans to take the roles
I know we've been over a lot thus far, but surly this is clutching at straws in a very similar vein to when we say leavers are claiming petty wins this is just as much a petty lose...
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It's highly unlikely that they need to be EU students and more that they're the ones typically looking for work in that area or sector. There's not likely to be any NEED for them to be EU students, what a bizarre way to frame it.Originally Posted by DLowe
Maybe they don't need or want the work? You know, like we are seeing in pretty much every sector across the UK where there is now a shortage of willing, hard working EU labourers that aren't being replaced by UK nationals.
Whatever they are paying will have been in line with the National Living Wage.
Oh my actual god lololol. I'm not sure the owners of the company would consider a significant loss of income "petty"
You continue to amaze me at how you're willing to sacrifice everything on the altar of Brexit.
Last edited by piman2k; 15-03-2023 at 06:49.
It's a non news worthy story.....
It should read that there is a lack of people willing to work for nowt... there certainly isnt a lack of people who could work just lack of people who are willing have the piss taken.
I would bet that if it was looked at in a non brexit focused article there would actually be bigger issues with the cost of energy, equipment and consumables alongside people spending less on weddings due to the cost of living and interest rates etc.... most likely making it impossible for the buisness to pay a decent wage meaning that it was going under regardless of brexit.
An interesting point was made on Russle Brands Rumble a few days ago regarding food prices and farmers etc.... its currently running around £3 for a cucumber in Paris and similar for peppers and a kilo of onions, quite glad we are not part of that common market.
They also pointed out that supermarkets appear to be using a "Nintendo" style marketing strategy where they purposely limit the amount out to drive demand..... I can believe this as my local asda had no fresh veg at all and what was there was on the verge of rotten, whereas the local halal super market where I go for spices and rice was piled 3ft high with the freshest peppers and tomatoes etc, and at half the price
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What planet do you live on? Seriously, where is it?
The company has SPECIFICALLY said that a lack of EU labour and a lack of UK labour willing to do the jobs since Brexit has wrecked their business model forcing them to abandon services that were previously thriving. Edit - if you read it it's about not having enough staff so they can't do big events, only smaller ones now.
So, to be clear, a direct consequence of Brexit, the labour shortage, has negatively affected their income and forced them to rethink their business.
Anything else is just stuff you have added and has no foundation in the article.
You can't say it's a non news worthy story because it doesn't also mention things that you have ad-hoc just inserted into the discussion yourself
Honestly you are so fcuking disingenuous in how you try to debate it makes my skin crawl, while also just continuing to reinforce the Brexiteer mentality of "facts don't matter because beliefs".
Last edited by piman2k; 15-03-2023 at 10:17.
Again it's nothing do with brexit...... its due to the wages paid, there's plenty of people who could work who choose not to because it's iether not financially viable for them or they feel they are worth more...
The only brexit issue is they no longer have the poor people to employ to allow them to keep churning a profit from the hype surrounding the site.
With the current climate there's no way this situation can only be fully blamed on brexit
Go on then, give us a diffrent reason why no other students want the work and why they are stuffed without the EU ones.... is it because the Asian students who come here are studying more worthwhile courses and not just using the free immigration to escape poverty and lack of opportunities which means they have a greater self worth than to accept the pay and conditions offered.
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Last edited by DLowe; 15-03-2023 at 11:47.
You are so detached from reality it is embarrassing. I am embarrassed for you.
Brexit happens.
EU workers stop coming.
Nationally recognised labour shortage occurs.
Business declares it must downsize because of labour shortage.
And in your world, it's not Brexit.
You are my favourite source of cringeworthy reality denying entertainment on the internet.
To address this edit, I don't need to. Why are you fixated on the idea that they must employ students?
They employ staff. My guess would be that students are young so cost less in the National Living Wage tier strategy and are flexible around lectures and education when the business needs them. Guessing.
Why are British Nationals not doing the work? I have no idea.
What the actual **** lolol. Asians are doing more worthwhile courses? Where have you plucked that from?
Lol, it's abundantly clear you don't really understand how International students work, nor their reasons for coming to the UK to study.
Please, carry on. It's comical how little you appear to know and embarrassing that you have to insert your own random items and then argue them.
National shortage of workers due to brexit....
Is the entire country now employed? Have we got 0 people on job seekers....
If the answer is no, then we are not short of workers and require EU imports, there are other factors that should be addressed before we need to import staff, especially for unqualified roles.
The issues are based in wages and attitudes not entirely brexit blamed, infact the opposite - the constant flow of cheap exploitable and expendable EU nationals has harmed the UK employment market, driven down rewards and led to UK nationals not wanting employment as they can't afford to live if they are employed as they want a higher standard of living than a house share poor house with other immigrant workers.
As you keep saying EU shortage, not actual people shortage, there are other issues to address.
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I plucked the Asians doing more worthwhile courses from.....
Myself been a previous student at stffs University and seeing the majority of our Asian students coming from/ hanging round the rooms where they study maths/accounting/engineering.
And that Keele University has by far the largest population of Chinese and Korean/Philippines or similar students in the country and they are primarily a medical based university, specialising in midwifery, nursing and nuclear science treatments....
Whereas during my time there the European population was more concentrated around media/arts/physical education departments, the kind of degrees that don't lead to much past the minimum wage when achieved, never mind when your studying them
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Fucck me you've done it, you've defeated me. It's like talking to a trifle
A misinformed, dishonest trifle.
According to ONS there are 1.2 million jobseekers and 1.1 million vacancies at the moment.
Even if you assume only 30% of those jobs need a specific qualification there are nearly 400,000 more jobs than there are people qualified to do them. Id call that a shortage TBF, and particularly in light of the increase in private sector wages (7.2% between Sep and Nov 2022!) youd expect there to be other nationalities that would be happy to fill them, thats the Brexit bit.
The rest seems to be a lot more DLowe personal experience rather than actual facts - Keele averages about 13% Asian students and doesnt even make the top 10 (Glasgow is 31% Chinese alone), theres no evidence that nationality plays a part in what you read at uni and because one shop has peppers doesnt mean that everywhere does, we couldnt find one for over a week recently.
I get the feeling that this would only work if we could pursuade Ernest Borgnine to drive the Isle of Wight to Portsmouth hovercraft.
As per usual.
In one last, desperate attempt to make him realise there's life outside of his town, here's a good and up to date run down from the FT about skilled and unskilled migration into the UK in 2021.
https://www.ft.com/content/27e77f3b-...2-278019f8e0f6
The crux of it is that economic migration is now at an all time high (let's not start that debate as a Brexit benefit) and this record migration is now skewed to outside the EU. Because it's now hard and expensive to get EU skilled talent in. So the government produced a scheme for non-EU countries (Read China and India) to allow sponsored skilled workers in at lower salary thresholds (26.5k).
Critically, for unskilled (i.e. the weddings business that started this):
There is a labour shortage.
There is a national living wage.
EU workers don't want to be here anymore.
British people are not lining up to do that work.
It is not possible to hire people outside of the EU for this unskilled work.
Ergo business suffer.
Here is a Brexit Benefit. We voted leave (Well I didn't) to get rid of EU Red Tape and Bureaucracy....
Only for it to be replaced with our own moronic..
Now to take rubbish down the tip, you have to pre book, show you have proof that you are a local resident and provide your booking reference number. I said to the chap (its not his fault) shall I bring my passport next time?
That is Brexit for you. The EU were a buffer for our moronic politicians
Had this in my old town, actually liked it because no queuing was involved.
Also agree that we needed the EU to protect us from our government which as becoming more authoritarian by the day
The only queues I've ever seen was during lock down
Ahhh ha ha ha ha.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64975488
And now the labour shortage of EU workers means that the rules for non-EU economic migrants who are builders and carpenters are going to be further relaxed:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64969468
I think if we are honest, Brexiteers that didn't like Eastern Europeans are going to have real difficulties processing this, particularly since non-EU migration can be read as India, Pakistan and China for the majority.
Brexit has simultaneously lead to a labour shortage in some industries while, it appears, simultaneously reaching record high levels of economic migration. Incredible. Can't make it up.
Last edited by piman2k; 20-03-2023 at 10:12.
Its like one of those comedy shows where everything that can go wrong does go wrong, its become political slapstick now.
Except its not even slightly funny.
I get the feeling that this would only work if we could pursuade Ernest Borgnine to drive the Isle of Wight to Portsmouth hovercraft.
I agree doc. I'm just waiting for DLowe and Leon to come along now and tell us that this is exactly what they expected and embraced.
On a side note, there might be at least some satisfaction in watching Johnson's political career come to an end this week. I can't imagine the PC are going to find he didn't knowingly mislead Parliament.
Will it bother him though? I doubt it. He makes millions giving speeches now. He's done what he needed to.
Half a billion quid wasted on food inspection centres.
Because the government decided to abandon all incoming inspections amid fears of food shortages after Brexit.
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit-food...r-used-2223985
Can't make it up lol
Last edited by piman2k; 22-03-2023 at 12:10.
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