Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Can you tow a sx with a 3 series?

  1. #1
    Head Mod Scottie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    St. Helens / Snowdonia
    Posts
    16,943
    Rides
    0

    Can you tow a sx with a 3 series?

    Would something like a 330d or 335d be ok for occasionally towing a s14a to track days etc?

    I have licence from early 1990's which i'm told makes a difference but have never had a trailer before so don't know the in and outs of it.
    2004 - on : 1999 S14a 398bhp 378lb/ft
    2010 - on : 2007 RX8 PZ
    1998 - 2004 : 1991 S13

  2. #2
    Guest
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    walsall/tamworth
    Posts
    6,541
    Rides
    0
    sounds like you have a 'grandad rights' licence so you can drive anything upto about 8 tonne. 1997 is the year they changed it so you had to take a test to be able to tow.


    https://towcar.info/GB/towing.php

    something like this should help.
    most brian james clubman type trailers would be about 400kg to 600kg. what does your Nissan weigh?

  3. #3
    Head Mod Scottie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    St. Helens / Snowdonia
    Posts
    16,943
    Rides
    0
    Great, thanks think a S14a is about 1260kg
    2004 - on : 1999 S14a 398bhp 378lb/ft
    2010 - on : 2007 RX8 PZ
    1998 - 2004 : 1991 S13

  4. #4
    Guest
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    lincoln
    Posts
    504
    Rides
    0
    I would highly doubt it. The combined weight of the car and trailer may exceed the max of that tow vehicle making it really sketchy. If stuff goes wrong you could be looking at a ton of points on your licence

  5. #5
    Now with 400bhp....
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    South west
    Posts
    36,008
    Rides
    1
    From memory the 3 series has a 1.8 ton limit. Most trailers that are big enough to carry an sx are 600kg+

    You’d be better off with a 5 series.
    South west Events and local meet info. See here


    My car on THRLL: http://thrll.com/car/1998-nissan-200sx-12410
    Chris Cooke Photograpy: https://www.facebook.com/ChrisCookePhotography
    1998 Nissan 200sx s14a , 2000 std 5 speed with nismo supercoppermix clutch bn6 Sapphire Blue

  6. #6
    Now with 400bhp....
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    South west
    Posts
    36,008
    Rides
    1
    Regarding the license.. you’re pre 97 so can drive up to 7.5 tons as long as the trailer etc is within the capacity of the vehicle.
    South west Events and local meet info. See here


    My car on THRLL: http://thrll.com/car/1998-nissan-200sx-12410
    Chris Cooke Photograpy: https://www.facebook.com/ChrisCookePhotography
    1998 Nissan 200sx s14a , 2000 std 5 speed with nismo supercoppermix clutch bn6 Sapphire Blue

  7. #7
    Guest
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    1,867
    Rides
    0
    I know people who have towed s14's with 330d's, but I agree with this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Chriscooke View Post
    You’d be better off with a 5 series.

  8. #8
    Head Mod Scottie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    St. Helens / Snowdonia
    Posts
    16,943
    Rides
    0
    OK great thanks, I prefer the look of the 5 series, you just can't get it with Xdrive.
    2004 - on : 1999 S14a 398bhp 378lb/ft
    2010 - on : 2007 RX8 PZ
    1998 - 2004 : 1991 S13

  9. #9
    Guest
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Glasgow-shire
    Posts
    1,974
    Rides
    0
    The law changed a few years ago so anyone with any car licence can tow up to the towing limit of the car doing the towing, as long as the train weight (car + trailer) doesn’t exceed 3.5 ton. For example my old 330d touring could tow up to 1900kg. So as long as the car weighed no more than 1600kg and the combined weight of the trailer plus the car on it weighed no more than 1900kg it was legal.

    On your licence with “grandfather rights” you’ll be absolutely fine since you’re legal up to 7.5 ton. A decent Brian James trailer big enough to carry an S14 will weigh about 800kg, so your total trailer weight will be just over 2000kg. So just check what the max towing weight of the car is obviously. A modern 335d will have a towing weight higher than that I would think.

  10. #10
    Now with 400bhp....
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    South west
    Posts
    36,008
    Rides
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by handsomedez View Post
    The law changed a few years ago so anyone with any car licence can tow up to the towing limit of the car doing the towing, as long as the train weight (car + trailer) doesn’t exceed 3.5 ton. For example my old 330d touring could tow up to 1900kg. So as long as the car weighed no more than 1600kg and the combined weight of the trailer plus the car on it weighed no more than 1900kg it was legal.

    On your licence with “grandfather rights” you’ll be absolutely fine since you’re legal up to 7.5 ton. A decent Brian James trailer big enough to carry an S14 will weigh about 800kg, so your total trailer weight will be just over 2000kg. So just check what the max towing weight of the car is obviously. A modern 335d will have a towing weight higher than that I would think.

    It’s the mam of the car and the trailers you need to look at. If the mam exceeds 3.5ton you can’t tow it.
    South west Events and local meet info. See here


    My car on THRLL: http://thrll.com/car/1998-nissan-200sx-12410
    Chris Cooke Photograpy: https://www.facebook.com/ChrisCookePhotography
    1998 Nissan 200sx s14a , 2000 std 5 speed with nismo supercoppermix clutch bn6 Sapphire Blue

  11. #11
    Guest
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Glasgow-shire
    Posts
    1,974
    Rides
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Chriscooke View Post
    It’s the mam of the car and the trailers you need to look at. If the mam exceeds 3.5ton you can’t tow it.
    Yeah that’s the one, the MAM or “train weight”. Although if you passed your test before ‘97 or ‘98 then you’re allowed a MAM up to 7.5 ton.
    Then you need to check the plate on the trailer to make sure it’s able to carry the weight of the car etc.

    We’ve just bought the longest tri-axle tilt-bed Brian James trailer at work to tow behind our land cruiser to deliver cars up to Ford Tourneo size.

  12. #12
    Head Mod Scottie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    St. Helens / Snowdonia
    Posts
    16,943
    Rides
    0
    So i passed my test early 90's so as long as the car tow weight is sufficient for the track car and trailer, and the trailer load weight is sufficient for the track car, then I am ok?
    2004 - on : 1999 S14a 398bhp 378lb/ft
    2010 - on : 2007 RX8 PZ
    1998 - 2004 : 1991 S13

  13. #13
    Guest
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Chelmsford,Essex
    Posts
    24,238
    Rides
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Scottie View Post
    So i passed my test early 90's so as long as the car tow weight is sufficient for the track car and trailer, and the trailer load weight is sufficient for the track car, then I am ok?
    Legally is different to safe. You can almost certainly create a legal combination with a 3-series that you would be licenced to drive but, IMO, a 3-series would not be an enjoyable car to tow a14a with even on a 4-wheel trailer. If you wanted to avoid a twitchy ring and do it more than once, deffo go for a bigger car than a 3-series.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •