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    Quote Originally Posted by sideways14a View Post
    I tried the old ST along with the gt86 and the ND.
    The old ST had a rubbish interior and didnt feel special enough, it had a lot of kit and went well but ultimately wasnt special enough.
    The gt86 also had a crap interior for a 28k car, it also felt slower than the other two cars - not helped by the torque hole.
    The 5 was obviously the worst for practicality but had the other two cuffed on driver enjoyment and interior. It was also as quick as the ST and was as well equipped - hence now owning one.

    Might try the civic type R, the new one is better than last years chavved up to 11 design.
    New Fiesta is much better inside

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    Quote Originally Posted by cleanhands View Post
    Absolutely Jonny, without a second thought.

    Think the 86's biggest problem was it put on 5K somewhere, and it's competition is just too well rounded.
    All cars have, its the weak pound

    Mustang was 29k in 2015, its now 36k...........
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    I blame Brexit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottie View Post
    Think the m135i is 320bhp, it's the 335i and 435i that is 306bhp. Must admit I have looked at the cost to swap the daily to a M135i only the Golf R and Cupra come close in terms of practicality, performance and tuneable.
    The first gen F20 cars are 306hp, the LCI (facelift) ones are 320hp. Regardless, a quick remap takes them to 360-370hp and then with a decat and remap its 400+

    Quote Originally Posted by sideways14a View Post
    Might try the civic type R, the new one is better than last years chavved up to 11 design.
    What!? The current and past gen CTR's have been awful to look at. The new one with its awful hatch design and 3 exhausts looks worse then the FK one. (2015-2017)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubix_Cube View Post

    What!? The current and past gen CTR's have been awful to look at. The new one with its awful hatch design and 3 exhausts looks worse then the FK one. (2015-2017)
    It is one of the most horrendous looking cars you can buy today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    All cars have, its the weak pound

    Mustang was 29k in 2015, its now 36k...........
    Meant even at launch. I thought it was supposed to compete with junior hot hatches like Clios and Fiestas where the compromises weren't so exaggerated as against something like a Focus ST or Golf GTI.

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    I think they probably would do in Japan, but the Yen : GBP conversion has been terrible since 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppelin101 View Post
    I think they probably would do in Japan, but the Yen : GBP conversion has been terrible since 2008.
    Doesn't also help that all the 90s Japanese performance stuff is climbing. JapaneseUsedCars contacted me after seeing my car on Ebay to say that a car in my condition is now 1M Yen... that is a 11,500 car landed, before MOT and Tax! The market is going crazy, I have been tempted to keep the chaser as all it's going to do is climb in value at this time, unless the Japanese market crashes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubix_Cube View Post
    The first gen F20 cars are 306hp, the LCI (facelift) ones are 320hp. Regardless, a quick remap takes them to 360-370hp and then with a decat and remap its 400+
    Really, I always thought all the M135i's even from 2012 onwards were 320bhp, never knew that they were 306. EVO quotes them as 320bhp. Yes had heard a FMIC, downpipe and remap could make 400bhp plus and 440 torques
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubix_Cube View Post
    Doesn't also help that all the 90s Japanese performance stuff is climbing.
    The market is going crazy, I have been tempted to keep the chaser as all it's going to do is climb in value at this time, unless the Japanese market crashes.

    Partially helped by alot of the 2000's stuff being kinda bland and boring, a few exceptions obviously but alot of companies stopped making properly interesting stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3K1355 View Post
    Partially helped by alot of the 2000's stuff being kinda bland and boring, a few exceptions obviously but alot of companies stopped making properly interesting stuff.
    So true we have been through a very boring period full of TDi's.
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    I love a quick TDi as a daily hack, great mileage and they storm down the motorway at a fine pace.

    but I just don't think people are going to yearn after an Ibiza FR or Golf GTD in 10 years time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R3K1355 View Post
    but I just don't think people are going to yearn after an Ibiza FR or Golf GTD in 10 years time.
    At the current rate, they'll be taxed off the road by then.

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    Does anyone yearn after one now?
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    Yeah the old Civic was god awful and hit by the chavvy stick constantly throughout birth, the new one is (to me) slightly less but still pretty bad - it redeems itself with its performance though... a little.

    We will have to see how the new ST will go, its a 3cly aint it? Big opertunity for Ford to make it a lightweight monster but i suspect they will ruin it with 150 kilos of worthless shite that some marketing penis thinks is worth it (like 18"+ wheels or something)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sideways14a View Post
    We will have to see how the new ST will go, its a 3cly aint it? Big opertunity for Ford to make it a lightweight monster but i suspect they will ruin it with 150 kilos of worthless shite that some marketing penis thinks is worth it (like 18"+ wheels or something)
    Yea the new ST will be a 1.5 3-cylinder turbo, seems to have all the standard Fiesta kit so it's probably no lightweight special.

    Optional LSD tho which is pretty cool.

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    Kerbweight of the Fiesta is a tad under 1200kg and its 200bhp so expect standard S14 performance.

    LSD and Launch control an option and will be around 20k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Wrong

    Both are 2.3s and its basically the same engine but the RS has a a different cooling circuit. RS is 350bhp, Mustang is 310. A stage 1 remap takes it up to RS power with V8 torque.
    ok I got the cubic capacity wrong and was leaning towards you have the better engine,
    this shows with a sectioned cut RS block what I reffered to regards the block design and lack of bore support https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuGodKdRLpE

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    Quote Originally Posted by green_rs13 View Post
    your problem is that it would fail the emissions and safety tests, so would need loads of modern mumbo-jumbo bolting onto it making it astmatic and lardy.
    then you have the fact that s13's are actually lethal/comedy handling wise compared to modern stuff that people are used too, that's why they get crashed weeks after being bought by kids who are 'used to fast carz mate' had a gttdi golf innit.

    but yeah, id have a kouki type X that did modern day MPG figures for 23k.. well as long as it didn't have a comedy spec Ariel.

    im actually half car shopping at the moment and there is nothing that I actually like.
    Given that the car only exists as a figment of my imagination all those problems are easily solved

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    Quote Originally Posted by green_rs13 View Post
    im actually half car shopping at the moment and there is nothing that I actually like.
    Try looking at full cars?
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