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    That's a pop at both of my car choices Seany - bad form

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    I would class them more as underhanded compliments.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanyboy1991 View Post
    I would class them more as underhanded compliments.....

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    Naaa i would stick with Dissin the 911...

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    ....And calling Arry middle aged

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    How about the Z4 that's for sale on the forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny Wilkinson View Post
    ....And calling Arry middle aged

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    Thats a compliment surely...

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    Fuuhhhhhhhhhck aaauuuufffff

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanyboy1991 View Post
    I have heard rb's suffer from oil starvation when you drift them hard but I am a shit drifter so hopefully it could handle me drifting a quarter of the way round a roundabout ������ I have a feeling it would feel a bit like a big boat of a car though rather than a fun sports car.

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    the RB25 oil starve issue is true,the sump is a terrible design with nothing to prevent oil surge forwards and backwards
    I have a 70kms series 2 rb25 that even with a litre of oil over max level spun a bearing on 1st drift day
    the sump can be modded improved with big wings/baffles and trap doors etc
    crankshaft nose/oil pump drive wears and the thin oil pump drive can round over,especially the series 1/short nose crank
    can be modded to prevent,and lots more can be done to them if you have deep pockets

    simple way to describe the r33 gts25 is its like a bigger 14 that feels heavier in the turns,in near stock form no quicker than a near stock 14
    near stock = catback and air filter,but more thirsty,the straight six sounds nice but loves its fuel
    you would need drive one for a bit as it may not be what you hope ,
    and to address the supra post in auto form they are lacking imo,heavy old bus as well worse on fuel than the RB Skyrine sub 20 mpg's
    fast in a straight line,with out suspension mods not great handling they show the 1500+kgs
    same as the r33 would need drive one a fair distance + insurance could be fair bit dearer
    a manual is better to drive imo,tiny bit/slightly better mpg, but the crazy hike in price I don't see justified
    an s body is a better practical/fun daily/lower running costs option imo
    slight swerve of the topic of s15 v's gt86 (v's arry's fast beetle it now seems )

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    Quote Originally Posted by arry View Post
    Turning circles - try a V70 and then complain.
    But both 2000 and 2007 V70 estate "barges" have SMALLER 11m turning circle than "ocean liner" 11.4m GT86. GT86 may not even be able to take some left hand junctions in towns without a 3 pt turn or needing to use oncoming lane like a HGV.

    http://www.parkers.co.uk/volvo/v70/e...bhp)-5d/specs/
    http://www.parkers.co.uk/volvo/v70/e...top)-5d/specs/

    The first V70 were 10m.
    http://www.parkers.co.uk/volvo/v70/e...-20v-5d/specs/

    But yes there are lots of posts on Internet about how big the V70 turning circle is. And like needing to do 5 pt turns to get into car parking spaces. So make that 7 pt turns for the GT86.

    Rear wheel steering, it's game over when you hit the lock stops.
    Handling, it's what happens AFTER it's let go. 200SX is proven one of the best as you can skid with mm precision.

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    If that's true then I'm genuinely surprised - I thought the V70 was more like 111 metres than 11. It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever experienced.

    Just checked to see whether the 911 has a particularly good turning circle which just makes the volvo look bad, and checked here:
    http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=87934

    Apparently it's 10.6 - well I can tell you this, there's a country mile of a difference between the 911 and the V70. If that's what a difference .4m makes then here's a picture of a GT86 turning round in the street:



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    I have no problem turning the 5 around in a small area - just turn the TC off and give it a lot of right foot with full lock.

    Obese cars with drive shafts on the front wheels should be banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sideways14a View Post
    Obese cars with drive shafts on the front wheels should be banned.
    I think their sole purpose should be to remind us all what a good car feels like.

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    A Nissan gtr is pretty obese and has drive shafts on the front and I would still drive it. I wouldn't buy one, but of someone forced me to drive one I wouldn't be traumatized or anything.

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    For every 1 GTR there is many more heavy Audi diesels with all the driving thrills removed.

    This is a tragedy, the world needs to unite against boring pish.

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    Sorry but to me turning circles is boring pish. The driving experience for me is more than how easy it is to park.
    RWD is all about being pushed not pulled IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyshack View Post
    200SX is proven one of the best as you can skid with mm precision.
    A stock GT86 is at least 10 times easier to maintain a slide in than a stock S13.

    The three worst cars Ive ever had for turning circle were an Integrale, a GTI-6 and an Evo8, who would want those old shitters compared to a Volvo?

    Yeah, turning circle REALLY matters.
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    I'm quite surprised that a gt86 is easier to slide to be honest. Quite interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanyboy1991 View Post
    I'm quite surprised that a gt86 is easier to slide to be honest. Quite interesting.
    Control is the word - standard S13 had pipecleaner ARB's and cheesestring suspension. 350Z, RX8, S2K are all (IMO) easier to hold a drift with as a standard car, but then they are all 20 odd years newer as well.
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    A half decent working modern LSD helps as well.

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    So easier than an s15? I have to say as well, good chance I will disregard all this good advice and buy an s15 anyway 😂😂

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