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    25mm wings with 10J rims

    I'll be buying 25mm wider front wings for my S14a tomorrow, what offsets are people using that adequately fill the arches without bolt on spacers? I always seem to get a vibration with spacers so if I can avoid using them I'd like to.

    It'll be JR12's 10J I'll be using. The car has Apex Gen 2 5/4 ready to go on and won't be stupid low if that makes any difference.

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    Depends what size tyre you want to run.

    I run 10j et12 on the front with a 235/40/18 tyre with standard arches, a square tyre would fit 25mm arches pretty well I'd of thought. You may well start seeing inner clearance issues though.
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    A 245 or 255/40/18 tyre most likely, would a 0 offset be better for inner clearance? Or you reckon I'll start to have clearance issues on the wing with that?

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    Probably wouldn't be any better tbh. 10j are quite big for the front of an sx tbh.
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    I have a 10j you can try on the car if you want to get an idea, I'm in paisley

    edit: 18 x 10 +3 btw
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    25mm wings with 10J rims

    With genuine chargespeed +25mm wings 9.5J et0 with a 225/40 at -2.5deg camber . Fits perfect and is about as far out as you can go without rubbing. I've pushed out to ET-2 and its started to catch a little

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_mac View Post
    I have a 10j you can try on the car if you want to get an idea, I'm in paisley

    edit: 18 x 10 +3 btw
    Ha I was just about to ask the offset. Drop me a PM with your number mate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean-B View Post
    With genuine chargespeed +25mm wings 9.5J et0 with a 225/40 at -2.5deg camber . Fits perfect and is about as far out as you can go without rubbing. I've pushed out to ET-2 and its started to catch a little
    How are you for clearance at the inside Sean? Love you car btw, it's always on my instagram feed ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcleansc View Post
    Ha I was just about to ask the offset. Drop me a PM with your number mate.



    How are you for clearance at the inside Sean? Love you car btw, it's always on my instagram feed ha
    It's ok but it's been hammered out the way quite a lot and the loom moved up out the way. It never catches the inside now. On a 9.5J rim you have to be at least ET15 to clear coilovers. Thanks mate appreciate it.

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    What's the reasoning for going 10J on the front? You'll have a much easier time fitting 9s or 9.5s, and they'll look just as good.

    With the width of the wheel you'll have to go fairly low offset to avoid suspension and brake clearance issues. They're quite heavy on lip, so this makes brake clearance tricky. It all depends on whether the wheels use the hub face or the spoke-design/lip to determine offset. Excuse my very crude MSPaint sketch. The below 3 wheels are all the same width/offset. From what I can see in photos the JR12s look most like the middle:



    Essentially, without test-fitting, it's impossible to compare different wheel designs when talking about internal clearance, and with such a large wheel you're minimising your chances of it fitting.

    Saying that, Chriscooke made his 10Js fit the front. How brave are you feeling?
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    Thanks for the input Quail, didn't think brake clearance would be an issue, but now you mention it I have 355mm 2 piece discs and very sizeable calipers to go on. The reasoning for a 10J was because I'm struggling to find 9.5J JR12's and I also had 9.5J Rotas on my old SX with standard wings, not even hammered, so thought with fitting the 25mm wider wings I bought today I'd need a wider wheel to fill them. The offset of the Rotas was +30 though so they sat very close to the shock.

    I may have to rethink if the brake clearance is poor.

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    Going for Rota GTR-D now with 12's et12 at the rear on a 285 tire.. Is that too aggressive for +50mm arches?

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    25mm wings with 10J rims

    It should be ok at that offset as they'll sit 20mm further in than the two set ups I know well

    Without adjustable lower control arms L16JAY has a 265/35/18 in 12J wheel et-8 and has to run -4 to clear 50mm overfenders.

    I've got exact same tyre and wheel specs as him and have managed to get to -2 degrees with adjustable lower arms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean-B View Post
    It should be ok at that offset as they'll sit 20mm further in than the two set ups I know well

    Without adjustable lower control arms L16JAY has a 265/35/18 in 12J wheel et-8 and has to run -4 to clear 50mm overfenders.

    I've got exact same tyre and wheel specs as him and have managed to get to -2 degrees with adjustable lower arms
    Gonna start calling you the wheel and tyre guru. Your Veilsides and his Meisters are stunning, I couldn't handle wheels like that man, especially with my girlfriend driving the car. How is L16JAY for inner clearance? I've actually already had a search and asked him for his wheel specs on his build thread. Just so I know before I commit to buying, also got the guys at Driftworks helping me out as well, with fibreglass there's no room for widening them so want to get it all the facts before I buy

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcleansc View Post
    Gonna start calling you the wheel and tyre guru. Your Veilsides and his Meisters are stunning, I couldn't handle wheels like that man, especially with my girlfriend driving the car. How is L16JAY for inner clearance? I've actually already had a search and asked him for his wheel specs on his build thread. Just so I know before I commit to buying, also got the guys at Driftworks helping me out as well, with fibreglass there's no room for widening them so want to get it all the facts before I buy
    Ha thanks mate, it's all just numbers but remember every fibreglass panel isn't identical. I recommend SRB power for rear overfenders.

    Rear inner clearance of the arch is never an issue but the RLCA can be hit by a very wide high offset wheel but I think that 12J et12 will clear it. Front inner clearance suffers due to scrub radius of such low offset wheels but can be massaged with a big hammer. His fronts are 10J Et4 I think with a 225/40 they are tight in there but workable.

    It's easy to fit this stupid sized wheels but it's keeping the car drivable that's the hard part.

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    Are you sure the 12j gtr-d is et12? Last I heard they only did et0 and et20. The et20 just about fit without hitting the lca but some opt to run small spacers
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    I have GTR-D 18X12 ET20 with 50mm overfenders and had to use 5mm spacers to clear the lower arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chriscooke View Post
    Are you sure the 12j gtr-d is et12? Last I heard they only did et0 and et20. The et20 just about fit without hitting the lca but some opt to run small spacers
    Currently the GTR-D is only available as et0 or Et20, may have been different in the past though.

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    Yeah that was my bad, don't know why I thought they did them in the +12 offset.

    Bahis that's perfect mate just what I needed, what tyre are you running?

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    I have Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 275/35/18.

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    Cheers guys, placed an order today for 9.5J and 12J GTR-Ds.

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