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    Quote Originally Posted by Cluck View Post
    After all, Labour had put an end to boom and bust hadn't they
    Yes they did,


    they got rid of Boom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
    yes, I do class 1p as nothing when considering the fact that over the last 4 or so years it's gone from 90p a litre to 139p a litre. So dropping it to 138p doesn't exactly make a difference.
    According to a quick google:
    On 1st october 2007 fuel duty was 53.65 pence per litre
    1 Sept 2009 it was 56.19 pence per litre.
    1st October 2010 it was 58.19.
    It's just gone down by 1p.

    Price rises aren't entirely due to fuel duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
    Are you honestly telling me that you are happy that you will pay 1p less for fuel?
    Of course I am. Why would I want to pay more?

    As already mentioned if you don't want to pay less you can always over pay.

    They also stopped the 4/5p rise. I'm guessing you see that as pointless too?

    They're not magicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Si View Post
    According to a quick google:
    On 1st october 2007 fuel duty was 53.65 pence per litre
    1 Sept 2009 it was 56.19 pence per litre.
    1st October 2010 it was 58.19.
    It's just gone down by 1p.

    Price rises aren't entirely due to fuel duty.
    Which goes back to the question I asked earlier...

    Quote Originally Posted by zeppelin101 View Post
    I wasn't really paying attention when it was on earlier in the week, but someone was on BBC Breakfast talking about penalising companies who almost immediately increased the prices of fuels when the crude cost goes up but not reducing them as fast? Does anyone know if this is likely to apply to petrol/diesel companies or is that for household and industrial stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Si View Post
    According to a quick google:
    On 1st october 2007 fuel duty was 53.65 pence per litre
    1 Sept 2009 it was 56.19 pence per litre.
    1st October 2010 it was 58.19.
    It's just gone down by 1p.

    Price rises aren't entirely due to fuel duty.
    Exactly Try blaming the greedy fooking fuel companies

    Some one was saying that oil was nearly reaching levels when it went up last time. Hang on? I dont recall it being 1.40 a litre last time So it looks like Mr BP, Mr Shell and Mr Mobil are making a nice little profit
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    I thought it was the traders putting the price up, not the companies?

    Always good to blame bankers/traders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Si View Post
    According to a quick google:
    On 1st october 2007 fuel duty was 53.65 pence per litre
    1 Sept 2009 it was 56.19 pence per litre.
    1st October 2010 it was 58.19.
    It's just gone down by 1p.

    Price rises aren't entirely due to fuel duty.
    Plus VAT on top...

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    Ok then, you all want the moon on a stick eh
    Right, one question for you all.

    Who the feck is going to pay for it?

    Answers on a postcard please to No11 Downing St.



    But what does the PM spend when in office? 70k is the wage, what about the free house, no bills for elec, gas, no travel costs, prob no council tax, no food bills.
    The PM is paid circa 140k-150k odd irrc, or there abouts, considering his hours of work (all of them lol), stress attached to the job (look at gorden) and of course the ultimate person responsible for 60+ million people its not what i would call overpaid lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silane View Post
    I thought it was the traders putting the price up, not the companies?

    Always good to blame bankers/traders.
    Traders? You mean the people at the actual petrol station?

    If thats what you mean, you couldnt be more from the truth. They get contacted by Shell/BP/etc and get told what to set the price too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubix_Cube View Post
    Traders? You mean the people at the actual petrol station? .
    noooo ... OIL traders like Brent, Nymex and WTI

    the people that effectivly can decide that war might break out ...... so lets sell 20 points higher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideways14a View Post
    Ok then, you all want the moon on a stick eh
    Right, one question for you all.

    Who the feck is going to pay for it?

    Answers on a postcard please to No11 Downing St.
    Joe public, that's who.

    Things we don't need to waste money......hmm lets thinks of 1 example..........

    2012 is the hint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
    2012 is the hint.
    I hope you were not expecting this government to cancel the games when they came to power last year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
    2012 is the hint.
    so you want to cancel the olympics

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    No, not cancel it, too bloody late now. I don't think we should of ever of been put forward for it.

    Saying that, the current government has scrapped other area's that were fully paid for to save money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
    Joe public, that's who.

    Things we don't need to waste money......hmm lets thinks of 1 example..........

    2012 is the hint.

    I would LOVE the olympics to be scrapped, except theres probably so many planners/managers/strategy consultants etc etc that it would end up costing more to get them to cancel it

    I vote for an end to ALL benefits/tax credits, for everyone. Replace it with food stamps so nobody starves to death and call it a day.

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    There is no way they could even contemplate scrapping it, my god the country would be a laughing stock and the costs to bin it would likely outweigh the cost to host it

    Yes we shouldnt be doing it anyway but the decision was made a long long time ago, balls set in motion and a lot of water under the bridge has passed since then.

    As for cutting all benefits - good luck getting the electorate to vote for that
    Nice idea and all that but....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideways14a View Post
    There is no way they could even contemplate scrapping it, my god the country would be a laughing stock and the costs to bin it would likely outweigh the cost to host it

    Yes we shouldnt be doing it anyway but the decision was made a long long time ago, balls set in motion and a lot of water under the bridge has passed since then.

    As for cutting all benefits - good luck getting the electorate to vote for that
    Nice idea and all that but....
    Hence why I said it would of saved money if we hadn't of done it.

    Once the ball is rolling it's pointless to stop it. Although that's something that the public sector and governments are good at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt_T View Post
    I vote for an end to ALL benefits/tax credits, for everyone. Replace it with food stamps so nobody starves to death and call it a day.

    yer yer (waves papers in the air)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
    Plus VAT on top...
    Which has been static at 17.5% for most of that, then gone up by 2.5%
    If people bothered to actually research into it, rather than just getting all of their infor from newspaper headlines, they'd see the price rises aren't proportionate to duty/tax. That's the point I'm trying to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubix_Cube View Post
    Traders? You mean the people at the actual petrol station?
    As Johnny said, I was referring to commodity traders (amongst others).


    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
    Joe public, that's who.
    We are paying for it though.

    You've yet to outline an alternative and better solution to effectively slashing 5/6p off fuel duty.

    Re:2012, if anything it's provided jobs, construction contracts and investment in places that otherwise might not have got the funds, sure it's cost a lot but it isn't all negative IMO.

    I really can't see how people can complain about a cut in fuel duty. Just shows how much of a battle the government is facing!
    Last edited by Silane; 23-03-2011 at 15:51.

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