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    Can anyone offer a legal perspective on this?

    A friend of mine received £2000 from a guy to provide a service to him which in the end he wasnt happy with. He is now demanding the money back (which she hasnt got any more).

    Now he paid the money into her personal bank account and there was no written contract or text messages confirming the service to be provided, etc or anything to state the level of service he would receive.

    He is now saying that he is going to send a debt collection company round to collect the money. He has done his reseach into her and knows where she lives, the car she drives, etc. He has said to her that she should sell her car and give him his money back. Now I would have thought that he cant send a debt collection company round because there is no formal agreement between them, no proof of what the money was paid for and even that she is liable for it. She was just acting as an agent for a 3rd party and it was the 3rd party he wasnt happy with.

    If he did send someone round then I would think that it would probably be one of his mates so I would assume she is well within her right to call the police to prove their identity and if they are a legit company they will be able to do that.

    I personally think he knows he cant get the money back and is just trying to bully her into giving him the money. I've told her to keep any and all messages from him incase he wanted to take it further.

    Also could he take it through a small claims court without any proof of what the money was paid for or any kind of proof of liability?

    Cheers for any help
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    If he can't prove the debt, he's got no hope IMO.

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    why doesnt she just point him to the person that provided the service???

    if she has just been a go between then the person that provided the service is responsible surely? but in the case that she has made money from putting the person onto the other party then i'd think its more complicated.

    did you think the service provided was fair - if you think it could of been better or wasnt up to scratch and are now ensuring there is no way to prove the money was given over in the first place then that sounds shady indeed.....i'm not saying it is though....

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    There is obviously proof that the money was paid to her in her bank statements and she isnt trying to deny she received it.

    She did take an agents fee out of it but most of the money was paid to the 3rd party or for other things related to the service. The level of service is just in someones opinion and cant be measured really which is difficult. One person may say it was an excellent service and another may not, its personal choice.
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    What was the service that was paid for?

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    I was trying to keep it out of the thread but I suppose it will make more sense if I said what it was. It was for an escort service.

    Basically he didnt click with the lady he booked and didnt end up spending all the time with her he wanted to. At the end of the day the service was provided, if he chose not to continue with it, which he didnt, then that is his choice in my opinion

    Edit: Just to add to tha my friend wasnt operating an escort agency, she was just acting as an agent for 1 lady
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    escort services sell the time spent with an escort. Anything that happens in that time is between the escort and the client. .... This way the law allows escort agencies to be legal and prostitution illegal.

    If the Escort didnt keep to her service, of spending time with the client, then he is in his rights to get his money back.

    One would assume that if he didnt attend the time paid for then he has no right to his money back ... ie if you booked a holiday and then jsut didnt turn up, you wouldnt get your money back.

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    he hasn't got a leg to stand on LOL! He needs to give it up and learn from his experience, tidy himself up and get himself a girlfriend.

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    escorting is skirting law anyway (as you say, depending on the level of service), if he paid 2k then i can only imagine what was meant to happen - sounds like the vip+ service at that money (and that must of been a seriously hot bird ) so he's in a sticky situation for trying to get the money back... at the same time your friend has to be careful too as it sounds like this is all in that grey area between legal and illegal, and could be one or the other - i wouldn't think you could rely on law to back any of you up imo....

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    Cheers for the feedback guys. It is a very grey area but to stay within the law agencies sell the time not the service and anything that happens between them is whatever happens between 2 consenting adults.

    I personally dont think he has a leg to stand on and he's just bitter because he didnt 'click' with the lady he booked. It was for a week long service where he could see her whenever he wanted and they did see each other so the service was provided, it was him who decided not to continue it any further. I have also heard though from other sources in the industry that this is a very difficult guy so it doesnt surprise me.

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    he's got **** all chance basically

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    how much for about 3mins? lol

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    2K for an escort

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan@DB-Power View Post
    2K for an escort
    With 3 month's tax and MOT still


    Sounds like the guy hasn't a leg to stand on. He paid for time with the escort and got that time. Tough luck if they didn't click.

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    if he paid 2K for an escort for a week, which he has never used before, then hes nuts! Any normal person would have booked a shorter, cheaper service to see if he 'clicked' As is, like the rest of the the comments, he booked a block of this ladies time, to do with as he pleased, as long as she was available for him when he wanted, then the service was delivered...

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    He could still cause her a lot of hassle there is a women on my facebook who provides services and one of her clients grassed her up to the tax office I don't know the full story but she had a £32,000 tax bill with all the fines and that fees

    She does those cam shows it bankrupted her almost had prison time ******

    Can't she come to some deal with this guy maybe give with some of the cash back? As things like this can turn really nasty






    *****That is also the reason you should check your adds on facebook more before just clicking accept
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    How does one get into escorting work? For that sort of money, I'll happily give it a go. Although I doubt many rich, gorgeous, bored wives will spend money on an oil-rag like me, unless they pay extra for a "bit of rough"!

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    Unless he had a receipt or invoice from putting the money in your friends account he is SOL.. What can he prove ? Other than he put £2k in her account, he says its for an escort, she says it was a gift.. His word against hers.. As for getting a debt collection agency in Is he going to quote trading standards or something

    Tell him to get a blowup doll

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    why would anyone pay 2k for a girl of the night?


    Much cheaper to go to a club or something

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    emm, it is said here that it was for the week!!!

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