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    Quote Originally Posted by Vez View Post
    I am probably more patriotic to my country than any other member on here, other than those proud to serve in the forces (or have done).

    I'm allowed to dislike people for character trates, everyone is on a level playing field regardless of whether they are English, Jamacan, German, Spanish, or whatever. This has NOTHING to do with patriotism what so ever.

    Hes a good drive, he has the F1 World Championship, I appreciate the work Mclaren put in to him, the last two season and there time at the top in the Senna years, and its good to have a competitive championship again.

    It doesnt stop me from thinking Hamilton is incredibly arrogant beyond his abilities though

    Its your opinion and you feel very strong and who are we to judge what you have seen in all those 5 minute interviews he has done

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    Quote Originally Posted by def View Post
    Yea like wut you typed is well rasist innit cus they not black they afro crab bean people.

    i am glad a black man has won and hope Obama gets in now so we can see the first black president.

    I have had enough of racism this last few weeks as some mug thought I was black online and thought it best to put some rasist country and western music about killing Niggers Then I was at a BBQ and some guy was telling me rasist jokes (not even funny ones) I told him im not into that and he laughed it off like I was playing a joke on him. He just started telling more until I warned him that I really didnt like that and he was pissing me off. He apologised and told me had an un rasist joke on his phone. but forgot that the punch line was rasist.

    Why are people so short sighted that we are just all human biengs

    Oh wait this aint the rant room Doh!!!!!

    Sorry if I caused offence, it wasn't meant to.

    I was really just making a point how news changes. Last week it was Lewis getting racial abuse from the Spanish, then that was all forgotten with the Ross / Brand affair, then the conspiracy regarding Glock etc etc etc.

    It's a breath of fresh air really

    And for me, Obama is the man, he's the only one who sounds "Presidential"

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    Obama is definately the best man for the job, Mcain is ready for the retirement home not the whitehouse, only time he should see that is from a wheelchair sat looking at it with a tartan plyde over his legs and trying to remember exactly what the big building is, while a carer pushes him back to the nursing home.


    When does the new F1 season start again?
    Anyone fancy putting a few quid up for a little wager on the winner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by docwra View Post
    He is 23 years old, a multimillionaire, is shagging a Pussycat Doll, has won every championship he has competed in since he was about 6, has just won the F1 World Championship (that he damn nearly won in his rookie year) despite some dubious FIA decisions (and the Fezzas being the faster cars) ........... Im sorry, but short of shouting "Im the fecking greatest" 24/7 how is anything he does arrogant??
    Absolutely spot on
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshT_200 View Post
    Sorry if I caused offence, it wasn't meant to.

    I was really just making a point how news changes. Last week it was Lewis getting racial abuse from the Spanish, then that was all forgotten with the Ross / Brand affair, then the conspiracy regarding Glock etc etc etc.

    It's a breath of fresh air really

    And for me, Obama is the man, he's the only one who sounds "Presidential"

    LOL no offence I was saying that black people that I know like to be called black and not afro caribean. and was highlighting the pc ness of it.

    What you said was spot on

    The rant was at the memory of theracists the other night

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete C View Post
    Not a bit of it, he was comfortably in 4th with Vettel as his cushion before the rain started falling, Glock wasn't even close - so if anything the luck fairy tried to help Massa out 10 mins from the end but Hamilton pulled it out of the fire at the very last moment
    Comfortably 4th 10 minutes from the end? no. 4th he was, but there is no denying that vettel was reeling in, and quick. hambone ran wide and vettel took advantage, hamilton was 5th...still WDC winner at that point, no denying that either. rain falls, all go in for inters except the toyota's. hambone is 6th. 1 corner from the end, on the dry part, glock doesnt go so fast all of a sudden and hambone flies passed him. he didnt pull it out of the fire as you say.

    As for the FIA 'conspiracy' against hamilton, he brought it on himself imo.

    People (or hamilton fans) seem to forget canada this year. Red light in the pitlane and hamilton rams kimi from behind, who at this time was his main title rival and which ever way you look at it, is in the lead of the race. hamilton gets a ten place grid penalty in france.

    In 1997, and the last race of the season. Michael Schumacher is 1 point ahead of Jaques Villeneuve. Jaques is ahead, and Schumi makes a rough move which is ruled as deliberately trying to keep his rival from scoring any points. As a result, the Governing body strips Schumacher of all his WDC points for the year. A harsh Penalty; which some believed was not harsh enough.

    Lewis got of lightly imo.

    France:

    during qualifying heiki blocks another driver and gets a 5 place grid penalty. during the race in the opening stages, hamilton gets his infamous red mist, and starts making his own race track by ploughing straight ahead passed vettel, and crucially doesnt give the place back. Hamilton gets a drive through.

    Spa: couple of laps from the end, hamilton repeats exactly what he did in france, but 'gives' the place back. However, by cutting the chicane he only momentarily lets of the throttle so he can attack kimi the next corner straight away. the straight to turn one is way to short to gain such speed.
    Also, before the race it was clearly said in the drivers briefing that cutting that chicane and gaining an advantage from it would result in a drive through penalty.
    A drive through is about 25 seconds, and spa's pitlane is very slow (60km/h).

    Fuji:
    more red mist from lewis, runs half the front runners of the track to try and gain the lead. it goes tits up, a couple of cars lose some places. a few laps later, lewis makes a move on massa who goes wide, has no where to go but on the grass. when he comes back on the track hamilton is there who gets a light touch and spins. both drives recieve a penalty.

    Earlier in the year, malaysia GP i believe, ferrari's tire warmers arent off 3 minutes before the warm up lap. Ferrari was a couple of seconds to late and this resulted in a drive through for kimi. Ferrari biased indeed.


    I hope this will actually shut some people up about the hamilton FIA conspiracy. He won the championship, you guys got your way now get over with it. If you dont like the decisions hamilton and the FIA make, dont watch F1 anymore. you'll hurt bernie and pornomax this way, plus you wont have to see this endless sleepfest some others moan about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkvj View Post

    In 1997, and the last race of the season. Michael Schumacher is 1 point ahead of Jaques Villeneuve. Jaques is ahead, and Schumi makes a rough move which is ruled as deliberately trying to keep his rival from scoring any points. As a result, the Governing body strips Schumacher of all his WDC points for the year. A harsh Penalty; which some believed was not harsh enough.

    Lewis got of lightly imo.
    Oh please fella, spare us. I didn't even read the rest, because this bit just sticks out as very ill informed and equally biased towards Fezza than some are towards Hamilton.

    Schumi's incident was so different from the pitlane incident of Hamilton's it was untrue:
    a) It wasn't the last race of the season by any means, and there was still plenty to play for
    b) It wasn't fcuking deliberate like Schumachers was

    If you want to argue the toss, at least bring up some relevant examples - Hamilton made a mistake that took an opponent out from a race which either of them could have won - Schumacher took an opponent out deliberately to prevent him from winning, and thus SEALING the world championship.

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    Bahhhhahahaha... your head is so far up ferrari's arse you can taste what they had for lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by def View Post
    Its your opinion and you feel very strong and who are we to judge what you have seen in all those 5 minute interviews he has done
    Exactly, my personal opinion without having a dig at someone

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkvj View Post
    Comfortably 4th 10 minutes from the end? no. 4th he
    Spa: couple of laps from the end, hamilton repeats exactly what he did in france, but 'gives' the place back. However, by cutting the chicane he only momentarily lets of the throttle so he can attack kimi the next corner straight away. the straight to turn one is way to short to gain such speed.
    Also, before the race it was clearly said in the drivers briefing that cutting that chicane and gaining an advantage from it would result in a drive through penalty.
    A drive through is about 25 seconds, and spa's pitlane is very slow (60km/h).

    Fuji:
    more red mist from lewis, runs half the front runners of the track to try and gain the lead. it goes tits up, a couple of cars lose some places. a few laps later, lewis makes a move on massa who goes wide, has no where to go but on the grass. when he comes back on the track hamilton is there who gets a light touch and spins. both drives recieve a penalty.

    Earlier in the year, malaysia GP i believe, ferrari's tire warmers arent off 3 minutes before the warm up lap. Ferrari was a couple of seconds to late and this resulted in a drive through for kimi. Ferrari biased indeed.


    I hope this will actually shut some people up about the hamilton FIA conspiracy. He won the championship, you guys got your way now get over with it. If you dont like the decisions hamilton and the FIA make, dont watch F1 anymore. you'll hurt bernie and pornomax this way, plus you wont have to see this endless sleepfest some others moan about.

    Ohhh give it a rest will you

    Alonso did well to.

    Its great to see Hamilton beat him (Alonso), Ferrari & the FIA.

    Whoop whoop for British Engineering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arry View Post
    Oh please fella, spare us. I didn't even read the rest, because this bit just sticks out as very ill informed and equally biased towards Fezza than some are towards Hamilton.

    Schumi's incident was so different from the pitlane incident of Hamilton's it was untrue:
    a) It wasn't the last race of the season by any means, and there was still plenty to play for
    b) It wasn't fcuking deliberate like Schumachers was

    If you want to argue the toss, at least bring up some relevant examples - Hamilton made a mistake that took an opponent out from a race which either of them could have won - Schumacher took an opponent out deliberately to prevent him from winning, and thus SEALING the world championship.

    Strewth
    Spot on.

    It wasn't like Schumacher hadn't done it before either in the final race... 1994 - Australia, it was a blatant ramming that sealed the Championship for Schumacher.

    The FIA had to act

    So there is no comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkvj View Post
    Comfortably 4th 10 minutes from the end? no. 4th he was, but there is no denying that vettel was reeling in, and quick. hambone ran wide and vettel took advantage, hamilton was 5th...still WDC winner at that point, no denying that either. rain falls, all go in for inters except the toyota's. hambone is 6th. 1 corner from the end, on the dry part, glock doesnt go so fast all of a sudden and hambone flies passed him. he didnt pull it out of the fire as you say.
    Errm not quite. They had already gone in for wets when Kubica decided to unlap him self and Vettel took the advantage of Hamilton being out of possition to pass him as well.

    And did you see the tank slapper Glock got on as he tried to put the power down out of the corner at the bottom of the hill?

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=92c_1225659283

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddog View Post
    How do you come about that conclusion then?
    Because it was once seen as cool to diss Hamilton.
    Where's most people have jumped off that band wagon as they're fickle, Vez either hasn't got the message, or prefers being a hater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andynissan View Post
    Because it was once seen as cool to diss Hamilton.
    Where's most people have jumped off that band wagon as they're fickle, Vez either hasn't got the message, or prefers being a hater.
    He really overstepped the mark, spouting mad long-winded rantings is my job.

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    i dont think i've seen quite so much childish bitching, ego-bashing, and overstretched opinions in one thread on here, ever

    Hamilton won, all British guys and gals should be happy for him, it's not often out nation does something really good. End of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkvj View Post
    SOUR GRAPES BLA BLA BLA
    So lets say if he didn't pass Glock. They'd have been tied on points but Massa would have won because he had more wins.. More wins meaning he'd crossed the line first before anyone else on more occassions.
    WRONG - Spa he was gifted a win. And whether Hamilton was right or wrong with the Kimi saga 1 fact remains that he would have won the race even if he'd ducked in behind Kimi on that corner.

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    if it's down to patronism i recon the swiss were celebrating yesterday.

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    edit: beaten to it, but I'll leave it up because it's bloody funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkvj View Post
    Comfortably 4th 10 minutes from the end? no. 4th he was, but there is no denying that vettel was reeling in, and quick. hambone ran wide and vettel took advantage, hamilton was 5th...still WDC winner at that point, no denying that either. rain falls, all go in for inters except the toyota's. hambone is 6th. 1 corner from the end, on the dry part, glock doesnt go so fast all of a sudden and hambone flies passed him. he didnt pull it out of the fire as you say
    Sorry, but you're wrong. Before it started to rain Hamilton was managing the gap to Vettel, IIRC he had just increased it by a couple of tenths when the rain began to fall. Vettel didn't pass him until AFTER the rain started and AFTER they came in for inters.

    If Glock had pitted for inters he would never have got past Hamilton in the first place. What happened was just the order re-asserting itself after the rain was falling sufficiently for the inters to start working and the dry tyres to fall away

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkeeber View Post
    Bahhhhahahaha... your head is so far up ferrari's arse you can taste what they had for lunch.
    likewise to you and hamilton

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