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    S15s don't have then at all...

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    I could do to strip the rear hubs down for shotblasting but don't want to be messing with wheel bearings and pullers. If I remove these 4 bolts from the hub, can I just pull the drive flange off?



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    Yeah, but it isn't always easy to get the things out of the upright

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenTaylor200 View Post
    Personally I don't think the diff oil cooler is necessary. Mine went in the skip years ago...
    Interesting, utter madness in my eyes, I cannot understand why anyone would remove one myself. SM did and then had immediate problems on track, which isnt a surprise. Nissan thought it was needed on a standard car, let alone something that is putting 2 or 3 times the torque through the diff..... One of the skyline boys rigged up a light for each cooler, so when it was being used the light came on, they all came on with some "light" European touring....suffice to say, mine will be staying.

    anyway, sorry for going off topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenTaylor200 View Post
    Yeah, but it isn't always easy to get the things out of the upright
    Thanks Ben It's worth a try then
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    Lot easier to give it to the spanner monkey to do then lol
    Let lynxy have some fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squares View Post
    Interesting, utter madness in my eyes, I cannot understand why anyone would remove one myself. SM did and then had immediate problems on track, which isnt a surprise. Nissan thought it was needed on a standard car, let alone something that is putting 2 or 3 times the torque through the diff..... One of the skyline boys rigged up a light for each cooler, so when it was being used the light came on, they all came on with some "light" European touring....suffice to say, mine will be staying.

    anyway, sorry for going off topic.
    There are a lot of parts that Nissan deemed necessary which I have opted to remove

    The diff oil coolers are pretty pointless, if you actually look at the operating parameters in the FSM you'll see that it doesn't operate unless you're driving at over 75mph and the oil is over 130 degrees!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrol View Post
    Those brake disks are appalling - all that rust on the face...

    Have you considered painting them silver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenTaylor200 View Post
    Personally I don't think the diff oil cooler is necessary. Mine went in the skip years ago...
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicely View Post
    S15s don't have then at all...
    Quote Originally Posted by Squares View Post
    Interesting, utter madness in my eyes, I cannot understand why anyone would remove one myself. SM did and then had immediate problems on track, which isnt a surprise. Nissan thought it was needed on a standard car, let alone something that is putting 2 or 3 times the torque through the diff..... One of the skyline boys rigged up a light for each cooler, so when it was being used the light came on, they all came on with some "light" European touring....suffice to say, mine will be staying.

    anyway, sorry for going off topic.
    Argument is inconsistent here...

    Ben and the S15 Type Rs use torsen LSDs

    SM uses a Viscous LSD

    The oil in the viscous LSD is used in a much different way to that in the Torsen and it WILL get hotter. I would suggest that the viscous LSDs need a cooler but 14s should have the switching points adjusted/ overridden for track use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrol View Post
    Thanks Ben It's worth a try then
    loosen off the 4 bolts and wail on them with a big hammer

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    Quote Originally Posted by scimmy ben View Post
    14s should have the switching points adjusted/ overridden for track use.
    If you short out pins 3 & 4 on differential oil cooler relay 2 (T15) it will ignore the speed and switch solely on temperature

    The relay is in the RHS of the boot.
    Relay 1 is blue.
    Relay 2 is black
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squares View Post
    Interesting, utter madness in my eyes, I cannot understand why anyone would remove one myself. SM did and then had immediate problems on track, which isnt a surprise. Nissan thought it was needed on a standard car, let alone something that is putting 2 or 3 times the torque through the diff..... One of the skyline boys rigged up a light for each cooler, so when it was being used the light came on, they all came on with some "light" European touring....suffice to say, mine will be staying.
    Really? Funny how they never fitted them on Australian S14s.... I'd have thought they needed them much more than Europe...

    Anyhow. You have far more patience and persistence than me, Petrol

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    The diff oil coolers are pretty pointless, if you actually look at the operating parameters in the FSM you'll see that it doesn't operate unless you're driving at over 75mph and the oil is over 130 degrees!
    I guess that is a pretty extreme set of parameters, more the temp rather than the speed.....guess it may be over kill as yours is clearly ok after a fair few years.

    Even so, think I will keep mine.....might even upgrade it to a 19row one to be sure!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy View Post
    Those brake disks are appalling - all that rust on the face...

    Have you considered painting them silver?
    I need to replace the rear disks but will probably lacquer them to prevent corrosion


    Quote Originally Posted by Squares View Post
    I guess that is a pretty extreme set of parameters, more the temp rather than the speed.....
    The diff high temp light illuminates at 180C, if Ben hasn't had a problem with the HP he is running, then it’s not really needed. If anyone has a diffy rad in good nick I would be interested – mine looks a bit “shabby” I want to re fit the diff cooler parts for the “factory look”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrol View Post
    I need to replace the rear disks but will probably lacquer them to prevent corrosion
    Won't that wear off the minute it gets driven.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy View Post
    Won't that wear off the minute it gets driven.....
    Not with the way I drive
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    Quote Originally Posted by archenemy.co.uk View Post
    loosen off the 4 bolts and wail on them with a big hammer
    Good tip that, thanks



    Good job I stripped em. Anyone got a backplate without a hole in it?



    Most of the parts are off to be professionally shot/bead blasted. Parts that require a bit of care I will clean up myself like the drive flange. Don't want dirt getting inside so I have made a temporary seal out of tubing.

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    Fuel tank heat shield, looks like I am going to have to weld some pieces in





    Fuel tank is a work of art



    Needs to come out though







    This is the problem




    How do I get the handbrake cable out? I have unbolted everything. Do you pull it out from inside the car?
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    What bit of the handbrake cable are you struggling with?

    Just hotwire the fuel pump, with a legth of fuel hose on the outlet, into the S13

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    Everything is disconnected underneath but can't see how to get the cables out It says in the manual to undo the adjusting nut but the plate at the end of the black outer cable, is riveted to the handbrake mechanism



    Good idea to get rid of the fuel
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