Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 62

Thread: AP Racing Brake Kits

  1. #1
    Guest hriggs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Barnton, Edinburgh
    Posts
    1,908
    Rides
    0

    AP Racing Brake Kits

    Wondering how much you can do a kit for -

    355mm discs, 6 pot calipers for a 14a

    Apex say 1500 for the full kit, and I have spoken to Demon Tweeks who say they can do discs for £210 and calipers for £280 (but I'd have to get the rest myself.

    Surely the extra bits to make it fit, inc. hoses and fluid etc arnt £1000?

    I'm probably wrong though

    any idea?

  2. #2
    Guest SM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Todmorden & Apex.
    Posts
    34,447
    Rides
    0
    You'll need caliper relocation brackets, and the bells to go with the disks.

  3. #3
    aka ダニエル・サン Daniel san's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    SRB, Grays, Essex.
    Posts
    20,175
    Rides
    0
    I'm sure those prices will probably be each too surely?

    Anyway, any reason why you want that big a disc? Other than it'll look good behind your wheels If you don't need them for stopping power, you're just adding extra weight over that of a smalled kit with adequate stopping power.

  4. #4
    Guest Butuz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Newport, UK
    Posts
    6,941
    Rides
    0
    riggy running standard disks and standard pads with standard hoses and unknown brake fluid.

    I've told him to get some uprated pads first but i can see he has his heart set on a big ol set of AP's

    Btw riggs - it doesnt really matter how good your brakes are if your running crap tyres.

    Butuz

  5. #5
    Guest SM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Todmorden & Apex.
    Posts
    34,447
    Rides
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel san
    Anyway, any reason why you want that big a disc? Other than it'll look good behind your wheels If you don't need them for stopping power, you're just adding extra weight over that of a smalled kit with adequate stopping power.
    And unsprung weight is worth double !!
    Bren, even with 400bhp, and slicks has never had need for bigger brakes than his 342mm 6-pot.

  6. #6
    aka ダニエル・サン Daniel san's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    SRB, Grays, Essex.
    Posts
    20,175
    Rides
    0
    Exactly, that's what I'm saying. I hear from people regularly that want the biggest kit possible, just for the hell of it.

    RAYS say that every 1kg of unsprung weight you lose, is equal to losing 15kg off the car. Guess that's why they strive to make their wheels as light as poss!

  7. #7
    Guest hriggs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Barnton, Edinburgh
    Posts
    1,908
    Rides
    0
    Butuz, dont worry, I will be getting some good tyres, I'm gonna have a word with Mr Bank manager to see if I can borrow some cash to get some wheels, these brakes and Brens coilover kit.

    I'll still be buying the wheels off you too though if thats still ok

    Only reason I want these brakes is cos they look so damn cool, and standard brakes would look a bit small behined these

    http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=173975

    Do you have any alternative suggestion? They are a tad pricey after all if just for the looks the occasional trip to the ring

  8. #8
    Guest hriggs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Barnton, Edinburgh
    Posts
    1,908
    Rides
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel san
    you're just adding extra weight over that of a smalled kit with adequate stopping power.
    Arent they pretty light though

  9. #9
    Guest Butuz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Newport, UK
    Posts
    6,941
    Rides
    0
    Those wheels look stunning - 5 spokes, black, polished lip - perfect as far as i am concerned

    Yeh come down and get the wheels any time you need to mate.

    As far as brakes go i would put them in this order:

    S14 - Steel 4 pots, 280x30mm vented disks

    Skyline R33GTST - Steel 4 pots, 296x30mm vented disks. Cheap

    Skyline R32GTR - Aluminium 4 pots, 296x32mm vented disks. Cheap (what i have)

    Apex (or other) big brake kit - 310x30mm vented and uses your S14 steel calipers. £500 odd

    Skyline R32GTR vspec / R33GTR / R34GTR - Brembo alloy 4 pot calipers 324 x 30mm disks quite expensive

    Exotic 6 pot 340mm+ kits bloody expensive

    Thats your rough options.

  10. #10
    Guest hriggs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Barnton, Edinburgh
    Posts
    1,908
    Rides
    0
    So do the skyline caliper produce more force on the disk? or is it the size of the disk that makes the difference?

    What would stop better... and resist fade (dont like fade - scares me )

    S14 calipers and 310mm disk.. or

    R32GTR calipers and 296mm disk?
    Last edited by hriggs; 28-09-2005 at 22:51.

  11. #11
    Guest SM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Todmorden & Apex.
    Posts
    34,447
    Rides
    0
    310 disk, calipers are similar, as I think both are the same thickness, newer skyline disks are 324mm and sometimes go cheap, sometimes are hard to find in good nick.

  12. #12
    Guest hriggs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Barnton, Edinburgh
    Posts
    1,908
    Rides
    0
    hmmm

    Looks like its not as easy as 'they are I want them' then.

    Some carefull considering to be done

  13. #13
    Guest Butuz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Newport, UK
    Posts
    6,941
    Rides
    0
    In all honesty i think all 4 pots are much of a muchness - only difference between some and others is that some are alloy and light and some are steel and heavy, some have nissan on them and some have brembo on them.

    The thing that has the biggest effect on braking is the pads, the second biggest effect is the size of the disk.

    Butuz

  14. #14
    Guest Butuz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Newport, UK
    Posts
    6,941
    Rides
    0
    Price is all it comes down to for me. I picked up my R32GTR calipers, with grooved disks, and slightly worn ferrodo 2500 pads for £150. Your not going to get any better breaking value than that, and they fit under 16" wheels.

    Butuz

  15. #15
    Guest hriggs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Barnton, Edinburgh
    Posts
    1,908
    Rides
    0
    ok cheers for the info, I'll have to have a think about it - it is a lot or money for brakes.

    but

  16. #16
    Flamethrower Jez's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Chieveley, Near Newbury, Berkshire
    Posts
    22,379
    Rides
    0
    I want some one to make a brake kit like brens, using standard 4-pot calipers, but with bigger disks that'll fit under 17" wheels. I'm currently running the 310mm kit, but want a larger disk (as thats the main thing that'll make you stop quicker) because I get fade on track.

    Anyone wanna make up some brackets and bells for me??

  17. #17
    Guest
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Basingstoke
    Posts
    7,656
    Rides
    0
    So you don't think the brembo 4 pots offer better clamping pressure? I know the AP's will but like you say the size of the disk is very important.

  18. #18
    Flamethrower Jez's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Chieveley, Near Newbury, Berkshire
    Posts
    22,379
    Rides
    0
    The clamping pressure isn't the problem - dissipating the heat is. Bigger disks will help with this. Slowing down on track is all about turning the kinetic energy of the car into heat and then getting rid of that heat. I might try some proper ducting to the disks - thats sposed to help a lot but theres limited space to get ducts in on my car.

    AP/Brembo calipers will most likely be lighter and probably more ridgid than the Z32 ones I've got - but they're very expensive.

  19. #19
    Guest Butuz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Newport, UK
    Posts
    6,941
    Rides
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Jez
    I want some one to make a brake kit like brens, using standard 4-pot calipers, but with bigger disks that'll fit under 17" wheels. I'm currently running the 310mm kit, but want a larger disk (as thats the main thing that'll make you stop quicker) because I get fade on track.

    Anyone wanna make up some brackets and bells for me??
    Have you thought about either getting some bigger spacers made up to move the calipers out? Eg - if you could move the calipers out another 7mm - you could fit 324mm R33/34 gtr disks on there? The other alternative is to get some R33GTST/R32GTR calipers - they are already spaced out 8mm more than the S14 ones due to their size and shape?

    I have wanted to experement with brens 310mm caliper spacers, my R32GTR calpers, and some skyline disks. Just need to get the bits.

    Butuz

  20. #20
    Guest hriggs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Barnton, Edinburgh
    Posts
    1,908
    Rides
    0
    Are there any other big brake kits available for less cash then the AP one? I've checked stoptech and brembo (looked for Grex but cant find anything on them) - I cant find another kit for the 200, although I cant find one on the AP website either

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •