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    I'm not sure the BBC are following this thread...

    I'm not sure the BBC are following this thread :wack:
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    You're saying the same thing as me but overlaying...

    You're saying the same thing as me but overlaying your view that No Deal is all that's going to happen therefore guaranteed that we'll need a KAP. You said it was a thing - I disagree with that,...
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    And it's the if that's important.

    And it's the if that's important.
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    That doesn't change the fact that the way it's...

    That doesn't change the fact that the way it's been reported and the way you've interpreted it both seem to be wildly at odds with the actual way that stuff went down and what was meant by it.
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    Wait, what did he literally say that confirmed IT...

    Wait, what did he literally say that confirmed IT IS or IT WILL BE an actual requirement.... Like, literally?

    I've just watched it and he says, roughly word for word:
    Reasonable worst case...
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    Where have the government confirmed that it is an...

    Where have the government confirmed that it is an actual requirement, not a potential requirement that may need to come into force IF certain other things happen / don't happen?
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    Not got an issue with any part of what you've...

    Not got an issue with any part of what you've said but it still doesn't make the KAP an actual real thing and nor does it make the reporting any less disingenuous. That's what irked me.
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    :thumbs:

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    Let me clarify that. The way it's been...

    Let me clarify that.

    The way it's been reported at headline level is thus (literal copy paste from Al Beeb):

    Brexit: Lorry drivers will need a permit to enter Kent after transition period
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    Can I apply for a Kent Access Pass today? If I...

    Can I apply for a Kent Access Pass today?

    If I can't, then I'm not.
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    But even that doesn't necessarily = reasonable...

    But even that doesn't necessarily = reasonable worst case scenario for freight through Kent, does it? My take on it, and it was difficult to read between the lines because the hysteria headlines...
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    Is it? Is it not just worst case...

    Is it?



    Is it not just worst case scenario planning, then?
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    Definitely pull it all as one. It's a bugger...

    Definitely pull it all as one. It's a bugger doing them separate.
  14. Thread: New Nissan Z

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    That was kinda my fear.

    That was kinda my fear.
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    I see what you're getting at :thumbs: And...

    I see what you're getting at :thumbs:



    And with that in mind I can now state:
    Car - something that's awesome, giving personal freedom to go just about anywhere on a whim
    Electric car - shite...
  16. Thread: New Nissan Z

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    Yeah, no offence taken fella. At all. I could...

    Yeah, no offence taken fella. At all. I could make the argument on the moped, yes, but then I know people that have done the trip on MSX125 Monkey Bikes - which has a range of easily in excess of...
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    I'd reckon on the stems being iffy first and...

    I'd reckon on the stems being iffy first and foremost - but dipping it will tell all I guess.
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    Are the tyres then 9 years old mate?

    Are the tyres then 9 years old mate?
  19. Thread: New Nissan Z

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    Don't know how we got onto vehement dislike of...

    Don't know how we got onto vehement dislike of EV's from the Z car but yeah, all of that stuff just says bollocks to that from me, I'll stick with something that just works, ta.

    Read an Autocar...
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    Although that does flag an interesting point in...

    Although that does flag an interesting point in that I wonder what the range values on the website are now based on; presumably they'd base it on being a new car with new battery?

    So the...
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    A: Yes. I‑PACE’s battery has a 8 years or...

    A: Yes. I‑PACE’s battery has a 8 years or 160.000km (100.000 miles) warranty and is redeemable if the battery drops below a 70 percent state of health.

    Would have thought that's alright but I've...
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    First part - agree; but then that always means...

    First part - agree; but then that always means you have to have a second car up your sleeve, or hire something, when you need to do an actual journey that isn't popping to shops.

    Second part -...
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    What was that Zero 'touring' bike they made that...

    What was that Zero 'touring' bike they made that had a range of something like 90 miles at motorway speeds :wack: Imagine thinking yeah sod it I fancy the NC500 this weekend. It'd take you 4 days...
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    And thus, most likely, by the time it becomes...

    And thus, most likely, by the time it becomes affordable to import to Europe it'll be unobtainium levels of unaffordable.
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    Engine :thumbs: Looks: torn between...

    Engine :thumbs:

    Looks: torn between :sleep::indiff::no:

    Just a bit..... bland? Maybe?

    I mean don't get me wrong if it looked like a Juke I'd be :hurl: but it's got obvious styling cues...
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