What would you like in a new Smartphone

I have an interview next week for a major smartphone manufacturer and have to prepare a presentation.

I’ve worked for BlackBerry, have an iPhone and a Pixel 3, so am pretty up to date with the cam dos and can’t dos with Smartphone technology.

The companies try to deliver what they think the customer wants (it’s called innovation innit) but what do people really want?

I got one would like a common standard between accessories, so an Apple Watch would work with an Android phone... but we know that isn’t going to happen...


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I think alot of people would like to see the 3.5mm jack back, also a micro-SD card would be nice, you rarely get those anymore.

The trend seems to be going towards ever thinner bezels and ever thinner display edges.

Where to start...

1. Shit tons of memory and so I am able to move apps onto a sd card as that's a pain.

2. As an android user a way to have locked folders for our personal info or pictures of our pee pee's (you all do admit it)

3. Less standard apps that come on the phone you'll never use.

4. Something more interesting than a thin rectangular thing, maybe round? Maybe bring back a flip phone with two screens!?!? Or the slide with keypad!? Old but cool af.

5. Features you can personalise more, like colours, alert colours, make the alert led down the sides of the phone so it lights up more, have a rear screen because why not? Hell add a Swiss army functionality to it,.

6. More for me but as a mechanic something that can withstand dust, drops, waterproof, better ways to keep shit out of headphone jack and charging ports as I am constantly cleaning them, if you offered a real heavy duty case that be helpful as 99% are utter shite.

7. Good luck I am sure you'll send it.

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It to not cost a grand.

easier to hold and less slippy.
smaller smart phones.

Some interesting ideas.

I’m not sure the 3.5mm Jack is going to come back. You have USB-C and Lightning ports that do Audio. And you get an adapter

Bezels are a waste of screen estate and users seem to want bigger screens. Remember Apple stole the BlackBerry 10 gestures for home for the iPhone X - it actually makes the experience more fluid

I get the additional apps and the skins aren’t to everyone’s taste, why I chose a pixel 3 with native android... most android manufacturers include skins that aren’t that intuitive.

Personal space. You can get on Android if you use Android Enterprise, but the container solutions are again not so intuitive


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Ryan, buy a cheaper phone. I’d like a Ferrari not to cost over £100K


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Originally Posted by green_rs13

easier to hold and less slippy.
smaller smart phones.

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I get this. Girls with small hands can’t one hand text anymore


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Originally Posted by Asht_200

I get this. Girls with small hands can’t one hand text anymore


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Can't strum one out lmao haha, pardon I had to.

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Originally Posted by s13spooner

Can't strum one out lmao haha, pardon I had to.

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Can't strum one out lmao haha, pardon I had to.

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If you had a hand free, you could have used it to hold your ass on. Just saying :)

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If you had a hand free, you could have used it to hold your ass on. Just saying :)

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Ok. Had jokes...

Please, some sensible answers. What would you really like?


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Serious notes.

. Being able to personalise it more
. Tough for work places like proper covers for ports and fall damage protection
. Good phone speaker both for music and calls
. Diffrent styling from the norm like more flashy bits
. Limited editions?


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I just had to renew my phone cos my sammy 8 died on me last week, reluctantly went to a 10+ 5g because .... well its one of the best.

So what do i want in a phone?

A large screen, i use mine a lot for mobile web so its got to be on a decent sized screen but not a tablet.
Good processing power - i do not want to wait on a computer doing something so its got to shift.
Storage capacity, nothing stupid like 2Gig or something as i simply dont think its needed - large volumes of data should be in the cloud where it is "safe"... that said pony capacity is also not good so a decent in-between like 256 and 512 options.
Excellent camera, another thing i use my device a lot for is pictures. I dont want to carry another camera for 95% of the shots i take so its vital the phone has a great camera system. Multiple lenses and ToF sensors plus optical zoom which is a killer.

Finally the 2 biggies.
Its got to be an established OS that is updated frequently and with yearly optimizations and more importantly added facilities. It has to be secure as well.
And... with the OS comes the application store. This is the kicker and where MS and Blackcherry fail massivly.

You want to do well in the phone space you need a big fully fledged and working application store, i will not buy into a phone platform that has 2 dozen apps and thats it. Same reason i junked the windows phones we were getting in, for a start (at the time) there was no jabber client for them. but there is an Android and IOS one.

So if Brownberry wants to sell devices then it really needs to go Android.

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Serious notes.

. Being able to personalise it more
. Tough for work places like proper covers for ports and fall damage protection
. Good phone speaker both for music and calls
. Diffrent styling from the norm like more flashy bits
. Limited editions?


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How much are you willing to pay for that? Cost, Size? Battery life?

Phones are slimline because that is what people want. Batteries take up most of the space because people want to use them for more than a day. And they want big screens. There is not much room inside a smartphone


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A humanitarian supply chain that doesn't involve Foxconn
An end to planned obsolescence, designed to be durable & repairable
Standards for device sizes and connectors so accessories outlast a single device and can be designed properly (we've all seen what happens in cars)
Better battery life
Ability to dock and double up as a PC (proper monitor, proper keyboard & mouse, proper desktop OS)
Better antanea (looking at you, iPhone)

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Originally Posted by sideways14a

I just had to renew my phone cos my sammy 8 died on me last week, reluctantly went to a 10+ 5g because .... well its one of the best.

So what do i want in a phone?

A large screen, i use mine a lot for mobile web so its got to be on a decent sized screen but not a tablet.
Good processing power - i do not want to wait on a computer doing something so its got to shift.
Storage capacity, nothing stupid like 2Gig or something as i simply dont think its needed - large volumes of data should be in the cloud where it is "safe"... that said pony capacity is also not good so a decent in-between like 256 and 512 options.
Excellent camera, another thing i use my device a lot for is pictures. I dont want to carry another camera for 95% of the shots i take so its vital the phone has a great camera system. Multiple lenses and ToF sensors plus optical zoom which is a killer.

Finally the 2 biggies.
Its got to be an established OS that is updated frequently and with yearly optimizations and more importantly added facilities. It has to be secure as well.
And... with the OS comes the application store. This is the kicker and where MS and Blackcherry fail massivly.

You want to do well in the phone space you need a big fully fledged and working application store, i will not buy into a phone platform that has 2 dozen apps and thats it. Same reason i junked the windows phones we were getting in, for a start (at the time) there was no jabber client for them. but there is an Android and IOS one.

So if Brownberry wants to sell devices then it really needs to go Android.

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They did, years ago and also had a slider physical keyboard.

I don’t work for them btw... I did and they were a great company to work for except the upper management didn’t listen... but have an interview next week with a major vendor


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The common standards thing is annoying because we all know, for certain, that an apple watch could work on an android handset and vice versa without any issues.
The problem is the companies.

I really really dislike the walled garden approach Apple takes, its why i will not buy or recomend any of there overpriced junk. Open standards, to a point, are much more flexible and give the end user more options.

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Originally Posted by sideways14a

The common standards thing is annoying because we all know, for certain, that an apple watch could work on an android handset and vice versa without any issues.
The problem is the companies.

I really really dislike the walled garden approach Apple takes, its why i will not buy or recomend any of there overpriced junk. Open standards, to a point, are much more flexible and give the end user more options.

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I get the walled garden, but it has been good for their share holders which is what a corporate is about. But don’t call them overpriced junk. They are actually good phones.

And if you don’t like some of the Samsung stuff blame the Brits [emoji6] I forget we are so much better than everyone else these days... cough Brexit


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Originally Posted by Asht_200

How much are you willing to pay for that? Cost, Size? Battery life?

Phones are slimline because that is what people want. Batteries take up most of the space because people want to use them for more than a day. And they want big screens. There is not much room inside a smartphone


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Size wise I currently run a Sony Xperia AX2 (I think) and I find it perfect size over my work phone Samsung A10 which imo is bit too big, battery life to run day is fine for me in my workplace, and to be honest there is many a way to charge a phone these days so not as big on an issue imo, cost I couldn't say without knowing what software and hardware costs to what limitations each has, I don't even know how much my Sony was as it was a while ago now but I was happy to pay for it when I did.

I like the idea of stoofers of a docking to a desktop, would be very handy for me as I use my phones for a lot of applications in my workplace and to be able to upload or Dock onto an existing desktop or a device that is alike would be handy for me looking up part diagrams we get emailed through.

I felt my needs are out of the ordinary for many others so didn't suggest my main needs as it won't suit others but ideas around running a business and mechanics workshop is where I am at.

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Originally Posted by Asht_200

I get the walled garden, but it has been good for their share holders which is what a corporate is about. But don’t call them overpriced junk. They are actually good phones.

And if you don’t like some of the Samsung stuff blame the Brits [emoji6] I forget we are so much better than everyone else these days... cough Brexit


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I get the walled garden, and yeah I see how they are there price to an extent but the limitations I found apple had was annoying, android had more flexibility imo and a easier to grasp operating system (going by teaching my grandparents how to use one)

Price range will always vary I think its hard to say how much I want to pay as if something has that one more feature that's more suited to me I will go for it at that extra expense, having more odd but useful and practical features would sway me to buy diffrent, let's face it every phone has a camera and even the lowest pixle camera is still pretty dam good [emoji23]

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I hate Apple with a passion, there walled garden approach and sky high prices because they have an image and brand might be fine for there shareholders but sucks for customers.
Its not just there mobile kit but there entire operation i dislike, style over substance reeks through nearly every single overpriced product. Like the Mac pro i recently had to get in for a bloody academic that wouldn't listen to me about using a PC that most certanally would have done what he wanted twice as fast or less money. Yes that shit quad core that cost 2k+ and throttled its tits off when you did anything even remotely involving.
They need to remember where they came from, remember being bailed out by the old enemy (Microsoft) - if it wasnt for that Apple would be rotten and dead right now.
Soz, apple rant over.

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Originally Posted by sideways14a

I hate Apple with a passion, there walled garden approach and sky high prices because they have an image and brand might be fine for there shareholders but sucks for customers.
Its not just there mobile kit but there entire operation i dislike, style over substance reeks through nearly every single overpriced product. Like the Mac pro i recently had to get in for a bloody academic that wouldn't listen to me about using a PC that most certanally would have done what he wanted twice as fast or less money. Yes that shit quad core that cost 2k+ and throttled its tits off when you did anything even remotely involving.
They need to remember where they came from, remember being bailed out by the old enemy (Microsoft) - if it wasnt for that Apple would be rotten and dead right now.
Soz, apple rant over.

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Just remember. If it wasn’t for Renault.. Nissan would be dead now

Don’t blame Apple, just blame the restards
Who bought into it. Apple
Just gave what the sheep wanted.

My iPhone X is really
Good. Better than the Pixel 3. Heaps better for taking photos than my sister in-laws Premium Android phone.

Just not as good as my Nikon D-SLR


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To be honest after seeing the shit both Renault and Nissan squirt out now i couldnt really care if either were still on the go.

Then again it wouldnt have brought us the hilarity with Ghosn and his great escape. :D

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Originally Posted by sideways14a

To be honest after seeing the shit both Renault and Nissan squirt out now i couldnt really care if either were still on the go.

Then again it wouldnt have brought us the hilarity with Ghosn and his great escape. :D

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I heard he hid in a double bass case.

Come on, let’s be honest. It’s like John Mcafee escaping the country [emoji2957][emoji23]


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Total privacy! Blocks all attempts to track my location, my preferences, my conversations and my browsing history.

Zero advertising- similar to ad blocker.

Zero software updates - my phone gets worse every time I do this on my iPhone.

Long battery life.

And finally more customisation, iPhone is really limiting.

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Total privacy! Blocks all attempts to track my location, my preferences, my conversations and my browsing history.

Zero advertising- similar to ad blocker.

Zero software updates - my phone gets worse every time I do this on my iPhone.

Long battery life.

And finally more customisation, iPhone is really limiting.

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You can do that. Get Android

There was an other OS that gave that option but didn’t sell because “ Apple and Google don’t want them to have apps”

My mum hates Smart phones because she has to learn how to use them. Google , Apple and Facebook refused to support, even though (people who never used it will not know why) the BlackBerry 10 UI was better than what Apple and Android provided... but the CEO’s refused to believe Apps were the future. ****ing muppets


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I currently have a Sony xa2. The only thing I would change about it is to make it a bit smaller, yes I am a girl btw

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I currently have a Sony xa2. The only thing I would change about it is to make it a bit smaller, yes I am a girl btw

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Really? From your past posts I would have said you were a dude lol

So what can you get your hand around? [emoji2957] no seriously, how big a phone? iPhone 6? Smaller beat phone I had was the candy bar Z10


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I think all phones should try and emulate the samsung galaxy note 10 +, decent screen ,1 TB memory, S pen for presentations or to write on the screen or taking pictures remotely, DeX docking station to turn it into a desk top, huge battery that lasts two days all it's missing is the infra red blaster, I miss switching the TV over in the pub or hospital ect also was good for aircon units, would basically operate anything that was infra red dont know why they removed it, not had one since the note 4.

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Really? From your past posts I would have said you were a dude lol

So what can you get your hand around? [emoji2957] no seriously, how big a phone? iPhone 6? Smaller beat phone I had was the candy bar Z10


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Really, Ash ? :facepalm:

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I think all phones should try and emulate the samsung galaxy note 10 +, decent screen ,1 TB memory, S pen for presentations or to write on the screen or taking pictures remotely, DeX docking station to turn it into a desk top, huge battery that lasts two days all it's missing is the infra red blaster, I miss switching the TV over in the pub or hospital ect also was good for aircon units, would basically operate anything that was infra red dont know why they removed it, not had one since the note 4.

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You used to change people’s TV over in a hospital? You really are a c**t


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You used to change people’s TV over in a hospital? You really are a c**t

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I used to change peoples TV's over while I was out walking the dog.

If you're gunna have to have a 60" Samsung right by the window in your small terrace home this thing is gunna happen.

I used to do this in the pub, was hilarious back in the day when it was not common to see an IR interface on a phone.

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Originally Posted by sx rider

Total privacy! Blocks all attempts to track my location, my preferences, my conversations and my browsing history.

Zero advertising- similar to ad blocker.

Zero software updates - my phone gets worse every time I do this on my iPhone.

Long battery life.

And finally more customisation, iPhone is really limiting.

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Originally Posted by Asht_200

You can do that. Get Android

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Quoting SX-Rider for truth and for having posted almost exactly what I was going to post, sums up my views exactly.
Privacy.
No links or personal data to Micro£oft, Google or Apple at all unless I choose to have them.
Only slight disagreement, I would allow software updates BUT only if I have the option not to install them.

Ash: don't understand your suggesting Android. As I understand it doesn't Android = Google ?

My out of date Nokia Lumia Windows 8 phone (do NOT update to 10 whatever you do) continues to suit me fine, despite the intrusive and transparent links to Micro$oft, data mining for email addresses, personal details etc etc. Given they have had me on their books since Windows 3.11, '95, '98 etc they had all that stuff anyway. Just not willing to add to it in these increasingly data sensitive days.

In an ideal world I'd like a phone which would allow me to install my own preferred flavour of Linux. This has proved to be the answer with all my personal laptops and PC's, even for the techno-phobic Luddite other half.

Rumours persist of someone trying to build and market a Linux mobile but there doesn't seem any reasonable likelihood of it ever getting off the ground and, even if it did, likely prohibitive cost.

Oh well, pipe dreams and slippers..

You can set your privacy settings with Android .

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Quoting SX-Rider for truth and for having posted almost exactly what I was going to post, sums up my views exactly.
Privacy.
No links or personal data to Micro£oft, Google or Apple at all unless I choose to have them.
Only slight disagreement, I would allow software updates BUT only if I have the option not to install them.

Ash: don't understand your suggesting Android. As I understand it doesn't Android = Google ?

My out of date Nokia Lumia Windows 8 phone (do NOT update to 10 whatever you do) continues to suit me fine, despite the intrusive and transparent links to Micro$oft, data mining for email addresses, personal details etc etc. Given they have had me on their books since Windows 3.11, '95, '98 etc they had all that stuff anyway. Just not willing to add to it in these increasingly data sensitive days.

In an ideal world I'd like a phone which would allow me to install my own preferred flavour of Linux. This has proved to be the answer with all my personal laptops and PC's, even for the techno-phobic Luddite other half.

Rumours persist of someone trying to build and market a Linux mobile but there doesn't seem any reasonable likelihood of it ever getting off the ground and, even if it did, likely prohibitive cost.

Oh well, pipe dreams and slippers..

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I mentioned Android because realistically you have 2 choices.

Apple
Or an Android Phone

There have been many pretenders that have not endured

BlackBerry with QNX (Now out of the market completely)
Microsoft
Samsung with Tizen
Firefox with a Linux based phone

Even Amazon tried

And all have failed because they will not be able to compete with the current App eco space

Until someone comes out with something that completely revolutionises the way people behave. I believe we are stuck with these 2 for the foreseeable future

Innovation will not change people’s perception


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I hear people say they want privacy, and then they use Google Maps. Or Gmail. Or Chrome. Or Google. Or Facebook. Or WhatsApp. Or Alexa. Or voice commands on Xbox. Or Cortana. OK, I don't actually know anyone doing that last one.

I think what we really need is legislation to stop companies being c**ts, which the EU at least seems to be kee......ahhhhhh B*LLOCKS!

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I hear people say they want privacy, and then they use Google Maps. Or Gmail. Or Chrome. Or Google. Or Facebook. Or WhatsApp. Or Alexa. Or voice commands on Xbox. Or Cortana. OK, I don't actually know anyone doing that last one.

I think what we really need is legislation to stop companies being c**ts, which the EU at least seems to be kee......ahhhhhh B*LLOCKS!

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Yep GDPR goes some way to protect us from the Patriot Act... but as you say

And the UK government is introducing something to piss the tech companies off so...


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That new tax??

Thats needed to be fair, those dickheads have taken the piss for ****ing ages.

I thought it was good going that we've gone ahead with it, France buckled at the first bit of pressure from the states
Probably good timing, our relations are at abit of a low point with the various political/legal scandals that have gone on recently.

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That new tax??

Thats needed to be fair, those dickheads have taken the piss for ****ing ages.

I thought it was good going that we've gone ahead with it, France buckled at the first bit of pressure from the states
Probably good timing, our relations are at abit of a low point with the various political/legal scandals that have gone on recently.

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The UK / Crown seem to own all the Tax Havens. We even own the Isle of Man etc... it’s a bit more than the Amazons etc


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Originally Posted by Asht_200

The UK / Crown seem to own all the Tax Havens. We even own the Isle of Man etc... it’s a bit more than the Amazons etc

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Aren't they crown dependencies tho?
So essentially we've 'got their back' if something kicks off but otherwise they're free to run their own affairs?

I'm not sure we can just swagger in and tell them they will be completely changing their tax system.

Apparently, they have dropped the “Royal” I guess the Greek had his way lol


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