you got to read this! its mental!!!!!!!

[kingdeacon]

ive just been given a floopy disk off a mate from work, and on it is a 64kb file. he told me to put it on my pc and run it, i asked why, what is it? he simply said just check it out. so i have, AND F**K ME ITS MENTAL!!! it been compressed by a ratio of about 30000 to 1!!! it 1.9 GB TURNED UNTO 64KB!!! how i dont know, because i am no wiz kid on a pc. just thought some of you guys might want to see it, but i dont know how to post it anywhere, can i post a file on this board? if so how? as i said its only 64kb. its fully rendered garphics and sound for a least 20 minutes, bloody wicked.

[Jezz_S13]

email it to me and I can host it if you want.

[kingdeacon]

Originally posted by Jezz_S13:
email it to me and I can host it if you want.

jezz 13 u have mail

[kingdeacon]

Originally posted by Jezz_S13:
email it to me and I can host it if you want.

jezz 13 u have mail

[kingdeacon]

Originally posted by Jezz_S13:
email it to me and I can host it if you want.

jezz 13 u have mail

[kingdeacon]

not 2 posts but 3, how the hell did that happen

[SteveSadler]

Originally posted by kingdeacon:
ive just been given a floopy disk off a mate from work, and on it is a 64kb file. he told me to put it on my pc and run it, i asked why, what is it? he simply said just check it out. so i have, AND F**K ME ITS MENTAL!!! it been compressed by a ratio of about 30000 to 1!!! it 1.9 GB TURNED UNTO 64KB!!! how i dont know, because i am no wiz kid on a pc. just thought some of you guys might want to see it, but i dont know how to post it anywhere, can i post a file on this board? if so how? as i said its only 64kb. its fully rendered garphics and sound for a least 20 minutes, bloody wicked.

email to me too please


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[Jezz_S13]

Hey King' whats really funny is that I don't have mail. http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif

BTW, You sold your car yet?

[kingdeacon]

you should have it now, i sent it first with hotmail, thats not working so ive used genie. oh, i still have the car

[kingdeacon]

whats going on, that email never worked??????

[Jezz_S13]

Everybody it's here

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/fr08_final.zip

Cheers Deacon. http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif

[kingdeacon]

jezz, what do you think? how have they done it?

[Jezz_S13]

Feck knows, scary cool though. What else is it doing to my PC?

[geoff_s14]

I can't open the file, it says d3d8.ddl is missing. What's going on? What is it?

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Geoff
Emerald S14a

http://www.animfactory.com/animations/transportation/cars/mirror_md_clr.gif

[Jezz_S13]

Yeah I've seen that too Geoff, I think it's is something to do with DirectX.
Or perhaps a OpenGL or Glide DLL.

[geoff_s14]

Jez,

So does this mean I can't open the file? What is it?

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Geoff
Emerald S14a

http://www.animfactory.com/animations/transportation/cars/mirror_md_clr.gif

[Asht_200]

Originally posted by geoff_s14:
Jez,

So does this mean I can't open the file? What is it?



Install DirectX 8.1 from Windows Update

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[dave_s13]

I was enjoying that 'till it rebooted my machine half way through.

Geoff; If u don't have a half decent 3D graphics card or accelerator it won't work.

I u have then download the latest drivers for it and also install DirectX.

Has anyone run it using a 56k modem or on a PC thats not hooked up to the web, I wonder if its streaming data while its running??? Clever stuff, wouldn't be sat here if I understood how thats done.

[Johnny]

Anyone care to explain what is going on ???

or do I need this file to understand ?
if so .... anyone care to email it to me

cheers

Johnny

[Asht_200]

Originally posted by Johnny:
Anyone care to explain what is going on ???

or do I need this file to understand ?
if so .... anyone care to email it to me

cheers

Johnny


Brings back memories of my Amiga. Jesus on Es, then onto PC, Future Crew (2nd Reality) Anarchy, Rennaisance


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Ported Head
HKS Super Seq BOV
17" Momo Arrow
Alpine / Rockford Fosgate / Infinity ICE

Next Mods
T28 Hybrid
Uprated Fuel Pump
Boost Upgrade

[Nathan_200sx]

Originally posted by dave_s13:


Has anyone run it using a 56k modem or on a PC thats not hooked up to the web, I wonder if its streaming data while its running??? Clever stuff, wouldn't be sat here if I understood how thats done.
Yeah Thats what we thought so we ran it on a standalone machine and it still worked, it's the best thing I've seen in ages. theres all sorts of theories floating about here from fractal commpression to video on demand compression. whatever it is it's bloody amazing. were just trying to get the proccess id at the moment and have some stuff watching temp directories in the background



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Nathan
Red S13 Mongoose, K&N T3 280ish BHP
Quick!!! Act as if nothing has happend!

[geoff_s14]

I've now got direct X, but the program will only load so far before it crashes out and reports a DX error.

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Geoff
Emerald S14a

http://www.animfactory.com/animations/transportation/cars/mirror_md_clr.gif

[dave_s13]

R u trying to watch it on your 14" black and white??? http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif


What graphics card u got??

What version of Direct X did u install??

[This message has been edited by dave_s13 (edited 16-11-2001).]

[geoff_s14]

Can someone please just tell me what the heck it is you are talking about? What is the program? Is it just a mega compressed video format or summat? Please?

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Geoff
Emerald S14a

http://www.animfactory.com/animations/transportation/cars/mirror_md_clr.gif

[Paul_S13]

Its a good demo showing that you don't need huge textures to have good graphics.

All the textures aren't very detailed and some are repeated quite alot, with DirectX,G lide and OpenGL the actual source code is very small its the textures that make up the bulk of the program and i'm certain that it decompresses them into the graphics cards buffer, so the actual exe file will be small.

There are alot of demo competitions for demos under a certain file size.

[dave_s13]

You run it and get lots of pretty walkthroughs of fully rendered environments and BG music, bit like a computer game. The clever thing being that the original ZIP file is only 62k.

[geoff_s14]

I've got DirectX8.1, video card I'm not sure of, but according to the system information its an ATI RAGE llC.

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Geoff
Emerald S14a

http://www.animfactory.com/animations/transportation/cars/mirror_md_clr.gif

[geoff_s14]

Thanks for the description. I'll go home happy now that I can create the experience in my imagination.


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Geoff
Emerald S14a

http://www.animfactory.com/animations/transportation/cars/mirror_md_clr.gif

[Rossy]

Hahaha...Geoff you crack me up http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif

[kingdeacon]

its dam cool for 64kb dont you think?

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loadz of side ways
nutty driving!
S13 red

[Richy_Boy]

Well I'm impressed, and have passed it onto our web, software design team.. At home now and tested it.. no internet connection (disconnected Cable modem).. and running on OC'd TNT2 Pro. So its not streaming, its all there.. 64k's worth.

I'm thinking it is using the fancy new DX8+ coding which means all the code is in DX8 rather than in the EXE file.. but still ... music on top.. WOW!

Splendid quality all the way through.. and for 64k!! Shhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeett!!

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Fed up with everyone having longer Sigs...
'91 Graphite Grey S13
ND200,SAAB IC,Jez Stage 1,300ZX Discs/Calipers
Coming soon: ProjectX (Wait for RR2 for details :) )

[Papa Lazarou]

Thats amazing!!

Works great on my Voodoo 5 card.

[Avinitlarge]

Where do I get this DirectX from?

[dave mca]

found this
http://www.theproduct.de/

[This message has been edited by dave mca (edited 17-11-2001).]

[This message has been edited by dave mca (edited 17-11-2001).]

[dave mca]

Originally posted by Avinitlarge:
Where do I get this DirectX from?

Most of the PC mags like "PC gamer" with the discs on the front give away all this kind of stuff on their mag discs. The latest version is DirectX8 and if you look at the link in my previous post the makers of that little program we`re all talking about state that you DO need it to run it.
Its usually in the utilities section on a PC Gamer mags cover disc.

[Nathan_200sx]

Got a lad at work to look into it.
Sent the demo to a mate in Sweden that has been doing demo coding...

I'll translate what he wrote...

1. Precalculation of the objects in the code, i.e. you calculate the objects manually, often cubes and cylinders (put together
to shape other forms)
2. You don't link the standard libraries, instead you use only the libraries d3d DDL's (direct X)
3. Using a hell of a good exe packer.
4. The textures are procedural textures, which means that they are being calculated as well.

But is is very nice http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif

Dont mean much to me but he was impressed.

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Nathan
Red S13 Mongoose, K&N T3 280ish BHP
Quick!!! Act as if nothing has happend!

[kingdeacon]

did anyone ever work out how this was done?

[Leon]

Originally posted by Jezz_S13:
<STRONG>Everybody it's here

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/fr08_final.zip

Cheers Deacon. http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif </STRONG>

It doesn't appear to be there now...

[JohnD76]

It is there starionman.

I think what Nat says is more or less spot on. Do you guys get the labels in white when you view it? EG Grass00, Door00? Since this is probably all the Exe is, a 3D space with surfaces labelled according to their Textures within DirectX Dll's. Hence the size is really small, all the big stuff sample textures and lightin effects are stored in the libraries and not the Exe. Same is probly true of the instruments for the music.

Fast POC and graphics card needed to produce the demo in realtime. Like the GT3 replays.

Well thats what I think. :)

Will use regmon and filemon, and proabably find all the calls are to DirectX librarys. Can't do so now as they are not installed an I am going out.

[Jezz_S13]

No i think i deleted it. Sorry.
Ooooooooooooppsssssss.!!!! :o

[cteam - S13]

I cant download it for some reason...
any one care to email it to me???

[Cheekee]

:eek: Please put it back ;)

[Jezz_S13]

For 5 stars I'll put it back tomorrow. :)

[Cheekee]

Jez U Got mail :D :D :D :D

[Jezz_S13]

Originally posted by CHEEKEE_S13:
<STRONG>Jez U Got mail :D :D :D :D</STRONG>

So have you, and I returned the fav ;) likewise.

[Cheekee]

:D :D :D :D :D

[andyf]

Originally posted by kingdeacon:
<STRONG>did anyone ever work out how this was done?</STRONG>

Assembler

[Jezz_S13]

okay you can d'load it now. http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/fr08_final.zip

[Cheekee]

:cool: WOW :cool:

[JohnD76]

Originally posted by Jezz_S13:
<STRONG>No i think i deleted it. Sorry.
Ooooooooooooppsssssss.!!!! :o</STRONG>

I downloaded it again last night though ?????

[Jezz_S13]

Originally posted by JohnD76:
<STRONG>

I downloaded it again last night though ?????</STRONG>

Not from my machine you didn't because I had to download it again from doing a google search this morining. I did a complete search of my machine and it was deleted out of trace. :confused: Perhaps it was cached by your ISP, but it sure as hell wasn't here? Wierd.

Jezz.

[JohnD76]

Bizarre!!!

I clicked on the link you posted in the thread, was told that I already had, would I like to overwrite?

I renamed the existing file by potting a 1 infront of the file name and click OK to commence download.

Was using a different ISP last time I downloaded it too?

Weird .....

[Jezz_S13]

That is freakish!
The reason I cleaned up was because a few people were scanning my server and d'loading everything so I removed anything not important.

I thought I kept a copy else where on my disc but the search came back with nothing, certainly not in wwwroot/200sx so I just googled for it and got it from somehwere else.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :eek:

[kingdeacon]

just found there 2nd 64k file, just as freakish! you need directx 8 same as before. http://www.theproduct.de/fr-019-final.zip

[Nick_Walczak]

Yeah, saw this about a year ago ;)

My guess is that it uses a helluva lot of API calls to DirectX - so the amount of code actually being used is bigger than you think.

It *is* impressive though.