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Sorry for the latin.
Fuel pump is dead, went on the A50, first of all it was fine for cruising and underfuelled like a bastard on accelleration (another use for my mdm-100)... got to where I was going, and couldn't start the thing at all.
Anyone replaced one ? Screws in the tank behind the RHS passenger seat as a big module containing the pump, level sensor, and fuel feeds. Somewhat suprised by the £222+vat price tag.
I see there is mention of some special tool for taking it out in the service manual. Anyone done it ? Any help would be great, as the car is now 60 miles away until I can get the train over to fix it when the part comes in !!! Wondering if a chain wrench would get it off if anyone could check the clearance for me ?
Tom
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1996 Blue/Green S14 (manual)
K&N cone filter
2.5" Tube-torque Cat Back Exhaust.
TechTom MDM-100
Race-Technology AP-22
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Special tool for that job in our workshop is a blunt chisel and a small hammer http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
Careful not to make too many sparks though....
Nice one, cheers. I guess if I pop across the road to the nissan dealer to ask to borrow the tool I won't get far then ? http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
Am I right in thinking the whole lot is replaced in one go then ? Do I need a gallon of boiling water and geoff capes to pull off the fuel pipes ?
Can they sieze if they're not immersed in fuel enough ? i.e. if I only fill the tank half way ?
Tom
Tom > Would it be worth you enquiring about an uprated fuel pump? If you intend to tune the car you may need one and now is definetely a good time.
Also, I bet an uprated Bosch or whatever make would be cheaper than the Nissan original.
Can anyone jump in here with part numbers for a fuel pump to help Tom?
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MANUAL 95N/S14
Pearlescent Red
OBX Short Shifter
PDM Front Strut Bar
K&N Induction Filter
Private Plate
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David_S14
24-09-2001, 17:12
I went for the HKS fuel pump (1407-RN022). It comes with the complete cradle and filter as well as an in tank pressure regulator. Matt_S got hold of it for me and it was about £210. It took about an hour to do.
I would get an uprated pump or get one from a scrappy either way you'll save money.
Norris do a group "a" for £176 inc http://web.norrisdesigns.com/product_detail.asp?ccode=24&id=2&cid=144 .
Also do a search for fuel pumps on the forums as there were loads of part numbers quoted.
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David
"Purplish Blue Pearl" 1995 S14
K&N,Mongoose,HKS Fuel pump, Blitz FATT-S,Racelogic Adj. Traction Control & Tree.
[This message has been edited by David_S14 (edited 24-09-2001).]
I have an ND group "a" fuel pump which seems highly effective ie. 15mpg!
Woah ! 15mpg, is that worst case or average ?
It's a bit of a shame I rely on my car so much every day to get me to work etc... or I wouldn't mind it off the road for a while.
I went and ordered the nissan bit first thing on monday morning so I could get something through as quick as I could, so unfortunately it's too late http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/frown.gif
What should the standard fuel pump be good for out of interest ? Is the fuel pump a limitting factor rather than the injector rail pressure regulator then ?
Tom
I'm not going to answer your question because I am the mickey mouse of auto mechanics not knowing my arse from a fuel pump however in Max Power when they featured a 1000 BHp Skyline the guys who built it (Top Secret) said they had to install 3 fuel pumps to make sure there was enough fuel to match the air intake from the massive turbo's.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is that maybe an uprated fuel pump could be an essential part of a performance improvment but better minds than mine can tell you what order these things should be done in.
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Grant Smith
Blue T 'reg' Manual
The fuel injectors will probably need replacing at around 350bhp and then the fuel pump shortly after.
After that you'll be getting approx' BA (Bugger all) MPG http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
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MANUAL 95N/S14
Pearlescent Red
OBX Short Shifter
PDM Front Strut Bar
K&N Induction Filter
Private Plate
http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/rides/beans14/nissan2m1small.jpg
ICQ 124584354
Bean,
350bhp eh ? Probably safe for a while then I reckon http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif Still haven't fixed my bumper yet, need new tyres, fuel pump gone.... where does my money go ? Beer ? Kebabs ? Chinese takeaways ?
Worked out the little bugger must have pumped about 6000 gallons of petrol before it died - not bad going I suppose.
Tom
Originally posted by Tom_S14:
Bean,
350bhp eh ? Probably safe for a while then I reckon http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif Still haven't fixed my bumper yet, need new tyres, fuel pump gone.... where does my money go ? Beer ? Kebabs ? Chinese takeaways ?
Worked out the little bugger must have pumped about 6000 gallons of petrol before it died - not bad going I suppose.
Tom
I'm only going by what the ND catalogue says so please don't take my ramblings to be gospel.
Most people don't understand or believe a word a say, including me. Of course, this could be down to my appreciation of fine malt whiskies and mind blowing chemicals? (alegedly) http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
What were we talking about again? I've just drank a bottle of wine and I'm off to play Squash in 30mins, should be fun http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif Pub after!!!!!!!!!! ra ra ra ra ra CLUB.
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MANUAL 95N/S14
Pearlescent Red
OBX Short Shifter
PDM Front Strut Bar
K&N Induction Filter
Private Plate
http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/rides/beans14/nissan2m1small.jpg
ICQ 124584354
I'm worried you drink too much. Course, you wouldn't catch a fine upstanding citizen like me getting pissed as a bastard http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
Fuel pump fixed. Not that pleasant with ya forearm down the petrol tank in the pouring rain trying to put the new one back in, but not exactly a difficult job. Cheers for your help. The blunt chisel+hammer worked a treat http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif
Tom
[This message has been edited by Tom_S14 (edited 27-09-2001).]
Sorry, kind of went off on one the other night.
Squash was interesting, normally it's natural instinct to put your hands out when you're about to fall, not when your drunk, you just use your face!!! http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
You can never drink enough, I digress.
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(MANUAL) 95N/S14
AL0G Red
OBX Short Shifter, PDM Strut Bar, K&N Filter, Private Plate
http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/rides/beans14/nissan2m1small.jpg
ICQ 124584354
Are you going to the rolling road thingy in Bristol. I want to see that quick shifter and strut brace you've got.
Tom
Yes, I'm going to the Rolling Road in Bristol . Not sure if I'll be on the rollers because I can't afford the new exhaust at the moment.
Are you coming along? It would nice to put a name to a face after months of internet correspondence.
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(MANUAL) 95N/S14
AL0G Red
OBX Short Shifter, PDM Strut Bar, K&N Filter, Private Plate
http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/rides/beans14/nissan2m1small.jpg
ICQ 124584354
Yeah, I'll be there. Always like to have a power curve for my car. Just don't feel complete without one, if only I was joking http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif
Fingers crossed nothing else breaks, falls off or anything before then. Are you going to get a rear strut brace too then ?
Tom
I'm trying to get hold of one but the place I got the front brace from doesn't do the rears yet.
Not sure what make the front one is or I'd try and get it from elsewhere.
Have you bought any more bits for your car recently? I've just ordered an Ecotek Valve.
What did you pay for your exhaust?
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(MANUAL) 95N/S14
AL0G Red
OBX Short Shifter, PDM Strut Bar, K&N Filter, Private Plate
http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/rides/beans14/nissan2m1small.jpg
ICQ 124584354
The exhaust came to around 500 quid.. bit more I think, about 550. He was very flexible about paying though. I split it over 2 months.
I was planning to buy some stuff for the car, but then this lamp post came along and hit me... then my fuel pump went... and also my new landlord wanted half a year's rent up front !?£$%^ Jeeeez.
I think what I might do is sort out the suspension. I always want to go faster in a straight line, no amount of power would be enough, but I want better cornering.
Tom
geoff_s14
27-09-2001, 16:23
Originally posted by BeanS14:
Are you coming along? It would nice to put a name to a face after months of internet correspondence.
Only someone who hasn't seen Tom's face would think this experience might be 'nice'. http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
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Geoff
Emerald S14, heavily modified by shopping trolleys.
http://www.animfactory.com/animations/transportation/cars/mirror_md_clr.gif
http://www.mpz.co.uk/cwm/ups/kamikaze/smilie_groupflip2.gif
geoff_s14
27-09-2001, 16:24
Only joking Tom. http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif
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Geoff
Emerald S14, heavily modified by shopping trolleys.
http://www.animfactory.com/animations/transportation/cars/mirror_md_clr.gif
http://www.mpz.co.uk/cwm/ups/kamikaze/smilie_groupflip2.gif
ooh, that's nasty!
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(MANUAL) 95N/S14
AL0G Red
OBX Short Shifter, PDM Strut Bar, K&N Filter, Private Plate
http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/rides/beans14/nissan2m1small.jpg
ICQ 124584354
geoff_s14
27-09-2001, 16:48
You wait and see......
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Geoff
Emerald S14, heavily modified by shopping trolleys.
http://www.animfactory.com/animations/transportation/cars/mirror_md_clr.gif
http://www.mpz.co.uk/cwm/ups/kamikaze/smilie_groupflip2.gif
you're only jealous.
Are you going to this rolling road thing geoff ?
Tom
Originally posted by Tom_S14:
you're only jealous.
Are you going to this rolling road thing geoff ?
Tom
I think he's having his facial warts removed first http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
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(MANUAL) 95N/S14
AL0G Red
OBX Short Shifter, PDM Strut Bar, K&N Filter, Private Plate
http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/rides/beans14/nissan2m1small.jpg
ICQ 124584354
geoff_s14
28-09-2001, 12:29
Originally posted by BeanS14:
I think he's having his facial warts removed first http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
Not yet, my gental ones take priority and the waiting list is massive.
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Geoff
Emerald S14, heavily modified by shopping trolleys.
http://www.animfactory.com/animations/transportation/cars/mirror_md_clr.gif
http://www.mpz.co.uk/cwm/ups/kamikaze/smilie_groupflip2.gif
Ooooh, nasty. I saw a programme on the TV the other night, all about them... Apparently everyone in Ibiza has got 'em, and they look nasty, it's a wonder how some people can even walk like that. Get yourself a Merkin, no-one will ever know http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
Tom
geoff_s14
28-09-2001, 13:14
Tom,
What's a Merkin?
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Geoff
Emerald S14, heavily modified by shopping trolleys.
http://www.animfactory.com/animations/transportation/cars/mirror_md_clr.gif
http://www.mpz.co.uk/cwm/ups/kamikaze/smilie_groupflip2.gif
Originally posted by geoff_s14:
Tom,
What's a Merkin?
It's a sort of wig, the Victorians used to wear them.
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(MANUAL) 95N/S14
AL0G Red
OBX Short Shifter, PDM Strut Bar, K&N Filter, Private Plate
http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/rides/beans14/nissan2m1small.jpg
ICQ 124584354
Yes, that's right, it's a sort of wig the victorians used to cover up genital warts.
One frequently uses the word merkin in substitute for firkin. One might go down the foxy merkin for a pint for example.
So are you going to the rolling road then geoff ? (with or without your merkin)
Tom
geoff_s14
28-09-2001, 15:50
I don't think I can make it. It's the other side of the world for me.
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Geoff
Emerald S14, heavily modified by shopping trolleys.
http://www.animfactory.com/animations/transportation/cars/mirror_md_clr.gif
http://www.mpz.co.uk/cwm/ups/kamikaze/smilie_groupflip2.gif
geoff_s14
28-09-2001, 17:44
Anyways, how come you guys know so much about prosthetic pubes?
I don't remember covering that at school.
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Geoff
Emerald S14, heavily modified by shopping trolleys.
http://www.animfactory.com/animations/transportation/cars/mirror_md_clr.gif
http://www.mpz.co.uk/cwm/ups/kamikaze/smilie_groupflip2.gif
You must have missed out on the national curriculum Geoff. Merkins are now a core part of the syllabus http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif Every man should be able to hold his head high and know the truth about the Merkin.
Leeds to bristol... half hour mate http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif Would be nice to get a few S14s there - but of superior engineering and all that.
Tom
SteveSadler
01-10-2001, 15:55
S14 boyzfor fuel pump info see my previous posts in S13 tekkie section.
Or searh for posts by me and you find everything u need to know.
I'm glad that everyone has saved cash from this
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Bayside Blue S13.
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15.4 @ 98mph - North Wield Air Strip
Flywheel Figure 213bhp/209Ib ft @ 5375RPM
Power at the Wheels 166bhp
(as of 15/6/01 @ Power & Engineering)
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