Saab FMIC installed today!!

[Jez]

Finally got my Saab FMIC installed today.

Its great - not sure how much power my engine is producing now but it pulls much harder at high revs. Boost used to drop from about 1 bar at 4000 rpm to about .5 bar at 6500 rpm. Now it only drops to about .8 - probably due to my std. T25 turbo.

If anyone wants pics I can mail them - took photos of all the steps involved.

Cheers for all the advise everyone gave me!

Thanks again
Jez

[kerfumph]

Please jez, doin' a conversion soon myself.

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Graham
90' s13
Trust me, I know everything.

[Jez]

Just mailed you pics and a brief explaination.

It's worth it. Took me a while to sort everything out, and im still not 100% pleased with the job I did but I spose it'll keep me busy for a few more weekends.

I think I need a better fuel pump - the engine pinks a bit up near the red line - running a bit lean - might just retard the ignition a bit for now though or run super unleaded...

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[Dave_the_B]

Nice one Jez.

A tank of Super unleaded should sort your pinking out.

With the boost turned up Super should really be used all the time.

Dave



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Grey S13
T28
Evo 6 IC
266bhp @ 16psi

[Jez]

Yeah you're right - I think I could be underfueling a bit too. Going to get the bosch fuel pump Steve Sadler recommended in a thread a while ago.

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Mongoose
K&N
Saab FMIC
1 bar boost
Koni adj. dampers & stiffer springs
300ZX TT 4 pot brakes
Front strut brace

[Geof_S13]

Email me the pics when you get the chance, were the stainless pipes the right length in the end?. I think the nuclear business can spare me an off cut or two!
I think I'll stick with std colour hoses though, I'm to old to wait as long as you did!
I'm hoping the bigeer FMIC will stop my pinking at 15 PSI and 12.5 BTDC it still pinks, any thoughts?

[Jez]

I reckon you need a new fuel pump like me - yours with 150k odd on it must be getting a bit worn...

Pics in the (virtual) post...

[Geof_S13]

You could well be right. I wonder how easy it would be to measure the pressure?. I have changed the filter and that mad no difference, how about fitting and adjustable regulator. I'v got to refuel tomorow so may fill with super to see if that makes a difference, I've turned the boost down to 15 PSI and really don't want to retard the ignition further as it so good to drive at the moment.

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90 S13 off white
ND Stage 1 EPROM
ND Actuator@ 15 PSI
Mongoose Zorst and K&N
Now smoking turbo

[Dave_the_B]

Put a uprated fuel pump in about three weeks ago and the difference is brillant. It pull's a lot harder mid range and the off boost performance is now super smooth.

Go for it guys

Dave

PS I'm running at 20 degs BTDC with no probs
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Grey S13
T28
Evo 6 IC
266bhp @ 16psi

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[Jez]

All I've heard it good news about uprated fuel pumps.

Has it increased your fuel consumption much? Which pump did you go for, Dave?

Im currently running 18 DBTDC with normal unleaded

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[Geof_S13]

Dave
Which pump did you go for in the end?

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90 S13 off white
ND Stage 1 EPROM
ND Actuator@ 15 PSI
Mongoose Zorst and K&N
Now smoking turbo

[Geof_S13]

Atlast I'm a flame spitter!!

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90 S13 off white
ND Stage 1 EPROM
ND Actuator@ 15 PSI
Mongoose Zorst and K&N
Now smoking turbo

[Paul_S13]

Nice one mate http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif, its not hard is it. I went for an escort cossie pump, it cost £70 and fitted perfectly, and it also fuels perfectly.


Paul_s13

Saab intercooler pioneer http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Dave_the_B]

Jez,
First thing is to get some Super unleaded in before you do some damage.Rant out of the way lets talk fuel pumps......
Go to 'Bosch Part No. for FUEL PUMPS' on page three of the Technical - S13 board for all the info you will ever need.
I got my pump from a local Bosch agent for £80 inc VAT
To fit it you will have to modify the pump hanger i.e. saw the bottom off of it and zip tie the new pump in position.Also you will need some elec crimp connecty things for the wires,and some little nuts to fix the elec crimpy things to the pump.
Carefull of the big rubber washer on top of the tank,it likes to expand and not seal when you put it all back together...I got one from Nissan for £8, It is the same as a late Sunny one
Don't be alarmed at the noise the pump makes on tick over it is normal say the Bosch man...grinding wizzing sucking ect

Took two hours start to finish


Dave

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Grey S13
T28
Evo 6 IC
266bhp @ 16psi

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[Paul_S13]

The cossie pump tookme 30 minutes http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/tongue.gif

[Dave_the_B]

Prove it!!!

Handbags at twenty paces http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif

Anyway,right ,I had dinner during that two hours and my Mum says if you don't count that I could easy be,like ,one hour.....ish and that also includes a trip to Halfords for stuff and I saw a bloke I know down there and once I had cornered him and stopped him from running out of the shop I spoke to him...for a bit,anyway he said something about his house being on fire and to leave him alone and stop scaring his kids so I came home...so see.... it might not have been two hours

Bet cossie pumps aren't as LOUD as Bosch ones....ner ner and ner

Dave http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Grey S13
T28
Evo 6 IC
266bhp @ 16psi

[Geof_S13]

Jez
Gotta make a decision Cossie or Bosch? Ford one sounds attractive and easy to get hold of and fit.
I'll deff replace the seal on the tank when I change it though.

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90 S13 off white
ND Stage 1 EPROM
ND Actuator@ 15 PSI
Mongoose Zorst and K&N
Now smoking turbo

[Jez]

read this thread: http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000015.html

Im going to get the bosch one I think.

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Red S13
Mongoose
K&N
Saab FMIC
1 bar boost
Koni adj. dampers & stiffer springs
300ZX TT 4 pot brakes
Front strut brace

[Paul_S13]

The cossie pump is quite quiet, thats good http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif when I first heard thr group A pump in Nathans car I said WTF is that 'orrible noise! http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/eek.gif

[Jez]

Bah! Don't know which one to go for now...

BTW: Pics are now available at http://www.geocities.com/jhorsham

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[mambastu]

Chaps,
I have a group A pump in mine and it makes a horrendous fecking noise. Sounds like a wasp nest in the boot ! Any way of quietening them down ? I presume its vibration being passed into the body so wrapping it in something soft might do it.....(toffee, puppy etc http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif)



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Cheers

Stu

[Geof_S13]

Jez
The Ford one seems my choice as it's quieter
and easy to get hold of.

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90 S13 off white
ND Stage 1 EPROM
ND Actuator@ 15 PSI
Mongoose Zorst and K&N
Now smoking turbo

[Jez]

I'm thinking the same now geof.
Where can I get one?

Retarded ignition "a bit" and the pinking has stopped. Phew - need pump asap!!

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Red S13
Mongoose
K&N
Saab FMIC
1 bar boost
Koni adj. dampers & stiffer springs
300ZX TT 4 pot brakes
Front strut brace

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[Geof_S13]

I'm still pinking a tad, wot about fuel parts UK? or perish the thought Ford!!
I'm going to ring around Monday AM when I should be working, I'll let you know how I get on.

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90 S13 off white
ND Stage 1 EPROM
ND Actuator@ 15 PSI
Mongoose Zorst and K&N
Now smoking turbo

[Dave_the_B]

If you HAVE to get a cossie pump go to Fuel Parts as I was quoted £235+vat for one at Ford!!!!!

Dave

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Grey S13
T28
Evo 6 IC
266bhp @ 16psi

[Paul_S13]

you can get 'em from http://www.mifordparts.co.uk/

[Dave_the_B]

Jez,
Just had a look at your piccy's.

Nice job m8 http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif

How did you secure the IC at the top?

Dave

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Grey S13
T28
Evo 6 IC
266bhp @ 16psi

[Jez]

Cheers Dave!

With regards to the top mounts of the IC... well... um... I didn't fix it at all. It's held there by the hoses. The bottom is bolted to the chassis and rests on an old bicycle inner tube...

Still needs finishing off.

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Red S13
Mongoose
K&N
Saab FMIC
1 bar boost
Koni adj. dampers & stiffer springs
300ZX TT 4 pot brakes
Front strut brace

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[Paul_S13]

Same here, the hoses hold it in place, so I haven't made any brackets for mine as yet, but because I'm a lazy bastard I probably never will http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Black S13 (just)
235Bhp @ 5600rpm (maybe)
Saab intercooler
Water leak
overheating
no money
p*ssed off
But I do have a furking huge exhast and lots of noise!
http://www.mpz.co.uk/cwm/contrib/blackeye/2gunsfiring_v1.gif

[Jeffers_S13]

Great job Jez, pics are excellent, will come in very useful when I get round to fitting one.

[SteveSadler]

Jez,

you should run the CA18DET on Super all the time, especially with high boost (14psi plus)



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Bayside Blue S13.
Janspeed&D-Cat Pipe/Pace FMIC/BMC F1 Filter/Standard T25 @ 15psi
15.4 @ 98mph - North Wield Air Strip
Flywheel Figure 213bhp/209Ib ft @ 5375RPM
Power at the Wheels 166bhp
(as of 15/6/01 @ Power & Engineering)
SE Phase 2 Chip now fitted & S14 T28 awaiting fitting. :)

[Jez]

Yeah - I know I should.
I usually have the boost at about 0.9 bar, roughly 13 - 14 psi.
I always use super on trackdays.

[Paul_S13]

Nah you want to run 18psi with super unleaded all the time http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Jez]

I'd love to, but dont think my little T25 would last long...

[Richy_Boy]

Well im all confused now.. Whats that 'T' piece you made? do I need this if no AC? : \


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Rich

180 to 210 BHP @???? rpm
S13 J reg Graphite Grey - ND200, Koni Adj., 17" wheelz, dropped. Broken.

[Jez]

The tee piece is for the air supply to the idling valve.

If you look on a std. S13 theres a small pipe coming off the top black plastic tube just before the hose to the throttle. The tee is for that pipe.

[Jeffers_S13]

Only on this forum would there be a pic showing a fantastic sunny day, a sunbed and an old Saab intercooler sprawled on it instead of some hot totty ! !

(check out pic1)

James

[Jez]

wondered how long it'd be before someone mentioned that...

had to move my misses off to take the pic :-)

[Migrane]

Jez,

Any chance you can email me those pics too, with a brief explanation of what to do?

If I can get the bits at a reasonable price and the work I can do myself, I can prolly do the whol job without too much of an ear bashing from the missus http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/wink.gif

Nath.

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Burgundy '91 S13
15psi on std T25 & IC
Full Scorpion System
K&N Filter
16in Vablrem's
179bhp@wheels @13psi

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[Jez]

All the pics and a brief explaination are here: http://www.geocities.com/jhorsham

Cheers
Jez

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Red S13
Mongoose, K&N, Saab FMIC, 1 bar boost, Koni adj. dampers & stiffer springs, 300ZX TT 4 pot brakes and front strut brace

[Avinitlarge]

Got mine today http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif