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Background . . . .Before Xmas I had decided it was time to replace some of the old suspension bushes and my KYB dampers with some nice new poly bushes and Nismo S-tune suspension, so I gathered these bits together. Then about 6 weeks ago my mate and I (stuffing) decided we needed a little project to keep us out of mischief for the summer and came up with the idea of RB'ing my 14a.
For those that are interested, the engine I have is an RB25det series 2 with a whopping 25k miles on the clock :D I will be using Top Hat Performance engine mounts and retaining the 14 crossmember. The prop and downpipe will prob be custom jobbies but havent 100% decided as yet which routes to go down. For the radiator have a number of options to explore but will be ditching the viscour fan in favour of electric pusher style ones. Power wise it will be pretty standard to begin with - just basic breathing mods and a very small increase in boost.
After lots of head scratching and weeks of badgering people alot via pm/email esp Jeffer_S13 @ pps :notworthy i finally picked up the RB weekend before last and began the project.
As noobs and never done anything similar to this, the task is quite daunting but we managed to get the engine out of the 14 at a leisurely pace in less than 7 hours, including many tea breaks, which I dont think is too bad :)
This bank holiday monday in the sun the SR was packed up and sent off to its new home. Which was a very strange experience as I have driven 40k miles with that engine so its the end of an era or a start of a new one :D We also stripped the entire loom from the front of the car which meant removing the dash etc etc.
Now there are a few photos, but the official photographer (stuffing :rolleyes:) hasnt uploaded them yet!!!! :whip:
I am also using this opportunity to attend to some minor rust issues I have found during the strip of the car :cry: they arent major but better to deal with them now.
So at this point sadly we are waiting for stuffing to get his arse in gear ;):sleep:
teh200sx
06-05-2008, 12:22
Brilliant, i will be watching this project with much interest! I'm selling my spare engine to get the last of my funds together to do exactly this.
Good luck :thumbs:
why is it everyone does em at the same time :wack:
Nice one buddy, good luck with it, will be interesting to see what u do :nod:
Sounds sweet. I really enjoy seeing projects with people doing it for the first time. Makes me have hope to do it myself in the future.
Stuffing
06-05-2008, 18:48
So, first up, Friday before last we had to put the engine hoist together... Now you'd have thought this would be simple, but we managed to take a good 2 hours over it :rolleyes:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00057.jpg
Unfortunately, due to me being ill at the time (and rather forgetful all the time), I neglected to take any pictures of us collecting the engine, but after successfully removing it from my mate's van:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00058.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00059.jpg
Now for a couple of shots before we got cracking on the car:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00061.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00063.jpg
A couple of hours later it looked something like this:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00064.jpg
A little bit of head scratching later we got to here:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00067.jpg
Then some more head scratching and Kev almost smacking himself in the face with the down pipe:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00068.jpg
At which point we decided to leave it for the evening... we came back to find that fairies had magically removed the engine from the bay and safely put it to one sid in my garage, so Kev did this:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00069.jpg
Actually, we carried on until we got the engine out that evening, but decided we were both far too tired to take any photo's by the time we finished..:rolleyes: It was a fairly simple job, I think probably one thing we would have done differently though was to intentionally drop the gear box oil, rather than having a conversation something along the lines of:
Kev: erm, the gearbox is dripping a little now the prop's coming out?
Stuff: Do you need a bucket?
Kev: erm, we kind of have a bit of a puddle...
:wack:
So, SR20's aren't that much smaller than RB25's - surely?
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00070.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00071.jpg
That pretty much concludes last weekend's work...
Stuffing
06-05-2008, 18:51
This weekend's work pretty much involved removing the dash and Kev putting it on his head:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00078.jpg
Then discovering ther was quite alot of stuff to remove after the dash was out:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00079.jpg
But we managed to get the loom removed:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00080.jpg
We also removed the majority of the sound deadening from behind the dash and removed most of the ancillary items from the engine bay... I believe Kev has a few pic's of the empty engine bay, if not, I'll take some more over the weekend! :thumbs:
Actual_Ben_Taylor
06-05-2008, 21:01
You went a bit mad with that loom!
Good effort so far :)
Almost clear engine bay :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAG0010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAG0013.jpg
You can see on this one, one of the areas of rust that needs a little attention :cry: I will be stripping the engine bay to clean up the other little patchs and also checking all the wheel arches as well as the underneath.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAG0011.jpg
You went a bit mad with that loom!
Good effort so far :)
:nod: oh yes. The chap doing the wiring said it would be easier to take out everything and after seeing it all im inclined to agree. Im not keeping the nats system so a fair amount of wiring was being removed anyway.
looking good so far well done mate.:thumbs:
Wow, good job so far Kev! Can't wait to get a ride in it when its done!
Wow, good job so far Kev! Can't wait to get a ride in it when its done!
Me either :D
Just seen your selling the goose. What are you going to do exhaust wise?
Just seen your selling the goose. What are you going to do exhaust wise?
Havent 100% decided, I do fancy something a chunk louder so probably going for an ebay special, Apexi N1 dual knock off until my ears bleed or I start feeling old again and decide to go for a quiet one :wack:
The N1 dual replicas aren't too loud from what I've heard, so could be a good choice! I'd like one, but don't think it'll fit out the back of my kit
Mr Bizzle
07-05-2008, 12:36
Looks good mate!
Out of interest, if your building an RB25 for fast road use, grab a cuppah and take an hour or so to read through this thread off skylines australia.
Im guessing your probably not planning on re-freshing the engine if it's only done a couple of thousand miles, but popping the head off and fitting a restrictor + drain is a real winner if you ask me :) It's prooven technology now. Will give you the option of fitting a metal head gasket too :)
:thumbs:
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Oil-Control-Rb-s-Circui-t110680.html
or a condensed version will all the relivant info that i put up on driftworks...
http://www.driftworks.com/forum/technical/55603-rb-oiling-issues-why-do-rbs-blow-up-answers-here.html
dougal200
07-05-2008, 20:25
good effort on the wiring loom. i did the same a few weeks ago but i tackled it differently. i took the fuse box apart (it all clips together) and posted back through the bulkhead. i need to remove the dash so i guess i should have done it your way.
does it all unplug under the dash as i still have it conected apart from the ecu wires on the ns?
looks like your rust is minimal, even petrol has more on the seam
here is what mine looks like
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/dougal200/DSCN1244.jpg:eek:
Stuffing
08-05-2008, 12:23
We couldn't figure out how to get the fuse box apart :wack: We kept looking at it and thinking that there must be a plug somewhere, but we really couldn't find it.
The only bit of wiring that caused a problem was the Nats stuff, aside from that, the majority of it unclipped and came apart really easily :)
We haven't stripped off any of the seam sealer as yet, we're pretty much total noobs when it comes to bodywork... :(
For the love of god while the bay is clear spray it to match the car. It might cost a couple of hundred quid if you get it done properly but mate, it'll make all the difference!
Going to be wicked mate, going to follow this topic alot :D
dougal200
08-05-2008, 16:02
there aint a plug really, the fuse box brakes down into seperate sections which all clip together and are just small enough to pass through the wing and the bulkhead.
keep up the good work. if there are any bits you get stuck on in dissassembly i am at about the same point as you so might be able to help. ive got a 1uz going back in (lexus v8) so it will interesting to see how our two projects go side by side.:thumbs:
Stuffing
08-05-2008, 18:27
For the love of god while the bay is clear spray it to match the car. It might cost a couple of hundred quid if you get it done properly but mate, it'll make all the difference!
I refuse to let him spray the engine bay pink! :wack:
Dougal, cheers mate, that may well come in useful! :thumbs:
I refuse to let him spray the engine bay pink! :wack:
Dougal, cheers mate, that may well come in useful! :thumbs:
OI :whip:
Piman - the engine bay will be cleaned up the areas that need attention will be attended to and then the bay will be hammerited black i reckon.
Looks good mate!
Out of interest, if your building an RB25 for fast road use, grab a cuppah and take an hour or so to read through this thread off skylines australia.
Im guessing your probably not planning on re-freshing the engine if it's only done a couple of thousand miles, but popping the head off and fitting a restrictor + drain is a real winner if you ask me :) It's prooven technology now. Will give you the option of fitting a metal head gasket too :)
:thumbs:
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Oil-Control-Rb-s-Circui-t110680.html
or a condensed version will all the relivant info that i put up on driftworks...
http://www.driftworks.com/forum/technical/55603-rb-oiling-issues-why-do-rbs-blow-up-answers-here.html
Cheers for that :thumbs: I have scan read through it and it does look like something I need to think about, but also isnt something I would be too confident about doing myself :( That article will prompt me to do quite a bit or additional research :notworthy
Nice work chaps!
Good to see this coming together! You can remove the passenger airbag at the same time now mate, its all about the weight saving! ;)
BTW I have a small washer bottle and pump if things are a bit tight in the engine bay, just gimme a shout!
You want me to bring the Nismo's over on Saturday/Sunday? Popping over to Wyton to set the ignition timing and fit the Blitz ECU so I'll be over that way. PLus I can offer you handy bits of advice and encouragement :whip:
Nice work chaps!
Good to see this coming together! You can remove the passenger airbag at the same time now mate, its all about the weight saving! ;)
BTW I have a small washer bottle and pump if things are a bit tight in the engine bay, just gimme a shout!
You want me to bring the Nismo's over on Saturday/Sunday? Popping over to Wyton to set the ignition timing and fit the Blitz ECU so I'll be over that way. PLus I can offer you handy bits of advice and encouragement :whip:
Hell yeah the airbag is going in the bin :nod: but realised I left the T50 security torx at yours :annoyed:
Top work on the washer bottle :thumbs:
hmmm may need to pop across to press out the eleventy million bushes and ball joints I seem to have :rolleyes:
Stuffing
10-05-2008, 21:35
Quick update containing today's efforts for all you lucky people! :)
I'm going to start this off with a warning for all noobs:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00081.jpg
This photo is evidence that noobish people should not use trolley jacks, and definately shouldn't use them in the wrong place! :rolleyes: Mostly because it means that when further noobs come to try and remove the front wings, it becomes very difficult... :cry:
The bolts on both sides had to be drilled out, but hey, it's not the end of the world!
So, we set about degreasing the engine bay, mostly to get things cleaned up and to try and find out how bad the rust issues really are. After we had the engine bay fairly clean (please note not immaculate, but looking a darn site betterer!), I managed to persuade Kev that removing his battery tray was a good idea! In hind sight I should have taken some action shots as this was his first time using a grinder :eek: All went well aside from missing a few spot welds and having to resort to a chissel...
However, we were met by this:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00082.jpg
We plan to basically remove a big square section and weld a plate in place. As we have no idea where the FMIC pipe work will demand a hole, we'll just grind a hole out when the time comes. :)
So, while Kev was pulling the ARB off (and doing other things, possibly wire brushing and painting stuff, maybe crying about rust :wack: ), I was doing this:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00088.jpg
Obviously that involved me first removing what remained of the interior and the carpet...
Stuffing
10-05-2008, 21:35
So here are the pic's of the area's that require some attention:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00083.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00084.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00085.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00086.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00087.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00089.jpg
To be fair most of them don't look that bad - however we haven't taken off any of the seam sealant, so we have no idea what it's going to be like underneath... If anyone has any helpful tips for removing seam sealant, then they would be very much appreciate - this is a job neither of us have done before!
We left the car this evening looking a little like this:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00090.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00091.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00092.jpg
:thumbs:
Nice work chaps! How hard was the sound deadening to remove with the chisel Stuffing?
Who is doing the welding and seem welding? Mine needs doing next ;-)
I may get a chance to pop over tomorrow, unfortunately the Blitz didn't arrive so clocking bracket, ECU and bush pressing at Wyton next weekend?
Hey Guys,
Some interesting stuff going on here, I will be watching this one :nod:
Might be worth giving Pete (Petrol) a shout with regard to rust removal and seam sealer removal, he is in the process of sorting it right now..
Stuffing
10-05-2008, 22:11
Baz, it wasn't too bad mate... I think today's heat really helped, I got maybe 60% of the sound deadening out in maybe 2.5 hours. Kev's sister's boyfriend is doing the welding I believe, he may be up for doing some other bits also, but it's best to talk to Kev about that!
I don't think Kev's about next weekend, but I'll get him to leave the arms with me that need the bits pressing out, that way I can pop down and give you guys a hand/press the bits out... Did Ian manage to get his suspension fitted?
Crazy, I totally forgot about Petrol's resto threads, it might be an idea to have a wade through them! :) cheers mate!
Nice one mate, good to hear!
What are you two up to tomorrow/today? Was planning a BBQ if you are over MK way....
I'll be watching this thread:thumbs: That sill was bad mate, i hate jacking up my car.
I'll be watching this thread:thumbs: That sill was bad mate, i hate jacking up my car.
it makes an amazing difference when you jack it up by the correct bits :wack: The other sill isnt so bad, most of the damage on that side was done a few years ago when fitting tubby gaskets.
i have read some bits of petrols threads hence buying some por15 :thumbs: which looks kinda good to :eek: but note to self and anyone using it dont under any circumstances let it get on your skin or anything that you dont want it permenantly attached to it almost never comes off :cry: I spend 20mins with a scrubbing brush until my arm was read raw then gave up when only half was removed
This is progressing really nicely mate
Come on dudes, what did you get done today?????
Stuffing
11-05-2008, 21:10
Unfortunately there's no update for today, we did make a fair bit of progress, but the pics and info will have to wait until next week! ;)
Today was a late start cos i didnt get out of bed til late Stuffing removed the bulk of the sound deadening and only the residue is left.
I stripped the driver side wheel arch of all the seam sealer and all the stone chip stuff. I manged to remove almost all the rust with a wire wheel :D then using the POR15 managed to degrease, prime (metal ready) and the first cost of the paint on it
Also forgot to mention I picked up some mckinney engine mounts, driveshaft, downpipe and FMIC piping from armracing :D :thumbs: this week (photos to come)
Use petrol to remove the last of the sound deadening residue :nod:
Or auto Glymm tar remover, it removes everything from everything!
Stuffing, pull your finger out and get the pictures on!
Or auto Glymm tar remover, it removes everything from everything!
Stuffing, pull your finger out and get the pictures on!
hahaha no chance mate, even the tin says once dried on your skin the only thing that will remove it is time!
a slight update for everyone - I finally spoke to my insurance company about the conversion and the premium has gone up by an earth shattering £34.02 ;)
i wish i could do this conversion :( all i need is know how space to do it and errrr an rb25 to put in my car lol. nice project guys :sxoc:
Stuffing
13-05-2008, 12:55
all i need is know how space to do it and errrr an rb25 to put in my car lol. nice project guys :sxoc:
Well we managed 1 out of 3... We have the RB25 :wack:
lol i'd love to be able to do it but the only space i have available is my missus parent landscaped garden:wack: i could manage the engine swap with maybe a lil help from some friends but its the wireing loom that puts me right off :(
Where did you get the engine and gear box mounts by the way? :thumbs:
Where did you get the engine and gear box mounts by the way? :thumbs:
I got them second hand (altho brand new) from here. But as it so happens I am expecting delivery of some Top Hat engine mounts in the next few days which i will be selling ;) i ordered these a few weeks ago but since then the Mckinney ones came up and I couldnt refuse them :)
Did you go for that exhaust mate?
Did you go for that exhaust mate?
;) :nod:
pm me how much you want for them :thumbs: how hard is the wiring, any step by step guides?? i really want to do this conversion but i can bolt things together well enough its just the jungle of wire that scares me lol:sxoc:
pm me how much you want for them :thumbs: how hard is the wiring, any step by step guides?? i really want to do this conversion but i can bolt things together well enough its just the jungle of wire that scares me lol:sxoc:
Ill drop you a PM as soon as they have landed :thumbs: re the wiring just get someone else to do it like I am ;):D
Ill drop you a PM as soon as they have landed :thumbs: re the wiring just get someone else to do it like I am ;):D
spot on mate can i call dibbs on em then lol (!!stupid question alert!!) does the engine have to be out of the car to do the loom? lol
spot on mate can i call dibbs on em then lol (!!stupid question alert!!) does the engine have to be out of the car to do the loom? lol
I dont quite understand the question - i have sent my looms off so yes they were out of the car. There is loads of info out on the interweb but the wiring info made my brain melt :wack:
where did you send the looms too? i think i might just be worth me paying some one else to do the whole thing lol :(
where did you send the looms too? i think i might just be worth me paying some one else to do the whole thing lol :(
PM Nize from here :thumbs: top top bloke :notworthy he has given me loads of info re the wiring :thumbs: I feel much more confident about it all now :)
Good work :thumbs: If you intend to spray the POR 15 on I would be a bit careful of overspray. I have had to claybar my window sills after using 2K :D
Seam sealer comes off easy especially the Nissan stuff. I use a 6" steel ruler as a scraper.
armracing
17-05-2008, 19:37
Hi Kev L :thumbs:
Glad i could help out with the mounts etc.
Looks like your going well. Good luck with it and you will love the RB lump :smitten:
Silvia Surfer
17-05-2008, 20:00
Good stuff!
I'll be keeping an eye on this thread...
Good luck with the conversion guys, hope it works out.
Good work :thumbs: If you intend to spray the POR 15 on I would be a bit careful of overspray. I have had to claybar my window sills after using 2K :D
Seam sealer comes off easy especially the Nissan stuff. I use a 6" steel ruler as a scraper.
Cheers, :notworthy nah not intending to spry the por 15 as I am a liability with a brush and armed with a spray gun anything could happen :wack:
I used a combination of a stanley knife and a flat screw driver, but watching the bits fly everywhere when you use a wire wheel is quite entertaining but not very productive.
Hi Kev L :thumbs:
Glad i could help out with the mounts etc.
Looks like your going well. Good luck with it and you will love the RB lump :smitten:
Yeh, cheers fella I cant wait to fire it up :smitten:
OK a little update for this weekend.
First thing is some bad news :cry: I have been informed that stuffings parents will require the use of the garage as of the 1st week in June. the good news is this means the RB will be fitted by then :D and hopefully working lol
Due to the poor weather yesterday morning we were confined to the garage, I stripped all the front suspension of as most of it is being refreshed/changed. We had to help a couple of mates out with some Celica GT4s :rolleyes: for most of the afternoon but I did manage to remove the ball joints and bushes from the spare lower arms I have. My hint for anyone removing bushes is use a blow torch, it is effective and also strangely enjoyable (in a childish kinda way) and for ball joints just use a hammer :smash: :D
Today, I removed the stonechip stuff from the passenger wheel arch and got a good coat of POR15 on it, the rad support and most of the bits at the front of the engine bay and a second coat on the drivers side wheel arch. Thankfully after removing the seam sealer and stonechip there was very little rust to deal with :)
After another scan read of Petrol's thread this week :notworthy:Plug: I decided to get some Deox-C and gel. OMG that stuff is awesome. After the first go with the gel 90% of the rust I found around the seams in the engine bay has been removed. I have created a bath of it as well and currently the front lower arms and a number of various brackets are soaking overnight but it seems to be doing the job very well.
Stuffing has spent most of today inside the car, ill let him update on his bit :thumbs:
Last weekends photos consist of stuffing sitting down on the job
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAG0042.jpg
Most of the seam sealant gone and the rusty bits given a going over with a wire brush and Deox gel, in comparison the the before photos I am fairly please with how minor this looks, just needs a bit more of a clean up :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAG0050.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAG0051.jpg
Rare action shot of stuffing :notworthy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAG0057.jpg
This photo kinda gives you a bit of an idea of what 1 half of the garage looks like lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAG0061.jpg
Before shot of the front lower arms
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAG0059.jpg
Deox at work :) (well the bits dipped inside it anyway :wack:)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAG0060.jpg
Front part of the car had the POR15 treatment
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAG0056.jpg
Wheel arch photo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAG0047.jpg
and the other one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAG0054.jpg
Im so jealous of your overhaul! Its coming along nicely :D
Im so jealous of your overhaul! Its coming along nicely :D
I must admit Im quite chuffed, the only issue is we are not going to have enough time to do the complete job as i would like it. We are going to be able to do the front and some of the underneath but dropping the subframe etc and most of the suff at the rear is going to have to wait until garage space is cleared up again later in the summer.
It does mean the RB should be running sooner tho which is a good thing
Kev
dougal200
18-05-2008, 21:33
great work guys,
what is the por15 , a zink primer?
great work guys,
what is the por15 , a zink primer?
http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=9069&frostProductName=POR%2015%20Rust%20Prevention%20Pa int%20(473ml)&catID=&frostCat=&frostSubCat=&subCatID= :thumbs:
Jeffers_S13
20-05-2008, 13:31
Top work gyus :thumbs: will have to look at the pics when I get home, most seem to get blocked here :(
Ok small update from this weekend. Stuffing and I spent this weekend, wire wheeling and painting (again :rolleyes:) Stuffing managed to get all the sound deadening and residue from the passenger compartment and get a couple of coats of primer down.
I arranged for a friend of mine (read my sisters boyfriend - john) to come up and weld a new plate in the battery tray, pop a few plates over the rusty holes in the floor pan and run a bead round the seems of the front suspension turrets.
While John was kept busy with the welder :notworthy I painted up the front lower arms, bumper supports and the L shaped brakets that run to the rad support with por15 and hammerite, after they had spent a few days in the Deox bath :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/IMAGE_078.jpg
On sunday I Por15'd all the remaining bare metal and welds in the engine bay to give some protection and once that was dry gave the engine bay the first coat of hammerite.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/IMAGE_088.jpg
The wheel arches are now rust free and have had 2 coats of por15, stonechip stuff and hammerited (with waxoil) so finger crossed that combined with the arch liners this will protect the arches a bit.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/IMAGE_094.jpg
Today I topped up the hammerite in the engine bay and masked/papered up the windows ready for the interior to be sprayed.
This weekend I also managed to do some work on the RB lump :) although this constisted of Stuffing removing the spark plugs in an attempt to steal them for his 13 :whip: and removing the standard intake plenum for John to convert to a side feed.
Last week I also picked up the radiator and fans (cheers Potts85 :thumbs:) and exhaust (ta wutang200 :))
Wow, hi mate, your car's really gonna be veeerry nice! :)
The front end and under those arches look immaculate too... im gonna have to invest in some good metal prepping products I think. :)
Nice 1 mate... only just spotted your project thread, so I will be looking back to see how it progresses. :thumbs:
Cheers mate... hopefully next week you'll have a lovely fresh wiring loom to install in that immensly clean engine bay too. :thumbs:
This thread makes me want to do this conversion so much :)
I'm hoping to be gettin a new job today if i do i'll have those mounts off you mate :thumbs:
This thread makes me want to do this conversion so much :)
I'm hoping to be gettin a new job today if i do i'll have those mounts off you mate :thumbs:
Cool, I have all the necessary parts for sale (see link in my sig) :thumbs: drop me a PM if your still interested
Stuffing
31-05-2008, 23:49
A little bit of an overdue update for you guys :)
We'll start off going back a couple of weeks to the removal of Kev's bushes. We tried just about everything to get the bushes out short of burning them out and erm... Kinda might've resorted to burning them out...
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00102.jpg
Then Kev went a little rock and roll on us...
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00101.jpg
Which resulted in this happening for quite sometime
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00100.jpg
After a few occurrences of the centres being poked out while still on fire (swiftly followed by some hopping around trying to avoid it rolling towards you) and some incredibly stupid moments of "I'll just take this out of the vice.... OWWWWW!!!!" the bushes were successfully removed!
Oh, and on a side note, finally there is proof of Kev using an angles grinder :eek:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00103.jpg
So moving swiftly forward to last week, Kev had someone come up to do some welding on the car. He was absolutely awesome, welding a plate over where the battery tray was along with a 4 small plates within the cabin. The only photo's I could get (my camera was being a total gayer!) were of the welding done in the engine bay to sort out the rusty seams:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00106.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00107.jpg
This weekend we're trial mounting the engine and putting the car back in once piece, which we actually managed to get most of the way through today, however, I think we may have been missing a couple of bolts here and there...
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00115.jpg
oh, and the washer bag kit turned up... Although I was really disappointed about the dimunitive size of the box, so I took a photo - I should have put something else with it in hindsight to give it some scale, but hey, hindsights a bitch!
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00113.jpg
Coming along nicely fella,the bushes is not a job Im looking forward too!! Keep up the good work:thumbs:
Silvia Surfer
01-06-2008, 18:24
Then Kev went a little rock and roll on us...
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00101.jpg
Which resulted in this happening for quite sometime
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/stuffing_200/DSC00100.jpg
Rock n roll FTW!!:D:whip:
Sadly not much has happened in June - due to me working every hour god sent :(
But I did manage to make a hash of painting :( the interior needs a bit of work after i attacked it with some rattle cans, in my defence tho, it is quite dark in the car with all the windows papered up and in the garage :wack: Thankfully im feeling confident I can bribe Stuffing to fix it for me.
The front arms/suspension is fitted - all new ball joints and inner arm bushes with spangly Nismo S-Tunes :D just have the standad tie rod ends to fit now :)
I have been shopping as well:
Apexi N1 Exhaust
New Spark plugs, timing belt and accessory belts.
New take-off plate for my filter relocation and cooler kit
Bushes for all the rear arms, braided clutch line and steering rack bushes
Ali rad, silicon hoses, fan kit and controller
£180 worth of fluids from OPIE :eek:
Prosport Gauges on the way :)
Hopefully get my hands on some R32 GTR rims tomorrow :D
Fingers crossed there will be more after the weekend.
200SXBETTER
28-06-2008, 10:30
Im starting my project soon with my RB engine, Are you going to be posting any updates soon, Very cool progress hope it all goes well. Its scary to think I have to do this soon, just picked up my block going to fully rebuild engine first!!!!
Cheers Phill
Stuffing
28-06-2008, 11:04
We're waiting on the loom before we can really do anything else to the car... Fingers crossed it should be with Kev during next week so we can hit it again next weekend! :)
SuperMonkeyKong
15-07-2008, 13:46
Nothing happening at the moment then guys?
Sadly not, due to work comments (and stuffings social commitments ;)) not a great deal has been done, stuffing was tidying up my bad spraying on the inside a couple of weeks ago and we now have the loom but that is about it im afraid :(
I have continued collecting various parts for the car. Fingers crossed some more will happen this weekend tho :)
A little update for you guys ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/IMAGE_121.jpg
(please ignore the hideously badly painted rocker :()
TobyM1983
07-08-2008, 16:08
I've been thinking that I'd like to RB my s14 once I'm ready to look at power.
Really to see someone else's project so I know whats involved :)
SR woz ere.....lol.
Looks to be coming along nicely:thumbs: You need to get some good quality photo's up though.
Stuffing
07-08-2008, 19:13
We're going to struggle a bit on photo's for the next stages... My camera appears to have died! :wack: :(
:wack: It 'twas I that scrawled "SR woz 'ere", seemed symbolic since we put the engine in later that afternoon!
It was a tight fit getting the engine and gearbox in ove the radiator panel but now it looks like it was made to fit in there!
Car now looks super low, its had its front end in the air for too long!
Update on this guys? Im really interested to see whats next..
Update on this guys? Im really interested to see whats next..
Sadly no pics (pics to follow soon) but a quick update:
The engine and gearbox are in :D GT4Baz has done a stirling job on the dahboard looms and 90% of that is sorted. :notworthy
We thought it would be a good idea to make sure the single piece prop lines up correctly with the diff, so I tried to remove the rear half of the old prop as the front part was long gone, but managed to round the damn nuts on 3 of the 4 bolts :mad: so decided it would be easier to drop the diff completely and grind them off. This was a great idea until one of the mounting bolts snapped in the subframe :annoyed:
So then it was a subframe out job, which stuffing and I managed at the weekend, but . .. yeah you guessed it, me being the heavy handed twat that I am snapped another bolt this time one of them on the L-Shaped brackets for the front subframe mounts. :cry:
This all said, I was intending to give the rear end the refurb treatment in the not too distant future so as it is all apart we might as well do it now. I have got new poly subframe bushes (had collars before) and am trying to get my hands on the diff mount bushes, the back half of the underside will be stripped back and will prob slap on a good coat of POR15 and hammerite/stonechip. The subframe and arms will also be stripped and painted. This does mean every single bush and ball joint will be replaced and the car "should" be finished in one hit.
Just gotta learn how to extract broken studs/bolts now . . . . . . . . . . . . . :annoyed:
what happened with this thing then?
what happened with this thing then?
This project stalled quite a bit towards the back end of last year, but we have picked up the tools and brushes :rolleyes: again for the new year.
Sadly I have no pictures at the mo, but currently the rear end is still up in the air. The subframe, hubs and rear arms are away having poly bushes and new ball joints fitted by a local garage :) We have stripped back the rear wheel arches and underside and coated in POR-15 and Ill underseal it at the weekend. It should be back on all 4 wheels again in the next couple of weeks. :D
The engine is mounted with loom attached and most of the wiring loom is sorted in the dash area.
Jobs list at present (in no particular order):
Refit subframe, diff, rear suspension parts, brakes and wheels
Relocate battery to boot
Sort interior - seats, dash, peddles
Fit intake plenum, exhaust, fuel lines, prop
Make up new brake lines from BMC to ABS and front brakes
Rad, oil cooler
Wire up RTLC, Gauges, Fan controller
There is probably loads more I have forgotten but you get the idea. :wack: Hopefully once she is down on all 4 wheels we can seriously crack on :D
Ill try and get some photos taken and posted up soon.
glad you havent given up. me and a mate have set ourselves the task of doing the full conversion in 2 days(this weekend) thats from scratch with the sr still in the sx and the rb still in the skyline.big task haha should be fun tho
glad you havent given up. me and a mate have set ourselves the task of doing the full conversion in 2 days(this weekend) thats from scratch with the sr still in the sx and the rb still in the skyline.big task haha should be fun tho
Whoa whoa whoa........in yours?
not this weekend, i'll see how it goes n then i'll consider it.
back on topic...
glad you havent given up. me and a mate have set ourselves the task of doing the full conversion in 2 days(this weekend) thats from scratch with the sr still in the sx and the rb still in the skyline.big task haha should be fun tho
bloody hell :notworthy it takes me almost all weekend to get outta bed let alone do the conversion
Stuffing
24-01-2009, 16:31
We should have some pictures again in a couple of weeks time... Unfortunately I'm not around next weekend, but I do have a nice spangly new camera phone to take some pics with, so as soon as the opportunity presents itself! :thumbs:
bloody hell :notworthy it takes me almost all weekend to get outta bed let alone do the conversion
me to usually but just fancied a challenge :wack: started at 10 today, got rb out of skyline, then sr out of sx then bolted rb into sx. not bad for a steady days work :thumbs:
any more on this . we'll be starting mine soon . :nod:
ill not be goin as far as removin every thing , simple tidy up of engine bay an engine in and running :wack:
any more on this . we'll be starting mine soon . :nod:
ill not be goin as far as removin every thing , simple tidy up of engine bay an engine in and running :wack:
Im currently waiting for the subframe, rear hubs and arms to come back with all new poly bushes in :)
lol my original plan was a "simple tidy up" :rolleyes:
LOL i have just lost my job so i cant afford to do the lot in one go. and im more of a if its fast and looks good on the outside not really a look how shinney this is lad :nod::ghey: :rolleyes:
im picking my engine up wednesday and cant wait:whip:
boro_andy
01-03-2009, 21:58
cant wait to see this bud. 2 RB powered S-bodies in Peterborough love it!
There is actually some progress on this project!
After my snapping bolts session 6 or so months back :annoyed: Today we finally managed to refit the subframe, diff and shed load of the rear suspension :) This was after cutting a great hole in the interior to remove the remnants of one of the snapped subframe bolts (see here (http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=397556&highlight=snapped+bolt)) we used a spreader plate in the end and bolted the subframe bracket through to it.
It was nice to finally get the subby and diff back on but as per usual I ran into a couple of probs, firstly trying to find all the nuts and bolts were hiding and i didnt realise the drive shafts were different lengths, then this :confused:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?p=4599801#post4599801
Fingers crossed there will be more to update next weekend :)
Stuffing
12-04-2009, 23:56
Some pretty good progress so far this weekend, I'm a little surprised that Kev hasn't put the pic's up yet! But there's a decent update coming when he gets around to it! :thumbs:
pics ............. come on:whip::)
As stuffing has mentioned some progress has indeed been made. The rest of the rear suspension (excluding the toe arms) was all sorted on friday and now the rear brakes etc are back on so the car is finally back on all 4 wheels again for the first time since september. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0630.jpg
Once the car had finally left the garage it was time for an almighty clear up to give us some much needed space. This meant work could start again on the engine bay. Here is a photo of Stuffing and his mate Kep trying to remove the bottom half of the RB intake plenum ready for the greddy copy one to on.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0632.jpg
The McKinney mounting kit was finally done up properly after aligning the single piece prop :smitten: and drilling the front crossmember
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0639.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0640.jpg
I have to say stuffing has done a grand job on the rocker covers :notworthy especially after the hash I made of them first time round
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0641.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0642.jpg
Work has continued on the wiring loom inside the car, we have also begun fitting everything back in the engine bay - ABS, BMC and Clutch master.
As per usual in this project we ran into a slight snag, both the throttle body and IAC were at a friends house in Essex. This has been collected today (top work Baz :thumbs:) and means the new plenum can be finalised next weekend.
Sorry for the lack of pictures guys but we did have a few more that have turned out quite badly.
Like this one ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0633.jpg
Stuffing
14-04-2009, 19:23
my god, I even look gorgeous with bad hair! :wack:
jacko_rs
14-04-2009, 23:09
u look like austin powers a lil lol
More stuff bolted on this weekend :)
Firstly a quick piccy of the McKinney gearbox mount :smitten:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0654.jpg
Firstly I tackled the remaining bits on the rear :rolleyes: I ordered Toe arms to save fecking about with the original arms in which my local garages had pressed the wrong bushes :annoyed: so these were bolted up. The rear calipers and brake lines were all connected. Last week we bypassed the diff oil pump and cooler setup, after much hunting around we finally found the breather hose and connected it up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0646.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0643.jpg
Whilst I was tackling the rear Stuffing was doing a sterling job on the array or coolant and breather hoses left by removing the standard plenum (im fitting a sizable greddy copy side feed manifold) The plenum was eventually fitted along with the fuel rail and throttle body.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0668.jpg
Sorry for the bad pic but we took this late on in the day after trying to fathom out certain bits of the wiring loom
Once he had the plenum all sorted, we shoe horned in the clutch master cylinder and BMC/Booster.
Fingers crossed the engine doesnt move around too much :wack:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0670.jpg
And just to prove I do get my hands dirty here is an "action" shot ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0669.jpg
nice one. did the ports line up okay on the inlet copy mate?
gettin there:)
nice one. did the ports line up okay on the inlet copy mate?
gettin there:)
yep everything seemed to line up fine :) but quite a few of the standard bolts are the wrong length for the new plenum and breather and coolant hoses take a bit of work.
Top work chaps, I'll be over when I have sorted a few bits out on the GT4 to help get this beast on the road!
More "progress" made today :rolleyes:
Last weekend was sadly very unproductive. We ahd to remove the plenum and therefore BMC and clutch master cylinder due to two parts of the loom needed to be extended. Today we managed to get back to the same state we were in at the beginning of last weekend but this time we have a new thermostat, the IAC valve wiring was extended and connected up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0672.jpg
The lines for the oil cooler/filter relocation kit were long enough to install the cooler in a different country :wack: so had these corrected this week.
Today I trial fitted the power steering line from the pump to rack and after faffing with the poxy thing for close to an hour I decided to get a new braided one made over the next week :smash:
The poly steering rack bushes were fitted up and I moved onto the front godspeed ARB and this is where things started to go wrong again!!!!! :cry:
With the standard mounts the arb hits the sump :annoyed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0676.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0679.jpg
Im really pissed off as I was under the impression that with the Mckinney engine mounts the arb would fit. Im not 100% sure what I can do, I was thinking I might be able to space down the arb mounts (not with washers tho ;)) to aid clearance
yeah mate just space it down 5 mm. i did not use the kenney mounts and my roll bar has good clearance:nod:
swiftmini
03-05-2009, 07:43
My godspeed arb doesn't hit with the ruckus mounts. All you gotta do is use a nice hammer and block 'o' wood and massage it carefully, JAG!!!!
yeah mate just space it down 5 mm. i did not use the kenney mounts and my roll bar has good clearance:nod:
out of interest which mounts are you using?
My godspeed arb doesn't hit with the ruckus mounts. All you gotta do is use a nice hammer and block 'o' wood and massage it carefully, JAG!!!!
If you had seen me wielding a hammer you prob wouldnt say that :wack: tbh I think spacing it down a little would be my best bet - just gotta figure out how
blue boy
03-05-2009, 18:38
Just get some aluminium spacer blocks made up to. First time I have had a look on this project. Nice job:thumbs:
Today I tried to figure out how much I needed to space down the ARB so it cleared the sump using an ever faithful bag of washers ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0686.jpg
Now this has improved things - the Bush for the arb is still sat correctly and I have now managed to connect the drop links :) I am however still concerned on the lack of clearance (I cant even get a sheet of paper through the gap) :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0688.jpg
Im thinking that I am going to have to get some kind of bracket made up to drop the arb further and prob move it slightly further forward.
im usin the std r33 crossmember and r33 mounts. only had to cut a little bit of the webbin on the bonnet ( size of small letter box)
i would just little bash the sump were it is nearly touchin abit:)
im usin the std r33 crossmember and r33 mounts. only had to cut a little bit of the webbin on the bonnet ( size of small letter box)
i would just little bash the sump were it is nearly touchin abit:)
During my research before this project (what seems like a decade ago now :rolleyes:) I was put off using the 33 crossmember as Id heard the engine sits way too high, glad for you thats not the case :) did you have any fun transferring over the power steering gubbins?
Also what have you done about the power steering line from pump to rack? as Im not sure what to do at present :confused:
At the moment there seems to be a few people doing this conversion with some wiring probs, I have had a few homeless electrical plugs . . . . . http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=406458
During my research before this project (what seems like a decade ago now :rolleyes:) I was put off using the 33 crossmember as Id heard the engine sits way too high, glad for you thats not the case :) did you have any fun transferring over the power steering gubbins?
Also what have you done about the power steering line from pump to rack? as Im not sure what to do at present :confused:
At the moment there seems to be a few people doing this conversion with some wiring probs, I have had a few homeless electrical plugs . . . . . http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=406458
none of my power steering lines needed modified:no: all fit perfect .
also we used the s14 power steerin pump so all the fittings were the same .:nod:
fry modified it with a grinder and 5 washers and the belt lined up perfect.
have you checked my thread ? theres plenty pics of the above
rbs14 project:thumbs:
none of my power steering lines needed modified:no: all fit perfect .
also we used the s14 power steerin pump so all the fittings were the same .:nod:
fry modified it with a grinder and 5 washers and the belt lined up perfect.
have you checked my thread ? theres plenty pics of the above
rbs14 project:thumbs:
Ah that explains it, Im still using the RB pump and mine wont fit. Yeah I have had a quick goosey ;)
good hope that helps.
to modify the power steering pump were the long bolt goes through the bracket and the pump you need to grind the front( closest to the front of engine ) back about half an inch which lets the hole pump slide forward which allows the belt to line up. but now you have a half inch gap at the back which you just pack tight with washers , some tubing etc;)
At the moment there seems to be a few people doing this conversion with some wiring probs, I have had a few homeless electrical plugs . . . . . http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=406458
speak to john bennet mate he done mine and it started straight up. the mans a legend:thumbs:
swiftmini
05-05-2009, 17:15
I used my ca pump on my rb to simplify the fitting. Ca pump fits the rb bracket perfect ;)
I used my ca pump on my rb to simplify the fitting. Ca pump fits the rb bracket perfect ;)
does the belt line up as well kev:confused:
cheers for the help guys :)
Sadly my pas pump left with my old sr so only option is the RB one really
This weekend we managed to solve the problem with the ARB :D we just fitted the old whiteline one I had which clears the sump by a mile!!
Work started on the intercooler and piping and as a tradition on this project ran into some issues, the piping doesnt line up with the cooler. It looks like it is designed for a cooler 6 inches smaller that the one Im using oh well :rolleyes:
RE the power steering line the info I had from here (http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=392726&highlight=power+steering) was 6 foot of line, this is miles too much. Ive got to get the line shortened by at least 12inches so another trip to Pirtek this week. The standard power steering "cooler" seems to have done a runner so ill order a new inline one this week.
So fingers (and everything else) crossed for a first start next week :)
good news mate get video :nod:
swiftmini
11-05-2009, 16:27
Happy days!
good news mate get video :nod:
Happy days!
Yeah, fingers are definitely crossed the engine hasnt been run for 12+ months :rolleyes:
boro_andy
13-05-2009, 17:44
your at about the same stage as me bud!
Im hoping for a first start next week as well! Hoping to be finished by the end of next week fingers crossed!!
Shall have to have a little meet up and compare if all goes well both ends!
After mucho head scratching after my name that plug thread and trying to figure the loom she fired up today for the first time :D to say im happy is an understatement.
The culprit that has had me stumped for the past couple of weeks was an earth . . . . . . . the one in the boot for the battery. We had connected the -ve lead from the battery to an unsuitable place. We moved it to the mount for the spare wheel and she burst into life. Glad it was something so simple but still :annoyed:
There were no strange noises, leaks or smoke :)
The list of jobs is now quite small and expect lots done this weekend.
Off to celebrate now ;)
nice one mate congrats! i heard mine today for the first time myself. its a good feeling;)
swiftmini
24-05-2009, 09:49
woot, running rb's for the win
A quick update for everyone, she is now moving under her own power :D
Most of the body work is back on, just need the bonnet re-attaching, dashboard and some new tyres, a few more odds and sods and off for the MOT :)
well done fella :clap::clap:
swiftmini
01-06-2009, 17:16
:thumbs: awesomes :thumbs:
boro_andy
01-06-2009, 17:28
nice one fella! aiming to start mine this week hopefully!
Should be on the road in two weeks with a years ticket to boot....all being well!
Awesome news will have to come have a ganders soon!
Stuffing
02-06-2009, 12:48
Most of the body work is back on, just need the bonnet re-attaching, dashboard and some new tyres, a few more odds and sods and off for the MOT :)
Dashboard? You don't need the dashboard for an MOT! :wack:
nice one fella! aiming to start mine this week hopefully!
Should be on the road in two weeks with a years ticket to boot....all being well!
Awesome news will have to come have a ganders soon!
Good to hear yours is coming along nicely mate. I keep saying to Dale and Chris that I'll have to pop over and see you guys sometime soon, I'll try and drag Kev along when I do! :thumbs:
Dashboard? You don't need the dashboard for an MOT! :wack:
I do if we are stashing the ECU in the glovebox ;)
boro_andy
02-06-2009, 17:39
Dashboard? You don't need the dashboard for an MOT! :wack:
Good to hear yours is coming along nicely mate. I keep saying to Dale and Chris that I'll have to pop over and see you guys sometime soon, I'll try and drag Kev along when I do! :thumbs:
Good man :thumbs:
Dale may well be heading down the skyline route so he'll have a half decent car :wave:
After mucho head scratching after my name that plug thread and trying to figure the loom she fired up today for the first time :D to say im happy is an understatement.
Wahay!! :clap: :thumbs:
Im so glad the loom was fine in the end mate... really sorry for the confusion with the plugs tho :(.... but im pretty relieved too tbh, I was getting slightly concerned for a while there! :wack:
Did she fire up 1st crank then?... that would be even better from my point of view! :cool: lol
Hope you're a happy man now Kev, as you've now got a pretty mint S14a by the looks of the project thread! :nod:
You just need to enjoy it now. :) :sxoc:
Nize.
Wahay!! :clap: :thumbs:
Im so glad the loom was fine in the end mate... really sorry for the confusion with the plugs tho :(.... but im pretty relieved too tbh, I was getting slightly concerned for a while there! :wack:
Did she fire up 1st crank then?... that would be even better from my point of view! :cool: lol
Hope you're a happy man now Kev, as you've now got a pretty mint S14a by the looks of the project thread! :nod:
You just need to enjoy it now. :) :sxoc:
Nize.
Yeah me 2 many thanks for the help :sxoc: in some respects the confusion about the plugs helped as I now know a whole heap more about the loom etc which is always handy
Yep after fixing the earth :rolleyes: we turned her over without plugs or fuel pump fuse quite a few times to build oil pressure etc then put everything back and she burst into life, was a very happy moment I tell you :D
Yep hopefully be able to enjoy it over the summer.
I still have a couple of days worth of work to do and have a few niggles that need sorting like an ABS warning light and a slight prob on idle (this is due to a breather hose for the idle control valve tho :annoyed:)
ill try and get some more pics up at the weekend too.
Thanks again for the help on this :notworthy:thumbs:
Nize - one question I did have was re Consult as the wires for this are on the spare/unused white connector in the footwell. Ideally I would like to be able to use consult, would there be any issue with chopping the consult connector from the loom near the fusebox and connecting it to the wires on the spare connection? Ie moving it from one side to the other. I know I could move them over to the F4 plug and keep the factory location but was thinking it might be easier and more practical to have it next to the ECU, what do you think?
Nize - one question I did have was re Consult as the wires for this are on the spare/unused white connector in the footwell. Ideally I would like to be able to use consult, would there be any issue with chopping the consult connector from the loom near the fusebox and connecting it to the wires on the spare connection? Ie moving it from one side to the other. I know I could move them over to the F4 plug and keep the factory location but was thinking it might be easier and more practical to have it next to the ECU, what do you think?
Hi Kev, I had actually thought i'd connected the consult wires for you, but as I lost a lot of my records thanks to a dead hard-drive I can't be sure.
It's not too hard to connect the consult plug ( you shouldn't need to move the std position, only connect the feeds where needed - but it is fairly easy to move it to the ecu side), just needs a permanment live, a switched live, a ground, the Tx and Rx signals from the ECU IIRC... but very easy to find these. :)
I'll send you instructions on how to test the consult plug if you like... you may find it's all there (Or most of the power/ground is there), but it's possible that I didn't do it as i'd ran so over-time... i'd hoped it was done tho. :)
Cheers mate.
Nize
More work done today (the end is almost in sight)
HIDs wired up as are the other lights up front. Dakota Tach converter box of jiggery pockery is all connected, but have got to adjust the idle though as it is a touch high . . .around 1050 rather than the 800-850rpm it should be.
Tomorrow the remainder of the body work should be finalised. i just have to find the myriad of bolts and fastenings that have escaped around the garage :rolleyes:
A couple of problems I do have are an ABS warning light :( and none of my front indicators are working including when using the hazards :cry:
boro_andy
06-06-2009, 23:30
:thumbs: can't wait to see this bud! get some pics and video up!
The MOT is booked :D fingers and everything else crossed for Wed!
The only remaining fault is a battery warning light but the battery is putting out +12v and 14.5v when the engine is running. I dont think this is a major prob but will find out soon enough.
This weekend I managed to resolve the problems with the ABS and indicators (dont tell anyone but I plugged something in wrong :rolleyes:) the rest of the bodywork went on then I started on the interior. Wipers, horn and bonnet cable all sorted.
The jobs list that remains
Put road wheels on
MOT :D
Road Tax :whip:
After getting a new ticket . . . . .
Wire up and calibrate the Dakota speedo converter
Oil Temp, pressure, boost and water Temp gauges need wiring
Vems EGT and wideband needs fitting
Make stereo work - re-connect speaker wires
Sort out fans as controller is not controlling anything - got an override switch set up so fans are "manually controlled" atm :rolleyes:
Get an Alarm fitted
I hope to get the majority of this sorted for the Weekender but I got on holiday for 2 weeks in the sun on the 23rd so time is running out fast.
a few pics :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0741.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0744.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0745.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/kev_200sx/RB/CIMG0746.jpg
my rb s13 uses mackinny mounts and the front ARB is on the sump did you have the same issue??
sorry for the hijack??
Stuffing
15-06-2009, 12:52
Adz, what ARB are you using?
With Kev's, the Godspeed ARB stood no chance of clearing the sump properly, however the whiteline ARB had bags of clearance.
I think its standard i'll show you on sat how close it is :)
boro_andy
19-06-2009, 23:55
Kev - Where did u get your turbo side intercooler pipe work from?
swiftmini
20-06-2009, 12:08
Iam liking your bay dude :thumbs: it looks alot like mine. Greedy copy intake ftw :D
Kev - Where did u get your turbo side intercooler pipe work from?
the cooler kit was part of the mckinney conversion kit but it didnt fit as i have a larger cooler than it was designed for :rolleyes: the hotpipe is the only part of the kit i used the rest was made up with silicon bends from egay
Iam liking your bay dude :thumbs: it looks alot like mine. Greedy copy intake ftw :D
yeah the side intake was high up on my list for bonnet clearance and it simplified the cooler pipework, was an arse to fit tho but is a big improvement to the look of the bay (makes changing sparkies easier too ;))
I have been on hols for the past 2 weeks whilst the car has been in the garage for the MOT the bad news is there have been quite a few problems :annoyed:
The short version of the list is:
One or more of the coilpacks were knackered so had a saga of ordering some splitfires from japan (parcelforce are some of the most useless sacks of shite Ive ever dealt with :rant:)
The Alternator fault was fixed - there was a spare wire with no home on the alternator part of the loom, the garage have wired in a resistor/bulb into this part of the circuit and everything is fine
Yesterday they were just finishing up and doing the emissions and found out the intake plenum to head gasket is leaking loads :( getting hold of one is going to be a nightmare, so there is no hope of me driving the 200 to the weekender :cry:
I was really hoping for this to be sorted ready for after my hols and was really looking forward to driving for the first time in over a year over to the weekender. Its not going to be the same convoying across in my work Astravan, to say im gutted is an understatement :(
swiftmini
09-07-2009, 09:20
Good times will come, I have been where you are and I know your pain :)
The worst is over not long now
shit news mate:( all the rb boys have dropped out gander, scotty, at this rate ill be the only one there,
but that all depends if i can sort my suspension out tonight:(
looking good kev, are you going to take it to JAE? this was the first thread that i looked at when i joined SXOC :) looking good mate
lewis
looking good kev, are you going to take it to JAE? this was the first thread that i looked at when i joined SXOC :) looking good mate
lewis
If it ever passes the MOT i will lol :rolleyes: :smash: driving the van in the convoy to the weekender was a little depressing :(
Nissan are idiots and tried on 3 occasions to send the correct gasket to the garage and failed :( then they refused to send any more without a reg or chassis number neither of which I have or have much chance of getting. When i last spoke to the garage they were looking to order a thicker/fancy one which helps reduce heat soak from the block to the intake, apparently once the gasket is replaced everything should be finish. So the waiting continues . . . . . . . . .
If it ever passes the MOT i will lol :rolleyes: :smash: driving the van in the convoy to the weekender was a little depressing :(
Nissan are idiots and tried on 3 occasions to send the correct gasket to the garage and failed :( then they refused to send any more without a reg or chassis number neither of which I have or have much chance of getting. When i last spoke to the garage they were looking to order a thicker/fancy one which helps reduce heat soak from the bloke to the intake so the waiting continues . . . . . . . . .
hmmm bumer, well i hope you can get it ready for JAE as me and hayley will be going :thumbs: i might be off of the standard wheels by then but we will have to see:nod:
have you not tried getting apex to get you the part of another trader? they can usually get the oem nissn parts cheaper than nissan as they are traders?
hmmm bumer, well i hope you can get it ready for JAE as me and hayley will be going :thumbs: i might be off of the standard wheels by then but we will have to see:nod:
have you not tried getting apex to get you the part of another trader? they can usually get the oem nissn parts cheaper than nissan as they are traders?
Good work :thumbs: I am looking forward to meeting up with everyone again after the weekender so am keen to go to JAE :sxoc:
The prob was the part looked correct on FAST so supposedly had the correct part number but the gasket was the wrong shape each time it was ordered :annoyed: I need to chase the garage really but im going to be spending a chunk of the afternoon driving back from Manchester so cant really do much
Its my bday tomoz, would be an awesome prezzie :D
happy b-day for tommorow, yea JAE isnt too far from you isit?
hopefully you will get your gasket, i think im having my engine tugged out in the new year and the engine bay seam welded :) that elimiates any rust and makes on nice and stiff up front
hopefully you will have an mot soon then :)
Just spoke to the garage and after 2 Months and 1 day. . . . . .
She has passed the MOT :D
It has been a nightmare, the coilpacks delayed things loads (damn parcelforce :mad:) sorting the intake gasket was a royal pita, then a combination of swine flu and injury resulted in the garage being short staffed for the past 3 weeks. The MOT has dragged on way too long but meh
Cant wait til tomorrow when I pick her up :D
I have just got back from the garage, its such a strange but good feeling having the 200 back on road :wack:
The garage bill was "considerable" but meh its back thats the main thing
This means the jobs list has grown again:-
From above ^^^^ (in no particular order)
Wire up and calibrate the Dakota speedo converter Dont think I need this anymore as up to 60 the speedo is accurate, I havent been brave enough to go faster yet :ghey:
Oil Temp, pressure, boost and water Temp gauges need wiring
Vems EGT and wideband needs fitting
Make stereo work - re-wire speakers
Sort out fans as controller is not controlling anything - got an override switch set up so fans are "manually controlled" ive now found out I wired up the fan controller a bit wrong - didnt realise it grounds the connection when the water is up to temp :rolleyes:
Get an Alarm fitted
Sort out fuel smell from old Carbon canister pipe, ive removed all the engine bay pipes for the canister but after reading up on here it needs a U-Bend in it to help stop the smell, its currently bodged into the Chassis rails
Clean MAF
Re-Fit Decat pipe with New Gaskets
Fit my RLTC :p
Sort Gearleaver gaitor/seals as Im getting a bit of a gearbox oil smell. :hurl:
Tidy up/cover hole in interior made by snapping the subframe bolt
Fingers cross I will manage some of this by JAE . . . . . . . .
good to hear it mate, we are still goiing to jae but not in the 200 :(
i decided to take rent of a workshop and rebuild my car from the bare shell :) refurbing everything and then rebuilding the engine,
fortunatly hayley has a new car for us to use over the next year tho, 106 Gti, not quite a 200 but just as fun :wack: hope to see you at JAE and to see this long waited rb weapan :thumbs:
good to hear it mate, we are still goiing to jae but not in the 200 :(
i decided to take rent of a workshop and rebuild my car from the bare shell :) refurbing everything and then rebuilding the engine,
fortunatly hayley has a new car for us to use over the next year tho, 106 Gti, not quite a 200 but just as fun :wack: hope to see you at JAE and to see this long waited rb weapan :thumbs:
Good stuff :thumbs: dont do what I did tho and misplace a load of bolts, screws, washers, nuts and clips :wack:
Yeah sarah mentioned Hayley had a new motor, I have booked the tickets for JAE so we are defo going there is even a chance Ill even make it onto the stand :eek:
yea its a bit of a beast, needs a few bits doing to it but looks so simple compared the the nissan. im fully taking everthing off so i can treat all the bottom and the engine bay. and the refitting many new part :wack: and may have a go at rebuilding th sr :)
when are you going to get that beast on the rollers and see what powerz its running, and i bet it sound nuts :wack:
when are you going to get that beast on the rollers and see what powerz its running, and i bet it sound nuts :wack:
I will do soonish. Its holding back a little atm which im hoping is just dirty maf wire or something equally simple. I wanna make sure everything is ok with it as well before I fit my boost controller, the engine hasnt been run for quite some time so Im not going to push it in fear of anything breaking.
It does sound very nice :smitten: :)
Thought it was about time I did a little update. Over the last few weeks I have been trying to diagnose some poor running issues, the MAF was cleaned and cooler pipework checked for leaks etc the CAT was removed on the morning of JAE :rolleyes: but still had an intermittent fault :annoyed:
During this process I have fitted some gauges - boost, oil temp & pressure and water temp, I have also found out that my fan controller is fubarred :mad: and everything seemed OK but periodically it would run like a bag of shite :(
I had a VEMS Afr gauge that I hadnt had chance to fit and this would replace the lambda and eliminate that as a source of problems. So after a few hours of swearing in the heat the gauge is fitted, the AFM was cleaned again, the spark plugs were removed and checked (all ok) I dismanted the AFM to find that some of the soldering was dodgy, so sorted that and double/triple checked all the connections and wiring for the ECU.
The result is it is running loads better :D and sounds absolutely awesome :smitten: I dont think changing the lambda fixed the issue but a combination of all the little bits - poking and prodding seems to have done the trick. The bad news is I am now suffering from a big flat spot in the midrange which seems to be common on the RBs once you do the breathing mods + FMIC on standard ECU :( I need to do some logging on the AFR gauge but a quick glance whilst wot :eek: and it was in the 10s maybe lower.
I need to double check the boost that it is running, hopefully ill get chance to fit my Profec B this week and get it set up properly for 0.85bar as its still the standard turbo then look into fuel computer options :thumbs:
The last couple of months have been quite productive on this . . . . . . .
Although the car seemed to be running better the performance was somewhat lacking - almost completely lacking might be a better way to put it :wack: this is despite the boost gauge hitting a bar :eek: after checking the obvious leaks etc I decided I would try and get consult working to make sure everything was ok after much head scratching and wire prodding Fordy came to the rescue and within a few minutes found the problem :notworthy and consult was working :)
The joy was very short lived as the ECU threw up a Code 34 - Knock Sensor. To cut a very long story short the connector to the rear knock sensor (pesky RBs have 2) was damaged and wasn't making a connection to the sensor itself :annoyed: the worst part is this took many hours, many scraped knuckles and a replacement knock sensor to find out :mad: I replaced the connector, bullet connector FTW :) and no faults and all is good :D it would seem the Skyline ECU loves throwing in a bucket load of fuel esp if there is a fault, some of the aussie guys think that, as per my example, there is so much excess fuel that a kind of combustion occurs in the manifold/turbo which causes this overboosting effect. All I know is that since fixing the knock sensor wiring it is boosting as it should.
Last weekend I roughly set up the boost controller to the heady heights of 12psi and oh my word is the car transformed, its easily quicker than my old stage 2 SR, the response is amazing, no lag just instant power :D and did I mention the way it sounds :smitten::smitten:
[Flame Suit On]I have also re-fitted the RLTC and set that all up[/Flame Suit] now just waiting for some replacement wiring for my headunit so I can wire that in and tidy up the centre console. I also need to fit a recirc but there isnt anywhere on the piping to take off from so this needs a little thought.
At some point soon Ill throw up some more pics of the almost finished article.
yeah mine had a knock sensor off as well, its amazing how flat the rb goes if one of them go:(
but what a difference when fixed:D
yeah mine had a knock sensor off as well, its amazing how flat the rb goes if one of them go:(
but what a difference when fixed:D
The ironic thing was mine were both fine (still replaced one for no reason :annoyed:)
Tell me about it, its a massive difference. I had a daft grin on my face pretty much all last Sunday while driving it about :D
The ironic thing was mine were both fine (still replaced one for no reason :annoyed:)
Tell me about it, its a massive difference. I had a daft grin on my face pretty much all last Sunday while driving it about :D
i cant wait to get mine back and running 12psi:D mines only running 6 psi at min dew to a hole in the front mount which is causing a miss fire. new one is getting fitted and cant wait.
is it a big difference 12psi ?
i cant wait to get mine back and running 12psi:D mines only running 6 psi at min dew to a hole in the front mount which is causing a miss fire. new one is getting fitted and cant wait.
is it a big difference 12psi ?
Mine was running actuator and was brisk, obviously loads better than before with the fault, but it does fly on 12.
My mate has a GT4 with hybrid tubby, pfc etc running about 330bhp and 340lbft and its as quick as that. Just gotta save some pennies for a custom remap with RSP I should see some marked improvements :D most GTS owners see 260-280hp with the stage one mods and many clatter through the 300 barrier once the fueling is sorted :D
Mine was running actuator and was brisk, obviously loads better than before with the fault, but it does fly on 12.
My mate has a GT4 with hybrid tubby, pfc etc running about 330bhp and 340lbft and its as quick as that. Just gotta save some pennies for a custom remap with RSP I should see some marked improvements :D most GTS owners see 260-280hp with the stage one mods and many clatter through the 300 barrier once the fueling is sorted :D
yeah i have read they need remapped to sort the flat spots and fuel problems . RSP defo seems the way to go, they will be getting my car!
yeah i have read they need remapped to sort the flat spots and fuel problems . RSP defo seems the way to go, they will be getting my car!
They have a special offer on at the mo as well lol the money is definitely burning a hole at the mo http://www.skylineowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129620
i remember the smile on my face when i drove mine for the first time after the engine change felt like i was on top of the world.i missed that special offer cant relly drive mine untill it has a remap.rsp advised me not to the last time my car was in there.but not got the dosh atm:annoyed:
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