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In a world where cars battle in sideways motion, 2 men set out to make a machine that would destroy all competition. They call themselves Garage LSD! This is the tale of one car and one garage's struggle through rust and bankruptcy to bring the viewing public an inspiration to their monotonous linear lives. :D
Some of you have most likely seen this slide-ways machine before during its original incarnation but after taking a closer look underneath her recently whilst robbing fuel tank straps for garage LSD's recently completed road car (http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=289950) we found that the rust had found a new home in enough places to warrant a restoration. As my new employment status is in training i cant afford to run the car this year so i'm taking the year out as an oppurtunity to do away with the rust and bring an s13 shell back to its deserved glory.
Last year:
JAE
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/17739751a5093649206l.jpg
Doing what its meant for
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/17739751a5210573513l.jpg
One for the lads
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/17739751a5093651203l.jpg
I have a few plans as to how im going to tackle the rust problem and it will give me the oppurtunity to make some improvements whilst im at it. I began yesterday afternoon by stripping the car down to a bare shell.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P3270656.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P3270669.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P3270654.jpg
The internal wiring loom just needs disconnected from the diff before i take it all out as I intend to replace as little of it as is necessary. The running gear will be removed as soon as puggers car is away for its mot so i can roll mine through to the workshop.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P3270655.jpg
There was two kick panels on the car that i never thought to look underneath the whole time i've had it but they revealed some nice holes. Also the front cross member is one of the first things on the list to go.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P3270658.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P3270664.jpg
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Martin_350z
29-03-2008, 00:11
rather you than me, all am saying!
:( where was my mention ;)
good luck min ill help as much as i can just gimme a shout
ferretca18
29-03-2008, 12:16
Good luck guys! looking forward to updates on this one:)
Well this weekend ended up as a bit of a failure, was hoping to have got it through and got cracking on the underside but getting puggers car ready for its mot took more than the half hour or so we were expecting and its still not quite ready :( As a bit of stress release I let him play with his favourite tool as i couldn't bare to see that cross member looking back at me every time I see the car. Also decided how its replacement is gonna fit so as to leave as much of the original strengthening gussets and removed the last of the wiring loom from the inside of the car.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P3290674.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P3290676.jpg
silvia_200sx
31-03-2008, 20:37
Those foot plates, where did you get them from?
Ol'_200sx_thing
31-03-2008, 21:28
the rust isnt too bad mate, you know s13's it could be worse :wack:
you making your own front cross member, or buying a nissan replacement ?
silvia 200sx : the foot plates are just a bit of chequer plate bent at one end
ol 200 : the rust doesnt appear too bad as i haven't shown it all and some of it was fixed last year for its mot, but as soon as i get a chance to get stuck in the rust problem will become apparent. :nod: :( Also the replacement cross member is sat at the bottom of the last pic, bit of box section. :thumbs:
Ol'_200sx_thing
31-03-2008, 22:16
ahhh, i see :nod:
That will have more strength than the original.
Is there alot of tin worm ?
silvia_200sx
01-04-2008, 22:34
Where did you get the plate from?
Where did you get the plate from?
They were in the car hen he bought it..
Its just aluminum Chequar plate mate, iirc about 3mm thick.
You should get at a large hardware store or local metal dealer :)
Mind buy the bendy stuff (ie 5083-0) if not it'll break up on you altho i think 3 mm trade plate only comes in bendy :)
silvia_200sx
02-04-2008, 19:36
Thats the info i was after. Thanks.
Fake Ben Taylor
17-04-2008, 01:51
update already!!!
update already!!!
Hopefully got a wee something up my sleeve so i can't really progress much till then. Plus i've had a huge back log of cars needing fixed. Which has now been cleared. :)
Hopefully got a wee something up my sleeve so i can't really progress much till then. Plus i've had a huge back log of cars needing fixed. Which has now been cleared. :)
Were gonna need to get some work done to it asap... 10 weeks and counting until im rendered busy lol
need to get the punto sold... :D
Finally got a bit more work done yesterday afternoon.
Pulled the rear hatch off.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/19042008044.jpg
:Plug: for one of my sponsors. :D
Fuel tank out.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/19042008046.jpg
Then we got started on making up something for the rear end. Pic of pugger hard at it doing his fabrication bit. Anyone work out what it is?
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/19042008047.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/19042008045.jpg
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After pugger had finished welding that up we dropped the subframe off. Looking more like a monster truck now.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/19042008051.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/19042008050.jpg
I also had a poke around at the filler on the driver side rear wing. is pretty thick to say the least, was a nightmare trying to get the rear bumper off as the last bolt at the bottom on the right thats covered by the plastic vent box isnt accesible without taking it off. the wing is bent in enough that the box wont come over the bolts so had to get in about it with a hacksaw blade till it would come out. The pictures show some of the filler i've chipped off and an example of the thickness using a hacksaw blade.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/19042008052.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/19042008053.jpg
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well done lads i knowwhat it is :D
you gonna be working on the car today ?
ok, been a bit quiet lately due to incredible amounts of homework and various other work needing carried out but i rallied the troops on saturday to give me a hand getting her up. I'll let the pictures do the talking here but danny nipped up during the week to weld the new front cross member in.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P5030823.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P5030826.jpg
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http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P6140832.jpg
and some more
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P6140833.jpg
someones been at it before
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P6140834.jpg
this stuff if triple skinned here, thank god for 1mm cutting discs.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P6140838.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P6140835.jpg
Generally its nowhere near as bad as i thought, there was quite a bit of welding done last year for the mot but that looks like it could do with being cut out and re-done as its started to look a bit suspect. when i'm finished with this i have no intention of ever having to worry about rust again so im trying to get it perfect the first time. :)
I also picked this up the previous weekend, its suffering from several rust issues aswell, not too sure whats gonna happen with the shell yet but all the running gear is getting dropped into the john deere.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/07062008167.jpg
any idea what exhaust this is? the things huge. sound good though. :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/07062008169.jpg
Here's something danny made at work the other week, boys got too much time on his hands! :D
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/other%20stuff/31052008155.jpg
looking good lads, keep it up!
Got stuck into the shell this afternoon, trying to clean off 19 years of crap from under the car is worse than removing sound deadning. The few little spots of rust that were apparent before soon opened up into bigger holes but apart from the rear chassis rails the biggest effort is gonna be rebuilding the edge of the sills it would seem.
Here's the top half taken back to bare metal.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/28062008225.jpg
Some of the holes starting to appear.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/28062008220.jpg
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I cut a section of the footwell out and replaced it with good metal just before EDC started on TV so i called it a night at that. Now i've worked out a good method for cleaning the underside up I should get a lot more done tomorrow. The welding skills are pretty poor just now but by the end of the project I should be up to scratch. :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/28062008223.jpg
Started today off by removing the big patch from the rear chassis leg, the metal underneath was a rotten mess so cut quite a lot more back afterwards. whats left now is all pretty much good metal but i might take a bit more out before re-building it.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P6290856.jpg
A new method of finding holes involves pulling back any seamsealer that is inside the car as its all over the place used to cover holes instead of fixing them. I patched this one aswell as the one on the rear of the floorpan.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P6290860.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P6290859.jpg
Next I started digging about in the archs and cleaning a bit more back on the sill to reveal several patches and holes that are gonna need replaced.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P6290861.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P6290862.jpg
I'm waiting on getting some thicker metal before I can do the chassis legs but once they're done i can turn her onto the other side and start on the rest of the floor pan.
what you using to clean all the underseal and stuff off the underside?
what you using to clean all the underseal and stuff off the underside?
I'm just using a wire brush wheel on my grinder and one for the drill to get into the tighter spaces as well as a paint scraper and nitromorse, its very labour intensive. :(
Rubix_Cube
02-07-2008, 10:20
Looks like your going "baws oot" on the restoraion there bud. Well done. Will be good to see her back next season.
Oh a side note your rear quarter looks like mine when we stripped the paint back. You'll be able to see a little bit in that pic.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f25/rubix_cube84/Project%20Paint/SMDSC00098.jpg
Aye, its along those line wullie, although the whole swage line has been moved up the car about an inch, quite an extensive bit of remodelling has been done, its gonna be intresting watching me trying to replicate it. :)
Anyway, been doing a bit of shopping this week, first up a set of weds sport linearette's purchased from ebay, 17x9 et21. They're a bit buckled but hopefully that can be straightened out without to much problems and then get them refurbed so they look nice a new again. Was a bit of an impulse buy as i need to be focusing on more important things right now but i couldnt help myself. :D Also a really big thanks to Wayne200hilton who went and picked them up from the seller and boxed them up for my courier to come get them. Cheers very much mate, your a star. :thumbs:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/03072008243.jpg
Next it was about time for an engine hoist as borrowing other peoples all the time is just a pain in the arse. I bought a long reach one so as to avoid having to remove bumpers all the time. :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/03072008242.jpg
Last but not least a load of stuff for the future rust proofing of the car. Without the excellent guidance from petrols thread god knows what i would have been slapping on the underside of the her but the por-15 seems to be amazing stuff and the box section wax should sort the inside of the sills out aswell as several other places. :nod:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/03072008244.jpg
Dragerboy
04-07-2008, 15:40
Good luck with the Project Duncan. My apologies as regards the wheels I didn't think they were buckled just thought they were in poor cosmetic condition. My personal opinion on your S14 is make those Weds look real good as I think they will look better than the standard GTR wheels.
All the best
A pretty quiet weekend, had two lads from work come down to learn how to take an engine out. So we assembled the crane and its ridiculous how big a reach it has, not even on its longest setting and it can pull an engine out with about a foot spare between the bumper and hydraulic ram. :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/05072008100.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/05072008248.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/05072008249.jpg
T in the park next weekend so nothing getting done then but i'll probably be thinking about dropping the subframe out the s14 shortly as it needs to get sent away to get painted.
japdrifter
08-07-2008, 09:22
how much did you pay for the s14 mate?? did you buy it as a runner?
how much did you pay for the s14 mate?? did you buy it as a runner?
It runs fine mate, has 50k engine in it but the shell is about 80-90k and fairly rotten. Dont know if i should divulge the price as i got it for a bargain from a friend on the condition that everything i dont use i sell and he gets the money, win win for both of us as its been sat for a year and a half and he doesnt have the time to break it.
Couple of pics one of the lads that were helping sent me,
:D
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/05072008106.jpg
HKS panel filter, looks brand new. For sale if anybody wants it.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/05072008109.jpg
Genuine B&M
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/05072008127.jpg
A pic to give u an idea how far away the crane was from the bumper and not even on its longest setting.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/05072008119.jpg
Last but not least a load of stuff for the future rust proofing of the car. Without the excellent guidance from petrols thread god knows what i would have been slapping on the underside of the her but the por-15 seems to be amazing stuff and the box section wax should sort the inside of the sills out aswell as several other places. :nod:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/03072008244.jpg
Where did you buy this stuff from? I need to redo my chassis and floorplan properly and want to protect it from the elements...
www.bilthamber.com for the box section wax and if you check petrols thread for info on the rust removal stuff he's been using & www.frost.co.uk the por-15. If its done properly then rust should never be an issue again. I'll probably need more por-15 as i think almost everything is gonna be getting coated before it'll get primered and painted in its selected colour scheme. There's plenty of info on the sites about all the range. :thumbs:
Thanks Dunkz, are you using 1 tube per rail then?
Thanks Dunkz, are you using 1 tube per rail then?
the dynax s-50 tubes are huge and its a really watery wax so it'll seap into all the tiny little cracks, i'll get a photo of a spray attachment that comes with it but i think the 2 tubes will probably do the whole car, inside both sills, the front box section we've fitted, chassis rails, inside the rear subframe and anywhere else i feel like spraying it. Petrol's thread is the one to check as he's been using it, im a few weeks away from spraying anything yet. :thumbs:
Yeah, I've been looking and I think you can put the stuff in without having to remove all the rust as it treats it removes and protects it... Good stuff if I've read it right...
I not going to strip as far as you/petrol but will be keen to prevent any further crap/corrosion...
that exhaust looks like a kakimato one ive seen on a evo before
After a couple of weekends away i've managed to get properly stuck in to the welding. First things first i uncovered the panel that had been super glued on by one of the previous owners.:eek: The chequer plate used in my foot wells were just a method of covering up the holes.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P7300881-1.jpg
I then moved on to sorting out the rear chassis rails. They've both been double skinned to make sure they were nice and strong but unfortunately i ran out of mig wire just after tacking on one of the top plates, so most of my afternoon was wasted running around town trying to find some more.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P7300880.jpg
With the chassis rails finished i cracked on with stitch welding all the seams underneath. So far I've done all of the passenger side chassis rail and the top side of the drivers one as well as several seams running horizontally across the car.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P7290864.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P7300879.jpg
The time it takes to clean all the years of crap off is ridiculous, if it wasnt for that being so time consuming to get fresh metal to weld to i'd propbably have been done by now, I've got the seam where the passenger wheel arch meets the footwell and then the shell can be put on her otherside to finish off the rest of the work however i've been trying to do as much as i can this way up so that when it does go over it should leave the bare minimum to do before i can paint her up.
Cracking work :nod: I do wish I had the space to do this :( Keep up the good work mate :thumbs:
Fake Ben Taylor
30-07-2008, 21:26
good work guys :thumbs:
garage ben doing me proud :wack:
yer a dafty u should of given me a shout i have a couple thousand metres lying here
good work guys :thumbs:
garage ben doing me proud :wack:
Less of the plural, :wack: Danny's busy being a father so its just me on my lonesome.
yer a dafty u should of given me a shout i have a couple thousand metres lying here
Whilst your away at work and i have no way of getting out to your house I took the easiest option and went and bought some.
Bit more done and a new problem discovered. :(
First off I thought i would make somewhere to put my feet so I chopped out the remains of all the rusty bits and put in a new plate.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8010826.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8010832.jpg
This next picture shows where the rust follows the seam up from the footwell onto the wheel arch and along the top seam.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8010829.jpg
I then stitched round the gearbox mount.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8010831.jpg
Then onto the other drivers side rear chassis rail, the rear section isn't too bad although there's a hole couple of holes on the top of it that will need addressed as well.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8010834.jpg
The real problem lies with this one. The rust extends underneath the cross member and the only feasible way I can think of to get to it is to cut a hole in the boot floor and rebuild it from the inside which i dont really want to do. :cry:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8010833.jpg
Spotted some more seam sealer poking through a few places whilst i was working on the chassis rail so naturally i had to give it a poke. Thought i'd found all the holes by now. :(
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8030649.jpg
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The chassis rails taking ages to get to a stage where I can begin welding and I'v ran out of time for this afternoon. The problem is the rust runs back underneath the crossmember. So I keep cutting more and more back until i've got to the end of the rust.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8030642.jpg
A view from underneath looking into the crossmember
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8030648.jpg
And after a bit of trying to clean rust out.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8030653.jpg
A bit more work this afternoon has seen a slight improvment as well as having to cut a lot more out of the chassis rail to find good metal. So what started as a little buble on the surface has turned out to be rotten on the two layers beneath it:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8040658.jpg
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From there i'd finally cleaned everything back far enough to begin welding so I made up the first plate for the main hole.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8040654.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8040656.jpg
I designed it to sit underneath the cross member and later on i'll put a second plate over the top of it to add enough strength although looking at the design of it most of the strength for this section is built into the cross member and not the overlap so its not as big an issue as I thought.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8040659.jpg
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Also lifted a few more seams that had started to bulge and set about neutralising the rust that was below them.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8040665.jpg
I also stitched a bit more of the car when i got bored of making plates and cutting holes as stitching is the fun bit. :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8040663.jpg
Put the second plate over the chassis rail although the bottom can't be welded until i turn the car over and as there are no willing volunteers it means i wont be able to do anything tomorrow either. Also patched up the front wheel arch. That leaves me with one of two holes in the floor, finishing off the chassis rails and then the drivers side footwell and wheel arch. After that I can get cracking on the engine bay.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8050669.jpg
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Looking good mate,thats a lot of hard graft your putting in:thumbs: I luckily managed to avoid any welding on mine (thats not to rile you:)) but youve done a good job with the problems youve had to solve:clap: keep it up fella.J
bottom can't be welded until i turn the car over and as there are no willing volunteers it means i wont be able to do anything tomorrow either.
Lies i tell ya, All Lies!!! :wack:
now get welding ;) :thumbs:
cant be welded until i turn the car over and as there are no willing volunteers it means i wont be able to do anything tomorrow either.
:wave:
i never got a phone or text ??:wack::wack:
:wave:
i never got a phone or text ??:wack::wack:
I would have called you but at the time i had no-one to help and two people weren't gonna manage it, eventually when i had people get back to me i ended up with 5 so you werent needed, although pugger did spend the whole time on the phone.
I would have called you but at the time i had no-one to help and two people weren't gonna manage it, eventually when i had people get back to me i ended up with 5 so you werent needed, although pugger did spend the whole time on the phone.
lol ok nay bother :)
Managed to get the car turned over so apart from the hundreds of standard holes nissan saw fit to put in the car that i'm wanting to fill the underside is essentially pretty much finished. I finished off the rear chassis rails and then got cracking with the drivers foot well/wheel arch.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8060676.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8060677.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8070679.jpg
I also lifted a few seams around the top of the chassis rails where it enters the wheel arch and cleared the layers of rust that were present before be stitching them up.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8060675.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8070678.jpg
After that i put a plate in the last rust created hole and then got on with stitching some more off the underside.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8070681.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8070680.jpg
although pugger did spend the whole time on the phone.
Lies i tell thee!!!! I was there to drop it down, walk it out and turn it round... :nod:
your doing well mate :) :thumbs:
I had a few bits and pieces still to weld and spent a bit of time cutting out my old home made battery tray and tidying up a few other bits inside of the car before i started painting. Got half way through before i realised i'd missed a few things so got the welder back out again before finishing of painting the floor pan.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8080681.jpg
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http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8080684.jpg
Got a few bits and pieces to do before i paint the rear of the car and i want to put it upright and do all the engine bay work before I paint the front section.
You have done some major welding, very nice work indeed. What did you use to paint the underneath i.e what kind of paint and painting tool (brush or gun)
You have done some major welding, very nice work indeed. What did you use to paint the underneath i.e what kind of paint and painting tool (brush or gun)
Its all on the previous page mate. :)
not much of an update but thats it all painted now, two coats as well so should be nice and tough. just need to sit her down and do the engine bay then i can start doing fun stuff like putting the big jigsaw back together. :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8090689.jpg
coming along nicely that... top work...
Good luck with the puzzle...
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P6290859.jpg
That's exactly where mine has gone... just starting to sort it out, might cut a square hole too as cutting the exact template is a pain in the ar$e...
That's exactly where mine has gone... just starting to sort it out, might cut a square hole too as cutting the exact template is a pain in the ar$e...
Yeah your better cutting a plate to cover the hole by a good margin for strength, it'll just blows holes through the metal if you try and sit a plate the same size as the hole. That'll be getting plated from the inside aswell to tidy it up.
Been pretty busy of late fixing other peoples cars to bring in some money to buy more parts so nothing's been done for a while. Got the s14 dragged through to the workshop and dropped out the rear subframe.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8230697.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8230698.jpg
Came out relatively easy considering the rust that was covering everything. After that i got on to stripping it down, this was some what of a more time consuming task and even with my 5ft breaker bar it took forever to get some of the arms off. I also snapped the two bolts that hold the camber arms to the subframe so will need to get some new ones.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8240699.jpg
There was an awful lot of rust all over the subframe, especially around all the joints and i had my doubts as to wether it was really up to the job or not but after cleaning it up a bit it seems ok.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8240700.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8240705.jpg
I put it onto the john deere to have a look how far off the alignment is and after taking lots of measurements between the 2 cars and the two subframes im stuck somewhere between 4-5mm difference for the hole centers that need drilled on my alloy bushes so I'll need puggers assistance one night in order to get the measurements spot on.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8240706.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P8240708.jpg
Once the bushes are cut i'll give it a trial fit and then get it sent away for painting. I think white will be the colour of choice for this one. :)
Been a bit quiet of late as i've been busy with other things but i got a bit done sunday afternoon. Pugger came up the other week to help with taking measurements for adjusting the bushes but they were pretty inconclusive so I ended up using a set that skyshack had posted a while back taken from the manuals. So the bushes are away at a mates work having the hole centers moved and in the mean time i got on with removing the bushes from the s14 subframe.
Bit of flamage :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/07092008031.jpg
Bushes removed
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/07092008032.jpg
Lastly i've had another delivery turn up so if i have time that should give me something to do this weekend.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/07092008033.jpg
Decided not to spray the underside but instead to get on with the engine bay so a few lads from work came down on saturday to see what I'd been up to recently and give me a hand so the first order of the day was to give the s14 a 4 stud rear end so i could get it mobile again.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P9140720.jpg
After that we dropped the john deere back down again and amongst the other stuff we had to do that was all there was time for on the saturday.
I got started this afternoon on the engine bay. First off the strengthening panels on the strut tops had to go so i could get to the rust underneath. I drilled out the spot welds and removed the panels, the spot welds were then smoothed back and the rust cleaned out before treating it with metal ready to kill off what was left due to the pitting.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P9140712.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P9140709.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P9140710.jpg
The battery tray was a mess so that was removed aswell and the area remaining will get cut out and a new plate put in its place. I was originally going to build an air scoop here and sit the oil cooler above it but i decide that it would be easier to sit all my electrics here and mount the oil cooler elsewhere so it'll just be the air filter getting an air scoop.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P9140713.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P9140716.jpg
As i have no cutting discs left fabrication will have to wait till another day so i got on with cleaning up the bay ready for welding and painting. Whilst i was cleaning things back i decided the two brackets on the passenger side had to go as they were untidy so they were drilled out and removed aswell.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P9140711.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P9140717.jpg
Hopefully i can get next weekend to myself and i'll be able to get the welding done and start thinking about getting it painted.
Hopefully they'll be a nice intresting update for you all tonight assuming I can get a new length of hose for my gas bottle so in the mean time something i should have done ages ago. :D
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA040798.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA040802.jpg
Needs Spacers :nod: ;)
Be up in a bit to se your Progress on the interesting bit :D
Fake Ben Taylor
05-10-2008, 09:42
looking good lads :thumbs:
looking good lads :thumbs:
TBH mate ive notdone anything to the car as such.. bits here and there.. ive been busy...
its all Dunkz work :nod: :clap:
thehats13
05-10-2008, 11:04
looking good buddy mycar wontidle to think iive been sold a duff afm as if i unplug it everyting is fine lol gutted
After a conversation at work on thursday with one of the young lads who I now have completely obsessed with 200's he was looking through the latest banzai and asking me why I don't do with my engine bay something someone else had done. I explained to him that It had crossed my mind but I had dissmissed the idea several months ago as I thought it would be beyond me but with my new found welding skills I started to think it wouldnt be such a bad idea so I sent him off to find me some suitable carboard to use as templates. Well he failed at that misserably but luckily pugger came to the rescue on friday with some thick paper so saturday afternoon I put my plan into action. The pictures will reveal all. :)
To begin with some templates were made.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA040796.jpg
I couldnt really get the templates right with the arches still in place so i decided to just go for it and chop out my arches so there was no going back. :rolleyes:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA040795.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA040800.jpg
From there it was much easier to come up with a design and i made everything slightly over size to compensate for any errors and then i could just chop out what I didn't need from the edges later. First part to be tacked in place was the main arch work.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA040797.jpg
At this point i ran out of gas for the welder which was a fairly new bottle so after a bit of investigating I found a large but strangely quiet leak in the pipe from the gas bottle to the welder so after failing to sort that i cracked on with getting the other arch ready to weld and then left it at that for the day.
very very nice work :thumbs:
I went along to the local caravan site for some more gas this morning and managed to get another length of pipe as well so I could crack on. I would have been a bit gutted if I had only managed that small amount.
I thought i would work on with the drivers side and build them at that same time but this side was a lot harder to tack in place due to my less accurate cutting of the inner wing. I had made up some intresting methods of holding the plates in, having some proper clamps would be really useful.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA050813.jpg
Luckily pugger swung past for half an hour so i got him to tack the last few bits whilst i held the arch in the correct position. I then sent him packing so he couldn't steal any credit :D:wave: and cracked on with welding both sides in place a bit more firmly. A template was then adjusted to suit the first side panel which was cut out of my dwindling supply of metal and again tacked in place.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA040799.jpg
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http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA050814.jpg
The same was done on the drivers side before blending the edges in to give a nice finish.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA050833.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA050823.jpg
The welding looks a bit of a mess in places but the welder i have is pretty poor for this sort of work. Some times it will weld really nicely but most of the time its nearly impossible.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA050835.jpg
A few completed pics for you.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA050831.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA050830.jpg
I still need to do a bit of work around the inner arches but apart from that I'm pleased with what i have accomplished as a few months ago it was well above me. :D
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA050829.jpg
what a grand idea that was of mine aboot the tubbed arches :p, the more i see the wheels the more i like them :nod: you still wanting a hand on sunday?
very very nice work :thumbs:
Cheers, you got in there before I'd finished updating though. :)
what a grand idea that was of mine aboot the tubbed arches , the more i see the wheels the more i like them you still wanting a hand on sunday?
Lol, the idea was already there as I'd mentioned it to fudi several months ago, its only cause I decided I was more capable now and with you mentioning it the other day made me decide that i should give it a bash. :) You can crash at mine after the track day if you want. I've got lots of little jobs that would be much easier with two people. Hopefully pugger can swing past so we can make a decision to the intercooler mounting and he can take it into work to get the necessary adjusments made. :thumbs:
i think you have just inspired me to do my own front tubbed arches too :) especially seing as tho my engine bay is basically in the same state as yours too lol.
just one question and the same question ive asked on driftworks but i want to see what answer i get over here,
question is, why just tub the front half of the inner arch, surely its pointless if your not going to do the rear half as it will just hit that anyway??
its always wondered me about this little job thats all.
zeppelin101
07-10-2008, 11:17
Assuming you're running huge positive caster, the wheel will sit much further forward in the arch, and huge caster is used quite a lot on drift cars to improve self aligning torque when on a wide angle drift, so giving the wheel more space to move around when it is pushed further forward prevents rubbing.
I could say something like the angle the wheel turns at means its not as necessary at the rear as it is the front but i'd just be making it up. If you wait a few weeks till i put my suspension on im gonna give it full lock with the springs out so the suspension is fully compressed and check my clearances from there and i'll be able to give you a definative answer. Maybe people just bash the rear's out a bit more. Its all just speculation though till i prove it otherwise but I thought I would just crack on and do it anyway as it looks good and im trying to build the car to cover all eventuallities. The more little problems I address now the less I'm gonna have to come back and change once the car is built.
Assuming you're running huge positive caster, the wheel will sit much further forward in the arch, and huge caster is used quite a lot on drift cars to improve self aligning torque when on a wide angle drift, so giving the wheel more space to move around when it is pushed further forward prevents rubbing.
lol, thats what my reply meant. I just never bothered explaining it properly. :D
zeppelin101
07-10-2008, 11:23
lol, thats what my reply meant. I just never bothered explaining it properly. :D
:P I bundled an extra degree of caster on my civic and now have arch rubbing problems lol I was doing some looking into it a while back as well, also helps if you're running a fudging huge rim if you got tubbed arches and some extra caster
hmm, starting to really look like a good idea, the DW guys said its better to have lots of castor when drifting, but what about track and road work, does it not have an adverse affect on general handling??
zeppelin101
07-10-2008, 15:16
Not really, it's worse if you don't have PAS as it gets to be a right bastard to turn on the spot when parking etc
It doesn't affect tire wear; well not on it's own but the extra cornering force you can potentially generate with less understeer and having a better idea of what the front is doing can lead to you munching tyres a bit more I guess.
It's exceedingly helpful I found, now my tyres are worn in I know precisely what is going on at the front and you tend to be able to find the "sweet spot" a little easier where you get max. self aligning torque where the tyre is generating almost all of its grip and not skating around as much
what sort of castor angle do you have ??
zeppelin101
07-10-2008, 18:11
The last readout I had was about 1.5 degrees each side.
It's not huge, I expect that Honda only cottoned onto the more caster is better idea later on.
You'll note that S14s run 5.5 degrees or so, expect a drifter to run a couple of degrees more than that I would expect.
Bearing in mind that my stock setup was 0.5 degrees or so (the driver side was 0.0 as adding a driver in changes the suspension dynamic) so an extra degree does make some considerable difference. I haven't any more space in the arch to put any more on and there's no point doing further modification to the lining or arch itself as I'm getting rid of it next year :)
I'd would probably say going from about 7 degrees as a base setting and working from there.
bit more work done today, could have done with the whole weekend really but I went to the trackday at crail.
I had one of the lads from work round so I set him off cutting the metal rings out of the subframe as I knew he'd enjoy such a fun job.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA120838.jpg
Whilst he did that I got on with doing something I've wanted to do for a long time. For those paying attention you may have noticed I'd chopped out the slam panel, this is so i can put in a stronger removable section that the intercooler and radiator will be mounted to. I used a length of inch box section and cut it down to tuck under the way the remains of the slam panel curl round. I drilled a few holes in it and bolted it in and it really strengthens up the front end, although probably not totally necessary. :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA120837.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA120839.jpg
It looked a bit of a mess where it slotted in and as i'd pretty much run out of steel i decide to just slice into what was there and then just bend it down and weld up the slices to neaten it up.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA120840.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA120841.jpg
After that I filled the holes in the top of the strut tops as there's really no need for them, just something else to start rusting away.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA120842.jpg
Last thing for the say was to patch a few of the large holes on the bulkhead as a lot of stuff wont be going back in so there's no need to have gaping holes through to the engine bay.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA120843.jpg
Pugger came round in the afternoon and we spent a long time discussing how to chop up my intercooler so we can mount it where i want it so he's taken that off to work and he's gonna sort that for me. Hopefully he'll get time to get it done pretty sharp so I can cut away from the front panels what i need to and finish off getting the bay ready for paint. :thumbs:
cheers for giving me such a grand job on the subframe dunkz :indiff: was better than you welding next to my head tho!
I got my new intercooler through the post the other week so with the front end made up I could give pugger the intercooler to make some adjustments.
He took it into work on monday and he's been working on it on his lunch breaks and here and there for any 5 minutes he can get. To start with he stuck it in a big scary looking machine.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/Photo-0005.jpg
And cut the ends off.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/Photo-0004.jpg
Then he chopped up some of these:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/Photo-0008.jpg
and did a bit of this:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/Photo-0015.jpg
To end up with something looking a little something like this:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/Photo-0016.jpg
We then nipped up to mine last night to see how it would fit, unfortunately making something without the car anywhere near isn't the easiest thing so they're gonna need extending slightly and turned to point further backwards.
Danny's taken it back to work to make some more adjustments, once thats done i can cut away the front panel and prep them for paint along with the rest of the engine bay and leave danny to finish of the IC.
Pretty much finished off all the engine bay welding today, just got to plate up the ends of the lower cross member and wait for my intercooler to arrive to chop up the front end a little bit. Tomorrow I'm gonna get started on filling and sanding, that'll be a fun job. :(
Anyway, enough ramblimg, more pics. :)
Replaced that horrid battery tray.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA180846.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA200847.jpg
I then put an air scoop in on the filter side to allow for some flow of cold air. I didn't want to make it as big as the one we put in puggers car so it was less likely to scoop up water. (not that puggers does that)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA200849.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA200848.jpg
After that i finished off the rest of the welding on the tubbed arches and stitch welded the strut tops. Then painted everything in por-15. That was until i got to the passenger side and realised that somehow i'd missed some rust, god knows how as i cleaned everything up with a wire brush wheel on a grinder, i blame it on poor lighting. :D Didn't want to start on it with fresh paint everywhere so just went round it and i'll replace it tomorrow.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA200851.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA200853.jpg
First thing today was fix that little rusty bit in the passenger side arch although what started as a little rusty bit soon appeared to be a lot more, can't say im suprised to be honest. :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA210854.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA210855.jpg
hardly pretty but it'll do the job, welded from the inside of the bay aswell. ( I did that a bit neater) :)
I got on with smoothing in the arches after that, what a crap job filling and sanding is, I'd gone grey by the end of the day. Still a lot to do but hopefully I'll be ready for paint by tomorrow night, or I'm hoping so cause i'm really sick of sanding. :D
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA210856.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA210859.jpg
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Pugger brough me back the intercooler with the changes made yesterday so I got on with mounting it up. Never being one to measure things too accurately I guesstimated the positiong of where the pipes would go through the front panel and whiped out my trusty hole saw. After snapping about 6 drill bits and puching myself in the side 6 times the hole saw had gone blunt so i finished it off with a hacksaw blade. With it pretty much sitting perfectly throught the holes i made up so mounts for the slam panel and put it all together. Just a bit of finishing on the holes through the front panel and it'll be finally ready for paint. :D
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA240875.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA240870.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PA240876.jpg
Right then, I finally feel like I'm starting to get somewhere. I made up the end plates for the front cross member and got them welded in and after something gaz_moose mentioned about his cross member breaking free I also decided to stitch the gusseting to the chassis rails.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB010881.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB010880.jpg
I took a drive through to machine mart first thing this morning as well to purchase my self a new toy. I needed it to get in and about all the rust that had eaten through where two panels joined together beside the holes I had cut for the inter cooler pipe work.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB010878.jpg
I also picked up a compressor and a space heater from one of my mates and spent most of the day tidying up the holes for the intercooler and replacing the rust around there.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB010877.jpg
By tea time I had finished cleaning up the engine bay and my mate came round to give me a hand making it look like this.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB010888.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB010887.jpg
Its been put on particularly thick with severl coats to take away the marks from sanding it with quite course paper so it's gonna take a while to try, I blasted either side for an hour each with the space heater to help so I'll probably come home one night during the week to give it a light flatting back and then we can give it a blast with the chosen colour. :D
Thats her painted, came back down the road after work tonight and flatted back the main areas that had a large surface area like the new arches and the strut tops, the rest of the primer was just left as it came out the gun. The photos look a bit yellow but thats just my crappy camera, I can assure you it is a nice bright white. :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB030894.jpg
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Corey_XR4I
03-11-2008, 20:37
Hey dunkz dude,
as ive said on Driftworks awsome work m8, and also like i said you will be getting some messages soon but now you can look forward to even more as ive got myself a 200sx same as yours (ithink) and decided that im going to full resto it and bring it to its former glory
Corey
Holy $hit!!!!
Going well dude!!! Best hope you dont get an oil leak :wack:
Hey dunkz dude,
as ive said on Driftworks awsome work m8, and also like i said you will be getting some messages soon but now you can look forward to even more as ive got myself a 200sx same as yours (ithink) and decided that im going to full resto it and bring it to its former glory
Corey
Cheers dude, good to see your gonna do a restoration job. I hate that so many get scrapped due to a little bit of rust, it wont be long before we run out so the more people willing to restore them the better. Good luck with your project and fire away with any questions, I'll be only too happy to help.
Holy $hit!!!!
Going well dude!!! Best hope you dont get an oil leak :wack:
Ha ha, bet you didnt think I was going to have it painted by yesterday, unless I told you! :) Got a little bit of welding to do friday night and then gonna need a few hands on saturday to put her up on its side and spray my stone chip before i take the compressor back if your floating about for half an hour. Lake's will be too frozen to fish so you have no excuse. :D
ill be free sat if you want
looking awesome mate i cant wait to see it on the road. Doesnt look like it will be all that far away now eh?
I hate that so many get scrapped due to a little bit of rust, it wont be long before we run out so the more people willing to restore them the better.
Not if i have have anything to do with it we wont ;)
Cheers lads, you two clearly weren't working very hard friday afternoon. Good man mick, lets hope you keep em coming. :thumbs:
So, pugger made a guest appearance saturday afternoon to give me a hand putting the shell back on it's side and masking everything up. We also grabbed one of my bucket seats back out of his car so I could test fit it to see if im gonna have clearance for a fabricage, due my rediculously long legs I sit really far back so things might be a bit tight.
Anyway, only 2 pics this time and there pretty similar to ones before hand but i spent friday night and a few hours saturday morning finishing off all the welding inside the car so that it wouldn't melt through my finish under the car at a later date, it was then tipped up and masked and the underside sprayed with several litres of stone chip.
Before:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB080909.jpg
After:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB080910.jpg
Looking good. :nod:
The only thing I'd say is: As much of a fan of composites as I am, I'm not sure about papier-mache for the under floor. Newspaper is very cheap, but wouldn't some GRP, ply or ally be better? :wack: :D
Looking good. :nod:
The only thing I'd say is: As much of a fan of composites as I am, I'm not sure about papier-mache for the under floor. Newspaper is very cheap, but wouldn't some GRP, ply or ally be better? :wack: :D
It had crossed my mind but my little sister wanted to be useful and i didn't fancy letting her touch the power tools so papier-mache was the best alternative. :D
Cheers dude. :thumbs:
I didnt get a huge amount done today as I was working in the dark pretty much all afternoon as one of my mates had his pug in the garage and using my wander lamp. In fact the only thing i did get done properly was to strip the 14's interior and get the dash adjusted to fit in the s13. I think the pictures were taken before it was fully bolted in so looks a bit squint but you get the idea. :D
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB150914.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB150915.jpg
I really could of done with another pair of hands today, had a nightmare dropping the front suspension out the 14. I managed to bend my 5ft grolly bar trying to get the bolts undone and all I succeded in doing was snapping the captive brackets at the top so after f**king about for about for what seemed like all day i got the grinder out and cut the f**kers off. Grinders and big hammers are so good for stress relief. :D
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB160921.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB160920.jpg
Halfway through removing that I got fairly pissed off so i went and pulled my front coilovers apart and gave them a good clean. The bottom hub brackets were ceased so i removed them completely from the shock body and cleaned them up before re-assembling them all. They look like new now so I got them bolted in. Also put my clutch master cylinder back in and the wiper motor.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB160927.jpg
After that I got the s14's suspension out and powered washed all the dirt and grease off it and gave it a liberal coating of wd40 then bolted her in place.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB160929.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB160930.jpg
After doing that I had to go and grab the wheels and one of the front wings to see how she would look. :D I must add the these pictures really dont do it justice as to how good it looks. :nod:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB160938.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB160935.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB160934.jpg
The amount of lock is pretty poor so thats gonna need some attention but im glad I built the arches as I would never of fitted the wheels in otherwise.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB160937.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB160945.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB160943.jpg
And with a bit of camber and some slightly narrower tyres they should tuck in quite nicely once she's lowered right down.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB160947.jpg
sweet project maaaateeee ;D
just a quick question.. did you apply the POR 15 with a brush directly to the bare metal then applied the primer... flatted that back.. primed.. flatted (going up in grades) etc then applied the final colored coat(s)??
Any info would be much appreciated ;D
ba.
Looking good sir :thumbs:
Cheers sam, im starting to get all excited as i can get an idea of how its gonna look. :D
Goddaz: the engine bay wasn't por-15'd, i just used a high build etch primer and all the rust was removed and replaced before hand, anything left was just surface rust that was cleaned up with a wire brush wheel on the grinder or die grinder, after the primer the large areas were just given a light flat back with some sandpaper and then sprayed white, probably about 10 minutes of sanding smooth. The por-15 was only used under the car and it was painted on with a brush, however it can be thinned down and sprayed on if you wish. All the info you need about it should be on here really: www.frost.co.uk. :thumbs:
Fake Ben Taylor
17-11-2008, 08:09
looking good dunkz :thumbs:
looking good dunkz :thumbs:
cheers dude, not seen any pics of your car for a while, when we gonna see a decent update?
Been following this one, amazing work! How long do you think it will take until it's finished?
Fake Ben Taylor
17-11-2008, 12:48
cheers dude, not seen any pics of your car for a while, when we gonna see a decent update?
when i do some decent work :wack:
struggling with weather and lack of space to work round the car :(
also cant upload pics currently :(
when i do some decent work :wack:
struggling with weather and lack of space to work round the car :(
also cant upload pics currently :(
All im hearing are excuses. :p just put some sandbags down to block the water around the car. :)
Been following this one, amazing work! How long do you think it will take until it's finished?
Cheers mate, I'd like to have her done by march so that when i get my first offshore paycheck in i'll be able to get her rolling but sadly due to funds i think it will take a lot longer. Its just all the little bits I have to buy that all add up like bits of silicon and brake hoses and fuel lines and blah blah blah. I'm probably looking at about 1k to finish her off and when i have less than £100 a month to spend it means it may take longer. Donations gladly accepted though :thumbs: You not going to the meet on thursday?
Fake Ben Taylor
17-11-2008, 13:01
excuses my arse...its so close to the car next to it i can only open the drivers side door an inch :wack: then its up agaisnt the wall at the back :(
and i cant move it as its surrounded by scaffolding as my dad gets a new roof on the house :rolleyes:
excuses my arse...its so close to the car next to it i can only open the drivers side door an inch :wack: then its up agaisnt the wall at the back :(
and i cant move it as its surrounded by scaffolding as my dad gets a new roof on the house :rolleyes:
wow, that was three excuses in a row there. :whip::D So when do you think you'll be able to start working on it again.
Fake Ben Taylor
17-11-2008, 13:12
keep doing little bits.....mostly on the inside at the minute :)
moved out now too to my own house but the drive their is steeeeeeeep so cant leave the 200 there so its gotta stay at my dads for now. :(
oh look another excuse :wack:
wow, that was three excuses in a row there. :whip::D So when do you think you'll be able to start working on it again.
He's having a moan on every other project thread, I think...... ;):p
you could sew yourself up some new door cards aswell as your shift boot whilst your waiting and get the inside looking nice and pretty. :) I think i may have to see if i can find a cheap space heater as its already absolutely freezing in my garage and the work rate is gonna drop pretty severly in the colder months. Lets hope you get some space sorted soon so you can get stuck in. :thumbs:
He's having a moan on every other project thread, I think...... ;):p
I think he must be looking for sympathy. :)
Fake Ben Taylor
17-11-2008, 13:17
shut it you!! big bully :cry:
he asked :wack:and ive got nothing better to do at work :wack:
dunkz: need to find the meterial first lol may settle for camo at this rate :nod: not sure what to do door card wise as ive had to cut them up for the cage so im tempted to remove them and put in some flat ally as a door card......
ive got nothing to do at work either. you should get yourself on here. http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=380635 post #27 is the easy way. I was planning on using sheet ally but i could be tempted to use the just the top section of the s14 door cards if i can get it to fit to the dash.
here's another pic to break up all the random chit chat, and cause it looks cool. :D
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/16112008120.jpg
Fake Ben Taylor
17-11-2008, 13:50
you know the engine bay will never be as clean as it is now :wack:
and that chat thing just times out at work :(
Its alright, they'll always be someone about that hasn't got their car finished due to various excuses that can give it a good wipe down between track time for me. :D
I hated having a black engine bay as everything was so hard to see, the logical answer was to go the complete opposite plus it matches the rest of the cars colour scheme.
I must admit, I was all set to do the car in black, as it's cheap an matches all kinds of things, but I'm seriously thinking of white everything now.
I'd go for white, its a much cleaner look. Black makes everything hard to make out. My bay is just painted with the typical ford white from any motor factors so yours would come out the same colour if you did it.
I'd go for white, its a much cleaner look. Black makes everything hard to make out. My bay is just painted with the typical ford white from any motor factors so yours would come out the same colour if you did it.
Cool :D
Although you realise what you've effectively said is "If you use the same paint as me, your car will be the same colour" :wack:
I'll be using rattle cans :smash: so probably Halfords white (in the big cans) :D Matt white???
Cheers mate, I'd like to have her done by march so that when i get my first offshore paycheck in i'll be able to get her rolling but sadly due to funds i think it will take a lot longer. Its just all the little bits I have to buy that all add up like bits of silicon and brake hoses and fuel lines and blah blah blah. I'm probably looking at about 1k to finish her off and when i have less than £100 a month to spend it means it may take longer. Donations gladly accepted though :thumbs: You not going to the meet on thursday?
Haha, I also accept donations :D Don't think I can make it on Thursday so I haven't put my name down, but I'm hoping to get to the next one.
I was chatting to jamie last night at the aberdeen monthly meet and he brought me the RR print out for the s14 i bought from him as my donor car. He also imformed me that the engine had much less mileage on it than i originally though. About 30k :eek:
Anyway, here's a copy of its last printout, this was running a full 3" exhaust, hks panel filter and a bren device. Everything else was standard.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/20112008128.jpg
weiner_patrol
21-11-2008, 12:16
oooh nice :D good luck with it all man :)
Nice, what boost was it running?
oooh nice :D good luck with it all man :)
cheers dude, I'll get you out for a passenger ride once she's done. :thumbs:
Nice, what boost was it running?
I have no idea, but its not got a chip so below whatever the fuel cut is set at on the s14 at least. Only differnce when it goes in mine will be the front mount and hopefully a stage 1 chip when i can afford it. Should be intresting to see what it will make next time. :nod:
midnight180
21-11-2008, 21:01
Ooooooh just found this:D Looking good:thumbs: Though my bay is definatly a different colour to yours, an i couldnt be arsed to tub the front up:wack:
I see what you mean about looking like were doing the same thing, Yeh pretty much exactly:eek:
Should be awsome though when your done:nod:
cheers dude, the similarity's are pretty uncanny. Lucky you didn't go white with your engine bay or we'd never tell them apart.
I started doing the wiring today but the garage was so cold I didn't really get very far. Took out the dash board loom from the s14 and roughly drapped it in place. After that i had a look at the column switch gear and decided to fit the s14 stuff to my car aswell but it mounts differently on the column. I had to cut the mounting bracket of the s14 column and weld it onto the s13 one in order to mount the switch gear.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB220949.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB220950.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB220951.jpg
After that I went in and warmed myself up and pulled my clocks apart, i wanted to set them back to zero to make life easier to keep a track on how much mileage I had covered.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB220963.jpg
Thats it for today, maybe tomorrow i'll man up and get some real work done. :D
After playing in the snow most of the morning I went up the garage and pulled the main engine bay loom out of the s14. I layed it all out on the garage floor and tagged all the connectors by writing on some white electrical tape. I tried a few different ideas about how to run the loom and running it through the wheel arches is no longer a possibility, instead i'm going to mount the main fuse box in the passenger footwell and split and extend the harnesses so that they can run down through the engine bay. Whilst im extending the wiring i'll also remove everything i dont need and swap the light connectors over to the s13's ones. The remaining 3 looms should only really require stripping of the un necessary components which shouldn't be as time consuming as this one will be.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB230954.jpg
whats the benefit of welding in the larger front arch bits.
Looks good by the way.
Jon
cheers dude, the tubbed arches have been discussed many times, its to allow wheel clearance on full locl when your running more than standard castor. :thumbs:
Ahhh didn't think of that, Had seen it on a few cars and wondered why.
Oh and btw you should keep it green/yellow too :D
cheers
Don't worry dude, she's definately staying green & yellow for the rest of my time owning her. The next one will have a new colour scheme though but thats staying a firm secret until its completed. :D
midnight180
26-11-2008, 20:54
:D Scary, yeh i done the column mod before taking my car apart about 7months ago, I also reset my clocks for exactly the same reason:nod:
Wiring is the one im not looking forward too, for the reason that its sooooo time consuming. Cold doesnt help either, warmer down my way though:wack:
Your definatly getting there:thumbs:
:D Scary, yeh i done the column mod before taking my car apart about 7months ago, I also reset my clocks for exactly the same reason:nod:
Wiring is the one im not looking forward too, for the reason that its sooooo time consuming. Cold doesnt help either, warmer down my way though:wack:
Your definatly getting there:thumbs:
Cheers dude, you on msn? Seems that we have so many conflicting things happening might be worth having a chat about it to make each others life's easier. I've sat this week working out all my wiring in my head so quite looking forward to it. :)
midnight180
28-11-2008, 17:10
Sorry, not on msn. my pc`s proper poo. Normally just chat by pm on here to be honest as my mates all have S bodies too:wack:
Sorry, not on msn. my pc`s proper poo. Normally just chat by pm on here to be honest as my mates all have S bodies too:wack:
Are you doing the same as me by putting the s14 loom in? I went through all the wiring diagrams and worked out what I needed to do to make it suit was hoping to have most of it done by today but unfortunately the cold got the better of me on two occasions.
My soldering iron wasn't powerfull enough to do anything in the -1 temperature on saturday so i went up to aberdeen for the rolling road day and went in to maplins and got myself a nice 50w iron.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB300958.jpg
On sunday it was fecking cold as well and it just killed all my motivation. I had two temperature sensors come through the post that i was planning on using for air charge temps but unfortunately they have a sample time of once per minute so it would appear they're completely useless apart from telling me garage temperatures. :(
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB300957.jpg
I'm trying to find a space heater so i can get stuck in again otherwise the weather is really gonna hamper my progress as it continues to get colder.
i made the mistake of buying that temp sensor for my charge temps, :(
how much was that soldering iron by the way, i need something decent too,
i know what you mean about the cold, i couldnt feel my fingers trying to make my loom the other day outside,
i made the mistake of buying that temp sensor for my charge temps, :(
how much was that soldering iron by the way, i need something decent too,
i know what you mean about the cold, i couldnt feel my fingers trying to make my loom the other day outside,
Its £10 just now from maplins, reduced from £30, baragin. :) I didn't really want to do my loom in the cold as i know how easy it is to make a mistake when your not thinking clearly and i want it right first time, really can't be arsed chasing down a fault that i've made myself.
midnight180
01-12-2008, 17:34
Are you doing the same as me by putting the s14 loom in? I went through all the wiring diagrams and worked out what I needed to do to make it suit.
:nod: Yep, the whole lot, ive figured there should not be a lot to sort, hopefully, though i havnt started on the loom yet. next couple weeks hopefully, just getting the dash to fit first. The only bit that i reckon could be a pain is the fuel level sender!!!
Anth4130
03-12-2008, 17:00
After playing in the snow most of the morning I went up the garage and pulled the main engine bay loom out of the s14. I layed it all out on the garage floor and tagged all the connectors by writing on some white electrical tape. I tried a few different ideas about how to run the loom and running it through the wheel arches is no longer a possibility, instead i'm going to mount the main fuse box in the passenger footwell and split and extend the harnesses so that they can run down through the engine bay. Whilst im extending the wiring i'll also remove everything i dont need and swap the light connectors over to the s13's ones. The remaining 3 looms should only really require stripping of the un necessary components which shouldn't be as time consuming as this one will be.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PB230954.jpg
I'm glad I'm not the only one to be crazy enough to do this :wack:
:thumbs:
I'm glad I'm not the only one to be crazy enough to do this :wack:
:thumbs:
lol, its good fun being slightly off your rocker. :D
It looks even worse when you have a 14 loom and a s13 loom sat next to each other, by the time i had them both laid out there's was nowhere to move in my garage.
So I got a few hours to start on the front loom from the fusebox on saturday, most of that was spent removing un-wanted wiring and trying to work out which wires on the s14 loom I had to convert to plug into the s13 lighting system so that i could retain the plug and play of the nissan connectors.
Everything on the right hand side is what is getting removed and everything on the left hand side is what will be remaining. :D
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PC080968.jpg
All the wiring for the lighting etc will be getting run through this channel as it can no longer follow its original routing due to my arches, this way it will be tucked up out of site and keep it nice and neat. :nod:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PC080966.jpg
Fake Ben Taylor
08-12-2008, 22:14
that engine bay is far too shiny :p
that engine bay is far too shiny :p
And at the rate im getting things done at the moment it'll probably be staying that way as well.
:notworthy
Thats some awsome work you're doing there dunkz, I had enough bother just trying to untangle my alram from an s14 loom, let alone splice s13 lighting plugs onto it aswell...
Are you keeping the pop ups or going sil80??
:notworthy
Thats some awsome work you're doing there dunkz, I had enough bother just trying to untangle my alram from an s14 loom, let alone splice s13 lighting plugs onto it aswell...
Are you keeping the pop ups or going sil80??
The lighting setup will be revealed in due course, Due to the intercooler location I won't be able to run the pop-ups anymore :( however they will be moddified and bolted in permanently open until the new setup is completed. :thumbs:
The lighting setup will be revealed in due course, Due to the intercooler location I won't be able to run the pop-ups anymore :( however they will be moddified and bolted in permanently open until the new setup is completed. :thumbs:
Ooh - very interested in what you're going to do! I have a similar issue, in that I am using a GRP replica of an S13 shell, but will not be able to use pop ups for the SVA (too pointy :eek:), and need to come up with something elegant and aerodynamic
Ooh - very interested in what you're going to do! I have a similar issue, in that I am using a GRP replica of an S13 shell, but will not be able to use pop ups for the SVA (too pointy :eek:), and need to come up with something elegant and aerodynamic
Your making a GRP replica of an s13!!! :eek: I'll need to look out for that :wack::D Hope the lighting info I sent you is useful. :thumbs:
Got some wiring done this afternoon, I stripped the whole loom down and removed all the abs and air con wiring, still plenty to come out of it though. I spent a long time un-tangling the loom and re-positioning bits and pieces to make my life easier and then routed it in its correct position.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PC130972.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PC130976.jpg
I finished off the passenger side headlight, side lights and indicator wiring and then chopped the motor off the headlight so it could clear the intercooler. I'm just gonna weld in a bar to leave them permanently open for the time being.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PC130973.jpg
After that I chopped up and re-routed some of the engine bay wiring.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PC130975.jpg
Left to do now is sort the drivers side headlight wiring and then i'm also gonna run some additional wiring from the fog lamps which I can use for something in the future should i need it. Then i'll need to sort out some power cabling to the engine bay. Everything else from the s14 should hopefully just drop right in.
Your making a GRP replica of an s13!!! :eek: I'll need to look out for that :wack::D Hope the lighting info I sent you is useful. :thumbs:
The info was very useful :nod: :) Thanks!
Oh, and after looking at a few things on the net today, I'm seriously considering using a Carbon weave and not painting it.
dougal200
17-12-2008, 13:49
good effort
im sorry to say i havent looked at your thread before. its been a great read to see someone else who is prepared to tackle the rust. its strange to see some of the similarities between our two projects.
interesting to see the arch tubing. i have done similar but it was not to produce more space, infact there is no more space under my arches than std.
i wont be doing any drifting but i will be running the car quite low but should have about a +10 offset so may get away with it.
keep up the good work
Great :thumbs: love the way you supported the car to sort the chassis out :thumbs:
good effort
im sorry to say i havent looked at your thread before. its been a great read to see someone else who is prepared to tackle the rust. its strange to see some of the similarities between our two projects.
keep up the good work
Cheers dude, just had a look through your project thread as i'd not really looked since just after you'd got started. Looks like its really coming along now. As you said, good to see another one fighting off the rust, problem is for every person willing to save a shell there's another 10 ready to scrap em. :( Good luck with the rest of your build and i'll be keeping an eye on it from now on. :thumbs:
Great love the way you supported the car to sort the chassis out
Cheers dude, quite glad it worked out so well. The tyres didn't even mark the paintwork. :D
I spent a few hours this afternoon cleaning the layers of rust off my rear subframe and cutting the metal collars out that were left from the original bushes. I gave it a coat of por-15 along with a few other parts and tomorrow i'll get some colour on them. I need to get the rear subframe ready to go back on as I have recieved some solid alloy bushes that I've had made up. Just need to get the hole's drilled in the correct place and then hopefully everything will go together nicely. After all that lot was left to dry I started chopping away at the main engine harness, loads of abs wiring going through that that'll no longer be required.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PC280992.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/28122008157.jpg
OOOoooo bushes, make sure you remember to PM me about them once they're made!
I'll be after a set so don't fit them without measuring them up!
Great work btw :D
Evilchap
30-12-2008, 21:28
Just a thought here...
But going to all that trouble with the loom, are you not tempted to use all new wire, maybe tinned, so as to make it really last?
Label each wire as it goes in, and you'll have something easy to work on, and very easy to solder if you go with tinned wire ;)
love how smooth your arches look, wanna do somthing similar on mine if i can afford to take it off the road for a bit
Subframe is now white, needs another coat though.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/29122008159.jpg
The front end wiring has taken me far longer than I expected to sort it all out, hopefully I think it's right now although I have a sneaky suspicion i've removed something I shouldn't have, we'll find out soon enough. :D The main fusebox in the engine bay of the 14 is huge, by the time I'd removed everything I didn't want there was a complete block I didn't need so Instead of sorting a new box for the remaining blocks I took the hack saw to the fuse box case and made it a more appropriate size. :) Also I'll be roughly mounting it where pictured accept a bit lower but i'll stick the dash back in to mock up the mounts so it's as accessible as possible.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PC300993.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/PC300995.jpg
The wiring now left in the engine bay is the same on either side, pictured on the right is main and dipped beam, next to that is side lights and indicators, the yellow & black underneath is a spare main beam, the group of red wires are for fog lights or anything else I fancy wiring into that switch and the single black one is for the horn.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/30122008161.jpg
I've started putting in all the loom that originally ran behind the dash, I wish I had eyed it up before making the first loom as the fuse boxes that sits next to the throttle peddle take up a lot more space than the s13 ones did and I have to keep adjusting my previous loom trying to get it all to fit properly.
Good project dude,your engine bay looks mint:thumbs:
Good project dude,your engine bay looks mint:thumbs:
cheers dude, its gonna be fun trying to keep it that way.
I started putting some more looms in finally, first in was the loom the runs behind the dash which holds the connectors for bringing the front and rear looms together and the fuse box that sits in the drivers footwell. I haven't mounted the fusebox or connectors yet as they are somewhat larger than the space available so I'll need to do some adjusting. I then put in the engine harness after modifying it the other day so all the engine bay wiring is now in.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P1010997.jpg
With those two looms in I decided to throw the dash back in to make sure it would still sit nicely. Had to make a few minor adjustments to get the clocks in that I hadn't considered the first time but thats sorted now. I also dug out my old dash plate that pugger cut for me and found with a few adjustments it sat better than it used to in the s13 dash so I made up some brackets and mounted that. Gonna go order some battery cable shortly so I can wire up the cut off switch and connect up my battery to make sure everything is working.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P1021002.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P1021005.jpg
midnight180
02-01-2009, 21:55
Its looking good:D How is yours still shiny? Mines covered in dust after 10 days of not moving it:confused:
You tried fitting the bushes yet?
You using solid diff bushes??
Its looking good:D How is yours still shiny? Mines covered in dust after 10 days of not moving it:confused:
You tried fitting the bushes yet?
You using solid diff bushes??
My camera isn't good enough to pick up the dust. ;)
Bushes are away being milled out just now. Hopefully I'll have em for next weekend as I could really do with getting it back on its wheels.
My plan for the weekend was to get the car back on all four wheels finally, unfortunately my mate that was drilling the holes in my bushes managed to leave them at work on Friday. Luckily he managed to get the keys yesterday afternoon so armed with my new bushes and a hand from one of the lads at my work we cracked on and got the subframe mounted up. This is something I’ve wanted to get done for a long time so I’m over the moon it’s finally back on its wheels.
There’s no camber arms fitted on the drivers side as I put an s13 on the left and an s14 arm on the right to see which one I would require, the answer is s13 so the driver’s side is sat without one for now. Once my new camber arms turn up for next weekend it'll pull the wheel out a lot better and i'll get a better idea of how much I'm gonna have to roll the arches. Lots hopefully. :D
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P1111019.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P1111017.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/11012009165.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/11012009166.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/11012009376.jpg
Quite a milestone for you then! Must feel good :) I remember getting wheels on my project :thumbs:
Quite a milestone for you then! Must feel good :) I remember getting wheels on my project :thumbs:
Indeed it was, the problem was getting custom bushes made as none of my mates were really up for it and puggers work was far too busy lately for him to be doing jobs for me but luckily a fine upstanding member of the sxoc came to my rescue recently otherwise It could have been a lot longer before I was rolling again. :D
Deep Blue
12-01-2009, 13:35
Looking good fella, I really like the wheels!
Bet you are looking forward to driving that thing again!
Looking good fella, I really like the wheels!
Bet you are looking forward to driving that thing again!
I'm absolutely gagging to drive it again but unfortunately its still a long way off. :(
small update: Had some new parts delivered yesterday. :D
First off my new fabricage that my wonderful girlfriend bought me for christmas. :smitten:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/14012009167.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/14012009168.jpg
Also had my rad turn up and everything else I need to finish off the battery side of my wiring so I can get on and get it tested to see If i've made a big mistake somewhere. :nod:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/14012009169.jpg
weiner_patrol
15-01-2009, 07:12
mmmm some nice parts turning up :D
mestew87
15-01-2009, 10:55
the cage looks like a good bit of kit, is it a bolt in job or are you going to weld the cage in place
mmmm some nice parts turning up :D
Indeed, I've got money saved up to buy some more stuff, was originally gonna get some camber arms but I can always put the standard ones on for the time being and get some engine mounts. Was thinking about these from across the pond if anyone has any experience with them? http://www.ugpracing.com/motormounts.htm
Its either that or its my birthday next week so hopefully i'll get some money of a few people and I can buy myself a compressor. Really can't decide what to do??? :(
the cage looks like a good bit of kit, is it a bolt in job or are you going to weld the cage in place
Its just bolt in, I have 6 floor plates that need welded up and then the cage bolts to that. Got some welding to do for a mate first though so might be a while before i get any more done to the john deere now. :(
seanos13
17-01-2009, 09:37
:sxoc: looking good matey hows the new nissan :thumbs:
cheers mate, she's good thanks. Just sat at mine waiting till I have some time to sort a few wee things. It may get a project thread soon as we have some plans for it. I'll let you know when we get started. :)
Right then, I've got so many different jobs on the go at the moment I thought I better get some of them finished or i'll end up forgetting about them. First thing I did was steal an s13 camber arm from my s14 to get the rear wheels sat right. Then I got on with getting the rear subframe bolted up properly. The hoop at the front of the 14 subframe that goes over the diff sits higher than on the 13 so it hits up against the transmission tunnel. If I had known this before I painted the car I would have bashed it out a bit, instead I just grollied the bolts up with a 2 meter length of exhaust pipe as a lever and prayed that the subframe pins didn't shear. :D Luckily they didnt and the subframe bent a nice hump in the tunnel allowing the subframe to sit tight in its new resting place.
After that I stripped off the front calipers as they were seized and gave the front tension rod brackets another coat of paint so they should be ready to fit next weekend and I'll be ready to move the car about a bit more freely.
With that done I couldn't really decide what to do next, so I chucked the cage in so I could have a look at where it was going to mount and what would be required.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/18012009174.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/18012009176.jpg
Its a pretty good fit and doesn't really impede getting in and out of the car as much as I thought. I started working on the rear mounting plates but found they were bent at some nasty angle's and my efforts to correct this resulting in complete failure so i've brough them into work to see if I can sort them here at some point.
Either end of the plates should be pretty much parrallel to each other. The end thats in my hand points up in the air instead of sitting flush with the floor.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/18012009177.jpg
So with my complete failure of fitting the cage I though I may as well chuck the engine back in so I can start working out what I need to make up to get things connected.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/18012009175.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/18012009173.jpg
Also a lad from stonehaven, ryans13 on here donated me a new bonnet yesterday so I should be able to get started on that shortly. :thumbs:
New200guy
24-01-2009, 19:14
that is money dude!!!!!
you can do mine next:D
that is money dude!!!!!
you can do mine next:D
What do you mean by "that is money?"
Funnily enough you can join the que, I have a list of people waiting for me to restore their shell. :nod:
thehats13
26-01-2009, 07:25
if you need another bonnet there is one at fudis help yourself bud and your getting there my thing is refusing to start and i need it oved by 1 today lol getting close to selling up now and getting an fc
if you need another bonnet there is one at fudis help yourself bud and your getting there my thing is refusing to start and i need it oved by 1 today lol getting close to selling up now and getting an fc
Its ok, ryan from stony gave me one. Why's it not starting? still fuel pump related? I know an nice blue fc for sale that needs a re-build just round the road from me.
lol, I did my back in a few weeks ago changing the head gasket on a 205 so can't do anything. I've tried several times and had to give up but I suppose I could chuck up a few pics of something i've acchieved, if you give me a few minutes i'll sort something out. Might be a good few weeks before I actually get anything real done though unfortunately. :(
As said above I can't really get anything major done but I've got some little un strenuous jobs done before I had to go adopt the horizontal position for another few hours.
I started running new brake lines around the car so the majority of that is done however I need to grab another t-piece to finish off the front ones.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/06022009183.jpg
Apart from that I've been trying to work out my boost pipes and I've started running my power wires from the alternator and the starter motor back into the car. I can't do much more in the engine bay until the boost pipes are made up so currently they're the main priority.
nothing looking much different here:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/08022009186.jpg
With all my spare time sitting around I decided to play with photoshop and make myself up a john deere so I can play around with graphics and various other bits should I want to change anything, and then I spent a lot of time brushing up on my virtual drifting. :D
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/jd3.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/wallrubbing.jpg
zeppelin101
09-02-2009, 22:50
rFactor there's something I haven't played in a while
Ahhh, that's better :)
I hope it was at least a 205 GTi ;) Car looks good , I'm liking the virtual John Deere too, do that :nod:
Its ok, ryan from stony gave me one. Why's it not starting? still fuel pump related? I know an nice blue fc for sale that needs a re-build just round the road from me.
do you mean chris davidsons FD?? if not then where ?
Good to see this starting to come back to life! IM now in the process of a strip and rebuild. Will need to pop by one night if thats allright and see the work you have put in for real, once your backs better ofcourse!
Cheers Aj
Ahhh, that's better :)
I hope it was at least a 205 GTi ;) Car looks good , I'm liking the virtual John Deere too, do that :nod:
Yup, 1.6 gti. Wouldnt be worth my effort otherwise. How do you mean "do that?" the virtual john deere is modelled on the real one. :confused:
do you mean chris davidsons FD?? if not then where ?
Aye, I meant chris's. Probably said fc by accident cause stuart had just said it.
Good to see this starting to come back to life! IM now in the process of a strip and rebuild. Will need to pop by one night if thats allright and see the work you have put in for real, once your backs better ofcourse!
Cheers Aj
cheers dude, Im usually round about the garage most weekends so just fire me a pm some time when you want to come round and I'll be about. :thumbs:
Spent a couple of hours reading all this Duncan.
some really nice and really labour intensive work there mate, esspecially all the under car stuff.:thumbs:
Noticed u saying about blowing holes when welding..... a tip i picked up from the migwelding forum, was to use a copper plate (i just flattened some 15mm copper tube) on the other side of the plate ur welding, works a treat:thumbs:
Few questions....
Why sr20?? thought ur engine was good????
Why kill the pop-ups?
why s14 dash and loom (well im assuming latter is for sr20) just for something differant or???
And finally s14 subframe, why?
White engine bay looks great, i done mine rattle can black 2 years ago, but it tends to peel back off cos i just sprayed it on top of whats there:wack:
Would i be wrong in assuming ur planning to sell this when ur done?
How do you mean "do that?" the virtual john deere is modelled on the real one. :confused:
Oh I mean the bumper and skirts look chunkier than the photos on the first page, and the vented bonnet is pretty cool.
Cheers kev, lots of questions there. :D
Spent a couple of hours reading all this Duncan.
some really nice and really labour intensive work there mate, esspecially all the under car stuff.:thumbs:
Noticed u saying about blowing holes when welding..... a tip i picked up from the migwelding forum, was to use a copper plate (i just flattened some 15mm copper tube) on the other side of the plate ur welding, works a treat:thumbs:
I'll have to give that a shot, sounds like a good idea. It got less of a problem as my welding improved but the thin metal on some places with these cars especially after the rust can be a nightmare as I'm sure you know.
Few questions....
Why sr20?? thought ur engine was good????
The engine was great, I loved driving it. It was easily the smoothest CA I'd driven but it was smoking a lot, scored bore on cylinder 1 from the dodgy ring (think i probably mentioned it once upon a time) and as the pistons were the largest sized wiseco's I assumed that boreing the block anymore wasn't going to happen. After a conversation with jamie about his knackered 14 shell with such a low mileage and great performing engine I thought it would be daft not too. The car will be just as quick with an essentially standard engine compared to how it was with a stage 3 ca so as much as it was a shame to lose another ca'd 13 I couldn't really resist.
Why kill the pop-ups?
why s14 dash and loom (well im assuming latter is for sr20) just for something differant or???
I quite like the s14 dash as it brings the interior nicely up to date, the loom went in because the car is pretty much an s14 with an s13 shell so I thought why not, plus I have a consult cable and it would be a shame to waste it. Without spending much time looking at what was required to fit s14 clocks to s13 looms and various other stuff and seeing as I was moving most of the loom inside I just decided I may as well make it s14 and my s13 loom wasn't the prettiest, Im sure you remeber my sudden loss of power at JAE. The popups aren't necessarily gone completely but I have a few other ideas I'd like to try first aswell. If the pop ups do come back they'll probably be similar in design to yours but at the moment my intercooler is taking up space for the motors.
And finally s14 subframe, why?
Just thought i'd do something different, I wanted to get the wider track on the car using the s14 running gear and I thought I would just use the complete running gear as opposed to just arms etc.
White engine bay looks great, i done mine rattle can black 2 years ago, but it tends to peel back off cos i just sprayed it on top of whats there:wack:
I did mine originally rattle canned black and I hated it, looked such a mess compared to the paintwork on the outside of the car so I thought I'd do it properly this time. The idea being that with a white engine bay its a lot easier to see what im doing as working in a black engine bay just hides all those dropped nuts and bolts, plus it ties in with the rest of my colours.
Would i be wrong in assuming ur planning to sell this when ur done?
You would be very wrong :D It'll be along time before I part with this car after all the work i've put in. Most of the reason I've done everything the hard way is because I've been training for this new job the past year and half making basically no money. If I had built it normally It would be finished by now and It would just be sat in the garage with me having no money to be able to use it, so far its not really cost me much to build, selling a few parts from the oringinal car has pretty much covered it as so far its really only been materials. It was also a project to see what I could be capable of and to try and teach myself some new skills. However I can't wait to get started on my next shell as I have a lot of ideas that I haven't been able to do to this one for various reasons. :nod:
Oh I mean the bumper and skirts look chunkier than the photos on the first page, and the vented bonnet is pretty cool.
I see what you mean, you may have noticed me mentioning about recieving another bonnet the other day, I have plans for that side of things. As for stick on bits of fiberglass that serve no real purpose then unless someone offers me some really really cheap good looking skirts then that won't be happening any time soon, although I probably will make it a bit chunkier looking eventually. :nod:
Didnt know the 14 subby made it wider:)
Good reasons mate, just thought u were selling cos u said something about... While u own it.... or something similar.
all good Duncan, keep up the excellent work mate:thumbs:
I tell u i could do with u and Danny instead of Kieran to help me :D
Didnt know the 14 subby made it wider:)
Good reasons mate, just thought u were selling cos u said something about... While u own it.... or something similar.
all good Duncan, keep up the excellent work mate:thumbs:
I tell u i could do with u and Danny instead of Kieran to help me :D
Sadly im more useless than Keerununun :(
Im spending most of my time at home with Baby D :)
Dont kid yourself Danny, u have access to cool equipment :notworthy
marcus23
28-02-2009, 14:51
any updates yet dunkz ?
My backs starting to get a lot better now and I have two and half weeks before I take my first trip offshore so there gonna be spent in the garage as of tomorrow so watch this space. :thumbs:
Thinkinggrenade
01-03-2009, 13:54
ok, been a bit quiet lately due to incredible amounts of homework and various other work needing carried out but i rallied the troops on saturday to give me a hand getting her up. I'll let the pictures do the talking here but danny nipped up during the week to weld the new front cross member in.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/P5030823.jpg
Do you remember what size that box section was? only, i have to do the same thing with mine - as one of the isle of man's various potholes decided to tear out the Bracket the holds in the Tension rod. (mainly because of the rot that had weakened the whole area.
Do you remember what size that box section was? only, i have to do the same thing with mine - as one of the isle of man's various potholes decided to tear out the Bracket the holds in the Tension rod. (mainly because of the rot that had weakened the whole area.
We used 2" box to do that although you will have to find a way to bolt your brackets back onto the underside if you do it this way, I believe nissan sell a replacement cross member though if you would like to keep it original. I should be sorting mine so they become bolt on once again in the next couple of days so I'll post up a discription of how I did it for you. :thumbs:
Finally got back onto the car again today after a bit of an absense and the first thing I got on with was more wiring that managed to end up taking all day.
First of all I mounted up my set of twin fans that I had purchased and ran some wiring to them, I'll need to go and dig out some spare 4 pin connectors so I can make them easily plug and play to finish them off.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/02032009215.jpg
After that I wired up my cut off switch so that when its turned it kills the ignition, kills power from the battery and opens a circuit to discharge the alternator feed.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/02032009216.jpg
From there I ran it back to a circuit breaker for the battery and mounted that inside my center consol.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/02032009217.jpg
From there it went onto the battery box which is now going to sit where the rear passenger seat would have been.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/02032009218.jpg
I then played around with the multimeter for a little while to make sure nothing was gonna go pop and then decided to connect the battery up and find out what was and wasn't working.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/02032009219.jpg
First signs of life in a good while. :D Unfortunately it seems I have made a mistake although how I managed it I dont know. The drivers side, side light appears to only work on full beam so I have lots of headlights and not many sidelights. First job tomorrow is go and sort that before I find any more problems. :cry::wack:
Good to see it coming along nicely mate, really need to get my ass in gear and come see it in the metal for myself!
Where did you get the fans from?
Cheers Aj
I just got the fans from someone in the for sale section.
I spent all morning pulling apart my lovely wiring that I had recently tidied up and covered with plastic protective sheiths, took me bloody ages to find the fault, iirc I had a red wire with a blue stripe connected where I should have had a red wire with a green stripe, not the easiest mistake to find, I ended up chopping god knows how many wires only to have to reconnect them again 5 minutes later. Still at least I have them all working now, need to go back and re-wrap all my looms though. :(
side lights and indicators working without any input from high beam :thumbs:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/03032009223.jpg
I spent all afternoon in town trying to get parts from a useless collection of parts shops and after several hours I only came home with 4 bleed nipples. :mad:
I tested the four front indicators and found that the passenger side wing mounted indicator glowed very faintly and that was about it. I was gonna start f**cking about trying to find out why as its part of the loom I never had to chop up as it comes from the main engine harness so I just cut the connector off and spliced it into the indicators for the front bumper.
After acheiving what seemed like very little I though I may as well make a bracket to support my fuse box so I got that mounted up and then called it a night.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/03032009224.jpg
weiner_patrol
04-03-2009, 10:21
keep going dude :) you car is looking good :D
marcus23
04-03-2009, 18:31
good to see the progress mate, whats the estimated finish date ?
keep going dude :) you car is looking good :D
Cheers dude, I bet your missing our daily chats now that I'm finished college. :D
good to see the progress mate, whats the estimated finish date ?
There's no finish date but the sooner I get it done the better really. Problem now is im getting to the point where I have to start spending money and currently I dont have any. :(
Got a little bit more done today, hopefully tomorrow I'll have a full day on it so I can really make some progress. I started off with the front cross member, I needed to get brackets attached for the front tension rods as trying to move it without them on is a nightmare. So it fitted the brackets and drilled some holes for the bolts to go through.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/04032009226.jpg
I then took the brackets off and cut around the holes I had just made then welded the nuts to the inside so I once again had something to bolt it to.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/04032009233.jpg
After that I welded the panels back into the crossmember and smoothed them off. Just need to touch up the paint on the brackets now then refit them, i left the ends unpainted originally as I was just gonna weld them back in place but I decided that was a bit too pikey.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/04032009234.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/04032009235.jpg
I then took the power steering resevior bracket and bent it about a bit until I could line it up with some holes round the other side of the turret although I think it may be sat a bit low now so I might have to reposition it. I might just test it out and if it needs moved then I can do it later.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/04032009237.jpg
I started off today with a nice lie in. :D After that I stripped the front tension rods off my original front arms. These have offset bushes in them so It will give me a bit more caster than fitting the standard ones. I gave them a good clean up and then a few coats of paint.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/05032009238.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/05032009239.jpg
I then made up the lower brackets to hold my intercooler in place and gave it a coat of por-15. The rest of my day was spent working on the maroon s13 pictured above, with that now mobile though I've moved it out my garage so my car can be sat in the middle and i'll have plenty of space to get around it. Once the por-15 was dry I gave the front end a touch up in white so it all matched again and called it a night.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/Rebuild/05032009241.jpg
So long as the Pas pipes not kinked and the lower outlet is higher than the pump inlet, u should be fine Duncan
weiner_patrol
06-03-2009, 08:47
Cheers dude, I bet your missing our daily chats now that I'm finished college. :D
lol totally :) let me know when you are around ;) would be nice to finally meet you at a meet or something. You coming down for the EDC at all?
weiner_patrol has been reduced to long monologues these days :)
weiner_patrol
06-03-2009, 14:55
very long monologues lol
At least your boss will be happy, he'll be wondering whats going on as your productivity will have gone through the roof. :D
Just had to send my pics to a mate to upload onto my photobucket as it wouldnt let me do it, what a pain in the arse.
Anway, I bolted the tension rods and brackets back up so I could move the car into the middle of the garage so I could whip the engine out but there was no way I was gonna get it to move on my own. Instead I jacked the front up and pulled off the front lower arms and hubs to give them a tidy up as they were a rotten mess. A rather blurry before and after shot for you.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/06032009247.jpg
I didn't want to split the hubs from the lower arms as I knew the balljoints wouldnt take that sort of abuse and there's no way I can afford a new pair just now so I left them attached to clean and paint and I'll change them at a later date. I also cleaned and painted a set or rear carriers I had spare so it'll save time when I come to do the rear.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/06032009251.jpg
my steering arms are also a rotten mess:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/06032009248.jpg
Fortunately I picked these up from driftworks a few months back as they were going cheap after a manufacturing error:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/06032009249.jpg
But unfortunately I can't fit them yet as I can't afford the tein rod ends so they'll have to wait a bit longer.
Whilst I was waiting for the paint to dry I made up a couple of inserts for the hub as the two bolt holes for the coilover to mount to on s14 hubs are larger than s13 hubs, these allow me to fit my coilovers without random +-5 degree camber changes whenever the car feels like it.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/06032009252.jpg
After that I didn't fancy starting any other big jobs so I came inside to grab a sandwhich and noticed a parcel had arrived for me.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/06032009250.jpg
It contained all my silicon for making up my boost pipes so now I just need to wait for my pipe to turn up and I can get the boost pipes mocked up. Also in the box was a new brake t-piece so I made up my front brake pipes.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/06032009254.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/06032009253.jpg
thebigroyboyski
07-03-2009, 12:48
Looks like it's coming along nicely dude :thumbs:
weiner_patrol
07-03-2009, 21:41
At least your boss will be happy, he'll be wondering whats going on as your productivity will have gone through the roof. :D
lol I spent a whole week looking at one bug...in someone elses code..cause it was that bad :(
Anyways car is coming along man, its getting there :D get it sorted and you can take me out in it when its running :D
Good to see the project coming along nicely Duncan! :thumbs: Hopefully this new job'll give you the funds you need nice'n'quick! :) What's next on the "to-buy" list?
Looking good dude:thumbs: Hope it goes a little more smoothly for you from now on as the wiring sounds like a nightmare!! J:)
Good to see the project coming along nicely Duncan! :thumbs: Hopefully this new job'll give you the funds you need nice'n'quick! :) What's next on the "to-buy" list?
Cheers jp, unfortunately me and the missus parted company the other day so I am now without a daily driver and as you know from my location it is far from practicle to just walk into town so nothing else will be getting bought until I have another car to fly about in. :( But I still have plenty to be getting on with before I have to start buying again, It just means a lot of the jobs will be slightly un finished.
Looking good dude Hope it goes a little more smoothly for you from now on as the wiring sounds like a nightmare!! J
cheers mate, the wiring has certainly been fun and its not finished yet, I started looking at the fuel pump wiring the other day and its totally different to the s13 so I'm just hoping what I've done is gonna work with the s13 pump and level sender and the 14 dash, fingers crossed. :D
So today the car was made mobile again by putting all my freshly painted parts back on, it would also appear that stripping down the hubs and regreasing the bearings has given them a new lease of life as I was able to quite happily push the car back by myself compared to the other day where it wouldnt budge. :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/07032009257.jpg
with the car moved back I pulled the engine out and swapped the engine mounts over for my nice new ones. I then attached the geabox so when the engine was back in and bolted up everything would be sat on its correct orientation.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/09032009261.jpg
This picture shows how much clearance is now gained with the new mounts.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/10032009262.jpg
With the engine back in I had some lengths of stainless pipe that needed chopped up, for this I really wish I had a mitre saw because cutting stainless pipe didn't really agree with me or any of my now toothless hack saw blades.
So i started putting together the puzzle:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/10032009263.jpg
With it all chopped up I ended up with these:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/10032009271.jpg
Which go on the car something like this:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/10032009272.jpg
I was going to use an original piece of boost pipe for the cold side but after chopping it up the best I could it just wasnt going to be suitable for the job so I'll have to order another bit of pipe when I can afford it so I'll add this to the list of uncompleted jobs. :annoyed:
I really wish I had a mitre saw because cutting stainless pipe didn't really agree with me or any of my now toothless hack saw blades.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Told you so :p :D
Looking Good mate :) Ill push for the gas asap :D
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Told you so :p :D
Looking Good mate :) Ill push for the gas asap :D
Lol, I knew that was coming. If I could of afforded one then I would have but unfortunately manual labour is the way it has to be.
If you can't get it for this weekend there's not much point rushing as I go away next week. If your free saturday then fire round, orkney's coming to pick up his car. :thumbs:
ianlea73
13-03-2009, 14:18
Also in the box was a new brake t-piece so I made up my front brake pipes.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/06032009254.jpg
Can you tell me what size the thread is on the T piece please.
Boombastik
13-03-2009, 14:33
looking good dunkz so is that you away offshore now ?
sorry to hear you and the missus have split dude !
Can you tell me what size the thread is on the T piece please.
the brake thread is m10x1 for 3/16" pipe. :thumbs:
looking good dunkz so is that you away offshore now ?
sorry to hear you and the missus have split dude !
Cheers dude, it is indeed a bit of a shame. :( I'm away offshore first thing tomorrow morning.
A tiny update before I go, haven't really done much as I've been a bit pre-occupied but I ran the rear wiring loom into the s13 and wired up the fuel pump and the level sender, working out the wires for the sender was just guess work as I couldn't to the sender in the s14 tank, it seems to be attached inside it but after trying a few combinations I got the gauge working however the fuel pump didnt seem to run, not sure why just now but I'll work it out when I get back. Apart from that I made up some new bulb holders for my rear lights so I now have 2 running lights and 2 brake lights either side as the standard s13 lights fail to make use of all the available glass which I think is a shame.
Thats it for the next two weeks now, I dont imagine they'll be a great deal happening when I get back either as I need to put the project on hold whilst I buy a daily driver although I have my eye on something rather cool so watch this space. :thumbs:
retrostu
16-04-2009, 10:31
Lookin good mate! wish mine was this far along! keep it up dude! :thumbs:
Lookin good mate! wish mine was this far along! keep it up dude! :thumbs:
Cheers mate, the two tone's nearly on the road so I can get back started again. Pugger was round last weekend and we got started welding in the cage, I'll have an update on that once we've got a bit further along. :)
SteveSadler
05-06-2009, 12:20
looking good :)
Glad to hear the progress on the cage fitting is coming along. Will be up to see this when its done.
Cheers Aj
looking good :)
Glad to hear the progress on the cage fitting is coming along. Will be up to see this when its done.
Cheers Aj
Cheers fella's, unfortunately I've barely done anything as my focus has been all on my other project. When i get onshore on thursday I'll be home for a day before I go away on a well deserved holiday and I have some work to fit in before the crail drift day on the two tone and puggers car so probably not gonna get any more done to the john deere for at least another month and a bit. :( I have started buying parts for her again though. :D
Superb!! i will send a pm or give you a call in amonth or so and arrange a visit mate. Hope you have a good holiday too!!
Cheers Aj
spice_weazle
06-08-2009, 19:35
Just read the whole project after your advice on my rust. Awsome fella, hope the end near and you can finaly appriciate a drive in it.:thumbs:
Just read the whole project after your advice on my rust. Awsome fella, hope the end near and you can finaly appriciate a drive in it.:thumbs:
Cheers mate, If I pulled my finger out I could of had it done by now but thats another month passed and I've still not touched it. Really need to get cracking again, hopefully in two weeks time I'll have a good run at it.
I did however take delivery of a nice new set of HSD's courtesy of DW which means the apex coilovers can stay on the two tone.
So much for the golden rule of "one project car at a time"... :wack:
So much for the golden rule of "one project car at a time"... :wack:
Its not so much that, just me being lazy and having too many other cars to fix but I'm down to just my two again after that last time off so hopefully I should get somewhere this time. It's just hard splitting the money between two cars. Need to go and buy a daily driver now as well so the two tone doesn't have to be run through the winter. Don't want the salt getting it before I have time to protect it properly. :nod:
Need to go and buy a daily driver now as well so the two tone doesn't have to be run through the winter. Don't want the salt getting it before I have time to protect it properly. :nod:
What's the point in having the two-tone if you do this though, as if I'm not mistaken, that's what it was bought for in the first-place..? :confused:
What's the point in having the two-tone if you do this though, as if I'm not mistaken, that's what it was bought for in the first-place..? :confused:
Mostly because the car barely has any protection from the elements at the moment and the rust has just started appearing, currently she's in very good condition so until I can get the underside protected the same as the john deere I'm going to have to keep her off the road, she's too rare an example to let the salt destroy her. :nod:
DOOOOOOO IIIIIIIITTTT & have an awesome winter daily driver! :D
Been really lazy with this lately, It's been months since I've done anything but I've found a bit of motivation finally so got on with fitting the roll cage. Unfotunately my grinder packed up early this afternoon otherwise I probably would have had it all finished by now but instead the front legs still need to be done.
It looks a mess but thats just all the swarf from drilling the holes. :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/2009-09-02184551.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/2009-09-02184847.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/2009-09-02184614.jpg
Fronts are looking like this at the moment, hopefully I'll sort out a grinder tomorrow and can get it finished off.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/2009-09-02184759.jpg
Bought some coilovers in the group buy seeing as the originals ended up on the two tone, big thanks to DW for a cracking price. :notworthy Also bought some fuel tank straps as I was too lazy to make some so once I get som fuel line sorted the tank can go back in.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/P7281324.jpg
royellison
02-09-2009, 21:12
niceness. cracking work matey
niceness. cracking work matey
Cheers dude, nice to be getting somewhere again. :)
What a carry on I had fitting the last of the cage, first my grinder died. Managed to get that fixed the next day though so started welding the fronts and I ran out of argo shield. Decided just to finish it using my little bottle of CO2 but then the trigger on my welding torch stuck on, so I went to wind the regulator shut and just before it was fully shut it started pissing gas everywhere. Got the regulator off the bottle to stop it and after a quick fiddle it was working again, started welding and that bottle ran out. :(
Tried using my big bottle of CO2 but the new regulator I'd just bought had no intresting in sealing so had to nip into town to get a little bottle as there was no argoshield in a 40 mile radius. £20 for a little bottle of CO2 :rant: but I wanted to get finished so with most of the day spent f**king about I eventually got it done. So hopefully I'll be able to get onto cleaning up the interior for paint tomorrow.
Fronts in:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/P9041379.jpg
A pic of my welding, its getting better. :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/P9041377.jpg
Scotty_s13
04-09-2009, 21:56
Looking sweet Dunkz loving the HSD's....:nod:
Looking sweet Dunkz loving the HSD's....:nod:
Cheers dude, hopefully I will be sooner than later. I keep getting tempted to throw them on the two tone to see how much a difference they make. :rolleyes:
marcus23
05-09-2009, 09:56
bout time we got an update :D ! looking good mate !
bout time we got an update :D ! looking good mate !
Cheers dude, I've been far too lazy recently. (6 months) :sleep:
I've been removing the remaining sound deading that was in the car today, need to weld up the last of the holes in the floor before I paint it though. Should have done it whilst doing the underside really. :rolleyes:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/P9061382.jpg
Rubbed the cage down as it had gathered a bit of rust seeing as its been sat about doing nothing all year and then started painting it, the main hoop only has one coat on it but the rest is all good to go.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/P9051381.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/P9061385.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/P9061384.jpg
royellison
06-09-2009, 22:33
have you made this cage? should make me one:D
im all stripped and ready to be caged!!;)
have you made this cage? should make me one:D
im all stripped and ready to be caged!!;)
Cheers dude, I didn't make the cage though. I didn't want to risk getting it wrong as a badly built cage could be dangerous rather than beneficial. It's something I may look into in the future when my skills are better but for the time being this is just a fabricage.
Cage is all painted now, it looks quality in white. Been busy cutting lots of grass today so nothing else has really been done. That'll probably be it for the next 3 weeks as I'm away offshore on thursday and have a few other cars taking priority when I first get back.
Good to see an update mate, looks brilliant.
Sorry i couldnt pop round had a few things come up but i will be round soon.
Cheers Aj
Good to see an update mate, looks brilliant.
Sorry i couldnt pop round had a few things come up but i will be round soon.
Cheers Aj
Nae bother, I'll be back in two weeks. Might be a few lads round the weekend of the 26th, maybe we should have a little mini meet. :sxoc:
Painted all the recent welding with por-15, I really wanted to get the inside all back to green and clean again but there's lots of holes to weld up first so it'll have to stay like this for the time being. I slide the rear cage back in as its about the best place to store it and I could see how the white would look on the green.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/P9081381.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/P9081380.jpg
Whilst I was having a clear up today the postman arrived with my aluminium sheet for the doors so I thought I would chop up a door card to see how it would look with the aluminium being used to cover the bottom half. I just need to decide how I'm going to extend the bottom section as there is a large gap before it would meet the alumium and doesn't look as nice as I would like it to. Any suggestions are welcome. :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/P9081384.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/P9081383.jpg
A pic to show how she stands at the moment, could probably try a bit of offroading with this stance, thats with the engine in and the only thing missing from the rear being the bumper and fuel tank.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/P9081382.jpg
Just getting tidied up and everything put away now till I return in 2 weeks.
The white against the green looks the job. :thumbs:
As for the door-cards, it depends what you're doing for handles. I'd then work around that as a stabilising structure with the alu but it looks like you'll be bending it a lot.
Or else try making a protruding panel from the door so have the alu coming straight down from the OEM plastic & tucking in at the bottom of the door. Then use another (cut) section to fill the gap between the panel & the door frame.
The white against the green looks the job. :thumbs:
As for the door-cards, it depends what you're doing for handles. I'd then work around that as a stabilising structure with the alu but it looks like you'll be bending it a lot.
Or else try making a protruding panel from the door so have the alu coming straight down from the OEM plastic & tucking in at the bottom of the door. Then use another (cut) section to fill the gap between the panel & the door frame.
Chees dude. :thumbs:
For the door cards I was just going to shape the aluminium to sit along the red line and i want it to sit flat, don't want to be bending it but the yellow piece will have to come out as it sticks out too far.
This means that I need to find a good way to extend the bottom line of the s14 sections back until its in contact with the aluminium. For reference the door cards are made of plastic with whatever the fabric is just stretched over the top so I would get away with glueing more plastic in I expect. :nod:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/duncan_h_taylor/rebuild%202/markedup.jpg
Bend the top of the alu out to meet the plastic. :nod: I was going to suggest that but then copped it wouldn't look like a door & possibly wouldn't bend into the 3D shape properly that is the S14 plastic.
Bend the top of the alu out to meet the plastic. :nod: I was going to suggest that but then copped it wouldn't look like a door & possibly wouldn't bend into the 3D shape properly that is the S14 plastic.
Nah, not wanting to bend the aluminium. Everything that gets done will be done to the door card bringing in to meet the sheet. I think glueing on bits of other doorcard is maybe the way to go. :)
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