View Full Version : FIGJAM -Proud to be pink project (you will find out why)
I have decided to start ( and hopefully complete) my project.
The car as it currently stands isn’t shy pushing out somewhere in the region of 400hp and is well set up in the handling department.
I love my track days and have now got a bit of a bug fro drag racing so I have taken the decision to push the current spec a bit further so I can really enjoy the 2008 season.
This isn’t my daily drive and I like my car a raw as possible.
The current spec and some pics to kick things off...
Engine + Associated
Apexi N1 exti (titanium) exhaust, trust elbow and downpipe, decat (extra silencer for track days)
Apexi cone filter
Apexi power FC ECU mapped by APT
Trust catch tank
Walbro 255 l/h fuel pump
FSE Fuel pressure regulator
KOYO Aluminium triple core radiator
Motul Oil cooler fed from thermostatic sandwich plate
Apexi AVCR Boost computer/controller
HKS SSQV Dump valve
Garrett GT3071R 0.86
Samco hoses
4 branch equal length 3mm thick manifold
Greddy/trust Front mount intercooler
Nismo 740cc injectors
Z32 Mass Airflow sensor
Denso Iridium Sparkplugs
Red top 700 battery
Nismo Engine and Gearbox uprated mounts
Greddy baffled oversize oil pan
Greddy lightweight engine to water pump, alternator and aircon pullies
Tomei 256 degree cams retains nissan valve timing
Trust 1.8mm headgasket
Autometer carbon Gauges-
Air inlet temperature
Oil temp + pressure
Water temp
Boost pressure
Transmission
OS Gilken Twin-plate clutch with light flywheel
Nissan 300zx gearbox and aluminium prop shaft
Suspension
Nismo Front lower strut Brace
Front and rear whiteline anti roll bars
Nismo rear subframe bushes
Whiteline front TC bushes
Apex steering rack bushes
Apex Coilovers 10/8 front an rear
Apex Alignment arms
Locking collers
Full geometry setup to my specs
Wheels
17” alloys
Track - 225 Pirelli P Zero Corsa Track Tyres all round
Road – 225 front 245 rear Eagle F1’s
Drag – 275 15” BF Goodrich Street Legal Drag Slicks on Compomotive Wheels
Body work
Japanese domestic market 200sx (silvia K) Spoiler
Track dents and bangs
Brakes
R34 GTR front (DS3000) and rear (DS2500) Brembos
Goodrich brake hoses
Interior
Stripped rear
Cobra Imola Drivers Seat (4pt Harness)
Standard Passenger
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0014.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0227.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0229.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0231.jpg
Oh and the videos of me being a muppet are in my sig
Cool man, mines about to take a step foward aswell ;)
I wanted to rebuild an engine (for fun) and to make sure the car could take any future plans with ease.
The plan (I can’t believe I have one) is to push the current turbo as far as I can on a rebuilt engine, then upgrade to something a little bigger.
THE REBUILD
I managed to find a 2nd engine so I could strip it down and rebuild it whilst keeping the car on the road, I pay enough for insurance so I though it would make sense to keep using it. I also thought that I will probably take longer doing this than I 1st thought so it would make sense to keep the car on the road so I call still do track days, RR days, drag days etc
New (old engine with 140k on it) a bit of an embay special. When I turned up at the scrap yard that was selling it they said it would never go it the car. Well if you don’t care about your cream leather then I can safely say you CAN get a SR20DET with all ancillaries into the back seat of and Audi A6
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0051.jpg
Started the strip down and everything looked OK
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0057.jpg
This was another engine I stripped in the past and was fooked so I was very happy this one was OK
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0157.jpg
Quite a clean head for 140k
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0060.jpg
Bottom end looks OK as well :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0119.jpg
Bores look in great condition considering there is 140 on them, a small amount of pitting but noting an 0.5mm over bore cant sort (sill giving me plenty of lner left for 600/600hp
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0082.jpg
Kyle @ H-Dev
30-12-2007, 17:18
Nice work mate, wish i could take mine alot further than it is, definately wanna do some track days this year! (Might have to borrow your car again :P)
Will have to take your motor off your hands when you've built the new one ;)
Looking good :) . You and mark should be hitting some huge bhp next year :thumbs:
If u need any head spares ive got some laying around aswell ( What a susprise )
Cheers mate, to split up some of the boring stuff and as I'm waiting on some parts I decided to do some drive train stuff.
I have always felt the 300zx box is a little "long" for track and drag work but great for the road.
Hence I went on the hunt for a skyline final drive 4.1 vs S14 at 3.6
Potential top speed now drops from 187 @7200 rpm to a pathetic 170mph but if I decide to raise the rev limit to 8k I get up to 188mph which is nice if I decide to go to 9k it "could" do 212mph with enough power (or a long enough runway)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/62a2_1.jpg
lol @ engine in the Audi
Good luck :thumbs:
WHY PROJECT PINK
As with all things in life there is a price to pay for having fun!:wack:
My girlfriend has to put up with a lot and she is great (thanks Lou) but I asked here what I could do to make up for spening soo much time on the car....why did I ask:annoyed::annoyed::annoyed:
She said she wanted me to go a bit nuts with fluro pink, so I agreed.
Pink bits will be:
Wheels
Cam cover
Cage
Driveshafts
Any other bits she decides need to be girlied up (you would never guess we are both 25):wack:
lol @ engine in the Audi
Good luck :thumbs:
Cheers Kev, hope to be able to do a lot better at TOTB this year (if I make the team)
great to see things moving:nod::D
Tom, if i can help with anything fella just give us a shout :nod:
This is the colour although ist about 100x brigher in the flesh
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0023.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0012.jpg
Fake Ben Taylor
30-12-2007, 17:45
Cool man, mines about to take a step foward aswell ;)
oh really???
and cool project figjam...pink rocks!!:nod::nod::nod:
oh really???
:nod::nod::nod: but this is Tom's thread soo keep an eye on mine soon :)
Kyle @ H-Dev
30-12-2007, 17:52
My girlfriend has to put up with a lot and she is great (thanks Lou) but I asked here what I could do to make up for spening soo much time on the car....why did I ask:annoyed::annoyed::annoyed:
She said she wanted me to go a bit nuts with fluro pink, so I agreed.
Liar! You just love to be noticed! :p I recon against the black it will look pretty cool tho :nod:
Here is the diff, now painted silver, and the drive shafts which need some cleaning/touching up but are a bit of fun
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0001.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0015.jpg
Liar! You just love to be noticed! :p I recon against the black it will look pretty cool tho :nod:
Hope so,
2 second photoshop but....
would look even better if I had cleaned the car for the pic but:wack:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/CarPinkcopy.jpg
This is gonna be awsome ! Pink rocks :wack:
Now the fund bit, here is the spec list which should see the engine take 600hp if I ever get a big enough turbo.
I would have gone for top notch parts but I dont personally believe they are needed for 600hp and the likes of Mazworx etc have gone to much higer HP on simila parts:
Head
BC Step 2 cams
Tomei Solid lifter kit
BC Springs and Ti retainers
New rocker arms (cut back to spec)
Light port & polish, mani ports matched etc
multi angle valves
ARP Head Studs
NVCS Retained
A proven setup good for 9k
Bottom End
Wiseco 86.5 pistons
Eagle Rods
ARP Everything
ACL Race Bearings
Trust 1.8mm HG
All balanced both static and dynamic by a chap who is an ex Le Mans engine builder
All new Nissan everything, oil pump, water pump, chain, ten, gaskets etc
PNT Intake
Q45 TB
There may be a twin pum and cell setup for the fuel but its not the most urgen thing so will wait
This is gonna be awsome ! Pink rocks :wack:
great to see things moving:nod::D
Tom, if i can help with anything fella just give us a shout :nod:
Nice work mate, wish i could take mine alot further than it is, definately wanna do some track days this year! (Might have to borrow your car again :P)
Will have to take your motor off your hands when you've built the new one ;)
oh really???
and cool project figjam...pink rocks!!:nod::nod::nod:
Thanks everyone, I'm really looking forward to getting it done, hope to keep it moving at a good pace:sxoc:
It best be fast or you'll look like a complete bender :ghey: :wave:
Can't wait to see it progressing further mate :D
I will be making some imporvements to the dash with one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280180387599&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=018
http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/c9/88/29bf_1.JPG
That looks fully complicated.............get it :nod:
thenickos
30-12-2007, 18:23
That looks fully complicated.............get it :nod:
Indeed, Uber cool! it'll need a Colwell carbon surround special :nod:
Evilchap
30-12-2007, 18:26
Any idea on timescale matey?
I would hope to have it all done by the end of feb, if parts turn up on time
Now the fund bit, here is the spec list which should see the engine take 600hp if I ever get a big enough turbo.
I would have gone for top notch parts but I dont personally believe they are needed for 600hp and the likes of Mazworx etc have gone to much higer HP on simila parts:
Head
BC Step 2 cams
Tomei Solid lifter kit
BC Springs and Ti retainers
New rocker arms (cut back to spec)
Light port & polish, mani ports matched etc
multi angle valves
ARP Head Studs
NVCS Retained
A proven setup good for 9k
Bottom End
Wiseco 86.5 pistons
Eagle Rods
ARP Everything
ACL Race Bearings
Trust 1.8mm HG
All balanced both static and dynamic by a chap who is an ex Le Mans engine builder
All new Nissan everything, oil pump, water pump, chain, ten, gaskets etc
PNT Intake
Q45 TB
There may be a twin pum and cell setup for the fuel but its not the most urgen thing so will wait
tomei solid lifter cams might be better:nod:
good work on starting the project mate, glad to see your putting it into action :thumbs:
tomei solid lifter cams might be better:nod:
They would indeed, I'm having a debate at the moment. At some point you must draw the line on costs I had decided to save some cash and go for the BC's but I have a link to the Tomei soilds in my fave box and when the time comes to press the buy button......:D
blue boy
30-12-2007, 18:45
Nice job Figjam. Still wish that the car had been working when i blagged a ride at Brands.
Looks like next year it will be a bit of a monster. :thumbs: for the pink
justbutts
31-12-2007, 15:17
gonna be an awsome ride matey :thumbs: and a well wicked colour,
the pink looks brighter than the anti collission pink paint, we have painted to the tips of our aircraft LMAO
if you need a hand with the engine build let me know :)
give me a pm if some certain items are to be on offer :nod: and you know what i mean ;)
as im looking to evolve mine further :wack:
Cheers Mark and will do
Fitted the diff drive shafts etc today, the pink isnt so bright on the drive shafts as I had to use a v dark primer and didnt want to waste lots of Pink on an area that will only really be seen by me.
I'm happy with the result and it makes the car look more funky
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0026.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0025.jpg
baker_001
03-01-2008, 15:10
The pink contrasts well with the blue suspension arms :D Looks good mate and what a spec! If you need a hand with anything and I'm around then just give me a shout. The photoshop with the pink wheels is missing something, I think you're going to need a pink pin stripe or maybe some form of g@y vinyls :p
I dont know what your talking about ;)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/CarPinkcopy-1.jpg
JulesS14200
03-01-2008, 16:19
I think the wheels look better in pink, its gonna look cool with a pink cage in a black car too.
Sounds like its gonna be a bit of a beast when its done :thumbs:
Cant believe you stuck the sr in the Audi though :wack:
Nice work mate. Good luck, I am no expert but after having spent the last year or so with my own SR20 build, please feel free to contact me with any info, if I can help I will, if I don't know I won't BS you lol.
What CR are you going for? 8:1 is what you want, mine is too high at 8.9:1.
Also, if you havent ordered them, and have the budget, I would up the rods to something more expensive than Eagle, I have Eagle and are fine so far, but if you are going for 9.5k rpm, I would defo spend the extra in that area.:nod:
Good luck.
:D
Nice work mate. Good luck, I am no expert but after having spent the last year or so with my own SR20 build, please feel free to contact me with any info, if I can help I will, if I don't know I won't BS you lol.
What CR are you going for? 8:1 is what you want, mine is too high at 8.9:1.
Also, if you havent ordered them, and have the budget, I would up the rods to something more expensive than Eagle, I have Eagle and are fine so far, but if you are going for 9.5k rpm, I would defo spend the extra in that area.:nod:
Good luck.
:D
Cheers and please ignore my photoplop above (its only a bit of fun)
The rods are a real killer, I'm going to stick with the Eagle ones (I would love some pauter x beam rods) but I wont be taking this engine to 9k rpm (as a max I'll be going to 8k).
People may think I'm a bit odd going for solid lifters etc to make a head that could do 9k and then not use it, but I want to have peace of mind that the engine will be ok bouncing off the limiter and my HLAs need to be replaced as they have done 140k on this engine
Makes perfect sense to me.:nod:
Eagles should be alright at 8k, I would rev mine to that if I didn't have gay lifters.
I like the time bomb image! Might be a suitable logo for my engine pmsl.:D
Lol, I'm sure it wont be. I'm going to be bricking it the first time I fire it up though.
Oh and the CR is looking like it will come out at 8.33:1 which should be fine
OK 260 Tomei solid cams it is.
Whils waiting for the stuff to arrive I have started to get my are in gear.
Watching the volume of the combustion chambers, mirror poish the head chamber, light port and poslish etc with some of the finsihing work to be done by the engineering company.
Polish (looks crap in the pics but you get the idea
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0035.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0039.jpg
Was bored so finished doing the rocker cover, its bright thats all I can say :)
I always like the look of high build primer so I took a pic
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0029.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0041.jpg
I may have one of my mates on the board buying my current engine but if not and people are looking for one in mid march mine will be up for sale.
55k miles!!!!!
1.8mm Trust MHG
Tomei Stage 1 cams (retain NVCS) 256 duration in and ex (was fitted with new rockers etc)
Rocker arm stoppers
A perefect well seasoned engine
Drop me a PM
Perfect if you want a great engine to drop inot a high milage car.
This engine has been serviced by the SXOC since it began life
A selection of acilleries will come with alternator, intake, (standard injectors) not manafold or turbo ;)
Can split the cams and engine if people want me to.
I'll be putting a for sale thread up closer to the time
Still waiting on parts but I have just brought a new nissan crank, still in box so I know the bottom end will be perfect. This way I can use nissan shells as I think given the fine grading they will be better than aftermarket although I could always go Nismo as they come in Nissan grades?
As an aside I wanted to make sure I could sell my onld engine so I though I would do a comp check (although it has never missed a beat).
Solid as a very hard rock is all I can say:
c1 138
c2 139
c3 138
c4 138
!!!!!!! Dont want to sell it now but I will have to so I can claw back some cash on the rebuild
what power are you going for, just thinking with the new crank :)
I would like the engine to be able to hold up to 600hp at 8-8.5k rpm
Can I ask how much the new crank was? Just out of interest.
Regards,
Richard.:)
Kyle @ H-Dev
20-01-2008, 21:54
Just realised you cant fit the recirc ive bought you with your current setup, you better start planning how your gonna get it to fit!
Need to sit down and have a chat with regards to the other stuff, need to decide where to take my project. Still very much interested in the engine.
Can I ask how much the new crank was? Just out of interest.
Regards,
Richard.:)
I'll drop you a PM. Its was a good price though:thumbs:
Just realised you cant fit the recirc ive bought you with your current setup, you better start planning how your gonna get it to fit!
Need to sit down and have a chat with regards to the other stuff, need to decide where to take my project. Still very much interested in the engine.
Will do mate. I'll give you a shout tomorrow
Kyle @ H-Dev
20-01-2008, 22:45
Cool, i think im gonna take the day off. All that hard work for the past 2 weeks made me sick lol. Recirc is now fitted to my car, much happier with it! Now just need more power!!
im watching this with interest :)
Yes I can be a bit sad sometimes, but I love having parts turn up and a 100% NEW crank from Nissan is enough to get my trousers twitching. :
It’s a beautiful thing and I got it for a steal which makes it even better in my books.
I can now use standard shells and get the clearances perfect and the same across all journals which is important in high RPM applications
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0045.jpg
Yes I can be a bit sad sometimes, but I love having parts turn up and a 100% NEW crank from Nissan is enough to get my trousers twitching. :
It’s a beautiful thing and I got it for a steal which makes it even better in my books.
I can now use standard shells and get the clearances perfect and the same across all journals which is important in high RPM applications
Nothing wrong with that mate, VERY nice.:)
still intersted in my Q45 TB?:Plug:
Looks to be a interesting project, will be watching! Loving the pink, funny when i had a rocker cover done in pink i got ripped for it! :wack:
Lol I keep wanting to but one set of costs has gone up in a big way! I'll have to see if I get stug for import duty etc on my bits, if I dont the I will need one as I'll be buing an uprated plenum
Kyle @ H-Dev
21-01-2008, 12:59
Still getting it all balanced or will you be wanting to leave the new crank alone now?
pete shrimp
21-01-2008, 13:01
I got a brand new crank when rebuilding mine, I would definately still advise getting it balanced :nod: Mine came back from the machinists with the rest of the engine bits with balancing marks all over it.
Gorgeous though aren't they :D
Nope getting it balanced with the flywheel clutch pully etc. Want to make sure its very well balanced
Kyle @ H-Dev
21-01-2008, 13:03
Good good. Getting the rods and pistons balanced too?
Yep, they will do a static balance on the pistons, rods, pins rings etc. Nice dynamic one for the above :)
Kyle @ H-Dev
21-01-2008, 13:26
Are you going to let me drive it with this engine in? lol. Still recon i may aswell buy your engine and go for stage 3a. Then if i still want more power, rebuild my current engine. Better start saving!
do they ballance the crank then add the flywheel and ballance then add the clutch and ballance as it should be done or do they put the whole lot together and ballance as one which is bad:nod: also what clearence are you running on your shells:) [me 1.2 tho but been told 2 tho would be better]
They do each part and then put them together for the final run to make sure it all works together (the guy who is doing is very good ex LeMans).
Shells is a tough one, I hear so many things that its hard to say. As my car wont be doing man miles and wont be doing many cold starts, i'm planning to run 1.8 tho as I feel this gives the best compramise between tight - long life, less good for high RPM and loose -short life, better for high RPM. With an oil cooler and running fully synthetic 10-50w (after break in) I think this should be a very good compromise.
I'm making the assumption that anyone with a c600hp engine will be happy to rip the shells out every couple of years to make sure everything looks OK (thats what I'll be doing and its the advice I would give to someone if I ever sold the car on)
They do each part and then put them together for the final run to make sure it all works together (the guy who is doing is very good ex LeMans).
Shells is a tough one, I hear so many things that its hard to say. As my car wont be doing man miles and wont be doing many cold starts, i'm planning to run 1.8 tho as I feel this gives the best compramise between tight - long life, less good for high RPM and loose -short life, better for high RPM. With an oil cooler and running fully synthetic 10-50w (after break in) I think this should be a very good compromise.
I'm making the assumption that anyone with a c600hp engine will be happy to rip the shells out every couple of years to make sure everything looks OK (thats what I'll be doing and its the advice I would give to someone if I ever sold the car on)
not every couple of years but every winter:nod: 600bhp is a lot of strain on an engine, i also have a pre-lube system that stores oil at the pressure you set it to :nod: 20 secs of oil at 40 psi for me for cold starting and it also cuts in when the pressure drops below a set level [surge etc]
its in a box upstairs, accusump i think its called
Yep its called accusump, great bit of kit in manyways better than a dry sump setup.
I was waiting to see how long it would take someon to pick up on the 2y comment (not long ) ;)
You also want to be keeping a close eye on the top end every year, looking for galling on Ti retainers and checking clearences in the solid lifters as things wear out
My mate runs accusump on his impreza, cool bit of kit.
i have the large capacity one and also a winged sump to absorb some of the extra oil that will be at times dumped into the sump:nod:
Just regarding bearing clearances:
I have been having a bit more of a think and I'm less sure that my 1.8thou is right. Same with ex-ctr, why have you decided to run so loose on the mains?
My thinking now is to run 0.0009 (upper limit of standard) on the mains as once broken in its likley that the clearence will increase a little.
then to run 0.0018 (upper limit of standard) on the rod bearings.
Anyone got any thoughts
Kyle @ H-Dev
22-01-2008, 16:53
Not that ive looked into it much, but could it be useful to look at the clearances bike engines or high reving car engines like honda use? This should give some insight into what the millions of £'s of research they have carried out found for high revving applications. Now i know the high power also plays a signification factor in all this, but could help with some tried and proven methodogies. Would suggest the same for f1 but their engines arent designed for ultimate longevity.
P.S. hurry up and come to london, want to paint my rocker cover :p Plus wanna do my clutch and mounts asap! Also the bushes! Need to get things setup nicely before summer.
JulesS14200
22-01-2008, 16:58
Theres too much tech info on this thread now, can you post some more pics of pink bits please :p
Jules, can’t do pink but can do shiny.:ghey:
I'm still waiting for loads of stuff to turn up and its driving me nuts :cry::annoyed:
However my new plenum has arrived (2 days from Japan to my door!!):eek:
My god the TB flange is huge, it looks very well put together (I hope)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0086.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0088.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0089.jpg
I really want to have some better updates for people but I dont have any parts so I cant
What make is that fella???
PNT, the welds look great
JulesS14200
11-02-2008, 15:14
That plenum looks so cool :notworthy
I want one to go under my bed :D
smokinv8
11-02-2008, 15:20
I wanted to rebuild an engine (for fun) and to make sure the car could take any future plans with ease.
The plan (I can’t believe I have one) is to push the current turbo as far as I can on a rebuilt engine, then upgrade to something a little bigger.
THE REBUILD
I managed to find a 2nd engine so I could strip it down and rebuild it whilst keeping the car on the road, I pay enough for insurance so I though it would make sense to keep using it. I also thought that I will probably take longer doing this than I 1st thought so it would make sense to keep the car on the road so I call still do track days, RR days, drag days etc
New (old engine with 140k on it) a bit of an embay special. When I turned up at the scrap yard that was selling it they said it would never go it the car. Well if you don’t care about your cream leather then I can safely say you CAN get a SR20DET with all ancillaries into the back seat of and Audi A6
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0051.jpg
My missus just walked past my laptop and saw this picture and said "Wont that be really noisy having another engine in the rear"!!
Women!:annoyed: No offence intended to genuine sx widows/owners out there:)
Patrick.
11-02-2008, 15:57
Plenum looks great!!
Do you have a direct link to the PNT plenum?
Cheers
i have one of those:nod: fecking temp sensors hit the oil heater/cooler:nod: i think the usa and jdm sr20's dont have the oil heater lucky i removed mine and fitted a tomei adapter:nod:
Thanks for letting me know I'm going to go have a play in a min and see how it fits
Figjam, if you order a tomei thing from Nengun let me know, I want to get one and am happy to split the postage, or even get the cheaper one from that other site in the USA.:nod:
justbutts
12-02-2008, 16:44
BLING ! :D
how much did the plenum cost you? will nismo injectors fit or do you have to change to a different make?
Figjam, if you order a tomei thing from Nengun let me know, I want to get one and am happy to split the postage, or even get the cheaper one from that other site in the USA.:nod:
Do you have link for the other one? Sound like a plan if its what I need although I think I will have to change my current cooler setup and move to a remoe one with aeroquip (sp) fitting if I change
Do you have link for the other one? Sound like a plan if its what I need although I think I will have to change my current cooler setup and move to a remoe one with aeroquip (sp) fitting if I change
the tomei one is remote and apex remote oil cooler screww in fittings from there filter block fit the tomei plate:nod: as shown in the pic [silver fittings]
http://premium1.uploadit.org/nollett123//RIMG0003.JPG
Kyle @ H-Dev
12-02-2008, 19:02
Looking good mate! I better get saving for your engine by the looks of things! Will give you a call soon regarding the work to be done on my car. Finding it hard to decide when to take the time off work as the weather forecasts are so unpredictable! Also wanna talk to you about the whole ramps thing, may be better off just making short ones from wood that we just jack the car up onto? Cheaper than buying new, and wide enough for 8.5 inch wheels.
Dont think I'm going down the tomie route as it looks sexy but £100 for its is strupid money. I have another plan which should work well!
In the mean time some more bits have turned up, just waiting on the piston and rods to turn up but I'm close to killing the company I'm buing them off after a months wait.
Anyway this made me happy but also a little scared
Standard vs Q45
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0001-1.jpg
Dont think I'm going down the tomie route as it looks sexy but £100 for its is strupid money. I have another plan which should work well!
In the mean time some more bits have turned up, just waiting on the piston and rods to turn up but I'm close to killing the company I'm buing them off after a months wait.
Hi mate,
Yeah its is a load of money, if I had more time I would have ordered the cheaper USA made one (can't find the link). But compared to the standard setup with a chinese bit of junk on it, that leaks, it should be a load better.:nod:
I hate the wait for parts, in the end my pistons took 3months. A tip though, you just have to go along with it. What I thought would take 8 weeks, took 8 months, if you accept now that your engine will take a while (to even get the bits) then it might make it easier to plan.:nod:
Cheers and good luck! The throttle body looks savage!:smash:
I want one of those throttle bodies :nod:
Right,
All parts have turned up so I can fianlly crack the fook on.
Engine almost out just waitng on some SXOC peeps to give me a hand with the heavy lifitng
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0025-1.jpg
The parts pile has got quite big now. CAnt believe this is all going inot one engine :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0027.jpg
CP were the ones holding me up as I custom specced some pistons, look bloody sexy though
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0028.jpg
Should start to make some real progress now
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0028.jpg
mmmmmmmm shiney
Looking good mate, custom spec'd how, CR?:confused:
Will post some more pics up after today but just wanted to say a massive thanks to Flik, Stevey, Sprout and Evilchap for giving me a hand today:)
Top SXOC spirit despite me loosing my cool with a stuck blot and getting the angle grinder out.
Slight in joke but my mum loved the flowers with the badger in them...happy mothers day, aaaahhhhhhh lol
baker_001
02-03-2008, 21:01
Glad you were successful Tom, I would have been there but I still feel like crap :( :hurl:
Will post some more pics up after today but just wanted to say a massive thanks to Flik, Stevey, Sprout and Evilchap for giving me a hand today:)
Top SXOC spirit despite me loosing my cool with a stuck blot and getting the angle grinder out.
Slight in joke but my mum loved the flowers with the badger in them...happy mothers day, aaaahhhhhhh lol
Flowers Flowers Flowers Badger! :eek:
That bolt was just... :furious: Good to have got it off though
Give us a shout if you need any more help now I know where you liiive :thumbs:
justbutts
04-03-2008, 16:40
sorry i couldnt make it matey
if you do need a hand let me know :)
I want one of those throttle bodies :nod:
I have another spare :Plug:
Kyle @ H-Dev
12-03-2008, 15:58
Glad to see the progress, and look forward to getting to drive it once its done ;) :D
Master Chief
16-03-2008, 21:00
"CP were the ones holding me up as I custom specced some pistons" ,
Whats costum about them ??
Main thing was the comp ratio, I wanted someting a bit different and it took a month to get them. Just had a call from the machining shop all the stuff is ready so I'm hoping to get a load of work done over easter
Haaaaaa mother fooker ..... a proper update is here and I want to get a lot of work done over the easter weekend.
Old engine came out and was sold :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0025-1.jpg
First the bad news, had to cancel the mapping at APT on the 28th because, well, I dont have an engine and I wont have one by then. Moving on to the good stuff :)
Firstly more buying, after this thread (http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=335795&highlight=msd)I decided to just do it right form day one so I got me one of these http://www.msdignition.com/images/6211.gif
This should take care of the spark:thumbs: feeding the coils with c500v direct to stop any high boost ignition problems (much more elegant thatn splitfire coils in my eyes)
Machining work done and dusted
Over bore 86.5mm and hone, which looks neat
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0032.jpg
A light skim on the head (block was OK) http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0029-1.jpg
Valve guides have been replaced by Jim Wolfe Phosphorous Bronze Guides:thumbs:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0031.jpg
3 angle valve and seat cut
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0037-1.jpg
As I'm going to solid lifters Tomei suggest that you cut back the rockers so as they know best thats what I did
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0035-1.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0033-1.jpg
Crank, Pistons, Rods and all the other bits have been balanced today and are waiting for me to pick them up. It will be interesting to see how well balanced the crank was from nissan as its a brand new crank?
I suspect a brand new crank wont be balanced to motor sport spec, just OEM spec.
Good to see progress :)
Looking good :thumbs: Cant wait to see this going
Sounds good, put a radius on the grinding you did on the rocker arms though :thumbs:
Sounds good, put a radius on the grinding you did on the rocker arms though :thumbs:
Probably a stupid question but why?:confused:
As I'm going to solid lifters Tomei suggest that you cut back the rockers so as they know best thats what I did
Any clues on why they suggested that? I'm putting solid adjusters in and if its a good idea I'd be wanting to do it.
Rob
Kyle @ H-Dev
20-03-2008, 09:42
Clearance issue i would guess, if the cams lift higher than standard, perhaps rockers may contact part of the head at high rpm? Just a guess though.
p.s. oh look, my engine crane is famous! :D :wack:
Sounds fair, did they say how much to cut off?
Yep I'll PM you a link to the specs if you want?
Yep I'll PM you a link to the specs if you want?
That would be brilliant thanks.
OK, got the bits back from the engineering company and its was intersting.
Rods needed up to 4g taking off them.
Crank was very good only needing a slight bit of work.
OSG clutch was perfect!
Pistons were perfect!
Pully needed a bit
Probably a stupid question but why?:confused:
Sharp corners will act as stress raisers. Might not be an issue, but not worth the risk looking at how much you seem to be spending! :D
Sharp corners will act as stress raisers. Might not be an issue, but not worth the risk looking at how much you seem to be spending! :D
Ah yes sorry had a mental moment then. Will do as I'm doing the same on the crank. It seems that nissan put a lot of sharp edges on the crank (like cut your finger sharp) and I wanted to remove them so will do the same on the rockers.
Cool :thumbs:
:down: to Nissan though!
diamondsink
22-03-2008, 22:20
Sharp edges on the crank cut the oil cleaner. A lightened crank has like knife edge shapes.
http://www.xs-engineering.com/xsstore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=650&idproduct=8484
Cranks don't run in the oil :no:
The oil wraps around a crank like toffee, which is why windage control is necessary. There is a bit of a scraper tray/windage tray on the SR20, but there is room for improvement there I'd bet.
Sharp edges on the crank cut the oil cleaner. A lightened crank has like knife edge shapes.
http://www.xs-engineering.com/xsstore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=650&idproduct=8484
Your theory is sound but knife edging/ aero-profiling is changing the profile of the counter weights. I'm talking about sharp edges on machined surfaces that do noting to reduce the "drag" on a crank. Sharp edges will be the most likely point for failures hence you should remove them (same reason you shot peen).
Phatbob is right a crank will not run through the oil but it will be in an oil mist hence reducing this is the best way to reduce your running losses.
As a note after much discussion I decided not to knife edge the crank for a variety of reasons
my crank
http://premium1.uploadit.org/nollett123//DSC00809.JPG
http://premium1.uploadit.org/nollett123//DSC00810.JPG
fully ballanced and an ATI harmonic pully:nod:
yea! show off! :D nice work bro!
Well what a crap weekend,
Got to actually put some stuff back together only to find out Tomei sent me the wrong Inlet cam :( it was for a DE rather than the DET.
However I like to make progress so here it is although things may stall a bit now as I wait for the new cam!!!
Lots and lots of cleaning that I didnt take any pictures of youll be glad to hear
ARP main suds lin place
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0038-1.jpg
Ground down the Ex side 4th and 5th studs
Fitted the bearings
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0040-1.jpg
Main caps with bearings
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0041-1.jpg
All torqued up with plastiguage for a final clearance check, all OK which is good.
Then decided to move onto the head (once again a lot more cleaning)
Installing the valve stem seals was fine on the In side but the Ex was a massive PITA
Anyway got there in the end, added the spring seats and Brian Crower springs
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0042-1.jpg
Titanium retainers and collets added (looks nice) and the solid pivots (much high RPM coolness)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0043-1.jpg
Finally torqued the cams up
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0044.jpg
This is the point that I found ought it was the wrong cam as the botl for the VVT sprocket was too small. To say I was pissed off is a VERY big understatement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
baker_001
26-03-2008, 11:24
That sucks tom...how long do you reckon it'll take for the correct cam to get to you? Couldn't you get them to send it 'overnight parts from japan' ? :D
That sucks tom...how long do you reckon it'll take for the correct cam to get to you? Couldn't you get them to send it 'overnight parts from japan' ? :D
Would be nice, just need to work out who picks up the bill, should be Tomei but not 100% sure:indiff:
Anyways checked more clearances tonight and took the cam of to send back to Tomei:(
So I decide to make me one of these, anyone guess what it is:confused::D
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0050.jpg
Very boring but its a thread chaser I decided to make. Could fidna proper on in M11 1.5 anywhere so I cut some slots did some fileing and it seems to work really well to clear the threads
Evilchap
27-03-2008, 08:38
That is a pretty cool idea :D
I dropped you a PM matey, headlights are going on my car tonight, so yours can be returned, you planning on going to the C&F next thurs?
Ben
justbutts
27-03-2008, 16:20
just out of interest? do you have any pictures of how much you ground off the two studs on the ex side number 4 and 5 studs?
Sorry JB pic below
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0057-1.jpg
Engine going back together but in the meantime I got a deliver of some new tools and chest to store them in :)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/DSC00038-1.jpg
And some other cool stuff like snapon impact guncs, leakdown testers, carman dignostic tools, hydraulic pullers and loads of other stuff
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/NewImage.jpg
FCUK me! That tool chest prob cost more than my engine!
Waaaaay nice.:)
Awsome roll cab Tom. Id love something like that but i wouldn't have anywhere to put it :cry:
JulesS14200
08-04-2008, 16:25
You ram raided the 'snap on' dealer :notworthy
Kyle @ H-Dev
08-04-2008, 20:42
:eek: 'kin el Tom, think you should let me 'borrow' them for my career changing plans.
I got given some snap-on socks... I feel gifted ;)
Only other person I know with pretty much every snap-on tool you can get is my wifes dad in the states. To say its expensive is an understatement!
Engine looks real nice... keep up the work, and sorry to hear about the tomei issues :(
Matthew
i have a 10mm and a 13mm snap on spanner and thats it lol, i take it that lot has something to do with work im guessing,???
that cab is worth over 2k allone :wow:
nice engine build too, gutting about the cams tho,
Evilchap
09-04-2008, 12:10
Nothing to do with his work... he sells drinks!
Very nice tools :D No more rounded nuts for you me thinks...
Nothing to do with his work... he sells drinks!
Very nice tools :D No more rounded nuts for you me thinks...
he's a barman:wack:
Evilchap
09-04-2008, 16:23
He's not a barman, no. He sells drinks :p
Nothing to do with his work... he sells drinks!
Very nice tools :D No more rounded nuts for you me thinks...
Lol, wishfull thinking me thinks.:D
Yep, my mums BF had a very succesful garage and sold up to move out of the UK (Bahamas). He took some of his tools with him and left them at my mums house. I went into have a play ;) The cest if full of Snap on tools amd the ammount of top diagnostic gear is huge.
Engine comming along now, just getting some custom ground shims for the solid lifters
Just a few pics of what I have been up to.
Solid lifters are the worst job I have ever done, NEVER AGAIN.
I now have to buy a bucket sized turbo just so I can make use of the extra revs.
Piston rings done thanks to a very kind member who lent me this
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0058-1.jpg
To allow this
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0060-2.jpg
Stuck it all together and measured the crank play, thrust bearing clearance, rod clearance etc all within spec.
Turns over by hand although a little stiff (to be expected)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0061-2.jpg
Now on to the HELL Job shimming a solid head
8 of these and 8 flast ones
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0065-1.jpg
need to be measured
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0059-2.jpg
Then you find none of the test shims are the right size for your chosen clearance so you need to order Tomei ones BUT... they dont do them in small sizes so if you have had your seats and valves cut the stem will be too high so you will need smaller shims 2.2mm for the smallest.
If life was good Nissan would still stock shims down to 1.8mm but they dont so I then had to find someone to cut down the sims, easy for the flat ones but the rocker guide ones are a very odd shape SO....
After much pleading with the local engineering company they grind them down to size for you (I decided not to bother ordering the Tomei ones as the engineers could give me an exact size rather than the nearest Tomei size)
Here they are sized up and ready to fit
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0067-1.jpg
JulesS14200
09-04-2008, 23:42
Yep, my mums BF had a very succesful garage and sold up to move out of the UK (Bahamas). He took some of his tools with him and left them at my mums house. I went into have a play ;) The cest if full of Snap on tools amd the ammount of top diagnostic gear is huge.
Engine comming along now, just getting some custom ground shims for the solid lifters
I wish my mum would find a boyfriend like that :D
(sorry dad :wack:)
looking good :nod: i hav not got around to shimming mine yet:o as im fitting an engine into a lucida which is my tow bus:D and the ring grinder is back home:thumbs: glad it was of use:nod:
looking good :nod: i hav not got around to shimming mine yet:o as im fitting an engine into a lucida which is my tow bus:D and the ring grinder is back home:thumbs: glad it was of use:nod:
Yep thanks for lending it to me. Good lick with the shimming, if your lucky its a quick job, if your clearances are a long way out its a pig of a job to sort the shims out.
Just for Jules I have painted some more stuff pink.
Front and rear strut brances now pink
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0071.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0070-1.jpg
justbutts
11-04-2008, 15:06
keep up the good work matey :thumbs:
hope you have it up and running soon, if you need a hand let me know my off weekends are in may, but i guess you would like it ready before japfest?,
if i can get mine back together i will be taking mine up to japfest but not on the track (its still to loud at the mo :( ) but im booked in for rotorstock :)
Cool, are you going to Rotorstock with the DJCC?
justbutts
12-04-2008, 07:56
yep sure am :nod: and it prob looks like i will end up taking the car there on a trailer, that way if it breaks i dont have to worrie about getting it home lol:rolleyes:
justbutts
12-04-2008, 07:57
just out of interest what head gasket are you going to run? sorry just found the spec you building to lol:rolleyes:
Master Chief
20-04-2008, 23:01
Good to see its coming along !
What Clearances did you end up having on the MAIN and ROD bearings, at the end ?
I see you used ACL Race bearings ?
Looking good so far...
Just want to say a massive massive thank you to Flik @ Sprout for helping me pu tthe engine in. It was a bastid to do with the Z32 box and the fook off big plenum but we got there.
Big thanks to ProjectS14a for the engine crane and the idea of the tarpaulin to keep mw out of the rain.
Pics to follow
Anytime bud :thumbs:
Twas a little bit of a bastid :wack:
justbutts
28-04-2008, 07:41
sorry i didnt make it over matey, i badly over done the alcohole on sat night and only came round at 4 in the after noon :wack:
Fake Ben Taylor
28-04-2008, 07:51
did you grind the shims for the rockers down yourself or just measure and order theright ones?:)
edit: just read....erm did you do all the measuring? i spoke o my machining shop and they were talking like it was going to be hella expensive:(
Ahh the shims.
I did some myself and got a machine shop to do the others. The problem is that the rocker guide shims are a funny shape so machine shops dont want to touch them as the wont fit in a normal shim grinder its cost me a lot just to machine 2 rocker guide shims (£20)
Fake Ben Taylor
28-04-2008, 08:02
mine are ca ones which are discontinued for the time being so i have 24 of the largest ones available to grind down to size. the ca ones arent a funny size though so shouldnt be too much bother :)
just need to get my head work done first
Thats OK then. As a guide the machine shop I use charges £4 per "normal" shim
Just want to say a massive massive thank you to Flik @ Sprout for helping me pu tthe engine in. It was a bastid to do with the Z32 box and the fook off big plenum but we got there.
Pics to follow
I never had a problem getting the Z32 box in... BenTaylor said that I'd have to do bulkhead 'modifications' with a hammer to get it to fit.
Mine was originally an auto...
Kyle @ H-Dev
28-04-2008, 16:17
No worries mate, anytime :thumbs: Big thank you for your help too. Im loving the car at the moment, but am really itching for more power! Think we're gonna have to figure out a poor mans version of a rebuild lol, but i really want one of those turbo kits from HPIAB, hmmm external wastegated goodness! But the kit on its own works out at 1650 odd before shipping and tax :(
Anyway, back on topic, look forward to seeing it all done, sorry i couldnt come down to help on the weekend, if Kate hadnt just come back, i would've come down no questions!
Well there was only one way this was going to go with me rusing, working mad hours with work. Building the engine till 3 in the morning and getting 3h sleep per night.
Yep you guessed it I have fooked it (need to strip the whole engine!!!!
Actually feel happy as I'm not in a rush anymore as this puts me out for the season.
Sorry to SM and APT who I'm now going to mess about.
Bugger it I'm going to have a bath
Yep,
Remember if your so knackered you can even see dont start taking an engine apart, you WILL get it wrong!!!!!!
gutted, whats wrong?
Managed to leak coolent into the cylinders so need to strip and cleant he block. Not the end of the world but a PITA with everything I have on at the moment
Kyle @ H-Dev
09-05-2008, 00:12
Sorry again mate, as you say, atleast your no longer rushing. Got the right idea with taking a few days of work so you can do it at your own pace. Works for me usually :wack: And offer still stands, will come down on weekends if you need a hand :thumbs: Will give me a good chance to get away for a weekend and bed in this clutch so i can abuse it :D
Dude that sucks, any idea how the coolant leaked in? :(
Yes, but I'm too embarrased to say on an open forum:wack:
All I'll say is that the build up till last night was perfect then I tried to take one tiny shortcut so I could make Japfest and the Pro Street Drag series to get some times in for TOTB and I didnt engage brain.
1/2 seconds after I did someting I had that feeling in the pit of my belly and heard a Glug glug glug sound, at that point I dropped the coolent, put the bonnet on and walked away :cry::o
Evilchap
09-05-2008, 08:23
Mate, that's rubbish news :( You know if there's anything any of us local monkeys can do to help, you need only ask :thumbs:
Mate, really sorry to hear it.:cry: Only people who have done their own builds can know how hard it is, especially with work and real life getting in the way etc.
It might actually be a blessing, I think you were trying to achieve too much too soon, these things take time, they really do. I was in the same position as you almost exactly 12months ago, trying to get to Japfest as my deadline. Whilst the car did actually make it, I am now only at the stage where I hoped it would be, some 12months later.:rolleyes:
Anyways, keep going and chin up.:thumbs:
Yep, the good thing is I dont need to by any more parts and everything is plumbed in. It will also mean I can tiday up some bits I was less than 100% happy with when plumbing in the new plenum.
Yep, the good thing is I dont need to by any more parts......
WRONG!
Lol.:D
lol,
I did say to my mate thats whilst its out again I could go topmoutn with a GT35
Kyle @ H-Dev
09-05-2008, 10:46
Do it and sell me your turbo cheap :p
Do it and sell me your turbo cheap :p
lol, thanks for letting me spout shite to you last night, helped me destress a lot!!!
Kyle @ H-Dev
09-05-2008, 12:00
No worries mate, I know how you feel, im sure i did the same when we were doing my clutch, deadlines suck :nod: And definately stop you thinking clearly.
Engine out thanks to my wounderful girlfriend!!!!!!
Strip it tomorrow (the engine that is)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0090.jpg
Even had her working under the car!!
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0091.jpg
baker_001
10-05-2008, 20:14
I never thought I'd see the day! :eek:
Glad you're getting it sorted Tom, I felt so bad for you when Lou told me. Still, at least you've got time to sort everything out to a standard you're happy with.
O/T How are you getting to Japfest now? I will be home thursday and am travelling up from there...:)
good lad while she is there get her to polish the wheels i would
I never thought I'd see the day! :eek:
Glad you're getting it sorted Tom, I felt so bad for you when Lou told me. Still, at least you've got time to sort everything out to a standard you're happy with.
O/T How are you getting to Japfest now? I will be home thursday and am travelling up from there...:)
I know, good girl hey!!!!!
I'll drive the Audi up from home, we can meet up and travel together if you want but its probably quicker for you to go up to Salisbury and go that way.
I'll give you a shout and sort it:thumbs:
Kyle @ H-Dev
11-05-2008, 11:14
Nice work mate, not sure i could get kate to do the same, although she has said she's gonna help me clean and polish the car soon :nod:
Chriscooke
11-05-2008, 11:17
Engine out thanks to my wounderful girlfriend!!!!!!
Looks like you've got yourself a keeper mate:nod: good work:thumbs:
justbutts
11-05-2008, 14:41
gutted man bout the glugging what was the problem?
hope you get it sorted in time
im looking to try and get fliks old engine fitted toi mine tomorrow before japfest
Mate this thread would definately be better if you left the engine alone and stripped the GF instead!!!!
What went wrong with the original build?
Master Chief
17-05-2008, 15:52
Nahhhhh.... I thaught only i was "lucky" enough to close an engine after a long build, only to have to reopen it because of some bad s**t.
Anyway, be carefull not to fall into the "If the engine is striped again, its a chance to do ......... and ...... and ......", trap.
That is what keeps people from enjoying there cars, and actualy driving them, instead of constantly building and waiting for parts.
Master Chief
02-06-2008, 19:42
Any news with this ???
Yep had a big fight with RHD Japan over their fook up that caused this. Finally have it resolved and they are send the correct part.
As a note I have been speaking to Tomie directly and they have their own thoughts on RHD as a distributor:rolleyes:
other than that its all ready to go back together just the usual waiting for things to arrive.
I'm not basing RHD Japan too much as they have tired to help its just that thir fook up has left me out of pocket and its always diffciutl speking to people in Japan trying to resolve a complex probelm.:annoyed::annoyed:
Master Chief
04-06-2008, 22:01
I too do quite a lot of buisiness with RHDJAPAN, and although they are well intended, they do mess things up, here and there.
I allso had a talk to TOMEI and they said this and that about RHD, but not sure why though.
Anyway, do you mind sharing a bit of info of what happend ?
I am just about to finish mine, and would really like to avoid something i might be missing.
PM me if you preffer.
Thanks.
OK, trying to get the motivation back up. Please feel free to shout at me and I'll get my ass in gear
Chriscooke
08-07-2008, 12:43
OK, trying to get the motivation back up. Please feel free to shout at me and I'll get my ass in gear
GET ON WITH IT:whip::D
baker_001
08-07-2008, 12:48
OK, trying to get the motivation back up. Please feel free to shout at me and I'll get my ass in gear
Come on Tom get on with it :D
If you need a hand just give me a shout, I'm back for the summer now so just give me a shout :thumbs:
Pull yer fecking finger out you lazy fckuer!
Master Chief
09-07-2008, 09:44
Even i finished mine - i cant imagine anyone taking any longer to do it - 2 Years, 1 Set back, 1 build restarted from scratch ,about 1 million $ invetsted (yeah....sure...) - but finally finished !
You can do it.
Even mine runs now. Admittedly mine is still a long way off finished even after two years and 10months, and its not the engine I started with. But there was a long wilderness period, where a man finds time to search his soul and discover what it is thats really motiviating him...
OK fook this project S14a is coming down this weekend and it will get done. Everything is done I just need a kick up the ass to put it back together and get it in the car.
By the way mate, bring my fire extinguisher down with you (just incase)
Oh and I have been buying even more crap got a set of r33 GTR wheels with a new set of tyres. Dont like the tyres so the first thing I'm going to do when the car is running is have a drift day to burn them up.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0006-1.jpg
I had been running 225 semi slicks (Pirelli P Zer Corsa) front and rear but with c400hp it was way to easy to spin them up even though they are really soft.
Because of that I got some 265 D01Js :) shouldnt have that probelm any more even with the extra power after the rebuild.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0007-1.jpg
Drove past yours a few days ago . Couldnt believe your car was still on stands :(
Hope all goes better now you have the right parts :thumbs:
Hoping that my stuff from RHDJapan wont be as much of a **** up :( Good luck this wkend sorting it out!
265s :eek: You'll be hammering those arches out then :)
If it wasn't Rotorstock this weekend I'd offer a hand.
JulesS14200
07-08-2008, 14:17
Needs more pink bits :p
lol, OK I'll sort out some more pink. Roll cage will defo be pink when I fit it
ENGINE IS DONE
Feels really smooth to turn by hand even with the super high lift cams in place.
Thanks to ProjectS14a for the help and to Baker 001 for offering (sorry I didnt see your text).
Here is Kyle (ProjectS14a trying to hide from the camera) doing up the crank bolt.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0010-1.jpg
And mugins thinking thank fook its done.Ignore the cloths these are the nastiest oil stained shit rags I could find.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0012-1.jpg
Next weekend is fitting the engine and first run
Should paint the crank pulley. Looking fantastic mate. GF is in love with that pink, you've got me in trouble :whip::annoyed:
Evilchap
11-08-2008, 11:56
Well done mate :D Looking forward to seeing it done :D
Master Chief
21-08-2008, 20:25
Good to hear you finaly got it finished !
Is that a GT3071r-WG, btw ???
Good luck with the rest of the work...
JulesS14200
21-08-2008, 20:39
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g197/Tommy200sx_photos/IMG_0012-1.jpg
You've got that sly arrogant 'yeah' look like you've just pulled a fit bird in a club.
But instead of feeling her arse your grabbing your plenum lol!
Anyway **** the engine, paint the cage :cool:
lol, if the bird in the club had an ass the size of that plenum I wouldnt be smiling ;) Thinking about it if she has a c*nt the size of the throttle boday I'd be proper ****ed off as well
GT3071r indeed, just to run the engine in then I may setp up to the GT35
Well it started :)
Very happy, with all the mods it runs a bit lumpy and I have a wef small leaks to sort out which I expected but all in V happy. With the high lift cams it sounds very crazy. It is also amazingly quited considering it has solid lifters!!! No smoke from the exhaust!!!!
I think its going to be a bit crazy when its mapped
Nice one Tom :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
Cheers bud, see you on Friday! Just hope it runs well enough to get it all the way to Gary's (oh and to pass the emission test fro the MOT)
lol, we cam moan and complain about the stresses of cars over a load of beers!!!!!
congrats on getting it running, be great to see it!
hi, did you grind down your own shims or buy the correct ones , im thinking of getting a wet stone bench grinder and make a V jig and round bar with a hole machined to take the shim with an adjuster bolt so i can grind my own
hi, did you grind down your own shims or buy the correct ones , im thinking of getting a wet stone bench grinder and make a V jig and round bar with a hole machined to take the shim with an adjuster bolt so i can grind my own
I ground my own, and let me tell you there is zero room for error. I used the machine that MASS race engines use to grind their shims and I needed a second set of shims. The ones I got 90% spot-on are noisey as hell...
Finnaly got off my ass and sorted the leak (just one pissing clip that needed to be a bit tighter).
Sorted the hunting aout but it needs to got to APT to be propoerly soted as with the new plenum, TB etc it idles way to high. Going to see if it will get theough and MOT once I put the bumper back on. If not I'll get it on a trailer up to APT to get a running in map then MOT and back up for the full map
Evilchap
10-02-2009, 22:48
So how goes it in sunny Newbury? :D
lol Jez is going to be mapping later in the week so I'll let you know!!!
jez says
Hi Tom
We've got the car running a lot better now - just going to do some pre-MOT checks and then book it in. I'll let you know how it goes.
Happy days,
jez says
Hi Tom
We've got the car running a lot better now - just going to do some pre-MOT checks and then book it in. I'll let you know how it goes.
Happy days,
what you having done:)
Just the mapping work on the new engine etc. Only a running in map but with the change in plenum, solid lifters, cams and whole engine build etc I'm happy its all up and running. Thing had really ground to a halt as I was so busy with work and "changes" in my life, in reality the car has been ready for this for 6 months.
Just the mapping work on the new engine etc. Only a running in map but with the change in plenum, solid lifters, cams and whole engine build etc I'm happy its all up and running. Thing had really ground to a halt as I was so busy with work and "changes" in my life, in reality the car has been ready for this for 6 months.
hows the solid lifters going as im doing the shimming on mine now:nod:
Seem OK, I shimmed them tight and although it makes cold starting a bit of a pig (all be it when the car was un mapped and running grade 8 plugs and 2deg outside) is sounds very quiet.
Hot starting was fine and I guess it will all be a lot better with a proper map.
Shimming was a pig, took ages although I would be able to do it a lot more quickly 2nd time round.
Going to keep an eye on the clearances as I know they are going to open up a bit as the engine runs in so I expect it to be a bit louder.
Seem OK, I shimmed them tight and although it makes cold starting a bit of a pig (all be it when the car was un mapped and running grade 8 plugs and 2deg outside) is sounds very quiet.
Hot starting was fine and I guess it will all be a lot better with a proper map.
Shimming was a pig, took ages although I would be able to do it a lot more quickly 2nd time round.
Going to keep an eye on the clearances as I know they are going to open up a bit as the engine runs in so I expect it to be a bit louder.
what clearence did you settle for and how close did you get them as a pair, are you using tomi 270 cams with 12.5mm lift
Nope I went with the Tomie 260 deg in the end, as with the supertech valves profile, porting etc I didnt really see the need to go massive (and they are easy enough to change in the future if I decide to go for a bigger turbo).
I'll check the table and let you know what I settled on in the end...I'll be abck
OK 99% sure it was 0.1mm not very tight but at the tightest end of recommended if I remember right.
They were almost prefctly paired but all were far less than the max of 1 thou, think the highest was 0.5 in the end (sorry to mix metric and imperial but doing this from memory)
Could be wrong as I have my files on a different hard drive to this one
OK 99% sure it was 0.1mm not very tight but at the tightest end of recommended if I remember right.
They were almost prefctly paired but all were far less than the max of 1 thou, think the highest was 0.5 in the end (sorry to mix metric and imperial but doing this from memory)
Could be wrong as I have my files on a different hard drive to this one
im finding around 1 thou difference in the pairs and around 2 thou between cylinders using the tomi shim kit, i should only need 8 max new shims:nod:
Thats good going! Did you re-cut the seats and the valves? I found that caused me the most problems when it came to shimming.
Thats good going! Did you re-cut the seats and the valves? I found that caused me the most problems when it came to shimming.
chessman did the head and race cut the seats leaving 2.5mm seat to maximize flow with the supertech valves and porting, i did ask them to get the seats matched which they seem to have done, im relying on water injection to keep egt's down so the seats last as long as possible
Thats good going! Did you re-cut the seats and the valves? I found that caused me the most problems when it came to shimming.
That caused issues when I shimmed mine too - ended up having custom shims ground to suit :rolleyes:
That caused issues when I shimmed mine too - ended up having custom shims ground to suit :rolleyes:
Wasent reaaly a problem as I had to re shim with the solids anyway. Did you need a reshim with the lash i.e. standard ones (p.s. have you got the diff done as I'm going to start selling parts soon and want to include the diff in the sale)
Kyle @ H-Dev
17-02-2009, 17:06
Glad to see its coming together mate, about bloody time ;) Dont forget to stop by when you drive the car home :D Will give you a call to catch up :thumbs:
Woo hoo, picking the car up on Monday from Jez. I think its been a little difficult to map because of the moohassive throttle body but really looking forward to driving it. Unfortunatly its just a running in map so i now have to drive it arround for 1k miles. The the fun begins.
Aslo got Jez to stick some HIDs in :)
Sooo happy
Good job mate, we can use them soon hey :)
Lol OK its Friday as I got called away on business
Evilchap
27-02-2009, 18:38
Come on then, spill the beans, how is it? Or do you need a lift to get it back? ;)
lol its great, drove it back through Friday rush hour problem free. Taking it easy as it needs runnin in then back to Jez for the fun stuff. The 90mm TB has made part throttle a bit of fun but thats waht you get. Just doing oil changes and tidy up this weekend as well as lots of driving to get the miles up ASAP
Evilchap
28-02-2009, 06:02
feel free to come visit to put the miles on ;-)
Woo hoo all done (thanks Jez). Felt very lively on the way home with the power coming in like a train a 4k! Havent had the balls to wind it up to 8k yet but soo happy to have it back, will have to put some video up.
Now need to go and RR it
justbutts
18-03-2009, 18:25
glad to hear its all going well matey i think there will be a rr coming up in the dorset/hants area soon.
Lets hope so, is that an SXOC one or a DJCC one?
Evilchap
18-03-2009, 22:43
SXOC, there's info in our section ;) Well talk about the idea of one of these days.
If we arrange one soon, for maybe just a few of us (veef has a nice local place somewhere thats reasonable) I'll put my name in the mix provided I have a car to do it in :thumbs:
Congrats on the mapping though! :D
I fancy that but I may well just go to Triton and give it a blast. Would like to compare to my last run that was done there.
I'll let you guys know wht I'm going to do when I speak to Triton and see what space they have. The SXOC one is at a different RR which I may well go to but really want a comparison one with Triton
justbutts
19-03-2009, 08:17
ok matey let me know when you end up going there as i have 4 days off in the week and if im working at the weekend i may slope off work as im only across the road from triton lol
Nice one will do, going to go for a few more shake down runs before I hit the Dyno
Evilchap
19-03-2009, 18:35
Fancy a shakedown run to Southampton? ;) :D
If my weekend goes how I plan then a big YES, will text you and get your address if I manage to get my act together
Just to note I'll be up for coming along for the dyno :) I should have mine in a better state (and I haven't forgotten about the stand btw, I just haven't got a car that it fits into - head gasket - long story :()
Looking forward to seeing it :)
what suspension set up have you got on it?
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