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Thought it was about time i started to post my project in the making so you guys can tell me your thoughts on the progress and where i might have gone wrong,
So here goes, bought my white s13 back in march 2007 for £1000 but the bad news was it had no engine,gearbox,ecu,or loom but the upside was it was a pretty solid shell and had brand new 17" rota boost wheels and tires fitted, also had brand new apex coilovers and aluminium rad and full stainless exhaust system so the first thing i set out to do was buy a donar car which i found for £400 which was complete so set about taking the engine from one and fitting it to another, no problems then fitted a t28, sard 660cc injectors, z32 afm, 255lph fuel pump and apexi power fc and commander and a front mount intercooler and had it mapped by steve sadler who did an amazing job, the car went from mild to wild with a few live mapping sessions but sadly the engine was a shitter and has just died on me.
Now have gone off the white and started to get the car sprayed BAYSIDE BLUE (i know its been done before but i LOVE the colour) had the door and boot shuts done and now about to do the engine bay when the old engine is out.
Bought a vertex front and rear bumper and have now got uras side skirts and chargespeed wings to go on but will get them sprayed first :)
anyway back to the story:
SO managed to find a complete rb20 engine,gearbox,loom,chipped ecu,prop and turbo for £570 delivered today thanks to a superstar called becks ( you know who you are :D)
now the fun begins (:() well im abit nervous as never done anything like this before but will keep you posted as work continues
Can anyone tell me how to post up pics as i havent a clue :confused:
Thanks
Ol'_200sx_thing
22-12-2007, 13:29
open a photobucket accout and use that to post them up mate, thats what id did, glad to hear of another Rb getting done, they are great conversions, you will NOT be dissapointed at the extra torque and that 6 cylinder burble :D
just looking for someone to help me do this converstion
how do i go about photo bucket?
Ol'_200sx_thing
22-12-2007, 14:22
go to photobucket.com and open an account, you load the photos into that, then use the insert image icon ( its at the top of where you write replies etc, down from a white smilie face, 3 along ) and then post the link.
Sorry if thats a little confusing, someone can prob clear it up, ive been up for about 11 hours and im a little tired :)
As for help, im waiting to find out if my mate is sback so i can stay with him, if i can i can do all the mechanical work, but i cant do wiring, still learning and not very good, but Buffy off here can do plug and play loom conversions. Drop him a Pm:thumbs:
SO managed to find a complete rb20 engine,gearbox,loom,chipped ecu,prop and turbo for £570 delivered today thanks to a superstar called becks ( you know who you are :D)
If you would like to divolge this information via PM, it would be greatly appreciated. I need all of that soonish :nod:
mate if you could help that would be mental but i am hoping to get it done in the next few weeks if possible
the old engine soon to be replaced
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/7232010engine_old.bmp
with this monster
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/8348341engine new.bmp (http://www.imgsync.com)
have a chat with DAL, who is on the this board, he has just completed this conversion himself:thumbs:
Ol'_200sx_thing
22-12-2007, 19:15
i wont be able to help then mate, im in the netherlands working and wont be back for a couple of months
just a pick of the car as it is now
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/68231.JPG (http://www.imgsync.com)
looking good mate
You know where I am If you get stuck:thumbs:
cool cheers mate think it will be plugging the loom back in and plumbing the engine in is where i would need help
Brian Griffin
25-12-2007, 17:38
Good luck with your project - the rb20 is a good engine - ive got an r32 and i like the power it puts out - got a couple of minor things to do to tweek it a bit - fitted a mines ecu - still got fmic to plumb in - fitted apexi air filter, after market exhaust and driftworks front pipe to help things - have had it on the dyno but it was running lean at the time so they didnt run it - got an fpr to fit to sort that. What sort of power are you hoping to get from this - and are you planning any mods on installation or putting it in as standard and taking it from there
just gonna put it in as standard and go from there, got a front mount and a chipped ecu so will build from that
FYI the photobucket thing................
when you upload an image to it there will be a nuber of code boxes below the pic. If you left click the [IMG] code it will say copied then you just need to paste it into your reply.
Whats the weight compared to the CA?
nice one mate, i see your going to be using the exact same method of fitting as me,
just hope for the bese :wack: lol
but yeah i am going to get the same mount kit as you have and im also going to be getting an rb20 :thumbs:
off i go to ask dal how he did it and what standard parts work :)
good luck with the project mate and hope we can help eachother out where poss.
will be taking the old engine out tomorrow, got next week off work so hopefully can get the engine bay sprayed bayside blue ready for the engine to go in.
anyone willing to help hook up the loom and piping please let me know.
thanks
nice one mate, im not too worried about the piping its just the wiring thing, hoping that with this mount kit its going to be able to use the standard prop too unmodified :)
just a little update for you guys,
took the old engine out yesterday with the help of my mate ian:thumbs:
removed the loom today and started taking everything out so i can paint the bay over the next few days
if anyone is willing to help me out please let me know as ive got all week off work so will be cracking on getting this done
few pics for you all :)
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/1598715good1.bmp (http://www.imgsync.com)
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/8843082good.bmp (http://www.imgsync.com)
did a little today i did some welding where the rust was a started to do some filler work to make it look nice and did a trial fit of the skirts to see what you lot thought of them?
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/2704122skirts.bmp (http://www.imgsync.com)
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/4102477skirts1.bmp (http://www.imgsync.com)
your thoughts please :)
That'll look loads better with the skirts on and car cleaned :whip:
skirts suit the car very well imo :nod: keep it up mate
will be getting the car sprayed bayside blue so aint gonna clean it yet
Ol'_200sx_thing
31-12-2007, 15:10
nice colour mate, but i prefer midnite purple 3 mmmmmmmm:D
Progress is going well, the conversion wont take that long once you are into it :thumbs:
well still waiting for the engine and gearbox mounts to come then i can put the rb in and take the car for a trip to garage D for them to do the wiring
loving it mate,
what kit is that and roughly how much does it normally go for as i quite fancy kitting mine out now, and my panel gaps are not great on the front (few minor bashes etc have taken there toll on the wings and bumpers) so fitting a kit i could sort a lot of it out without anyone noticeing lol.
the front bumper is a vertex one and the back is a gp sports one, they set me back £190 each and the skirts i got a deal on them from srbpower for £140 which are uras ones, also got a set of chargespeed front fenders for £200 from srbpower which i still need to fit
m.d
you can change your sig now as you dont need a rb prop :thumbs:
oh yeah lol, forgot about that lol, ill change it now.
i need to figure out how to block of the power steering pump :(
easy mate, weld it up =]
ive not looked to see if the s13 ones fits yet, going to get the engine later in the week to test things like this, ordering my mount kit today too,
they are different sizes so im gonna use the rb one and use some bolts to block of the rear steer part
do you have a spare CA clutch kicking about that you could trial fit to the RB20's flywheel for me, would save me hell of a lot of money if it does, and doing me a huge favour at the same time
guy has already come and took my old engine and gearbox
SORRY
no problem mate, ill try it when i get my RB on friday =]
did you order your mounts yet?
finally got the engine bay painted today (gloss black) and looks good,
will be getting some front brake lines from dan at dbpower so i can fit my 4-pot front calipers and drilled disks
couple of pics to keep you going :)
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/4172719bay1.bmp
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/673830bay2.bmp (http://www.imgsync.com)
looking sweet, keep them pictures coming :thumbs:
P.S. YHPM
nice mate, was that brushed or sprayed. looks clean tho :thumbs:
ive ordered and paid for my kit now yeah, so not sure but i think its about 6 to 10 days delivery, too long really lol, getting my engine and loom on friday so all going in the right direction, gotta love it when the misses says ''why dont i pay for the engine mounts and you pay me back another day'' :D
sweet :thumbs:
used spray paint to do the engine bay it gives a smoother finish
gonna go get my brake lines later so will hopefulyy have my new brakes on today :)
do you have a spare CA clutch kicking about that you could trial fit to the RB20's flywheel for me, would save me hell of a lot of money if it does, and doing me a huge favour at the same time
Wont fit mate RB ones is a fair bit bigger:nod:
comming along mate looking good:thumbs:
i was going to use the rb pump as i havent got the bracket that holds the ca one anymore (unless anyone has one they would give me)
what breakers did you get the rb parts from as i need the pipes for the heating?
balls, thats another week its going to take then, bugger, ah well, will be worth it when its all ready
i was hoping to have it done this week but still waiting on the damn engine,gearbox mounts and my ecu :mad:
does anyone know if a ca18 downpipe fit a rb turbo downpipe?
need to buy a down pipe and wondered if it would fit or if i needed to buy an rb one
Ol'_200sx_thing
03-01-2008, 12:43
as mentioned you need to buy an rb one, and mate it to you ca's cat or decat, they are very close ( mine was about 15mm off) and any one who can weld should be able to make it fit for you :thumbs:
hmm thats a good bit of info, ill have a look into that when i get my engine in, ill prob just cut and shut my stadandard one tho tbh, going to have to get some 3'' offcuts from the local exhaust place as i have already modded mine to suit the top mount
damn it ca ones are like £59.99 for the downpipe and decat where as the rb one is a lot more and you dont get a decat :(
Ol'_200sx_thing
03-01-2008, 13:25
go to ebay australia, there was a good deal on 3 inch downpipes and decats a while abck, maybe some more will come up :thumbs:
Patrick.
03-01-2008, 14:06
The engine bay looks sweet indeed:thumbs:
cheers for the comments you guys
now got some more pics for you,
went and saw dan at dbpower last night and got these from him
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/4758563brake_lines.bmp
which helped go from this
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/8259703old_brakes.bmp
to this
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/4873618new_brakes.bmp
a big improvement over the crappy standard ones
also now the holidays are over my parcels started to arrive
got these today
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/2750491new_clutch.bmphttp://www.imgsync.com/data/img/1808249turbo_elbow.bmp
cant wait to start fitting them :D
Are you using standard turbo ie ceramic??
i am for now well until it dies
did you say the bracket for the ca steering pump fit to the rb lump?
also will the pipes need changing?
OFF TOPIC:
This imagesync website you are using to upload pics takes an absolute age to load them :whip:
yeah but its the only way i know how to do them :(
Photobucket FTW!!!
Great project mate, keep it coming.
Photobucket.com ftmfw !!!
please say thats not a techniclutch clutch.
altho a friend of mine did have one and rated it very highly, maybe the skyline owners get a much better clutch than we get done over with lol
yep it is but it does come with a 4 year garentee so worth taking a risk
lol, you say that but so did mine and over a year later and several (take several as shit loads) i still am owed a clutch that can take more than standard CA power, cos the one they sent (that should be able to take 350bhp apparently) could not even take standard at all.
i gave up in the end, they did send a replacement for the first clutch they sent which was marginally better, but still could not take anywhere near what they said it could, i had about 300 ish bhp and it slipped on that. and after that you just get nothing from them at all. a mate of mine just got one from them too and his also slips on stage 2, badly too.
if it goes wrong mate they wont give you anything, just warning you thats all, they have done the same to many others, oh and the bearing they send lasts about 3 days before making a horrendus noise.
just make sure you get someone who works in a clutch fitters to give you a reciept for fitting because they will use the fact that you fitted it as reason for it not working properly,
hopefully you will be ok as my mate with his skyline was, just be careful thats all
thanks for the heads up :thumbs:
like i say, just hope yours is ok bud, would hate for you to get it all in and find it slips,
does anyone know if it possible to put the rb in with the gearbox attached without removing the cross member?
or could i put the engine in then attach the gearbox after?
Ol'_200sx_thing
03-01-2008, 19:25
its possible :D
I did it with the RB25, took some time and juggling but it goes :thumbs:
im going to do it that way :)
Ol'_200sx_thing
03-01-2008, 21:12
TBH if you unbolt the subframe and leave it hanging down while you put the engine in things will go a little smoother.
Then bolt the cross momber back in, then bolt the engine in.
Just a thought ;)
couldnt get much done today cause im still waiting on my mounts to arrive :mad:
but got the brakes all fitted and did a few other liitle bits
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/4867872brakes_done.bmp
ducatichick
10-01-2008, 09:28
glad to see my engine has been put to good use :) I can't see the pics for some reason-I'll check again later ;)
small update
Got the engine and gearbox in today with the help of a new member on here (thersuterman) nice one son :thumbs:
will get some pics up later as the weather is sh*t at the moment
will be cracking on tomorrow if the weather is good
get out there mate, i need some more insperation to get out there and do mine lol
well done mate, whats the ETA on it being finished, glad these mounts worked, good bit of info for others looking to do this conversion,
ive managed to get everything on mine ready to fit and run (which includes a tubular manifold, a scary expensive gearbox and paying someone else to make the loom) for less than a grand :thumbs:
well im hoping to have the car done in the 2 weeks
just need to sort out a starter motor and a throttle cable
then it will be paint time after that
never thought of the throttle cable, what one do you have to use, i have both the RB one and the CA ones,
hoping that the CA starter may fit, :)
Ol'_200sx_thing
11-01-2008, 00:28
you can use the ca cable, just need to make a new bracket to hold it :thumbs:
m.d. have you tried the ca starter motor yet?
when are you gonna make up your bracket for your throttle cable?
prob be one of the last things i do, but ill have a quick look tonight cos if its easy ill try and make you one too :thumbs:
nice one mate :thumbs:
when you gonna fit your engine?
potts, dont spose you have a pic that has your gearbox in it do you, ive just got mine and i want to make sure its an RB20 one and not a 25,
when you look at the output end, i remember the s13 box having a thin steel cup at the end, this one doesnt and it stops right where the end of the gearstick plate ends,
does this sound right, dont really want to have to get my prop cut and shut really.
aint got a pic at the mo but i had a look and it looks like i have a cup on the end like the ca
sorry :(
need your opinion guys and girls i am having my rocker covers sprayed bayside blue and was thinking of doing the spark plug and cam belt covers white
what is your thoughts on this and what colour would you suggest?
THANKS
it might match your very nice...
looking forward to see the pics... heheh
anyway... you guys make me so so jealous... :(:( doing those rb conversions...
lol
ah its ok, i think the cup has just been popped off, there are some marks in that area from screwdrivers etc,
and seing as tho they have broken the clutch cylinder off to get it off id say they were a little brutal when stripping this car,
just hope the rest of its ok. all the gears feel fine and there is no excessive play in the shafts,
hoping that all my sensors will swap from box to box as they have also butchered them :cry: i hate scrappys grrrrrr
Hi MD, regarding your sig, you looking for a stock ECU or are you open to remapped ones?
I've got an Intec one here that I believe to be stage 1.
Details are here:
http://www.skylineowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76242
a few pics for you of the engine in the car
the new clutch fitted
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/2616344new_clutch.bmp
engine in
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/5866446new_engine_in.bmp
another view
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/4995113new_engine_in_2.bmp
have now stripped the rocker covers and sent them to get painted and still deciding on what colour to do the cam cover and spark plug cover
just got myself a top mount manifold for mine too :D
i want to run something like a T04E turbo on the engine so not to be massively laggy but still go well, but ill stick the standard tubby on the top for now, just for ease of changing
how much was your manifold? i was thinking of getting one
i paid 55 quid posted lol, second hand but never used, i just wanted to fit my external wastegate so i could have a screamer pipe. they are normally about 120 posted.
Ol'_200sx_thing
11-01-2008, 17:56
what are the mounts like ? good quality, where does the shifter sit in the whole ?
the mounts seem to be really good and the shifter sits near on exaclty where the ca box used to sit so all in all its well worth the money for them :thumbs:
Nice one mate its the hard bit now:wack:
Is that a CA pump I see there??
This mount kit how much clearance have you got between the engine and bulk head??
yeah used the ca pump for now till i can sort something out
the kit doesnt leave very much room so i massaged the firewall to give a little more clearence
just waiting on my apex rad to come and i need to take a trip to garage D to get some heating pipes :thumbs:
hows your car doing DAL?
any tips you can give me :)
Thats looking sweet bud, keep it up :D
yeah used the ca pump for now till i can sort something out
the kit doesnt leave very much room so i massaged the firewall to give a little more clearence
just waiting on my apex rad to come and i need to take a trip to garage D to get some heating pipes :thumbs:
hows your car doing DAL?
any tips you can give me :)
My car is awesome thankyou mate, Its running 0.8 bar now and OMG! Im busting to get her on the rollers and get up to that pod, when the weather sorts itself out:nod::D RB S13 shootout on the horizon I see:wack:
Not much I can think of really tip wise, just take your time and think about it, (obvious really:wack:) depends what problems you have tbh!
I found it an enjoyable job and would jump at the chance to do it again, you wont regret it mate trust me.:nod:
Have you tried putting the PS belt on yet?? :D
calicagesracing
11-01-2008, 23:43
good job matey, nice to see another rb20'd 13 joining the ranks:thumbs::cool:
Have you tried putting the PS belt on yet?? :D
i've the ca pump on mine and the belt is slightly off line but it hasn't come off yet
it should be ok
i've the ca pump on mine and the belt is slightly off line but it hasn't come off yet
it should be ok
Thats why I said it mate as mine is exactly the same I drilled the bracket holes out as much as pos put it a bit straighter:nod: been sweet ever since touch wood!!
DAL how many bolts did you manage to get in?
thanks for the comments guys i cant wait to have it all finished :)
update for M.D.
got the prop bolted up which was a perfect fit :thumbs:
the shifter sits dead center :D
the anti-roll bar is very close to the sump but clears :(
will get some pics up later
sweet mate, just thought id let you know that the CA started seems to fit perfectly :thumbs:
ive heard that a little [ahem\] massage [ahem] to the sump is a good idea to make it clear a little better, not sure if im going to bother with that tho, i just may space the ARB down a little if it does hit,
i really cant wait to get mine in, ive spend all afternoon today getting soaking wet taking the rest of my engine out, still not got my mounts yet but ive worked it out that they should be here by monday if they are the same rate as yours were,
does anyone know if the GTR flywheel is any lighter than the standard RB20 fly, if it is then ill swap them over as i have one here for some reason lol
i dont think im going to be able to get my engine in this week as im on late shift so on my own all morning with no help getting this engine in may be a little tricky lol,
but first thing next sat ill swing the bugger right in,
DAL how many bolts did you manage to get in?
2 mate rear one and lower one:thumbs:
sweet glad to hear the starter fits now i need to get one :(
anyone got one they dont want let me know :thumbs:
cheers DAL i will take mine off and drill it out
M.D. shame your so far away from me otherwise i would of come and helped you as i got some holiday time off work at the mo
its so dam wet here its untrue. got soaked through today and all i did was swap a few gearbox bits over and remove the bottom end and gearbox that was left in my car, (which only took 20 mins tops)
the pikey garage that removed my gearbox made a right hash up of it, the spedo sensor wire was cut off and the sensor itself was damaged so im going to try and fit the s13 one, the bolt wont come undone tho and just rounded off. on both boxes,
also the metal dust sheld that is on the output end of the box was missing so i have had to pinch that from my old s13 box, its funny how many things are exactly the same on the two boxes.
also found out that an s13 quickshift fits the RB box fine too, glad about that cos i love the feel of mine.
how you getting on with the wiring on yours buddy, i didnt risk that bit myself lol.
taking the car to garage D next week hopefully for them to do the wiring :thumbs:
glad to hear your getting things going with yours :D
dunno if you saw but i found out that the GTR flywheel i have. is from factory 3 lb lighter than the RB 20 fly, bonus, :D
got a few jobs done today
got the rocker covers back from paint so fitted them and fitted the heating pipes and bolted everything under the car so getting really close for the car to go to garage D for them to do the wiring :D
should be getting the cam cover back tomorrow so i can tick that of my list
a few pics for you to enjoy and looking for some feedback from you lot to see if i doing ok :thumbs:
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/3478740new_covers_1.bmp
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/9261358new_covers_2.bmp
enjoy :sxoc:
love it mate, dam you for beating me to get it fitted tho lol.
ECU is all ready to go, Matt.
Took it to the post office today but the queue was huge and I was pushed for time. I'll get it sent tomorrow morning.
ECU is all ready to go, Matt.
Took it to the post office today but the queue was huge and I was pushed for time. I'll get it sent tomorrow morning.
:thumbs: great mate, thanks, i havent got the loom yet so its no problem, nor my engine mounts yet, but i looked today and they arrived in customs yesterday morning so should well be here by tomorrow,
allong with my top mount manifold :D
just going to seal the standard wastegate shut on the turbo by replacing the acctuator with a solid bar, and use my external wastegate, then its all ready for when i want to change to a larger turbo (im sure it wont be long lol)
made some pipes up for my intercooler tonight, hmmmmm lobsterbacking lol takes fooking ages but well worth it imo, :nod:but i like the prefabbed look lol
calicagesracing
15-01-2008, 16:01
couple of jobs well worth doing before you go too far mate:
change water pump (mine leaked after about 3 weeks)
change 2 short water pipes under the inlet manifold
both between 2 and 4 inches long and about 3/4" internal bore
(one burst while mapping, the other during a trackday:mad:)
a really good move is change out all the water pipes cos they are all around 15yo at this stage:rolleyes:
they are an absolute cnut to change with the engine in
head gasket is also a good idea but that takes time and if you rare anything like me you just want to get it in there and running;)
also if you are putting in management, stick in 6 ca injectors.
that should see you through to well over 300bhp without spending much cash
glad someone said those things, ill have a look on mine when im putting it in
got some work done today :D
got my intercooler pipes all done ( yey )
got my cam cover fitted and nearly got everything done apart from the wiring which is getting done this weekend :thumbs:
will get some pics up tomorrow as its too dark now :(
got a few pics of how she is at the moment
sorry about the poor pics but it is dark :(
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/4610128night_1.bmp
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/8370658night_2.bmp
sorry its abit dusty, the paint work is top notch :thumbs:
is this from one of those ebay intercooler universal kits, looks really really neat mate well done,
yeah mate did the job and looks nice too :)
the engine will look even better with a nice shiny plaque on it ;)
trying my best mate, i want one on mine so definately going to get it done :nod:
small update
car is with julian at garage D at the mo having a few little jobs done which should be back to me any day now :D
will get some pics up when i get the car back for you opinions on the project :thumbs:
wohoooo. get on mate, your going to be beating me by a few weeks mate, ive still got quite a few custom (bodges :wack:) to do before mine is all up and running again
nah you might beat me cause im waiting on apex for my rad :(
its a race lol, im going to take my rocker covers off soon and give them a paint now i have finished the pipework, going for red again i think :) i love the red and blue theme in an engine bay.
went down to garage D and took some pics for you guys to dribble over :D
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/3815071garage_1.bmp
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/3874028garage_2.bmp
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/4042836garage_3.bmp
also picked up my new wheels to, rota torque 17x9 et30 with 5mm spacers
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/6333138garage_4.bmp
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/6944080garage_5.bmp
Ol'_200sx_thing
28-01-2008, 21:13
nice :thumbs:
Now you will have " proper" sounding car ;)
http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r184/ruishy1/?action=view¤t=delete.flv
xborninthefight
28-01-2008, 22:23
very nice mate:notworthy that sounds great, didnt think a Rb20 could sound like that.:thumbs:
that vid sounds like it doesnt have an exhaust lol.
glad to see its all coming on nicely mate, really need to get my rocker covers painted,
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/MeLLoN_Stu/?action=view¤t=MOV00523.flv
Thats what a RB20 with a proper Exhaust sounds like :nod:
Butuz
Ol'_200sx_thing
28-01-2008, 22:43
just the turbo elbow :D
And it was a 2.5 ;)
bruts, is that a fairly standard RB20 set up with an exhaust by any chance??
bruts, is that a fairly standard RB20 set up with an exhaust by any chance??
Yep - but good luck finding an exhaust that sounds quite as nice as that - I haven't :cry:
Butuz
does sound very nice, but you could hear that there was not much power behind it thats all.
im missing the savage sound of the exhaust that i used to get with the stage 3 set up i had so hoping to get similar from this next engine,
hope mine will sound something like that :D
i got a 3" system front to back and have a stainless turbo elbow too so if i can get a noise like that i will be one happy chappy ;)
im hoping mine will sound a little savage with the external wastegate lol
dont owrry, If its anything like my rb25 with external gate then............ lets say its not quiet.....
nice :thumbs:
Now you will have " proper" sounding car ;)
http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r184/ruishy1/?action=view¤t=delete.flv
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/MeLLoN_Stu/?action=view¤t=MOV00523.flv
Thats what a RB20 with a proper Exhaust sounds like :nod:
Butuz
hope mine will sound something like that :D
i got a 3" system front to back and have a stainless turbo elbow too so if i can get a noise like that i will be one happy chappy ;)
Hey, nice project thread... great pics and progress mate. :)
I just got my PC working again after losing my hard drive and im catching up on the progress of evryone since... there's a few RB20's in progress, so hopefully between us, we might be able to persuade more tuning companies to stock more RB20 performance parts available 'off the shelf'! lol :rolleyes:
Just thought id include my own exhaust sound too, for another comparison! lol
Here's a clip or 2 of my Nur Spec's sound... its got the HKS split 3'' elbow and Blitz front pipe too, but the system's still partially restricted due to the reduction at the decat section... its 72mm, ive still to get it increased to 80mm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8sxeRFFFKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCq17VJYaDI
Very airy/gurgly sound till the revs get up... but 'fraid i didnt get any footage at high rpm's.
This was revving to 4k ish!
And no more than 40% throttle either! :D
Anyway, dont mean to hijack your thread Potts'... so just wanna say 'Top Work mate' , and cant wait to see how it goes when ur on the road. :) :thumbs:
cheers nize :thumbs:
still waiting to get my car back from garage D which they have had for 2 weeks doing the wiring and still not done :mad:
hopefully get it back this week but then again i say that all the time so we shall see what happens
nize if you got any info you can give me on the wiring i may be able to forward it to them to speed up getting my car back
will update as soon as i get some more info
-***JOKER***-
03-02-2008, 21:45
mate what body kit is that?
looking awesome
its a vertex front bumper, uras type n (i think) side skirts and gp sports rear bumper
Yep - but good luck finding an exhaust that sounds quite as nice as that - I haven't :cry:
Butuz
my mates 375bhp rb20 sounds better than that
Ol'_200sx_thing
04-02-2008, 16:27
prove it then, dont just jump on with one post and make claims like that without backing it up
yey getting my car back today (at last) will get some pics up later for ya
picked up the last bit of my body kit yesterday (chargespeed rear over fenders) so will get that fitted this week :thumbs:
pics will be up later
my mates 375bhp rb20 sounds better than that
Lol can't believe you wasted all that time signing up to the forum just to post about your mate - how does your car sound... good I hope? :sleep:
Butuz
that makes two of us :thumbs:
as promised some pics of the progress so far
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/8340405done_1.bmp
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/3940298done_2.bmp
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/5332919done_3.bmp
few pics of my new wheels and my chargespeed front fenders
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/9204270done_4.bmp
http://www.imgsync.com/data/img/221937done_5.bmp
got some rear chargespeed fenders aswel which im gonna fit on friday so will update pics then
just waiting for my apex rad and fans to arrive and im all set for the road :D
commig along nicely mate well done good work:thumbs:
love it mate, can i ask why you have cut the crossmember, im assuming its for the new rad or something, i was going to do something like that too so i can fit a big rad and the viscous fan, strange idea i know but the viscous fan always worked really well, i driove mine tonight and something vibrated like mad and then started squeling, so i think there is something up with my power steering pump allighnment, and i have a missfire too which im putting down to fouled plugs as it cleared up after a few short blats,
get that resistor in the rev counter line mate and sort out your revs problems, ive never heard of it being done before but you need to do it even to get the apexi to read it properly
cut that out due to my brother bending the shit out of it so gonna make up a panel that acts as a slam panel and will include a rad cooling panel too, also makes it easier taking the engine and gearbox out, gotta do the resister and also thinking of fitting a defi vsd
whens the rad due here mate???
not sure, need this right now but apex say they still havent received them yet so gotta wait :mad:
adey1984
14-02-2008, 17:39
this is excelent bud, bet u cant wait to get it on the road. keep us updated with all the pics. the wiring all factory spec? all the gauges and everything working?
just need to put a 10ohm resistor for the rev counter to work and get my rad and im all set for the road :sxoc:
i cant wait
Shirunai
15-02-2008, 08:03
Cool car, rb20 is a nice s13 project. I have read the project missed some text regarding what bits you need to make a swap.
Rb20
gearbox
rb20-ecu
wiring
bang the shit out the firewall
massage the sump
what about propshaft, enginemounts etc does it bolt up perfectly etc ?
bought a mount kit from america of ebayso you can use the s13 crossmember
as i used the mount kit the ca prop fitted perfectly :thumbs:
so you need:
rb engine
rb gearbox
rb wiring loom + ca loom
rb ecu
mount kit
and bang you got all you need :thumbs:
did some work today :D
BIG thanks to pablo13 for doing the biggest flare on my arches i have ever seen i was able to fit my chargespeed wings without cutting the arches for tyre clearence :thumbs:
also fitted my side skirts aswel so here is some pics so far in the build
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj147/potts85/15022008026.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj147/potts85/15022008024.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj147/potts85/15022008025.jpg
i know i need to clean it :wack:
stueywalls1
15-02-2008, 15:52
I would get mr ocd on the case lol
Can I ask how much the mount kit was and did you get hit for import tax?
think the mount kit was about £140 but will have to check
nah didnt get hit with customs tax unlike someone i know (m.d.) lol
stueywalls1
15-02-2008, 17:22
I know you said somewhere that you needed enigne,box,rb20 and s13 loom, ecu and mount kit. What about things like afm,ignition amp,alternator,starter motor?
I am just going to start sourcing all the parts I need and then do it when I have a couple of weeks off for summer.
best thing i would do is find a crash damaged skyline then that way you have everything you need
stueywalls1
15-02-2008, 17:36
I was thinking that... What skylines had the rb20 in ?
stueywalls1
15-02-2008, 17:40
Did the r33 gtst have it too?
think they had the rb25 but i might be wrong
Glad you pleased with it mate :thumbs:
Out of interest did that aerial hole line up now its riveted/screwed on?
to my suprise it did line up
oi, i know i had to pay an extra £40 on the dam mounts lol,
looking well sick with the kit mate, i love it, where did you get that from as it would be a dam good way of covering my crapy bodywork lol
got the front and rear bumpers from replikit and the skirts and fenders are from srb
your engine is looking sweet m.d. :thumbs: well done mate
calicagesracing
15-02-2008, 18:50
top banana mate, looking good:thumbs:
samcourtney86
17-02-2008, 20:44
Looks good mate! Im just doing this conversion now so has been an interesting read! I always thought I was gonna need a r33/s13 custom prop made. did you get the "ruckus racing" engine mounts? sam
my mounts are mgmotorsport ones but they are pretty much the same as the ruckus racing ones
good luck with yours :thumbs:
the best thing i like about mine is the sound it makes
it makes all the waiting well worth it :D
update well sort of :D
got my aerocatches fitted today and gave the car a wash and took a couple of pics or the arches
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj147/potts85/22022008029.jpg
even with 9" with a et30 and 25mm spacers i still need more spacers to fill the rear arches
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj147/potts85/22022008028.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj147/potts85/22022008030.jpg
looks so much better clean and you can just see the areocatches in the pic
-***JOKER***-
22-02-2008, 14:46
this JUST how i want mine to look like... :thumbs:
EDITTED TO PUT : for the thumbs and below
good luck with the car m8...i am jealous now..
nah your get there mate
need some 40mm spacers so if anyone has some and they want to swap them for my set of 15-30mm driftworks ones pm me
need to be 4 stud :thumbs:
looks awesome mate top job love the rear arches:thumbs:
cheers dal :thumbs: ordered my defi vsd so should be here next week so should be all set for you to fit :D
cheers dale :thumbs:
Where did that 'e' come from dude:confused:
when you here that beep:ghey::wack:
got carried away typing :wack:
my bad :D
Dale winton FTW :D:D:wack::p
just got a rad from dan at dbpower and oh my god its a work of art and its mmaassssiivvee :D and looks the nuts
i will get some pics up tomorrow as its too dark now :(
i thought you were getting the apex rad mate??
someone i know just got one and it leaked, not good,
im going to get one of the DB power rads too, they look ace
couldnt wait any longer for the apex one and due to dan at dbpower only living 5 minutes from my house i thought i would get one from him and im glad i did the rad is a piece of art :nod:
how come your fitting a 20 and not a 25 mate?
how come your fitting a 20 and not a 25 mate?
if its for the same reason as me,
1. its massively cleaper to do, and buy
2. fitting the engine is just a bolt in job with no custom parts other than a mount kit needed,
3. the RB20 makes the car really driveable without having too much torque to make the back end overly lively, which is perfect for the relatively light s13,
and lastly , why not lol
getting mine RRD and mapped tomorrow :D, ill let you know how it goes, hows yours going now by the way
the rb20 came up really cheap so had it
plus what m.d. said :thumbs:
getting the rest of my parts tomorrow so car will be done :D
going to see DAL on saturday so he can fit my defi vsd :nod:
hows your going m.d.?
Having seen this in the flesh today I have to say that the pictures don't even come close to doing it justice :notworthy
If mine looks half as good as yours when she's finnished i'll be:D:D:D
All it needs now is a carbon cooling panel & a respray ;)
I saw this the other day also, looks and sounds very nice! :thumbs:
mate i love every day driving mine, apart from the 60 miles to £20 quids worth of petrol bit lol,
just need to get some decent suspension really to make the car more enjoyable to drive
thanks for your comments guys :thumbs:
saw this down at dal(e)s yesterday, its pretty much exactly how i want mine, top job!
my car was drinking petrol like made so after leaving DALs yesturday i got on the phone to my mate Steve Sadler of FCTUNING and went to his house for him to have a look and after twicking the fuel pressure regulator my car hardly uses any petrol to how it did
top work Steve :thumbs:
oh and went for a cruise with some of my mates on saturday night and................................im having a bit of a traction problem :D
car has become a little tail happy now :nod:
but the noise the exhaust makes is unbelieveable i love it :smitten:
carbon cooling panel, yes im so excited i cant wait to get it :thumbs:
let me know as soon as you get them
see mine is now LESS tail happy than it was with the stage 3 CA, im assuming its due to the massive lack of torque that the RB has, i much preferr it now, are the RBs supposed to be set to 15 degrees btdc as i want to check mine soon.
what sort of milage are you getting to a tenner mate ???
well i put a full tank in and got around 240 miles which wasnt that far off from the ca18 and i was giving it loads of stick
Andy Bird
12-03-2008, 19:40
did this get dyno'd?
how much was the full tank mate???
think it was around £53, bleeding ripoff petrol these days
nah still got a few more twicks to do before i dyno it :D
see your getting 45 miles to a tenner, i aint getting anywhere near that, 40 is the best ive had and that was on a run, round town im getting 30 or less
-***JOKER***-
15-05-2008, 23:59
wot happened here???
His rb big ends are on the way out and he cant afford to keep fixing it so hes breaking it now :)
Silencer
16-05-2008, 13:31
What! thats KAK! there goes my hopes of sticking something reliable into the S13
ive had enough of my car as i keep chucking loads of dosh at the damn thing :(but one mans loss is another mans gain :thumbs:
whoooooooooooaaaa, what happened mate,
let me know if your selling anything you think i may be interested in,
any reason why the big ends may have gone mate???
due to the oil pump being small it starved cylinders 2 and 3 :mad:
but i have the same engine and it survived a track day
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