View Full Version : My s13 in all its doom to the time of an s14 build
The evluation of my s13 to then s14.
hope you enjoy this look back in time as i have.... this is basicly my 2 project threads combined with the new one on the end.....
S13 build starts here.... in post 1
S13 spec list in 1st post
S14 build start here in post 239 (http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=311233&page=6)
S14 spec list here (http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showpost.php?p=4715073&postcount=260)
Ok so to the start of the very day i got the s13 shell that once was richie 500+ norris car (if your a new be do a search as this was a very fast car 191mph :wack:)
Well thanks to baba :thumbs: i have have a shell to start my project. im wanting a track/drift car with about 380hp (gearbox :ghey: ) the spec will be somthing like
Engine Mods:-
CA18DET
wiseco forged pistons 1mm over size
Pauter con Rods
custom inletmanifold
60mm throttle body
custom throttle cable
Custom Tubular Manifold
Greddy TD06-20g Turbo
Turbosmart 48mm External Wastegate
Custom S/S Exhaust System 3" all the way
1.9mm metal head gasket
tomei poncams 256 in and ext
tomei valve springs
tomei adjustable cam pulles
Bosch fuel pump
534cc sard injectors
adjustable fuel presure regulator and gauge
cooling:-
apex big alloy rad and a random fan
gtr intercooler with custom s/s pipe work
Transmission:-
OS Giken 3 gearkit sr gearbox
OS Giken Super single clutch kit
s14 lsd diff
apex type 2 short shift
Interior Mods:-
stripped out
Corbeau boss seats passanger side
Cobra Suzuka seat driver side
Cobra pro harness (4point and 3inch all round)
Chassis Mods:-
norrisdesigns/apex shell
Nismo rear sub frame bushes
kyb's AGX shocks with apex -40mm springs
Whiteline anti roll bars front and rear
front/rear strut braces
Stainless steering bush from driftworks
Brake Mods:-
315mm bmw m3 front discs with 200sx s14 4pot calipers
300zx z32 rear brake setup
Goodridge Braided Hoses all round
5.1 dot brake fluid
electronics:-
E0-1 boost controller
VEMS standalone ecu, with l/c, knock, egt, anti lag, maf and wideband lambda all from www.vems.co.uk :plug:
Exteria:-
light weight plastic windows
Jun side skirts
jun rear 3/4 panels
vader c3 front bumper
150cm wide carbon spoiler
home made canards
custom bonnet vent
Personalised plate k 550 hp
alloys wheels
for day to day and show 17" black Work RYVER. 17"x8" ET35 for front and 17"x9" ET38 for the rear
Track alloys Rota GTR's 17x9.5 et25 all round in white
As some of you know it had rust problems which i got sorted out using apex s13 shell sorry to cut up a half decent s13 shell but it was needed. all so used there front windscreen too as mine was cracked.
right 1st pic's
as i got the shell home after a long 14hour round trip sheffield to london and back
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well to the project
Had my head cleaned, ported and new stem seals fitted
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Had my crank polished and balanced
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00011.jpg
my engine block with the pistion in
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Fitted some new bushers and white line arbs
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Got my self a new inlet manifold. Pic is of my new manifold on old onwers car. thanks buffy
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/inletmanifold.jpg
my turbo kit td06 20g
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heat wraped my manifold
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started on the engine bay cleaning
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clearner
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then started on the wiring, its a mess lol
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VEMS unit, egt sensor, a/f sensor and map semsor
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wiring to the stock coil pack
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wiring to the injectors
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injectors 534cc lowz sard
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de spoilered
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fitted a new Stainless steering bush from driftworks.
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Fitted a new fuel pump
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i fited the passager seat with a proper frame from corbra had to drill 2 holes in the frame but it fitted fine loads lower that the old ones too
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i then started on the wiring under the dash
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rims
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there 17" Work RYVER. 2x 17"x8" ET35 for front and 2x 17"x9" ET38 for the rear
road legal slicks anyone!! i love ebay!!!
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Yokohama tyres Advans 235/45/17 to go on my spaire gold alloys for track work :)
big carbon spoiler (150cm wide)
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apex short shift
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new tomie valves and cams fitted
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starting to put it together
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byebye to the rear wiper
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passanger seat and harnes in
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Drivers seat in
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hmmmmmmmmmmmm black Work ryvers:thumbs:
engine, gearbox is now in and also is my 4point harness etc... all in :) im hoping to finish the vems wiring tomorrow but time will tell
my new water pipe work setup as using a custom inletmanifold
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note the new shiny adaptor for the new bosch knock sensor
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engine in but not manifold or turbo yet as i need clean hands for that lol (heat wraping lol)
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had to get this in :)
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I then started to put the vems wiring together and in
injectors and water temp
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cas added
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Tps added
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looking a little neater
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ran the wiring into the passangers side
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start to add the map
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map sensor added but need to sort a proper mount for this yet
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how it looked when i left last night, getting there but i need to do a clean up lol
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coil on plugs wiring started
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earth wiring from the vems
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wiring in the passanger foot well
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And now how the engine is now with all the wiring in :)
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vems is now all in just need to wire it up to my switch for power :D
need to make it a little neater too lol
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the turbo and manifold finaly on
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:) my dad did a little work on the car for me while i have been working away just about ready to start playing with the vems
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sunday me and my dad got on with welding/filling the boot. after which i have a little play with the vems/test things work. after an hour and 1 flat battery i gave up and came home to chat to phatbob.....
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so on monday about dinner time i got the missis down to sit in the drivers seat/turn over as i changed a few setting and had 2hours trying to get the engine to start of which i got it to fire up but no idle at all after yet more talks with phatbob about injector settings!!! :(
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the missis looking a little sleepy bless her x came down to help me on the s13 even tho she had been at work all night!!! thanks sweetie
today i got down and started again from the top with the basic check for fuel. yep check for spark only 3 out of 4! (DOH!) i have killed a coil driver some how :( phone call to phatbob wiring changed to new driver then the right ingition and injector firing order (DOH!) inputted............. yes at last she fire and idled for about 25secounds at a time few more setting change and she now idle a little high and loud due to a hole in the exhust were the ego sensor needs to go gut she idles :)
sorry but the camphone had to be used and i know :ghey: vems :Plug:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/th_MOV00192.jpg (http://s54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/?action=view¤t=MOV00192.flv)
Got a few things done over the weekend not much as had to work sat night :( started sanding down the boot
i got my drifty hand brake fitted
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00196.jpg
front bumper on (note dad sanding boot thanks dad :thumbs:)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00197.jpg
and here is a few pics on the engine bay
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the ca ran for a few 1000 miles and was estimated at 430hp was a little laggy but went well but on inspection of the engine the thrust face had started to go on the block and crack so i sold the ca on as well as the gauges, vems and injectors...... etc it was a sad day :(
so what did i do next could not leave my poor s13 just say there with out an engine...
i then got myself an sr redtop gearbox the lot from nick the doctors (driftworks) old s13 and an hks fan controller
SR20DET with
HKS Pistons
HKS Cams
HKS headgasket
Gearbox
Rocker stoppers
HKS GT-SS Turbo kit
HKS Stainless Manifold
Really nice really nosiey exhaust with SARD Cat
so its all in now and im just waiting on 3 hoses to turn up for the water pipe work and intercooler and then im ready to rock. im booked in with h-dec on the 31st for mapping of the safc 2 and then the 1st im getting the diff welded
pictures to come
well just about sorted the pipe work out now... got the fan to wirer into the relay/ hks fan controller.
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update
well after a few small problems i got the car down to h-dev to see jez for mapping. turned up late dude to traffic :rolleyes: sorry bud
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I am so happy it runs so sweet now...
Jez service is fantastic what a great bloke after spending about 30min sorting abit of wiring and the fuel presure for me. thanks again.
once jez had got his gear installed onto the car for mapping off we went....
jez did the WOT stuff 1st after just a few runs the s13 was feeling alot better mid rev range and it was pulling stronge :) so on to the part throtle stuff :thumbs: afew runs again slowly up the revs etc...
on the way down the s13 was a bit of a pig to drive very jerky and what sounded like missing on part throtle...
all this has now gone it feels competely different alot easer to dive now. i cound not recomend jez / h - dev anuff :Plug:
my sr its not the fastest by for but im running stock injectors etc and only running 0.8bar of boost but dam im loving it! pulls from low down in the revs its great to beable to drive it again
so tomorrows jobs before traxs...
welding to do under the car
make a bracket to hold the rad in place
ducting for intercooler rad behind bonnet
fitting of apex coilovers 8/6 springs
give the car a clean... (its very very well and truely needed)
and if i get time weld the diff
damo
well me and jud got done.....
some of the welding
coilovers fitted
rad bracket made and fitted
some sheat steal/alloy to direct air flow into intercooler/rad behind bumper done.
well the s13 just about lasted traxs...... im was only runing 0.6bar on track but still hunted a few people down :)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/traxs%202007/IMG_1192.jpg
unlucky for my tho...
the last stud at the back of the head holding the exhuast manifold on stapped.
the pipe for the idle control valve blow off
a pipe to the heater inside the car all so came off :(
im now in truoble with a possable cooling problem as i was running a little hotter than normal on the way home. once home something died on the electrics too...
its all fun and games with 200sx init lol im sure she will be back up and running soon
damo
well i gave the s13 a well needed wash today so here are some pictures
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damo
Well the plan is to entre time attack 2008 (allready sent off my form)
i have inlisted tim200 for good or bad to help me prep the s13 (thanks tim)
looking at the regs and the cars from this years comp its going to cost me about £3200 just to make the 1st event and have a car that will hopfully be able to keep up with the slowest ones :wack:
so thats:
race suit/safety clothing for myself.
a cage
1 liter fire extinguisher
getting the s13 uder the 105db noise limit
new alloys and tyres (for track use only)
entry fee based on last years fee + £80-£200 for a timing transponder rent/buy
so the list start to grow on things i need to do...
i need to lose some waight as does the 13 lol so sorted it with tim for next friday (14/9/7) we are going to strip out as much as we can.
to continue the wiaght loss im/we are going to cut all the frame work off from under the stock bonnet.
this should bring it down to that of an carbon fiber one, not forgetting the bonnet pins and then vent to help cool the engine/stiffen the bonnet a little.
The exhaust.
man is it loud i mean i would make no differance if i took it off :rolleyes: so i need to get hold of a new backbox and silancer too.
any ideas?
im in the process of re-booking the car in with h-dev for a power upgrade this should see me between 290-320hp depending on how much boost we can run with the stock afm and wrx 440cc injectors. hoping for 1.1-2bar
Next on the list is rust we have found a little under the car so tim with my help (i.e me making tea for him/wiping his ass to cut this rot out and weld it back up again. will also try to get tim to do me a little seam welding too :thumbs:
once this is sorted the s13 will go for its cage fitting. (still talking to afew people about wear to get this done and costs at min)
brakes????
at the min im running:-
front s14 calipers with the 315mm convertion and stock pads
rear 300zx setup with stock pads
Goodridge Braided Hoses all round
5.1 dot brake fluid
all tho this was ok for traxs. i really needs to change it to keep up with the rest of the s13. to what im unsure as of yet but hoping for some help here so watch this space :nod:
aerodynamics
(picture taken at traxs)
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i dont think im too far behind with the setup i have. i am however thinking and most likely will do. Is what sm and yak have done with there s13.
refitting the stock face lift front bumper with spliter and massive canards made from plastic stuff (dont know the name of it at min)
well thats as far as i have got with my plans at the min and im sure there will be lots of updates to come
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started the waight loss program to day on the s13 today.
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dam my mate tim works fast
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oh here is a before picture
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well thats 90-95% of the sound deading gone :thumbs: thanks tim. he did about 70% of the work lol
but but but we have rust..............
at the rear of both driver and passanger floors pans so monday it will gets cut out and new sheet weldered in.
we also hope to get a little seam welding done around the rear turrets. then with a little clean inside, some paint it should be ready for the cage to go in on the 2nd of next month over 4days at pro cage :thumbs:
damo
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well im a happy man a very happy man. im working away from home so cant work on the s13 but left the car at tim's aka tim200 and he found some rust....
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so tim sorted it (sorry dont have a picture) and then started on the seam welding :D
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i think its dam good work to say hes not done to much of this kind of thing before. we really need to get his s13 project thread up and running hes doing a good job welding that up too
TTHHAANNKKSS TTIIMM :notworthy
damo
no worries m8 it's going to be good when it finished that for sure!!!
necromancer
04-10-2007, 18:52
come on damo more pictures :D
Tim good work there cant believe he's left you doing all the work while he's swanning off somewhere else in the country :wack:
and damo deffo think you need yourself a good boost controller ;)
pmsl there not much going on at min i...
im working in montrose scotland :(
im just collecting parts for her. i have a few now including new alloys :) im waiting for the rollcage to come, about 3 weeks from the group buy on driftworks as procage can no longer supply one for me :( once i have my new gearbox here i will start the taking out of engine and bolting on of all the parts with lots of pictures to come. hopefully by the time this is all done i will have saved the money i need to then send the car down to h-dev to have the 720cc injectors, z32afm fitted and a custom map done :thumb:
damo
Necromancer you asked for some pictures here is a few for you :P
my parts pile is inproving now :) MASSIVE thanks to DB Power :Plug:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01050.jpg
new alloys thanks to Rare Rims :) 17x9 rear 17x8.5 front
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01047.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01048.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01049.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01051.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01054.jpg
damo
really like those wheels mate,
thanks mate so do i :)
did a little bit of work today well i took the turbo off the manifold so it can be moded to fit the sr, im also going to send the turbo off to have it recond so its like new for when i put it on
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00070.jpg
damo
necromancer
07-10-2007, 17:29
quite a collection of parts you got:) wheels are nice as well mega dish :D
also you want a cage i got one going ;) , same as the ones jez sells
yeah its getting there lol got a cage on its way now mate from the group on driftworks and all ready paid sorry mate
damo
well still not much happening with my s13 :( im still working in scotland... i cant wait till this job is finished so i can get some proper work done on my s13 :)
on a plus note i have sorted the gearbox problems i was going to have once the engine is mapped. thanks to bren i will sortly have an osg 3gear kited gearbox in my hands :D
i would just like to say a massive thanks to dan at DBpower :thumbs: as you can tell from my sig picture. DBpower is helping me out with this project now :D
i also need to thank tony2sx. as C THE SIGNS are giving me a hand too :D
this is more a note to myself than anything elss
things to do:-
remove front bumper, side skirts and front wings
engine out
sort rust/seam weld round front turrets sil’s etc...
remove subfames etc
fit new bushes every where refab subframes
buy and fit Alignment arms
refit sub frames
fit large turbo kit to engine
fit oil cooler bits to engine
sort a clutch/flywheel for 400+hp
fit new clutch and osg gearbox
refit engine
fit new/make side exit exhaust system
remove rear bumper and as much crap from behind it as i can
move number plate/fit/wire in new lights for number plate
make rear defuse
refit rear bumper/cutter to fit round new rear defuser
fit rear wider archers
remove dash/exess stuff from behind it.
fit rollcage
refit dash
fit oilcooler
fit new intercooler
fit new alloy rad and fan kit
wire in fans to hks controller
fit new wide front wings and front bummper
make/fit front splitter
wire in fit hks evc pro boost controller
wire in Phormula KS-3 knock analyser
get alignment sorted
fit new big brake kit front/rear
get car painted
get car graphics fitted thanks to C THE SIGNS (tony2sx)
buy z32 afm and new filter
drive car to h-dev to get nismo 740cc injectors, z32afm fitted and let the mapping begin :)
:eek:
it stops the flexing in the shell making the car stiffer and there for the handeling better :thumbs:
Well hopefully i got some more bits on there way :)
Power fc and Commander
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50246&d=1194546884
Holset HX40 Turbo kit including top mount manifold and ex wastegate :) good for 500HP. Only down side to this is the wastegate has a 1.5bar spring fitted so this is what my low boost will be :wack: :D I better get some big injectors then eh!!!
A OSG twin plate clutch :thumbs: to go with the OSG gearbox i got sat here
i also have got 800cc injectors on there way :D
pictures to come
So now i have got to find out what the redtop sr conrods are good for as im still using the stock ones :cry: :annoyed:
anyone know?
thanks
damo
:D
coming soon!!!!!!!!!!!!
Phormula KS-3 knock analyser + pro kit
Eagle steel conrods with ARP 2000 bolts
thanks to jez @ h-dec
vems wideband lambda and egt gauge
thanks to phatbob @ vems
well thanks to tim i have a nice looking s13 open diff thats been weldered :)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00102.jpg
necromancer
16-11-2007, 17:03
damo its no good showing all these parts they need to be fitted man :wack:
and you've been round tony too much you got a pink diff :eek:
Sideways Danny
16-11-2007, 17:07
how come you're using a welded diff?
RTLKyuubi
16-11-2007, 17:22
If you need a hand give a shout :D
I like getting my hands dirty :D
Ryan.
how come you're using a welded diff?
i was having problems on track with the s14 diff i have on with one wheels spinning up so could not get the power down and so losing corner exit speed
i cant afford a 1.5 or 2 way diff so its down to shim s14 diff or weld the open s13 diff....
im going to try the weldered one out for a bit if i cant get on with it will swop in the s14 one back in with it shimed
damo its no good showing all these parts they need to be fitted man :wack:
and you've been round tony too much you got a pink diff :eek:
we have stripped the shell down for welding and cage fitting so it will be a few weeks before we can start fitting parts again.
i still got to build the engine too
pmsl its a great colour :thumbs: :D i know tony will love it anyway
If you need a hand give a shout :D
I like getting my hands dirty :D
Ryan.
will do mate :thumbs: going to end up with a mad rush
i thought you were building the car to go round corners quickly, the only good the welded diff will give is to a pikey drifter, and going round corners sideways is only faster when used on gravel etc when rallying,
there is a very very true saying, ''the most boring looking laps are the fastest'' and thats because there is no time power or effourt spent going sideways or smoking the tyres on launches etc,
i would personally just get the vlsd sorted and throw the mig spec rubbish back to the trampdrift crowd
A welded diff is better than an open diff for getting the power down, despite what m.d.'s mates have obviously told him ;) If you cant afford a 1.5 way or shimmed up S14 one its probably your best bet, although Id imagine with 500bhp it might prove to be a bit of a handful :D :D
EDIT: and its not just for "pikey drifters" either - a 3 way diff is a bloody good piece of equipment on a drift car, and short of spending £400+ on a 2-way about the best option available.
gaz_moose
19-11-2007, 22:01
i agree with the doc.no harm trying out the welded diff its not as if its cost you loads and it might teach you something (knowledge is power lol)
yeah i agree too and its what im thinking so im going to try it out should be fun lol
cliffb75
20-11-2007, 15:21
I kind of agree with what MD is saying, even if I don't agree with how he is saying it....
A welded diff is fine for straight line traction or for drifting where you need equal torque distribution and both wheels spinning together. For a track car, I would expect it to introduce a few problems.
Because both wheels are trying to turn at the same speed, any time you corner you are effectively forcing the tyres to slide. That may be the inside wheel going fast, the outside slow, or a bit of both. In any case, this is bad news for the tyres, since it is introducing unneccesary heat and wear into them, so they will tend to 'go off' much quicker. It will also upset the balance of the car - there is likely to be initial oversteer on turn in, probably followed by understeer as you initially apply the power and then finally oversteer again as the wheels break traction.
IMO, for track work you would actually be better off with an open diff than a welded one, and try and improve the traction by reducing weight transfer away from the inside wheel.
But as you know, the best way is a proper LSD.:)
yeah i really want a 2 or 1.5 way diff but just not go the funds :(
cliff has a much much better way of explaining what im getting at,
just he explains it where as i will just say that a welded diff is just balls, which it is unless your drifting,
if your spinning a wheel on the inside edge then ease off the power a little, you wont go any slower as your not wasting your time spinning,
that saying is not what my mates have told me, but people who acctually know what they are talking about, so believe what you want docwra :thumbs:
right then girls and boys................
cliffb75, gaz_moose, docwra, m.d. and Sideways Danny...........
**** itttttttttttttttttttttttttt.................
hit the credti card today and got a 2way diff on its way :thumbs:
:( im so poor :(
haha, mate, you know it will be worth it when you get it, altho wouldnt a 1.5 way be better for what your doing???
2way will be fine :)
sm is doing fine with a 2way. i like the extra controll you get over the rear using heal and toe
damo
GmasterT
23-11-2007, 11:37
Oh dear, welduu would have been fine for a while mate, its only in the wet they become a pig with understeer...
I am really starting to get peeeved with people giving opinions they know nothing about though :indiff:
yeah.... i was sure it would have been fine, as not much in it between a welded and 2way anyway
that saying is not what my mates have told me, but people who acctually know what they are talking about, so believe what you want docwra :thumbs:
Your mates dont know what they are on about?? Fair play to you admitting that m.d. ;)
Again, Im talking from personal experience, where I have found the welder to be a lot more predictable and at least to feel faster than an open diff, but I dont argue with Cliff - I can totally see whay he's saying about tyre temps mind you.
In a shocker though, I do agree a 1.5 way would be better than a 2-way, but then a 2-way is a shitload better than a welder, open or LSD :eek:
Yeah, and im my usual way of being different again Im going to try a torsen type diff :wack:
Yeah, and im my usual way of being different again Im going to try a torsen type diff :wack:
Thats what I use. They work well :)
I've got a 1.5 way to try as well - just got to get my car running.
Yeah, and im my usual way of being different again Im going to try a torsen type diff :wack:
cool you was using a r32 diff before right?
Thats what I use. They work well :)
I've got a 1.5 way to try as well - just got to get my car running.
good good... let us know how you get on with it. will be lots of fun in time attack next year with all the 200sx that are going to be competing :sxoc:
well got a few thing that turned up in the post today
carbon fiber roof scoop from driftworks
and from jez at h-dev
KS-3 knock / detonation sensor and pro kit
1.6 mtal head gasket
ik24 plugs
more stuff to come :D
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01071.jpg
Your mates dont know what they are on about?? Fair play to you admitting that m.d. ;)
Again, Im talking from personal experience, where I have found the welder to be a lot more predictable and at least to feel faster than an open diff, but I dont argue with Cliff - I can totally see whay he's saying about tyre temps mind you.
In a shocker though, I do agree a 1.5 way would be better than a 2-way, but then a 2-way is a shitload better than a welder, open or LSD :eek:
yeah you carry on thinking that mate if it gets you through the day :thumbs:
but you have a valid point, it may feel faster, in much the same way as a rock hard car feels like its going round the corner quicker than a softer car, when infact its more that the harsh feedback etc from a hard car makes it feel faster even if it isnt,
common thing that boy racers in there saxos etc get when they lower the car to the bump stops, feels like its on rails but infact the car would have gone round the corner as fast with the car standard,
that was the feeling i had WHEN I DROVE A CAR WITH A WELDED DIFF :thumbs:
ok ok less of the fighting on my project thread people
cliffb75
23-11-2007, 18:31
Thats what I use. They work well :)
I've got a 1.5 way to try as well - just got to get my car running.
In theory the Torsen is great for high grip tarmac. The problems come when you need to ride curbs or on split mu surfaces, where the diff suddenly becomes open due to a loss of resistance on one wheel which the gears need in order to work. - Have you guys found that problem at all?
I ended up getting a kaaz 2 way for the simple reason that it was available at a good price:) A 1.5 or even 1 might be better (in terms of helping predictable turn in on the overrun), but there are pro's and con's to all the types.
However, I'd stand by the fact that for track work, a welder is probably last choice, since by design it is trying to make at leat one wheel slide/spin when cornering, and thats not really what you want for a track car IMO.
Good laps times are about keeping the average speed high - to do that you need to have a balance of everything - acceleration, braking and handling for mid corner speed. Its nice having loads of power to accelerate you quickly, but if you have to go slowly round the coners you will then need even better brakes to bring you down to the lower speed required at each corner. Its alla bout improveing EVERYTHING in proportion. If one aspect is left behind, the whole thing falls over.
Anyway, don't mean to sound depressing. Keep up the good work - I know the amount of effort it takes to do this kind of thing, so well done for getting out there and having a go:nod:. Once you've started you can develop the car from there :thumbs:
In theory the Torsen is great for high grip tarmac. The problems come when you need to ride curbs or on split mu surfaces, where the diff suddenly becomes open due to a loss of resistance on one wheel which the gears need in order to work. - Have you guys found that problem at all?
Yup - which is why I'm going to try the 1.5 way. On tight corners my car tries to lift the inside rear wheel, which effectively leaves you with bugger all traction as you apply power to come out of the corner.
This might not be a problem next year as I'll be running harder springs, so hope fully less body roll.
i understand what your saying cliff and i know how much work your putting into your mad project :P
i have got a kaaz 2 way too lol down to the price i have got it for :D
im going back to vems too i hope and dumping the pfc :D
more parts cleaned and painted thanks to tim
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00107.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00108.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/tims%20work/rack.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/tims%20work/damospics010.jpg
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http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/tims%20work/damospics006.jpg
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http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/tims%20work/damospics0041.jpg
big thanks to tim :sxoc::notworthy
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http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/tims%20work/damospics002.jpg
again thanks to tim
ok to explain what the pictures above are about
you have got the subframes all cleaned up and repainted
the front 2 archs all de rusted, welded up and re-under sealed :)
well got a few more bits that have turned up new :)
one big turbo, manifold wastegate, osg twin plate clutch and pfc thats for sale now :Plug:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00903.jpg
This holset 40 turbo is a little big :wack: told from last owner it will spool up around 3500-4000 so will see how its goes
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00904.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00905.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00906.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00907.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00908.jpg
Well me and tim have started to bolt it back together :)
Sorry about the poor pictures my camra phone dont like taking pictures now :(
so thats the cross member and the steering rack back together with new bushs
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00136-1.jpg
and then it bolted to the s13 with my apex gen 1 coilovers. we also got the front hubs and DB-power tension rods all bolted on too but no pictures of this at min
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00137-1.jpg
We then started on striping the diff and shiming it up. due to all the oil i only got a before and after picture but tim has one of it in bits at his so hope to get that off him tomorrow and posted up :thumbs:
before
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00134-1.jpg
after
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00135-1.jpg
again i would like to thank tim for all his help :thumbs::notworthy
here is some better pictures from yestodays work :)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00155-1.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00140-1.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00139-1.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00138-1.jpg
me and tim have got a little more work done again... we are getting it back on all 4 wheels asap so we can move it down to a unit i have got the use of for a few weeks so we can finish the welding in the dry :)
rear subframe and diff put to gether
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00141-1.jpg
DBpower looking collers (thanks dan :thumbs:)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00142-1.jpg
subframe on the car
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00144-1.jpg
we also go the rest of my dbpower arms and the hubs on too but was to dark to take a picture
again thanks to tim and also dan at DBpower you got the arms out to me asap :thumbs:
hhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmm
VVVVEEEEMMMMSSSS with full stand alone loom :) :D :)
THANKS PhatBob
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01658.jpg
and the coil pack for the waste spark setup :D
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01660.jpg
well got a little bit done today thanks to the help of my dad (richard), tim and linda and her dad (steve)
so thanks to tim again :notworthy working on the s13 when im away he finished off the rear end and put the s13 on all fours :thumbs: then thanks to steve for the trailor and my dad for driving linda/tim for helping push the s13 about its now in the unit :thumbs: :D so we can get the welding finished and then carry on with the project :smash:
on all fours and on the trailor just fits
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00150.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00149-1.jpg
and in its space in the unit
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00152.jpg
not a very good picture but gives you an idea of how the inside looks (not good with the dash half in/out)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00153-1.jpg
so next weekend hopefully the cage can go in :thumbs:
got some work done over the weekend
Front lights fitted and wired in
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01662.jpg
front chargespeed wide front wings fitted
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01663.jpg
roll cage test fitted
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01665.jpg
and started looking at how im going to fit the light winds
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01664.jpg
well i need to say thanks to www.xyberautos.com as danny from them has been a great help and i now have a set of gauges winging there way over.
there the prosport stepper ones as seen in this thread
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=272418
you can get
Boost gauge (BAR/PSI)
Oil Pressure gauge (BAR/PSI)
Oil Temperature gauge
Water Temperature gauge
Voltage gauge
Air Fuel ratio gauge
Exhaust Gas Temperature gauge
im going for
Boost gauge (BAR/PSI)
Oil Pressure gauge (BAR/PSI)
Oil Temperature gauge
Water Temperature gauge
Voltage gauge
and fuel presure which is due out soon
thanks again to DBpower, xyberautos.com and vems of which i owe a great deal too :Plug::Plug::Plug:
well got some more work done on the s13 today well i had a small army of my bro, tim and my dad so erm i just did a little wiring of which i have not that much to do now really, anyway on to the pictures and video
ok so will start with roll cage taken out tiding some wiring up (bro :) )
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00172.jpg
a picture of the mity tim who i owe a lot to for all his help
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00170.jpg
mark (bro) cleaning and preping the inside rear for painting, tim bolting cage in
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00175.jpg
my dad marking up for fitting of the roof scoop
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00176.jpg
video of my dad cutting hole for it
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/th_MOV00177.jpg (http://s54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/?action=view¤t=MOV00177.flv)
and it fitted
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and just to prove my missis soon to be my wife and can and likes to work on my s13 here she is
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00162.jpg
little bit more done today thanks to every one again
firewall all weldered up (thanks tim)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01676.jpg
cleaning up/sorting for paint inside the s13 (bro with the hover)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01681.jpg
then i started stripping off all the carpet glue from the blue carpet i had fitted
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01677.jpg
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still got a bit togo removing the glue but i never got a picture with it all just about gone :(
the missis also polished the bonnet for us
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01678.jpg
were well on track now m8..
sorry for the crapy pictures used the cam fone :( welding is alot better than it looks
So tim today finished off the welding needed for the cage :D
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00181-2.jpg
We bolted it all down and so its now all in and finished, we then started / finished off cleaning the inside for painting and then painted......
Please note we did not prep at all on the inside justed cleaned it so the paint would take. Its not the best paint job in the car but it looks clean and so im happy.
pictures taken at half way doing the back of car so more to come tomorrow
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00182-1.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00183-1.jpg
Next the seats and harness will go back in and then the rest of the wiring new switch pannel, the dash back in job done in the car :D
That leaves body work to sort and paint, engine and vems to fit / wire in. exhuast to sort then its start /run in engine get graphics sorted.
Then get the s13 mapped up and its done :)
shit so much to do yet
marty_t3
27-02-2008, 23:04
Looks like the same cage in Yaks car. Are you going to weld the front feet of the cage to the mounting brackets on the floor? We drilled them and welded on some captive nuts to the brackets before welding the brackets to the floor.
Looks like the same cage in Yaks car. Are you going to weld the front feet of the cage to the mounting brackets on the floor? We drilled them and welded on some captive nuts to the brackets before welding the brackets to the floor.
This had allready been done to the brackets 1 for the top and 2 on the side for bolting it down so we just welded the brackets to the floor
The cage is from the DW group buy fabricage i think it came from
have you though of adding bracing to your roll cage so it helps side impact and stiffens your body. i added a cross brace that hold the steering
yeah i wanted to add some stuff to it but i just dont have the time now... i maydo at a later date, yours looks very good
paint just almost finished inside the car but ran out of paint and money to buy paint with :eek:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01685.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01684.jpg
Fair play mate this is going to be awesome when finished :thumbs:
al tell ya sumat getting mi head round the back of that roll cage bracket to weld it in was a LOVELY job to do lol...
its realy coming on now he's defo going to be ready for the first race..
the car weigh's fook all its going to fly(or not lol)
seats and harness back in
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00185-1.jpg
side skirts trail fit....
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00188.jpg
apex engine
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00191-2.jpg
well not much of an up date as too much time got wasted fixing / sorting the clutch and gearbox for this weekend
BIG thanks to Dan @ DB Power again :wack: as the rad, fan kit and oil cooler are now here...
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00214.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00213.jpg
new light weight rear window fitted and rear spoiler back on
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00215.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00217.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00218.jpg
turbo manifold trail fitted
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00216.jpg
and then the turbo :eek:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00219.jpg
the rest of the time was spent sortting the feed and return pipes for the turbo + tapping for egt sensor.
we just need the turbo elbo now and the engine can go it
currently working in the unit sorting the wiring out but here is a few pictures for ya
whats left from the s13 engine loom i dont need for the sr convertion
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00229.jpg
my new loom just about finished
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00230.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00231.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00232.jpg
winged sump fitted
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/Enginejustaboutreadytodrop.jpg
rear window trim sorted
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/Windowfinished.jpg
my rears with toyo r888 255/40/17 :D
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00237.jpg
ok how many gauges do i really need! one more to fit lol
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00228.jpg
whats this engine in the bay
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00226.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00227.jpg
ok so thats 80% of the wiring done only missing 3wires for the waste spark setup and 4 for fan controll :D
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00240.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00239.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00238.jpg
ok so massive massive thanks to dan from dbpower :notworthy
he came up today to fit the little brake kits :D
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01687.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01688.jpg
hey good looking!!
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01689.jpg
hmmmmmmm i need bigger brakes
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01690.jpg :eek:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01691.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC01692.jpg
ok so only my work rims fit on the rear and have to get a custom made 30mm spacer to fit the front work rims.
im going to buy some 18's i think with the money i hope to get from selling my old 315mm kit and s14 calipers and the brand new rota d1 and ssr's 17" alloys that dont fit over the brakes :cry::cry::cry:
again thanks to dan for all his hard work today :thumbs:
the fronts are Brembo's with a 345mm disc so we could get them under my 17s :D rear are 322 :)
ok so big thanks to my dad he sent all day today making my 31mm front spacers and then fitting them and my front alloys :D here is the mms pictures i got off him today
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/Newfrontspaces.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/Wheelon.jpg
Dan@DB-Power
17-03-2008, 14:13
Damo :smash::smash:
That picture of me is awful :wack:
Anyhow, was a good day, and we got everything that needed to be fitted, fitted :)
Will look forward to hearing how they go :)
Dan :thumbs:
6 pot............ 6 big pistons :D :Plug:
take a look here to see them vs s14 one
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/showpost.php?p=3656197&postcount=1
:Plug:
my dads a star on his day off hes been working on my s13 for me :D
THANKS DAD
So the engine and gearbox is all bolted in properly and the alloy prop is now fitted too
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/Prop.jpg
and hes start to make me an exhuast system too :D
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/Turbo.jpg
yeah exhuast all fitted just needs waste gate plumbing into it now
so its getting there!
i have finished making up wiring for the car just need to fit it all now.....
teins are now fitted :D
we (me, dad, tim) just need to sort last bit of fab work / pipe work for rad / intercooler / mounts for MSD coil pack and catch tank. then i can fit all the wiring and start testing the vems so touch wood should have her started tomnorrow / sunday
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00248.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00249.jpg
cool, im glad you getting on with them well...
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:wave: crapy coil on plug off to the bin...
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hello waste spark :D :D
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00250.jpg
As above i dont see why not just needs to be wired in right but then i dont know that much about it :wack:
well to up date: pics of the wiring im doing :eek: hope to have it started tomorrow now as its taking longer than i guessed pulls taking diff off to remove a shim and then refit did not help...
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00253.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00254.jpg
well just centre console to sort with a new switch pannel and fuses plus IAT / CAS disk to fit and a little be here and there and its done
vems is in :D :Plug:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00257.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00258.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00259.jpg
:)
VEMS :Plug: again :eek:
wideband and egt gauge fitted in left vent :)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00261.jpg
hopefully last update before running... got a stupid computer / driver missing for usb to connect to vems problem :( and need some new power steering pipe work but here is some pictures
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00262.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00263.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00264.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00266.jpg
lol thanks mate
well here is an engine pic.....
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00268.jpg
Evilchap
02-04-2008, 15:31
That intake is HUGE! Map ECUs are definatley the way forward, ditching AFMs give you some real inlet diameter potential!
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :PLug: to every one that has help me vems dbpower dad bro etccc .... lol
its running at last
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/th_MOV00269.jpg (http://s54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/?action=view¤t=MOV00269.flv)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/th_MOV00270.jpg (http://s54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/?action=view¤t=MOV00270.flv)
lol
well its got a map, 1bar of boost now and dam is it laggy 0.5 bar at 4000 and 1bar at 4500 to 7300 rev limit hoping to add a bit more boost tomorrow.
Massive thanks to tony C the signs for adding some colour to my s13 today
half way
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00272.jpg
and erm allmost finished just needs vems logo
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00275.jpg
oh yeah and erm :D
new dry weather alloys :D
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00271.jpg
marty_t3
04-04-2008, 11:04
Good job Damo :thumbs: See you on Sunday :)
Fake Ben Taylor
04-04-2008, 14:03
good work damo :thumbs: thats not massively laggy, just raise the rev limit ;)
very nice looks great and it should go and stop quite well to
Don't see the major problem here? Your gonna be in the mid to high revs or most of the time anyway, as it is a track car. You should never really get affected by lag that much.
Matthew
thanks lads,
yeah i hope it will be all ok finaly and just finnish the car for the regs just hope it passes ok now... i have got some alignment problems as i have no toe in front and rear make the car a little unstable so going to have to fix this by eye but that got to be better than it handles now
thanks again to every one thats help me with the s13 and wish me luck.
just going to upload some pictures now :D
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00276.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00277.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00278.jpg
Actual_Ben_Taylor
04-04-2008, 22:25
lol
well its got a map, 1bar of boost now and dam is it laggy 0.5 bar at 4000 and 1bar at 4500 to 7300 rev limit hoping to add a bit more boost tomorrow.
Damn thats laggy!
Unless thats pushing 450 at the wheels I'd be buying a new turbo!!!
Damn thats laggy!
Unless thats pushing 450 at the wheels I'd be buying a new turbo!!!
:D it mite will be very soon :D;)
Should piss that with an HX40.
Fake Ben Taylor
06-04-2008, 19:33
Damn thats laggy!
Unless thats pushing 450 at the wheels I'd be buying a new turbo!!!
its also now not that laggy :D
damo was telling me hes now getting 1.5 by 4k with the wastegate wound out as much as possible to keep boost down lol he reckons full 1.8bar by 3.5k in a couple of weeks after a few changes occur
scottdawg
07-04-2008, 17:46
Was great watchin you mate. You got alot braver towards the end with some nice tyre smoke round the bends :)
thanks mate :thumbs: yeah as the day went on i started to get more trust in the s13
ben i was a bit out with what i was saying, we have done some data logging and getting full 1.4bar at 4400, still i think we can get it down under 4000 tho and hope to push 500hp need to do some working on with inlet temps as we are seeing a power saping 47c :(
OK....... So its 6weeks to the next race at knockhill (18th of may) and we have a bit of work to do on the s13 before then:-
fit new engine and start running
get wheel alignment done
make / fit new fuel system
get new exhuast system made / fitted
start working on aero desgin / fit rear diffuser front spliter
get new engine mappped and hopfully dynoed
4.5k really isnt that laggy when your on it,
mine hits a bar at exactly 4.5k and takes off, and as long as you rev it properly :wack: then i get no lagg between gear changes at all,
and your turbo is bigger (and more expensive lol) than mine, id say your doing really well there.
where 1.8 bar of boost will kick in will be interesting tho lol
well the fitting of the new engine is going well.... moving the intercooler up front due to the 47c inlet temp when mapping and the 52c inlet temp we got on track the intercooler became an interwarmer at donington as it was warm to touch
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00283.jpg
yep thats so ture....
well....
The db-power engine fitting is going slowly due to lack of time :( all tho i did have it running for a few min to bleed the water system to find i had a fuel leek so off with the inlet manifold to sort that......
BUT then phill from archenemy.co.uk and his mate poped up to sort my rear arches out thanks very much :thumbs:
i got the lip rolled flat and a small 10mm flare giving me 15mm more room so i hope the new alloys and tires will fit one i have them now
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00286.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00284.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00285.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00287.jpg
back to the engine :D
sorted the fuel leek. was the o ring on injector 4, i primed the system with the inlet off and no fuel poring out... back on with the inlet and thats as far as i have got... dont think i will get to do anymore now for 2weeks so its going to be close again for knockhill. think the mapping will be cut sort and boost left at 1.4bar as the alignment/aero is more important at min
Dan@DB-Power
28-04-2008, 09:24
woop woop it lives....
:cool:
run in time :annoyed::ghey:
yep! :D
took it for a drive today i got all of a mile before something started to make the car shake all over the place......
i found this
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00290.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00289.jpg
the damage was not to bad. the plastic outer was messed up and now useless. the tyre had only gone through 6 different wire outers and nothing a bit of tape could fix just need to make up something to keep the wiring up and out of the way now :thumbs:
should get this done tomorrow and will also do the 1st oil change. had the engine running about an hour now and not been to soft on it :D
started the front spitter build
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00291.jpg
well today i cleaned and err cleaned and err cleaned im waiting on a few thing so not much elss i could do really
looking a bit better
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00293.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00295.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00292.jpg
front spilter painted
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00294.jpg
oh and water injection :D
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00296.jpg
we started to map it all up today and..........................
its bust :( :( :( :cry: something wrong the cutch got about 10miles in to the mapping and was about to do some WOT runs and could not get a gear turn engine off and we could so guess its the clutch find out next tuse morning when i take the gearbox off... looking like no knock hill for me
scottdawg
06-05-2008, 19:32
Sh*t
thats horrible news :( hope you can get it sorted soon
yeah if i can get it fixed tuse morning befor im ment to be at DCMS for tracking at 3pm then i can make knock hill but doomed if i dont! its a pain as everything just started to go well with it :( got a new clutch line to fit so will try that befor we take the box off.
i was just hoping to drive round a bit more that morning then get the tracking sorted do an oil change and then finish the mapping for 1.6bar untill the new fuel system goes in.
cross your fingers for me please
well and truly crossed, toes an all :thumbs:
Fingers crossed mate, looking forward to seeing you at knockie hopefully :)
Dunc.
Fingers crossed here too.
D'oh thats not good :(
Hopefully its something simple like the cluch arm pivot.
Fingers X'd for you mate.
crap news fella hope its a simple fix Fingers crossed
marty_t3
07-05-2008, 13:25
Good luck mate, just give us a shout if you need any spares or anything.
necromancer
07-05-2008, 13:53
bad news damo hope its a simple fix :thumbs:
well today i had a very not so nice drive up to DCMS to see Graham for the alignment.
all i can say, how the hell did i get round donnington in one peace the car is crap to drive jumps all over the place :(
BUT with a massive THANKS to Graham @ DCMS its now a dream and i had a great drive back.
so i ran out of time for the 1st round of TA so we did the alignment by eye and it was as taken by Graham
settings are passanger then drivers side
Front
camber = -1.2deg / -3deg
toe = 1/2 in / 3 in
Rear
camber = -3deg / -2.2deg
toe = 1/2 in / 5 in
:wack:
there now a much better setting and all the same :D
just go at oil change, mapping, diff, front splitter to fit/do before friday night now :eek:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/DSC01913.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/DSC01912.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/DSC01914.jpg
thanks again to DCMS :thumbs:
Your welcome mate any time good look for the weekend and see you sunday:thumbs:
scottdawg
13-05-2008, 20:50
Yeah good luck mate. See you at knockhill :)
thanks lads but mite not make it now (all was something going wrong!!!! why cant you just be ok for 1 week!!!!) as just taken the missis home in it and lost all brakes and had loads and loads of smoke out of engine bay i jumped out of car poped the bonett and looks like a metal bake pipe has gone :(
i was just gald it was not a fire lol will try get it fixed tomorrow after my interview
scottdawg
13-05-2008, 21:01
Wish I could be of help mate but I'm always at work, just got in. Sh*t when I'm paid til 17.00.
i know how you feel sometimes bud.... will have a look at it in the morning but its time im sort of as i have got an interview at 12 and little time free for the car tomorrow :(
think i will ring up and tell them i cant make the interview so i can fix the car :wack:
brakes fixed new pipe made and fitted system bleeded :D
brakes seam even better now :wack:
once the linda has left tonight about 10 ish im going to pop down to the unit and fit my diff and do the last oil change. stolen the keys so i can use it tonight :)
going to map the car up thurs night now as no time left hope it all goes ok
wish us luck!
scottdawg
14-05-2008, 17:34
Good luck mate!
Looks like me and Jen are gonna hang around Scotland Saturday and then go to Knockhill Sunday.
Oh yeah...... My phone is shagged if you've tried ringing.
ok mate, come say hello bud
scottdawg
14-05-2008, 17:46
Ok fella.
Fake Ben Taylor
14-05-2008, 17:56
good luck matey :)
dam just fitted the nismo diff and dam is it louad i mean its so wineee off for mapping now.
will have a look at the diff tomorrow
Fake Ben Taylor
15-05-2008, 17:31
is it rr mapping and as such a power figure after it? :)
sorry ben its on the road mapping and :cry: its died think its a big end gone :cry:
Mate really gutted for you :(
scottdawg
15-05-2008, 20:56
Jesus!
yeah its bad..... i still have my old engine tho so think we are going to try do a rebuild tomorrow and get an engine in and then finish the mapping tomorrow night.
depends on how much damage has been done
Fake Ben Taylor
15-05-2008, 21:51
:(
started at 7:00
engine out and diff out at 11:30
had dinner
stripped by 3 and oh poop.....
well for some unknown reason number 4 oil jet is bust :( = dry little end = very stiff to turn = dead big end = all shells fudged and crank is now scrap....
sit down have a think what to do with my dad
4 start to strip down my old redtop sr
5:30 had tea
on a plus note im now sat here typing away as i watch my dad start to look into rebuild the engine with the crank shells from my old sr that look like new :wack: even tho its had loads and loads of abouse :eek:
with some luck will be setting off from here at 12ish tomorrow once mapping is finsihed in the morning :wack:
got afew pictures may put them up once home
go go go crap news about the engine hope it pays off sounds like you and your dad are working VERY hard
yeah its hard work bud, main cleaning all the old shell bits out its like some one dropped a tin of glitter into the engine
Brilliant will have to shake your hand on Sunday mate :D
we are doomed, i tell you this car just does not want to go at all!!!! :( :mad: :(
we are not going to knock hill :cry:
bottem end is all fine but now have top end problems. started to fix it as have bits needed but missed the trailor pick up so im giving up and getting some sleep :wack: no way could i drive to KH on only 2 hours sleep
will get it all sorted for round 3 i hope :whip:
ok so here are some pictures
changing over the diff back to stock as the nismo one i got dont fit right with the shafts i have :(
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00308.jpg
then started to strip the engine out
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00309.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00310.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00311.jpg
broken oil jet the pain of all this :(
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00312.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00315.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00320.jpg
all that was left of the big end shell number 4
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00313.jpg
so the rebuild... not in any order...
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00317.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00318.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00319.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00322.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00323.jpg
big thanks to Dan for letting me keep my old engine, which was part ex in for the new one from him of we could not have rebuilt with out it
oh and here is why im only ment to use the unit at weekends now :eek:
we make big mess
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00316.jpg
Fake Ben Taylor
18-05-2008, 05:46
good work but sadly to no avail :(:( hope you have better luck for rnd 3
it lives i tell you. runns a little rich but with a little playing will have 1.6bar
front splitter and diff to fit
well been out mapping and hit the 8000rpm limit a few timesssss.......... stupid dad driving and me mapping he was to busy looking and keeping the boost at the right level forgot about the rev counter :(
but its all good engines running great (touch wood). will do some more mapping tomorrow as we was getting a little bit of det at 1.6bar all tho the water injection will sort that out i only want to use it to keep egt's down.
still at 11.6 -11.3 afr at the riched point the egt's are 853c so thats good may even take a little fuel out yet will see how it goes once i take a degre out of the timing where the det is tomorrow
Fake Ben Taylor
30-05-2008, 20:58
brilliant :) hows it feel at the higher boost? still 1.4 left ;)
Feels faster that my old sr. you get a right boot at 3800-4300 the hp dubbles there easy, i must be near if not over 400hp now, well i hope so lol
running more timing at 1.4bar than the old engine so thats good news too 9der vr's 12.25deg but it was a very safe map on the old sr
my dad, when we give it wot 1st, 2nd and into 3rd my dad change gear at just over 5000rpm pooping it a little lol :D i cant wait to finish mapping tomorrow if i get time will go to 1.8bar and see what thats like
nope sorry.... its something im looking into for myself shortly.
i mint if i can fund it. try and get to atp before the weekender for a dyno run, get them to change the map a little if there is free space....
Fake Ben Taylor
30-05-2008, 21:36
why apt? the racing line are good and cheaper and closer :) theyve recently tweaked blings car and did awesome work with james r32 :)
apt have mapped vems before... will give them a ring and see
I FOUCKING HATE SR's there crap bring back my CA :cry: :cry:
you will see me tomorrow at ta but not in the 200
the same with the weekender :cry:
jrtuning
31-05-2008, 19:15
bloody hell mate not again :(
dare i ask what happened this time?
Fake Ben Taylor
31-05-2008, 20:03
was about to ask the same....:(
We dont know!!!! It just dont go at all im gutted, i give up on building cars myself
My dad is doing an autopsy tomorrow.
All i know is the alterantor packed up and now the engine will not run for more than 30sec and then the starter motors may have packed up or the engine is very very ****ed
scottdawg
31-05-2008, 22:23
sh*t:cry:
We dont know!!!! It just dont go at all im gutted, i give up on building cars myself
My dad is doing an autopsy tomorrow.
All i know is the alterantor packed up and now the engine will not run for more than 30sec and then the starter motors may have packed up or the engine is very very ****ed
Awww mate!! thats Gutting :( :cry:
no mate! let us know what happened :(
why apt? the racing line are good and cheaper and closer :) theyve recently tweaked blings car and did awesome work with james r32 :)
gave then a ring and want £500 :eek:
Now thats poop. Well i have sent a pm to gary about dyno time and what im after, so will see what he says. hope to have the engine back in at the weekend depending on what wrong with it.
gave then a ring and want £500 :eek:
Good God, what for?
adjusting my map that i have done so far, think racing line would just start from scratch with that price which is more than apt would charge for the same thing
Fake Ben Taylor
02-06-2008, 18:38
adjusting my map that i have done so far, think racing line would just start from scratch with that price which is more than apt would charge for the same thing
£500 is a lot tbh when i enquired about them mapping mine they wanted a lot less and they only charged £200 to do james r32 on the safc:)
Fake Ben Taylor
02-06-2008, 18:47
.
dont forget that bad news travels fast, good news takes a hell of a lot longer,
they could be perfectly competant but have had a few bad things happen so people hear about those and not all there good work.
Yeah its poop,
Well engine strip down done and mains 4-3 and 1 have spun but every thing elss looks good.
Thats what i get for using the shells and crank out of my old sr into the new one. Did hope it would be ok just to get me past round 3 of ta.
Have a new crank and acl race shell to go in so will be running by this weekend yey then its just a matter of sorting a trip to apt for sortting out/looking over my map that i have done :thumbs:
The crank the main shells spun on should just poslish up. im going to read up about the redtop head flowing better than the vvt head. if its true im going to rebuild my old sr with a high spec as to hopefully get 500hp and a 3700rpm power band for next years racing
hope your going to give the engine and oil pump a good clean out:nod::)
yeah its all off to sheffield engine services tomorrow to be properly cleaned out
i have seen so many engines go pop shortly after having the mains/bigends changed :nod:
we stripped the engine down and cleaned it out best we could using brake cleaner and compressed air before fitting the crank and bearings from the old sr. which was the problem i think secound hand shell. i hoped it would get me through round 3 of ta
well as some know from reading the thread in the s14 tech section my stock liners are fudged
Oh crap :cry:
Got a call today as the rest of the engine got stripped down and the liners are..........
yep fudged.
"I have 0.004" - 0.006" out of shap at the top and number 3 is cracked. It looks like number 3 has had hold of the pistion as it has marks on the side of it too"
Anyway, I have yet another sr20det to go in again :eek: all built. just needs the box putting on and then dropping into the engine bay and hooking up
3rd time the charm, i hope :cry:
Please wish me luck guys got the 3sr in 300miles intoday and its running fine so far,
not mapped properly running 1.1bar but it lives all the same yey :D
and the bigest thing is its on the drive :D
thanks everyone, lets hope it all goes well on the dyno. no racing up the hill now tho cant risk it :( will wait till after the trip to apt :)
Dell today was a good bad day.....
Good as the engine held together and took some hard 1st gear to limiter runs and 6500 rpm laruch :eek: only on 1.1bar tho
Bad as i need a new inlet can after i messed up with putting the head back togehter and my manifold has cracked
Massive thanks to dan (dbpower) for looking at it and finding out what was wrong today and put it right to stop more damage at the weekender. should be all sorted by end of next weekend :D
Here is a few picture of a little bit of work we have been doing....
Front splitter which we had fitted for the hill climb
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00007-1.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00008-1.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00010-2.jpg
Well as some know i had a small cam problem making a little ratal and the manifold was bust up....
so i changed the cam to a non vvt one
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00012-1.jpg
and got the manifold weldered up and added some bracing
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00013.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00014.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00015.jpg
well its been a bad year for me and i give up for now is all i can say....
way to much hard work and £££ has now gone in to this project and it will now be off road again not sure for how long but if it ever lives again i will let you all know
thanks for all the nice coments i have had and the advice
damo
s14_dave
04-07-2008, 16:16
what happened?
Fake Ben Taylor
04-07-2008, 16:27
what dave said!!!!!!!
what happened?:cry:
scottdawg
04-07-2008, 16:45
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry: :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
Gutted mate. Kev told me you didn't make it to Apt. What's happened?
I dont know, but knowing he recently buggered a cam, I'm guessing the engine still had bits of swarf in it .....
Pure guess work, I dont actually know :(
Gutted for Damo :cry:
All is not lost peeps.:)
We have the car with us now (collected it on Sat) and took engine out yesterday. :)
All is in hand and we are confident we can find the prob/s and easily sort. We think we know where some of the noise was coming from (2 very loose bolts going down to the 'zorst causing major blowing :nod:)- will leave the specifics to Dan, who I beleive will post up later (when he has a mo. inbetween working).
Full strip down/rebuild in the pipeline. So watch this space for news :thumbs:
Damo - like I said earlier, all is not lost:no: AT ALL ;)
Gary@APT
07-07-2008, 16:19
loose bolts on exhaust you got to be kidding!!!may be the bolts inside engine:cry:
loose bolts on exhaust you got to be kidding!!!may be the bolts inside engine:cry:
Had a chat with dan tonight he found that the crank pully was not on properly and it was hitting the oil housing taken a nice bit out of it, also buggered the woodruff key... this was the main problem with the loud knocking we had. (all i can say is sorry dan, i fitted that bit when my dad rebuilt the bottom end :( )
Will wait to here what the rest of the strip down brings as sm said i did bugger a cam.... yet again my own falt :( but then this is why the car is now with dan far far away from me :wack:
dan is also going to fit a new pump for us to as the one in there now we think is ill
had a chat with dan sr is staying and he will hopefully be posting pictures
nice one damo, i hope it all goes to plan for you fella
Will not fit the ca with out cutting the manifold up or sorting a t3 top mount one plus new oil lines made as i dont think the ones from my sr will fit
All tho if you just want to buy the turbo only make me an offer i put the full kit up in the member section at min
500-700hp turbo kit
to fit sr
holset hx40 turbo
top mount turbo manifold
extranal waste gate
oil feed and return lines
down pipe
£800
Wahoo good news , can not wait till you get this up and running i want a passenger ride :-)
yeah no prob once its sorted mate
thanks bud,
any one want to buy a hx40 turbo kit? think i may end up selling mine and down sizing to a gt3071r
thanks
damo
Thats good to hear (that you're probably selling the tubby I mean :nod: ;) - your engine spec should be more compatible with the GT371R & the car will appreciate it :))
Tis a beauty is that HX40 tubby & bloody mahoosive too :thumbs: = lovely :smitten:
tell dan to buy it for the rb30 will be mint on that thing :)
tell dan to buy it for the rb30 will be mint on that thing :)
LOL - you're just trying to reduce yer final bill down 'int ya?! ;):whip::D He he!
(only joking fella)
Dan@DB-Power
11-07-2008, 15:48
Better late than never :wack:
Anyhow picked up Damo's car Saturday morning and towed it back to Hemel.
Started work on it Sunday and with help from Spirit took the engine out:-
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=55733&stc=1&d=1215790975
All out
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=55735&stc=1&d=1215790975
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=55736&stc=1&d=1215790975
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=55734&stc=1&d=1215790975
Then over the course of this week started stripping the engine.
One of the 1st things I found while undoing the clutch was that the front pulley bolt was loose, which has eaten half of the woodruff key, and has also scored the oil pump :( not a biggy as we have a few spares :)
I then proceeded to take the head off an inspect, the head seems ok but some of the cam caps are scored so will be changing the head regardless I think :nod
Dan@DB-Power
11-07-2008, 15:49
This left the bottom end.
I started with the Mains, all the mains were scored but what was very noticable was number 3 main bearings were worn and squished
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=55737&d=1215790974
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=55738&stc=1&d=1215791385
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=55739&stc=1&d=1215791385
I then tried to find out what had caused this problem, Swarf was a possibility but then why weren't all the mains like this. I put the crank into the lathe at work and used a dial guage to work out if the crank was true or not.
Results are as follows (from front pulley to flywheel):-
no1:- 8 thou out on the mains journal
no2:- 6 thou out on the mains journal
no3:- 6 thou out on the mains journal
no4:- 6 thou out on the mains journal
no5:- 8 thou out on the mains journal
So pretty much a bent crank :(
This then made me think what bent the crank, the one thing I did notice whilst removing the crank is that number 3 conrod cap was hard to get off the journal, and thats when I noticed this:-
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=55740&stc=1&d=1215792137
If you have a look where the red highlighted piece is, you will see that there is a dent in the crank which goes overhead of the journal. This could explain the bent crank and why number 3 is completely shagged :(
Dan :thumbs:
I've allready seen that happen. any idea why it happens that to the shells ?
Not a clue......
Well not much has happend really apart from parts are now building up at DBpower office :Plug: of which im hoping dan will post afew pictures at some point but i know he is busy :wave: So hopefully we may have a car to run at round 6 of TA but im not to sure just yet alot of work to do.....
so we now have,
Skyline R32 GTR vspec, non v spec diff's, drive shafts and hubs so i got some rota gtr 18" x 9.5 et30 in white, 5 stud to go with them. also some toyo t1r 265/35/18
Alloy 54L twin baffeld sumped fuel tank, 14meters of hose
044 pump
gt3071r-wg turbo
DBpower manifold and lots more im sure but just cant think of them at min :eek::wack:
So what do you do the day before your bday? Me, well im stuck working away from home so im making s13 to sr20det converion looms in my hotel room. Stripping out the abs, window wiper and crap that you dont need in the s14 loom....
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/DSC00001.jpg
half a bag full so far has come out :smash:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/DSC00002.jpg
Dan@DB-Power
19-08-2008, 13:30
A few pics as promised :)
Damo's new petrol tank, looks very nice and has a swirl pot integrated within he base :cool:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/P140808_1908.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/P140808_190801.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/P140808_190802.jpg
And look what got picked up on Friday, courtesy of Dan at SRB Power :thumbs:
Type GT kit :) one for Damo's car and one for mine, they will look the dogs when fitted and sprayed :nod:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/P150808_195801.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/P150808_1958.jpg
On an added note, everyone should have a Omega Estate for a daily drive:-
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/P150808_1945.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/P150808_1946.jpg
In the back of it there is the following:-
2 x front bumpers
2 x rear bumpers
2 x pairs of sideskirts
2 sets of front canards
2 sets of rear canard
and 2 rear diffusers
& a carbon grill for Spirit's car :D
More to come :)
Fake Ben Taylor
19-08-2008, 13:39
looking good guys :)
Thanks for the pictures dan :thumbs:
Yeah things are starting to move forward now :D may just make the last round yet...
Well after a long hard think and battle this year.............................................. ...........
I have decided to give the mission keep up with sm and yak a big fat FAIL. Nothing new there!!! It means i'm not going to run in the last TA round and have just about sorted a deal with some one elss for my place in the last round thanks to rob from TA passing his info on to me.
This does mean how ever I can sell some shit on and get some bits needed for the plans for next year. So I have sold pending payment my injectors and clutch
Thanks to mister Daniel san @ SRB doing some cheap deals and with the new idea to make this thing lighter than a lightened s13 (if thats ever possible) I have order a few more bits to this project of never ending pocket depth :wack:
Max Street Lite carbon clutch and flywheel kit
FPR doors and vented bonnet
Weight target is 1150kg or less as kev's came in at 1182kg with allot of stuff pulled from it so I’m hoping by doing the same and pull a little more I can got to this
My main problem has been reliability as 99% of people know from this project thread. This has been down to bad luck, me being stupid and me being stupid some more. For this reason I have decided to once the s13 is back together to go back to the stock ecu etc setup for a little bit to try get some of the reliability I so desperately need so I will end up with a setup like the hd stage 3a
Every one please cross you fingers and wish me some luck for the time ahead as i’m starting to run out of time and money for the s13 now with me and Linda getting married next year.
I would also like to thank
MY gorgeous missis Linda for putting up with all my car crap
Tim_s13 for all his help building paint and welding done of the shell.
Dan and Spirit @ DBpower for all there help and support / sponsorship. If it was not for them I could see myself stripping the s13 for parts to help fund the wedding but its now has a very small budget for next year instead :eek:
:Plug:
So lets hope i find the much needed reliability over the winter but if not i guess it will look good any how :wack:
Damn shame matey :(
Good luck for next year :nod:
scottdawg
02-09-2008, 21:56
Fingers crossed for you mate.
Sorry i miss phatbob out of the thanks along wiht ever one on sxoc. With out bobs help on the vems side i prob would have never got the engine running and not run in the round i did do. Thanks mate your a star putting up with my calls and e-mail.
Daniel san
03-09-2008, 11:01
Hey you are welcome mate :thumbs:
Good luck putting it all together :)
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/P150808_1945.jpg
lol :wack: these gt kits must like being fitted to omega estates. we picked my kit up from SRB in the very same car, garrys omega estate. same colour too.
how long till your kits fitted? we need to get these 3 cars together for a little photo shoot some time when they are all kitted up. :thumbs:
im hoping to have mine back on the road finished before xmass :D i cant wait :) not sure about dan's :(
i have not finished the new wiring for mine, so not started on dans yet. its not easy / takes to much time to re-wire the hole engine bay but will look so much better and have more room with the 2 relay boxes moved inside the car.
would just like to say a big thanks to dan and amy for bring my car back to me so i can sort the wiring and other small jobs before it goes back down for engine fitting and paint work
Will get some pictures up tomorrw but i now have no seats, dash and no wiring in the engine bay yey....
started ripping it aparts, look at the wiring mess! no wunder i have problems allways rushing things....
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00017.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00018.jpg
started re-doing the wiring looks better allready nice neat and treed off
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00021.jpg
started making block off pannels and new mounting points for boost controller and switchs
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00019.jpg
scottdawg
16-09-2008, 20:35
Looks like mine mate:D
I think you'll be fine in 2009. Been a bit of a rush this year.
yeah i hope so!!! i think we should be looking at around 2months ish before its running again taking my time but im having between 5-8hours a day on it a min (no work so on stand by). the wiring mite be finished tomorrow :eek:
scottdawg
16-09-2008, 21:06
mmmmmmm wiring. Just ripped all mine out. Think I'm sending it to Buffy to sort it out
LOL I did think about getting some one elss to do it but if i let anyone elss do it when i kind of do it for my job it would be a bit bad really, its the only thing i know i can do right :wack:
Evilchap
16-09-2008, 21:41
Looking good :thumbs:
When you're done, fancy coming to re-wire my boat? It really needs it :wack:
Nothing really exsiting to post today just more wiring stuff
converion loom just about sorted
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00022-1.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00023.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00025.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/my%20200sx/DSC00026.jpg
Fake Ben Taylor
19-09-2008, 04:27
damo me old fruit :D:D:D
glad youve decided on 2009 :nod: im still umming and arring.....can do again now due to what happened but not sure....heart isnt in the car anymore :(
you fancy giving me a hand with my wiring sometime?:) it scares me to death but the dash came out and i cant get it back in due to the wiring mess:(
yeah i can sort it mate no problem
All parts now for sale depending on meeting with bank on the 15th
for sale thread will be up soon
thanks
damo
Evilchap
06-11-2008, 08:24
As in whole car, giving up the racing?
yes the hole car bar the brakes i need them for the new one, infact i think i need bigger ;)
well i have just paid for the new s14 shell from phatbob
Car has been SORN for 3years
69K on the clock
Goodies:
fpr doors (to fit)
Cusco brace.
Apex tie-rods
Front Apex Coilovers (set to -2.5deg, 0.5toe in)
Tracking and toe all set to spec mid-sept.
Whiteline ARB.
Apex big brake kit, steel braided hoses.
GRP seat (Ian Harwood Racing Sparco copy)
6-point bolt-in Fabricage (the original hand-made one!) professionally
fitted by Fabricage.
Rear 3-peice toe and camber arms (set to -0.5deg camber 0toe)
Aluminium subframe locking kit
Rear Whiteline ARB.
Steel braded hoses.
Janspeed exhaust
Cat pipe.
Walbro pump
ABS removed
Two sets of standard wheels, one shod with Maxsport road legal slicks.
its off to h-dev for a full on build costing alot of £££££ but will hopefully be 500hp at the end
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/S14/PassengerSideRear.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/S14/PassengerRearArch.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/S14/PassengerCabin.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/S14/InteriorRear.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/S14/DriversSide.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/S14/DriversInterior.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/S14/BootInterior.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/S14/Boot.jpg
s14_dave
16-11-2008, 18:00
should of bought blings car mate
err no! not got that much cash laying around im paying for this over the next 3-4months
I wander if that's the same shell that I almost crashed into many years ago at Trax when I did a sympathy spin with phatbob through copse?
Exactly the same car - and coincidentally thats the last time that car ran on the turbo engine, since then its been under a tarpaulin and on a few trailers...
Don't forget to let me know when its ready for a ride on my trailer :)
Looks like a good place to be starting to build a race car from- also more interesting for me as there are not that many time attack s14s in last season- will be interested to see how you tackle this one!
Best of luck!
Tom
thanks bud, yeah im going to try keep it simple no body kits etc well thats the plan....
Good engine/turbo/fueling and ecu setup hopefully around 500hp (h-dev doing all this work)
Big brakes - DB-power setup TBC
GTST gearbox setup from DB-Power (testing this)
Front spliter
Rear wing
Good coilovers hopefully (depends on budget)
and then go from there with the aim to get it all running setup this year with loads of seat time and then try it out in timeattack 2010 i dont expect the car back from jez untill the end of feb
:cry::cry::cry:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/damodevilsson/DSC00052.jpg
:wave::wave::wave:
:cry::cry::cry:
off it goes to its new home on a great big lorry
how come you changed your mind with the s13?
WOHOOOOO on it way to meeeeee:D will be here soon
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