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Jezz_S13

10-04-2005, 16:07

It's about time I went public with my project so here you are, this thread has been simmering in the mod pod for the last 2 and a bit years, I've stripped all of the other waffle from the thread to leave my posts with piccies in them.

Not many words, but the pictures are worth 1000's of them.

In order to see the linked pictures you need to looking at the thread from www.sxoc.com, a link to the thread in .com land is here...
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=292976

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17096

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17097

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http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17104

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17105

Jezz_S13

10-04-2005, 16:09

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=46103

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=46104

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=46105

Jezz_S13

30-04-2005, 20:31

Rear strut brace and harness bar, and some of the 3mm plate feet to bolt the cage to.

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17769

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17770

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17765

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17766

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17768

Jezz_S13

07-07-2005, 08:44

I bought a fecking huge oil cooler a while back, some may remember, it's a 40 row beast and making it fit is a bit of a problem in any conventional way.

Obviously it needs sorting out a lot, but I'm pretty pleased that I've actually got the thing to fit at all. :wack:

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/oil-cooler.JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/oil-cooler%20(1).JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/oil-cooler%20(2).JPG

Jezz_S13

19-07-2005, 18:44

Not very exciting, but latest cool thing to the ever growing pile of pile of crap waiting to be fitted.

Reworked fuel rail...

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/fuelrail%20(2).JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/fuelrail%20(1).JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/fuelrail.JPG

Jezz_S13

21-11-2005, 16:36

After (another) 2 weeks solid of ****ing about some paint has finally gone on...

Many thanks to Buffy. :thumbs:

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/paint-prime-5-sml.JPG

Jezz_S13

21-11-2005, 18:04

Before I (Buffy) could do any painting I had to put the rivnuts in for the cable and hoses...

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=24800

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=24801

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=24802

Jezz_S13

24-04-2006, 21:47

Finally got the engine bay painted (thanks again to buffy :notworthy ) so started to put the bitch back together.

A few random snaps of putting the wiring in, nasty stuff behind the dash, boot release etc...

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31316

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31317

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31318

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31319

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31320

Jezz_S13

25-04-2006, 08:11

Some more piccytures...

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31326

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31327

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31328

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31329

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31330

Jezz_S13

25-04-2006, 08:15

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31331

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31332

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31333

Jezz_S13

02-05-2006, 11:57

All of the electrics inc alarm are in and tested apart from the engine loom and the alterations for the siliva front lights.
Ran the +ve cable from the battery to the front of the car where it goes into a distro box where the original +ve connectors connect up, ran the fuel lines and bolted a lot of other odds and sods on (wiper motor, washer bottle and pumps, pedals, steering column, etc).

The dash does go back in too which surpises me, thought it was going to be a proper twat to get it back in. I've taken it back out to run any other wiring such as AVCR, WI, gauges and wide band lambda.

Built the Kouki rear light loom with the help of Pete's write up.:)

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31786

Moved the ABS and alterered the loom to accomodate it's new position.

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31787

And a gratuitous pic of the finished oil cooler install, taking it out will be a wing off job, which means headlights and bumper too I think. :wack:

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31785

Jezz_S13

10-05-2006, 19:24

A few more pics...

Some silvia lights.

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=32414

Brake lines and Fuel

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=32415

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=32416

Battery install

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=32417

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=32418

Jezz_S13

21-05-2006, 21:04

Engine is in, sort of, and now trying to suss how to connect stuff up.

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=33063

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=33064

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=33065

Jezz_S13

22-12-2006, 17:37

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/started-just%20(1).JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/started-just%20(2).JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/started-just%20(3).JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/started-just%20(4).JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/started-just%20(5).JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/started-just%20(6).JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/started-just%20(7).JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/started-just%20(8).JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/started-just.JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/started-just%20(1).JPG

Jezz_S13

06-01-2007, 17:17

Today I've mostly been trial fitting my wastegate, installing the AVCR solenoid and making the signal hoses to connect them together. :)

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=41083

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=41084

Jezz_S13

02-04-2007, 10:10

There has been progress!! :eek:

Steering wheel and snap off kit...
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/wheel-mani.JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/wheel-mani (2).JPG

Engine mounts...
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/wheel-mani (1).JPG

Finished manifold/turbo/WG setup...
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/wheel-mani (5).JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/wheel-mani (3).JPG

Bit of barney botching, batteries went flat in camera so didn't get the finished article...
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/running-ish/wheel-mani (4).JPG

Maybe, just maybe it'll move from my garage this year - Even if it is only while we move house. :wack:

Jezz_S13

03-06-2007, 17:20

Loads more has happened since the post above, but most of it is tidying up of wiring, making things work properly - that kind of stuff, stuff that takes ages to do but looks like nothing have been achieved.

I'll take some new pics and get them posted soon.

Pete C

03-06-2007, 17:35

Awesome stuff Jezz :thumbs:

Reckon it'll get finished sometime this side of forever? :wack:

Jezz_S13

03-06-2007, 17:39

Yeah, should be done sometime this year LOL.

In reality it just needs the cosmetic bodywork sorting now to get it on the road, and I'm hoping to make some progress on that this week. :)

Dave_S

03-06-2007, 18:47

Ooh cool, that's looking good :)

Dave

Phill

03-06-2007, 19:02

Fair play mate you've made a HUGE amount of work seem like nothing when you squeeze it down into a few posts . . . still recon yours will be on the road before mine.

The_BULK

03-06-2007, 19:15

hmm that looks well nice, keep up the good work jezz:thumbs:

vega

04-06-2007, 14:11

Looking good Jezz :)

disco-tom

04-06-2007, 18:45

Looks cool, Jezz. :cool:

How many times did you change your mind between blow through and pull through Mafs? :wack:

Jezz_S13

04-06-2007, 18:58

LOL not once, but now you mention it perhaps I should, but th eIC is finished now.
As I said I need to take some newer more piccies.

Jez

04-06-2007, 18:59

Looking good :thumbs:

Jezz_S13

09-08-2007, 09:34

Alrighty then.

Car is now mechanically finished and is ready for paint; which should be happening this week/weekend. :)

i took a couple of pictures the other day, not very exciting but as it's the first I've taken in months I thought I'd post them up.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/prepaint/fromrear1.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/prepaint/fromrear2.jpg

Pete C

09-08-2007, 09:44

I recognise the reg number stamped into the tailgate glass :wack:

Did it come from Jacko, by any chance? :smash:

Can't wait to see this finished/in the flesh, Jezz. You going to take it along to a Welsh meet soon-ish? Might have to pop over the bridge :)

Jezz_S13

09-08-2007, 09:56

LOL yeah, was Jacko's and it's still rust free, but has been modded for the Kouki wing. :thumbs:

I will indeed take it to a Welsh meet when it's done yeah, unless it breaks. :wack:

doz

09-08-2007, 10:27

Looking really good dude - I'm tempted to seam weld mine, but im not sure if there is any advantage in doing so?

Jezz_S13

09-08-2007, 11:39

I'd be surprised if there isn't any advantage, but I dont have any annecdotal info regarding the S-chassis to verify it.

Sideways Danny

09-08-2007, 14:28

you could probably tell how much less flex there is with the old jack up one corner and open the door trick

Jezz_S13

09-08-2007, 14:30

It has a cage in it too so wouldn't really tell you anything; other than it's stiff (or not).

Sideways Danny

09-08-2007, 14:31

ah true, the cage will do a lot too

Pablo13

09-08-2007, 14:45

Just seen this, looking like another great project, its well thought out. Good work, keep it up.

Jezz_S13

10-08-2007, 16:28

The car's just been dropped off with Yetiboy for painting.

Seems strange not having a car on bricks in the garage. :wack:

Phill

11-08-2007, 17:34

Was also strainge driving down the M4 with an S13 on the back, covered which can only be described as a parachute travelling along at 50mph.

I'm glad we stopped to peel it off as at least one of the pigs we past would have pulled us over!! lol.

Jezz_S13

12-08-2007, 11:45

Indeed! It was a bit crazy, should have video'd it. :D

Anyway, now project Sil80 is finished and out of the way for a while I've moved on to do Project Garage...

M.D.

13-08-2007, 11:47

i can jack my totally standard shell up on the corners and it will lift 3 wheels and the doors will still open fine, i think they are a good chassis as standard as long as its clean,

orject is coming allong nicely jezz, did you have that manifold made or is it a off the chelf one, im deffo going to be making myself one now i have a spare manifold to play with

Sideways Danny

13-08-2007, 11:50

i can jack my totally standard shell up on the corners and it will lift 3 wheels and the doors will still open fine, i think they are a good chassis as standard as long as its clean,

you can always open them, it's shutting them again thats the problem :wack: the standard shell is very bendy even good ones

Jezz_S13

13-08-2007, 11:52

It's an XS Power manifold. :indiff:
A brace is being made at the minute.

SilviaS13

13-08-2007, 12:07

What engine mounts are they? Where from?

Jezz_S13

13-08-2007, 12:12

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissan-240SX-Engine-Mounts-S13-S14-Silvia-SR20DET-KA24_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42609QQihZ015QQite mZ250152047600

They make everything rattle & shake a lot and the ally spacer didn't come with them, but they may not be necessary. I added the spacer because they dropped the engine too low compared to std mounts and I'd already had my exhaust d'pipe made.

SilviaS13

13-08-2007, 12:14

On CA18DE (no turbo) i have already got through 2 standard mounts. I hate to think what it will be like with SR20DET in there. I shall be getting some of those i think.
Is there a UK supplier- think i might of seen one before.

Jezz_S13

13-08-2007, 12:15

don't think there's a UK supplier, it looks like they make them thereselves.

I paid £44 all in to my door.

SilviaS13

13-08-2007, 12:16

very good price. I will get some ordered up. Cheers

Jezz_S13

21-08-2007, 10:41

Yetiboy has just sent me a picture. :)

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/preped.jpg

Pete C

21-08-2007, 13:03

Oooo, must be time for spraying soon? :)

Jezz_S13

21-08-2007, 13:07

Tomorrow, I'm told. :)

Pete C

21-08-2007, 13:15

Double ooo :)

Going to be black, I take it?

Jezz_S13

21-08-2007, 13:18

Naturally. ;)

Pete C

21-08-2007, 13:21

Naturally. ;)

I expected nothing less :D

Jezz_S13

29-08-2007, 17:27

I have some more pictures, looks more like a car, less like a skip now. :)

Respect to Jonny!

Some from before...

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/pre-paint-sml-1.JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/pre-paint-sml-2.JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/pre-paint-sml-3.JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/pre-paint-sml-4.JPG

Some now... (please ignore the remainder of the Parachute (http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showpost.php?p=3457425&postcount=37) attached to the rear wheel, infact ignore the wheels altogether, they're it's work boots. :) )

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/justsprayed-cropped-sml-1.JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/justsprayed-cropped-sml-2.JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/project/justsprayed-cropped-sml-3.JPG

Jez

29-08-2007, 17:37

:thumbs: looks great :)

Pablo13

29-08-2007, 18:34

Nice job!

RTLKyuubi

29-08-2007, 21:06

That looks very nice in black! What thickness pipe did you use to make the rear strut bar thing :wack:

Pete C

30-08-2007, 07:43

Excellent, good progress, can't wait to see the finished result :thumbs:

30-08-2007, 08:07

Looking good Jezz :thumbs: ,I'm really looking forward to seeing photo's of it when its all back together :nod:

Jezz_S13

30-08-2007, 08:16

Cheers guys; as for looking forward to seeing it, me too! :D

The rear brace thing is made of the same material as the main hoop of the rollcage, IIRC it's 1.5" Dia with 2.5mm wall thickness.

Richy_Boy

30-08-2007, 08:17

Lovely to see the full life story of these projects... it makes me want to strip mine to bits and rebuild it for the hell of it :nod: :D

Well done lads :thumbs:

Rich

200sxslide

31-08-2007, 11:07

nice project mate:thumbs:

The_BULK

31-08-2007, 19:50

Looking good now Jezz :thumbs: is this the last bit of the project or is it far from finished?

Jezz_S13

31-08-2007, 21:05

This is pretty much the last bit, should be sorted within a week of getting it back; not sure when that's going to be though.

Parker

31-08-2007, 21:07

Didn't Pete C have one of those? :confused:

Looks stunning Jezz :smitten:

Jezz_S13

31-08-2007, 21:27

He did indeed. :)

Pete C

31-08-2007, 22:05

Didn't Pete C have one of those? :confused:

Yeah but you just know Jezz's is going to be miles better :D

Bringing it to the next Welsh meet in Bristol Jezz? :)

Jezz_S13

31-08-2007, 22:15

Yes, if it's done.
When's the meet, has it been decided yet?

Petrol

31-08-2007, 22:16

Nice job :nod: :thumbs:

Pete C

31-08-2007, 22:29

Yes, if it's done.
When's the meet, has it been decided yet?

Sunday Sept 30th @ 12pm

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=307609

Better get twirling those spanners :)

Deacon

31-08-2007, 23:45

What black is that? it looks lovley!

Jezz_S13

01-09-2007, 06:02

Nice job :nod: :thumbs:

Cheers, though it's put to shame by yours.

DS, I asked for Kuro black but don't know for sure whether it is, I'll ask Yetiboy.

Pete, I will when it comes back, there's not that much left to do.

Pete C

01-09-2007, 08:26

DS, I asked for Kuro black but don't know for sure whether it is, I'll ask Yetiboy.

According to the chap who painted my SilEighty, Kuro Black is just flat black with a tiny bit of yellow in it :wack:

VIDAL BABBOON

19-09-2007, 18:24

Jezz any news on the car yet?

Thought you would have had it back by now?

Jezz_S13

24-09-2007, 20:10

Jezz any news on the car yet?

Thought you would have had it back by now?

I have it back, it's coming on.

VIDAL BABBOON

27-09-2007, 17:59

Fantastic :)

Will have to pop down for a nose on the weekend then.

Jezz_S13

27-09-2007, 20:22

Aye. :)

It's almost there, just sorting the turbo bracket out; there's not much else left to do to get it on the road now.

VIDAL BABBOON

27-09-2007, 20:36

Fantastic news mate :)

Now all you have to do is learn how to drive again lol

Need to come over to have a look :nod: im up in llandow on Sat but will give you a bell on Sunday :)

Jezz_S13

28-09-2007, 07:21

Yeah no probs, will probably pop over to llandow tomorrow for a nose; need to pop into peterlloyds on the way for some cage foam.

Pete C

28-09-2007, 08:02

Doesn't sound like it's going to make it over the bridge on Sunday then? :(

Jezz_S13

28-09-2007, 08:10

Doesn't sound like it's going to make it over the bridge on Sunday then? :(

No. :(
Everything takes too long, and I've had too many distratctions since I've had it back to be able to devote enough time to it.

Pete C

28-09-2007, 08:42

Everything takes too long

That is probably the most universal truth when doing stuff to cars :smash:

dazz150

23-12-2007, 15:37

is there anymore updates to this? Looking for a s13 myself with the intention of doing the silvia conversion - would love to see the finished article :)

Phill

24-12-2007, 08:31

I think he's still in Hamster-ram at the moment - car is looking good though - i'm sure he'll update it shortly!!

Madda

24-12-2007, 08:47

I think he's still in Hamster-ram at the moment - car is looking good though - i'm sure he'll update it shortly!!

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:c3yaTopneQUbUM:http://customersrock.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/binoculars.jpg

He's online though :p

Jezz_S13

24-12-2007, 08:49

I am online yeah, I've just (last night) got back.

It's in bits again at the minute, and I've not taken any pics for ages.
I'll take and post some pictures when the paint is finished.

VIDAL BABBOON

24-12-2007, 09:27

I am online yeah, I've just (last night) got back.

It's in bits again at the minute, and I've not taken any pics for ages.
I'll take and post some pictures when the paint is finished.

Just leave Tony alone lol

Did you manage to sort the RLTC out in the end ?

Jezz_S13

24-12-2007, 09:36

Not those kinds of bits. :D
Had an annoying squeak at the front, it seems to be the ARB bushes creaking. But have taken a loads of other bits off and managed to break something so waiting for the post man so I can fix it.
Also had a petrol issue, but that's pretty much been resolved now.

Sort of, had tapped into the wrong wire of the pair on 2 of the sensors.
I am getting loads of noise on another channel though, so need to look at it again.

VIDAL BABBOON

24-12-2007, 09:38

Ahh ok so minor issues that have been escalated to major ones due to the time of year lol

Im still waiting for new valve guides :( it's the only thing holding me up now :(

Sturge

22-12-2008, 17:22

any more updates? dont suppose you have your dyno graph handy?

Jezz_S13

23-12-2008, 16:34

Gah, most of the piccies are not working for mere mortals.

There's a RR graph in the power sticky thread at the top of the s13 tech section.
http://sxoc.com/vbb/showpost.php?p=4252868&postcount=135

New turbo (GT35R) should make that look a lot healthier WRT to both power and spool up, have both 0.63 and 0.82 housings to play with.

I've just changed the engine mounts and am running SR PFC (Djetro) now also splitfire coils from SR.
The SSAutoshite manifold fell to bits, so now have an Horsepower in box one.
Have ordered a better fuel pump, an 044, which I'm going to mount in tank.

Was running 2.4bar a few weeks ago, but my WG packed up the day before I was going to RR it again, so it's back to running ~2bar at the minute (what it was at the RR the graph is from).

Kev

24-12-2008, 22:34

nice bit of power there Jezz:thumbs:

Wondering......ur afr's are a bit upsy downy:wack:
Should they not be fairly flat once ur on full boost?

In my theory they should be, but im no mapper mate:)

Jezz_S13

27-12-2008, 08:07

They only move between 11 and 10.5 according to that graph and it sort of correlates to the boost spike (richer) and subsequent trough (leaner) that is evident if you look at the boost curve.

My Lambda reads 1 AFR point higher than that one, so between 12 and 11.5.
But yes you are right it possibly could be flatter, I mapped it the night before so was a bit of a rush. That map is long gone though, things have changed since then, and are about to change again when I fit the new pump and raise the pressure next week.

Sturge

28-12-2008, 09:50

what other mods did you have to do to wiring/sensors to run the power fc from an sr then?

Jezz_S13

28-12-2008, 10:02

Nothing really for sensors (other than the djetro stuff and a bit of meddling for the SR coils and PTU), made an adaptor to convert from the CA ecu plug to the SR one.

Here's a thread all about it...
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=301002&highlight=pfc

Kev

28-12-2008, 14:33

28-12-2008, 14:40

Nice power considering there is another 1/2 bar to come :)

Jezz_S13

28-12-2008, 15:42

wasnt criticising mate, just trying to learn:)

and tbh i thought u would have had it mapped by Jez

No, mapped it myself. More fun, innit. :D
Basically Kev I've been trying to map to as close to 12.5:1 as possible with the EGTs being reasonable, and safe knock of course - because of this the AFR may well bounce about a bit through the revs.

SM, yeah I was trying to get to 500 just for the RR day, but not sure it would have done as the compressor is getting inefficient according to the map at around 1.8bar; hence the need for the GT35R. Should see 450 at ~1.4bar with that, but it will still be reasonably happy at 2.4bar so plenty of scope to get to the high 500s or 600.

Kev

29-12-2008, 11:09

12.5:1 mate, u know i couldnt pin down in all my reading an "ideal" afr.
Wish id asked u, cos i went cautious with 10.5:1 at the higher revs.

Least now should be able to free up more gee gee's:thumbs:

Jezz_S13

29-12-2008, 13:39

~12.5 gives best torque (LBT Lean Best torque), but you'll struggle to maintain it at higher boost as EGTs will be rising.

Have a read of Cliff's post here...

http://195.159.109.134/vemsuk/forum/index.php/topic,97.0.html

And this...
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/cliffb75/VEMS/lamdaefficiencycurve.jpg

Jez

29-12-2008, 14:05

Fuelling doesn't really make a huge difference to power - that graph shows it well. You only lose ~2% by going from 0.86 to 0.75 (12.6:1 to 11:1)

Jezz_S13

29-12-2008, 14:19

True. :)

Jezz_S13

26-10-2014, 17:17

I might update this thread soon.

Jez

26-10-2014, 19:54

Long time, no see. How you getting on?

Jezz_S13

26-10-2014, 20:33

Aye has been a while.

Getting on with the car, making pretty good progress at the minute; in life generally Ok too.
I'll try to get some piccies uploaded tomorrow.

Jezz_S13

27-10-2014, 13:17

Recently had the engine bay painted, now putting stuff back into it.

83978

83979

Jezz_S13

28-10-2014, 17:50

Pics of some of the engine shiny bits.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1044.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1048.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1046.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1047.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1049.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1058.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1050.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1051.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1052.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1053.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1055.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1054.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1056.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1057.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1062.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1063.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1065.JPG
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/bits/CIMG1066.JPG

Jezz_S13

28-10-2014, 17:56

Pics of bellhousing to allow Toyota R154 to mate to the 4G63, and the gearbox mount.
Produced by a cool dude in the US, Bill Hincher whose help has been invaluable. He's done some great things to allow random gearboxes mount to various blocks, and a lot of work making the 4G63 work in a RWD config generally.

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154EVO7.JPG
http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154EVO8.JPG
http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154EVO9.JPG
http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154EVO10.JPG
http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154EVO11.JPG
http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154EVO12.JPG
http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154EVO13.JPG
http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154EVO5.JPG
http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154EVO14.JPG
http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154EVO15.JPG
http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154EVO16.JPG
http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154EVO17.JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/gearbox-mount/gearbox-mount-3-sml.JPG

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/gearbox-mount/gearbox-mount-finish-1.jpg

Jezz_S13

28-10-2014, 18:00

The project has been rumbling on for a few years on and off, hopefully it'll get finished* with one last push.

*finished meaning on the road in this sense, a project is never finished...

Jezz_S13

28-10-2014, 18:13

Dash...
http://yaffle.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/dash/dash4.jpg

Prop...
http://yaffle.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/prop%20shaft/mounted-prop1.jpg
http://yaffle.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/prop%20shaft/prop.jpg

Engine mounts...
http://yaffle.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/engine-mounts/engine-mounts1.JPG
http://yaffle.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/engine-mounts/engine-mounts2.JPG
http://yaffle.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/engine-mounts/engine-mounts3.JPG
http://yaffle.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/engine-mounts/engine-mounts4.JPG

Jezz_S13

05-11-2014, 07:34

Ok, going to try to keep this updated and in some sort of logical order now.

First up a sort of timelapse of stuff going back in to this point.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/bay-001.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/bay-002.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/bay-003.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/bay-004.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/bay-01.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/bay-02.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/bay-03.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/bay-04.jpg

The intercooler piping on the cold side has been a bit of a concern as there's so little room. The pipe does have a tight bend in it (135deg), but the good news is that it's only 10" from the outlet of the intercooler to throttle body.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/bay-05.jpg

Jezz_S13

05-11-2014, 07:46

Fitted some GTR rear brakes.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/reargtrbrakes.jpg

The next biggish step was to get the box in so final positioning of everything could be established before any intercooler, coolant and exhaust pipework is made.
Stainless Steve has been instrumental in getting a lot of this done, and we spent another long day at Stef's place this week ad achieved a fair amount.

I love this shot, has something about it that make it look cool.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/tunnel-01.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/gearbox-01.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/gearbox-02.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/gearbox-03.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/gearbox-04.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/prop-01.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/prop-02.jpg

Actual_Ben_Taylor

05-11-2014, 07:51

None of this ever happened, you just swiped those pics off the internet... :p

Jezz_S13

05-11-2014, 08:05

We made a brake line, not very exciting but was a bit awkward to get the bend radius tight enough to miss the plenum but without flattening or kinking the pipe.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/brakelines-01.jpg

The sump is a project in it's own right, here's where it's at now.
It ay not look exciting, but it's a lot of work. Steve hates it, but he's going a sterling job.
I didn't want the bottom of the bowl below the crossmember, so it's been shallowed a bit and a wing added to compensate.
It's also been modified so the back of the bowl clears the crossmember.
The plan is to baffle it in a way such that surge is avoided, first step is to make a top plate, this will be set at a height to just clear the crank & bigends.
I promise it'll look more interesting that this soon.
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/sump-01.jpg

Finally a full frontal, albeit on the piss a bit due to having one odd wheel with a flat tyre on it.
The intercooler is going behind the slam panel etc because the Silvia front end is so shallow it won't fit without major butchery; putting it behind the slam panel allows us to make some half decent ducting; and I think the flow will be better through the IC where it is.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/fullfrontal-01.jpg

Jezz_S13

05-11-2014, 08:09

None of this ever happened, you just swiped those pics off the internet... :p

Actually that's reasonably true, I keep forgetting to take pictures so don't have many; fortunately Steve takes loads and I'm robbing them from his facebook page. :D

Jonny Wilkinson

05-11-2014, 08:52

Quality car porn. That is all :notworthy

p.s. That is the "right" place to put the intercooler IMO. Short pipework and still with ready access to a fresh cold airstream. :nod:

Jezz_S13

05-11-2014, 18:11

Thanks Jonny, I'd class it as dirty amateur car porn. :D

Here's a dirty home video, of the geeky sort, from when I was originally trying to get the DBW working; I've since done a better job of the calibration and am now using a Syvecs I/O expander with a full bridge driver to control the throttle body motor, rather than a half bridge driver module shown in the video.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Cn71Fdx7a2g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Jez

12-11-2014, 11:10

Top build - looks like a huge amount of work!

Jonny Wilkinson

12-11-2014, 11:28

I keep coming back to this thread just to look at the paintwork in the bay. One day soon I hope my bay will look that good :( Very jealous.

Jezz_S13

12-11-2014, 14:34

Cheers Jez. :)

Jonny, it's easy, you take all the gubbins out, wheel it to a body shop and leave it there for a while.
While they paint it you clean aforementioned gubbins.
Wheel it back after paint and screw it all back together. :)

Having another day on it on Friday to get some odds and sods done, will try to remember to take some piccies as I go.

Jezz_S13

14-11-2014, 19:59

Spent a few hours on the car today, had a few little but reasonably time consuming jobs to do, I mainly didn't take any pics.
Fitted some rear brake hoses, took the covers off my bucket seats to give them a wash, fiddled with the loom a bit then spent about 2 hours just looking as stuff working out how it might work.
The gear lever is ok, but a little high and a bit forward; I reckon can get stock positioning and work with all the stock gaiters etc with a bit of cutting and shutting.
Have been trying to work out where and how to mount the ECU and I/O expander.
I'm fitting a Toyota MRS Roadster electric PAS unit, so was looking how I could mount that in the N/S wing.
Took a few bits off so I can clean them up and paint them.

The pics I did take were of the throttle body which has been modified to make the hose seat diameter 90mm, it was 86mm before and that's not a std silicon hose size. So the TB casting was machined round, then a sleeve with a bead/swage made and sweated on. Even if there was an 86mm hose, the original bead on he casting only went about 250 degrees around the circumference, which would never hold 2.5 bar boost.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/throttle-body-01.jpg

I fitted the clutch line, took pics of that because it looks nice.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/clutchhose-01.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/clutchhose-02.jpg

Then my brakes arrived a few weeks earlier than expected, 356mm. I might go and try them on in the morning.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/brakes.jpg

Kev

15-11-2014, 11:07

I take my hat off to you for the sheer amount of work, the real ground up build mate.

I think it's one of those things that everyone thinks they want to do, but major thumbs up for actually having the balls to do it.

I don't think I ever could just from the point of view of if I crashed it I might have to kill someone /myself lol.

That bell housing is cracking, be a shame to get it dirty lol.

I can see when it's finished it's gonna be one of those cars you see at a show where you can't go and look at one bit, cos there are soooo many cool bits, and some much lovely work, you have to see it all.

Glad your getting the drive back to attack it again mate.

Good luck with it.

Jezz_S13

15-11-2014, 12:52

Thanks Kev, some kind words there. :) This is kind of 2 projects, the original sil80 project was essentially finished, then I blew the engine up and it's the 4G swap that's been rumbling for 5 years. I'd have edited the title of the thread, but I'm a pleb now.
Trust me there's been times when it looked like it wouldn't get done, not that I've thought of getting rid of it, more that I couldn't see when i was going to get back on it, going pretty good now though and the end is (in relative terms) in sight now.

Anyway I was able to get down to the workshop and try the brakes on, my wheels are 17s, the brakes are 356; however in the end there was bags of clearance, about 6mm.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/brakes-on-01.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/brakes-on-02.jpg

I also took loads of pictures of the gear lever setup so that I can crack on with butchering it, so here's one of the old CA gearbox lever in the Toyota box, just need to make the Toyota lever (which is about a foot long LOL) look a bit like this, only about an inch further toward the back. I might cut/shut the two together.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/gearlever-01.jpg

Jezz_S13

29-11-2014, 13:52

Time for a bit of an update.
plenty been going on, far more than there are pic's for.

The gear lever is finished, here's a pic of the hacked lever before it was finished and painted. I put it all together with the console and gaiter and the position and look is pretty much stock, which is nice.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/gearlever-02.jpg

I'm using the Toyota MR-S electric PAS pump, we've found somewhere for it and Steve has made one of the two brackets.
It works really well here; the hoses will join to the original hardpipes which will be cut & shut to take a -6AN fitting for the high pressure side, and swaged/flared on the low pressure side.
There was a danger that we'd have to mount inside the car, but TBH I didn't really want that.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/paspump-01.jpg

Ignore the big bolt sticking out, that's just temporary until a replacement of the right size arrives.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/paspump-02.jpg

Had a bit of plenum interference with the clutch M/C so a bit of hacking,welding, polishing ensued courtesy of Steve & Steve.

Hack...
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/plenumhack-01.jpg

Weld...
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/plenumhack-02.jpg

Polished...
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/plenumhack-03.jpg

Suspension has arrived, I've fitted the front.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/brakes-on-03.jpg

Mounted the brake T-piece splitter for the front brakes having ditched the ABS; and made the feed pipe today...

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/brakelines-02.jpg

We put the intake pipework all together, much glee that it goes together ok. Up until this point it looked like it would work but was was all a bit vague as the throttle body was held on with gaffer tape and I didn't have a joiner. The flange of the plenum has been drilled/tapped so the TB is now mounted properly.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/intake-finished-01.jpg

Oh I fitted a Hardrace gearbox mount too, the stock one was far too squishy. I don't have much clearance to the tunnel from the box, so not ideal to have a saggy mount.

I'm hoping to get the alternator and mounting bracket back soon (it's currently on my engine somewhere in middle England), I've a feeling that it might get in the way of the plenum; so that could be another unnecessary project. Once it's mounted the coolant pipes to the radiator can be made.

Jez

29-11-2014, 14:38

Looking good :)

Jezz_S13

29-11-2014, 14:59

Thanks Jez, and thanks again for sorting the suspension and brakes out.

Jez

29-11-2014, 16:25

No probs :)

Give us a shout when you're ready for mapping - come and use the dyno if you like

Jezz_S13

30-11-2014, 08:09

Cool cheers. :) Not sure when that's going to be yet, hopefully not too long (relative to how long it's taken so far LOL).
I have access to rollers so I'll be able to get it up an running; once it's ran in I'll swap the lairy cams in then pop down to visit the Syvecs guru to wring it's neck.:)

Jezz_S13

01-12-2014, 18:54

Spent a day on the car today.

Fitted the rear shocks, no pics.

Test fitted the alternator, there were fears that it'd hit the plenum/throttle body but there are no fears; the coolant pipes on the TB hit it just, but they will be going anyway.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/alternator-01.jpg

Finished the front brake lines.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/brakelines-03.jpg

Made a low pressure return for the power steering pump; got a bit creative and made a cooler element.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/pas-cooler-01.jpg

The engine bay side...
http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/pas-cooler-02.jpg

And a pic of the finished gear lever.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/gearlever-03.jpg

docwra

02-12-2014, 13:17

This is awesome Jezz, proper serious build. Any hopes for power and weight when its done? :)

Jezz_S13

02-12-2014, 14:09

Cheers. :)
Power should be around 6-650 with the GT35.
I corner weighted it at Jez's some time ago, IIRC it was 1250 but can't find the photo. It'll probably be a bit heavier (20-30kg) with the 4G and Toyota box.

Jonny Wilkinson

02-12-2014, 14:42

What ! Only 600 powerz. Pah !

lol.

Whatcha gonna use it for, matey ?

Jezz_S13

02-12-2014, 15:56

I've got my eyes on a tastier turbo.

I'll use it for a bit of track, bit of drag & might do a bit of commuting.

Jez

02-12-2014, 17:46

Can't wait for the commuting vids! :D

Jonny Wilkinson

03-12-2014, 07:04

Can't wait for the commuting vids! :D

+1 for that.

Should get some mighty impressive quarter times too. :notworthy

Jezz_S13

11-12-2014, 11:05

Spent a few hours on it it yesterday.
Most of it was measuring and headwork relating to the loom, but I did take some pics.

The only real work I did was secure the N/S/F brakeline with some rivnuts & clips.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/brakelines-04.jpg

Then I played around with the wastegate,

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/wastegate-01.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/wastegate-02.jpg

Had a look at the intake piping. I can't do much with this until the turbo to intercooler hotpipe is finished, so haven't cut the silicon yet; but it's all good and looks like I'll be able to fit a huge filter in there. The one is the photo is 9" long, there's a 14" one which should fit.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/intake-01.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/intake-02.jpg

A big box of connectors arrived today, can never have too many connectors. :wack:

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-01.jpg

I've ordered a new starter cable, because the starter is on the other side of the block, the std one is a couple of feet short. I've also ordered a great load of wire and other stuff to start the loom.
Christmas is Champagne and loom time, pics will follow. :D

Jezz_S13

12-12-2014, 11:27

A big bag of thin wall wire and some other bits just turned up for the loom.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-02.jpg

Jezz_S13

06-01-2015, 20:00

I've been mostly making bits of the loom.

Electric PAS. This takes a speed input form the gearbox; It's a Toyota PAS pump, and I'm using a Toyota box so the loom for the PAS contains all the wiring to power and read the signal from the hall sensor on the gearbox. I don't use the gearbox speed sensor for the dash/ecu, I use average wheel speed for this form the ABS sensors
.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-03.jpg

Relay for electric PAS.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-05.jpg

Injector loom.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-04.jpg

Power distribution block.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-06.jpg

Knock sensor I'm using a bosch sensor rather than the stock 4g63 sensor, I've had to helicoil the block to take it from M10 to M8.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-07.jpg

Fuel pressure sensor screwed into the FPR and ignition power transistors. I'm using S14 Splitfire coils, so am using the S14 and Splitfire power transistors.
I used this setup on my CA and it worked really well; so expect it'll work OK on the 4G.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-08.jpg

General mass of spaghetti.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-09.jpg

VIDAL BABBOON

19-01-2015, 19:46

Looks like its finaly on the home straight now mate...

Get a move on i want a ride lol

Jezz_S13

09-12-2015, 20:02

Have an engine...

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/engine-02.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/engine-01.jpg

Shit loads has happened in the last year, but nothing to show LOL.

Jezz_S13

09-12-2015, 20:25

Some sump pics...

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/sump-20.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/sump-21.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/sump-22.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/sump-23.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/sump-24.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/sump-25.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/sump-26.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/sump-27.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/sump-28.jpg

docwra

10-12-2015, 12:37

Are you doing this as a legacy for your grandchildren? :p

Jezz_S13

10-12-2015, 17:14

Yep. No need to rush LOL.

Jonny Wilkinson

10-12-2015, 19:05

I look at this when you posted the sump pics when I was at work and thought "Lots of little x's. Why post pics of an oily sump ? :confused: "

Just seen them at home and :eek: I can see why they blocked them at work ! That's pron ! Awesome. :notworthy

Jezz_S13

11-12-2015, 17:10

Thanks Jonny, sump porn, how nerdy can it get. :D
95% of the credit goes to Steve who spent the hours making it, with the other 5% being my nagging input.

I'd had better not surge!

dan200s14

11-12-2015, 19:00

nice build looks awesome!

Jezz_S13

15-12-2015, 08:02

To make the water pipes easier to route to the heater matrix and turbo in RWD format the stat housing has had a couple of appendages added.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/stat-housing-03.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/stat-housing-04.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/stat-housing-05.jpg

Evilchap

15-12-2015, 09:46

Please forgive my noob-like post here - but WHEN you do finish this, what are you planning to use it for? :)

Jonny Wilkinson

15-12-2015, 10:30

You sound like my wife, Ben ! It's about the journey, man !

Jezz_S13

15-12-2015, 11:44

LOL, I think Jonny asked that a few pages up.
Bit of track, drag, going to work & mincing around.

Evilchap

15-12-2015, 11:57

You sound like my wife, Ben ! It's about the journey, man !

Sorry for going OT... but it really REALLY isn't. It's about the driving and enjoying it! :D

Gerry

15-12-2015, 12:16

A work of art and no mistake, attention to detail amazing love it :clap:

Jezz_S13

17-12-2015, 11:00

Not much to report, but here's the crack trigger set up.
Ditched the nasty original 4G set up and gone with a sensible Toyota 1ZZ set up.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/trigger-02.jpg

Jezz_S13

10-02-2016, 19:41

As normal, a fair amount been getting done, but not many updates.

here's a few things..

An engine with some covers and pulleys, the pulley on the right is an idle to replace the PAS.
Bit of wire to measure the belt length.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/engine-03.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/engine-04.jpg

We've had to modify the sock water pipe a lot, blanked some bits off, added a rad feed (where blue hose is attached) and on the left you can just see that the original rad feed has been reduced to feed the heater.
The bits were brazed on, it's gone to be plated today.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/coolant-03.jpg

Here's the wastegate piping, all done ready to weld.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/turbo-02.jpg

Jonny Wilkinson

10-02-2016, 19:55

Those fan belts look a bit worn, mate. You might want to look at changing them ! :D

Jezz_S13

22-03-2016, 18:34

update time.

engine & box is in, clutch working, exhaust pretty much finished.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/engine-in-02.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/engine-in-03.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/engine-in-01.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/exhaust-01.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/exhaust-02.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/exhaust-03.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/exhaust-04.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/exhaust-05.jpg

Actual_Ben_Taylor

22-03-2016, 19:53

Wow! Almost looks like it might actually get finished...

Jezz_S13

23-03-2016, 07:26

It was always going to get finished, but who knows when...? :)
Not 'that' much to do now.

Jezz_S13

24-03-2016, 18:43

Spent a couple of hours putting stuff on the car today, here are some pics of some bits.

Water pipe that had a fair amount of butchery carried out on it, before being re-plated.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/waterpipe-01.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/waterpipe-02.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/waterpipe-03.jpg

Clutch, quatermaster twin plate which was a bugger to line up without a tool and a broken lathe. Steve fixed the latch in the end and all was well.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/clutch-01big.jpg

I'm using SR20 Splitfire coils, Steve made a bracket to hold then nice and snug. The best bit is that the stock coil cover still fits so looks factory, as long as they don't start overheating...

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/coils-01big.jpg

And finally the prop all connected up ready to go...

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/prop-box-01.jpg

Jezz_S13

24-08-2016, 20:45

Update time...

Much work has been done to mount the radiator and IC, the loom is essentially compete and is in the car and the output tests being done.

As ever Steve has been awesome at making the shiny bits, and I've been playing with wires.

I'm going to dump some photos...

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/waterpipe-04.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/waterpipe-05.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/waterpipe-06.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/waterpipe-07.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-10.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-11.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-12.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-13.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-14.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-15.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-16.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-17.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-18.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-19.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/loom-20.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rad-ic-01.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rad-ic-02.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rad-ic-03.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rad-ic-04.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rad-ic-05.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rad-ic-06.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rad-ic-07.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rad-ic-08.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rad-ic-09.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rad-ic-10.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rad-ic-11.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rad-ic-12.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/engine-in-04.jpg

Actual_Ben_Taylor

25-08-2016, 10:31

Nice work!

Pete C

26-08-2016, 13:46

Best project ever.

Jezz_S13

26-08-2016, 19:02

Cheers Pete, best slowest project ever, maybe? :)

Did my ignition and injection testing today, that was all good and all in the right order.

The rad fans didn't work though, relays are latching but the plugs to the fan are a bit corroded. Easy fix.
Electric PAS relay isn't latching though, that's a bit of a bum as it's overly complicated. It was working before I decided to use the ECU control it so that it can't start (and drain battery) before the engine is running and the battery voltage at a healthy level, i.e. alternator working.

Will sort it all and get the dash all sorted next week.

Jonny Wilkinson

26-08-2016, 20:14

Get in with it ! I don't have that much longer to live and want to see it finished !!!! :D ( i guess who hit another age milestone yesterday :( )

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Jezz_S13

27-08-2016, 12:57

They big 7 - 0? Happy B'day Jonny. :)

docwra

30-08-2016, 13:37

They big 7 - 0? Happy B'day Jonny. :)

We will all be 70 before you finish this thing. :D

Jonny Wilkinson

30-08-2016, 14:17

They big 7 - 0? Happy B'day Jonny. :)

I look :ken:, I often feel pretty old and I'm losing my marbles BUT I was only tipping into late-50s :(

As Doc says, I'll probs be in my 70s before you finish it if I live that long :wack:

Jezz_S13

30-08-2016, 18:13

It's nearly finished, comparatively.
Might finish it before I'm 44.

Had a few hours on it today, fans working and got the remaining loom wiring for the fan relays finished.
Electric PAS, I know what needs doing to make it work, need to get some bits. The control unit for it is a bit fussy so need to work around it.
Tested some more ECU output functions, and calibrated the G sensors.
Started sorting some of the interior wiring for gauges, switches etc. Need to order some bits.

Jezz_S13

24-12-2016, 10:28

Some fluids went in yesterday, might turn it over to see if I can get some oil pressure next week...

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/engine-in-05.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/engine-in-06.jpg

Pete C

04-01-2017, 18:48

Somewhat delayed reply but so clean! :)

Jezz_S13

09-03-2017, 18:15

A picture of the bracket and DBW throttle pedal.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/throttle-pedal-01.jpg

A video... First start today.
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Got lots of mapping to do, but it runs.

Jonny Wilkinson

09-03-2017, 19:25

Woohoo ! It lives ! :clap:

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Pablo13

09-03-2017, 21:30

Yay :)

Actual_Ben_Taylor

09-03-2017, 22:44

Took your time...

Jezz_S13

28-03-2018, 21:05

Ok, been a year. maybe an update.
It's kinda finished (will never be actually finished), but is on the road.

Here's a dyno graph, 496@1.5Bar (432 @ wheels), the run was at a light/fast ramp rate somewhere between 2nd and 3rd gear pull on the road. Gets to 2bar around 4k in 5th gear on the road.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rr-496.jpeg

Jezz_S13

28-03-2018, 21:16

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/onrr.jpeg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/dash.jpeg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/rearcar.jpeg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/frontcar.jpeg

Jezz_S13

28-03-2018, 21:31

oil cooler... Yummy.

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/oil-cooler-01.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/oil-cooler-02.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/oil-cooler-03.jpg

Actual_Ben_Taylor

29-03-2018, 10:03

Never thought I'd see the day!

You going to sell it now? :wack:

Jezz_S13

29-03-2018, 11:11

Never thought I'd see the day!

You going to sell it now? :wack:

I'm too old for this shit now, wanna buy it?

Actual_Ben_Taylor

29-03-2018, 11:26

I'm too old for this shit now, wanna buy it?

Nah, I got old and bought an Aston Martin instead

docwra

29-03-2018, 13:39

12 month coma was it mate? Good to see you pulled through :D

Jezz_S13

29-03-2018, 17:31

No too busy to post LOL

Pete C

06-04-2018, 14:19

Awesome that you finally got it on the road! That might just be the best S13 on here now... except mine obviously :p

Jezz_S13

10-03-2019, 17:25

Went to a Dyno Day at Jez's today organised by Limitless.
It was great to see Jez again, it's been a while.

Anyway, it didn't go too badly; but I'm sure there's another 50 ponies in this turbo.
Needs to be mapped by someone that knows what they are doing, i.e. not me. :D

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Jonny Wilkinson

11-03-2019, 13:08

That's properly impressive, mate :clap:

Actual_Ben_Taylor

11-03-2019, 13:50

Nice one :)

Jezz_S13

18-04-2019, 18:55

So, I've been looking at setting up flat shifting/gear cut using the clutch as a trigger, should I go drag racing to keep the boost up and the shifts fast.
I had a simple (brake) switch on the pedal but found that i drive with my foot on the pedal, and the little bit of lash in the pedal meant the switch was being activated even though the clutch is engaged, resulting in all sorts of unwanted pops and bangs.
I stumbled across a post in a FB group where someone said use the fork for more accuracy, so I took it a bit further and got a position sensor and used that, with this i can configure my ECU with the exact point (voltage threshold) the clutch is disengaged. Meaning the gear cut is only active whilst the clutch is disengaged.

Geeky, but cool.

https://youtu.be/RoXqqUJaap4

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Jezz_S13

18-04-2019, 19:13

A bit more geek.
The fuel pump doesn't need to running full chat all the time, needlessly heating up the fuel and making a load of noise so I've connected and mapped a Jaguar F-Type fuel pump controller (Same used in a few cars XFR, XKR, Aston Martins).
This takes a PWM signal from the ECU and runs the pump at the required duty for the boost/load demand.

Straight from the scrappers, £30, there's a place in NZ selling 'reconditioned' ones for ~£250
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Needed some headwork with a scope to work out how it works...
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And in she goes...
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Pablo13

18-04-2019, 20:55

Great Stuff Jezz, both cool ideas.

I could actually do with a pump controller too, so you just worked out what it was doing on the pico scope and hooked it up to the relevant relays needed, no actual software changes?

Can you make me one? :wack: :D

Jezz_S13

20-04-2019, 11:58

The controller is controlled by the ECU (Syvecs in my case), your ECU needs to have a PWM fuel pump strategy and spare TTL (ignition) output; though you can make it work with a normal output but it reverses the duty, ignition outputs are active high, normal outputs go to ground when active. The Jag controller is expecting active high.
The jag controller is a bit odd.
It takes a 100hz signal input, and gives a 20kHz output to the pump. The duty of the input signal is roughly doubled, 4% input duty is roughly 8% pump duty, 49% input is ~98% pump. Below 4% or above ~52% input tuns the output/pump off.

I actually use 2 fuel pump outputs, one to turn on the relay which powers up the controller, and the other to do the PWM control.

If you could find a device which will take a 5v input and convert that to a PWM signal then you could hook it up to your MAP sensor. This sort of device does exist.

There's a post (4th from the end) on the page linked below by AlexjC4 which inspired me to check the jag unit out.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=66&t=916550&i=320

You could alternatively use a Solid State Relay and diode etc, but I seen some mixed reviews. Consensus seems to be to avoid cheap ones.
I will probably use one or two SSRs to control my cooling fans, the instantaneous load of the fans starting upsets the idle a bit, so if I can feed them in gradually and at a duty proportional to engine temp then it'd be much better.