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gareth - track
11-02-2007, 10:45
I thought I share with you my project im currently doing at the moment, it all started last year when I brought a crash damaged toyota chaser from the scrap yard, (half cut) these have the same engine as a toyota soarer (1jz 2.5twin turbo) but have a front sump setup requried to fit into a 200sx....

Pic of donar car... bargain of the yearr paid 400 for the whole car, got everything required (loom, turbos, engine etc etc) car had only covered 36 thousand miles from new, car started 1st time and sound awesome, 280 bhp as standard
carhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/14102006063-1.jpg

Engine removed from donar car
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0344-1.jpg

Next task was deciding what car to put the lump into, I was toying on fitting it to a mk1 golf, but the amount of work required was extreme, so luck would have it I came across a 200sx with blown engine in the local paper, the car was almost rust free, and ideal car for the conversion..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0300.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0302.jpg


1st task was to strip the inside of the car, the idea was to remove everything from the rear end and just have to front seats..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0329.jpg
After many hrs removing all the sound mat the inside was ready to be sprayed, at the same time I welded in a rear strut brace..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0416.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0418.jpg

over the next couple of weeks I managed to start getting parts for the car, apex coilovers, 17" alloys, mongoose system, bucket seats etc etc
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0415.jpg


Only real rust on the car was the boot..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0324.jpg
so I cut it all out all the rust and welded in new plates, just needs a lot of prep work now with filler to finish.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0325.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0326.jpg

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Next the engine came out... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0307.jpg

gareth - track
11-02-2007, 10:46
This is about as far as ive got, the new engine is trail fitted, I just need to fabricate so mounts up, once this has been done, the engine will be getting removed and the engine bay will getting blown over, once this has been done I can really crack on with it. Currently it’s taking a back burner due to other projects, but should be getting starting back on it in a few weeks..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0384-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0376.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0374.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0359-1.jpg

aiming for approx 450 / 500bhp so far ive brought the following for the engine:
Custom single turbo manifold (external wastegate)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0414.jpg
Tial 40mm external wastegate
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0411.jpg
Hks pulleys, buying cams shortly.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0419.jpg
gt30/35 turbo hopefully getting this week..
emanage
apexi boost controller
paddle clutch with, race flywheel

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/DSCF0413.jpg
5 speed manual box

Theres loads ive missed out.. I update once ive made some more progress

jatpoolsx
11-02-2007, 10:49
:thumbs: Looks like a really good project. The car will certainly move with 280bhp under the hood:wack:

SM
11-02-2007, 10:50
Fantastic Project :notworthy

Have you got any steering issues? I heard the engine would foul the steering?

gareth - track
11-02-2007, 11:13
Fantastic Project :notworthy

Have you got any steering issues? I heard the engine would foul the steering?

It does clear, but its a tight fit the main problem is the front anti roll bar as it hits the sump, so looks a custom one will have to be made..

Another problem is the exhaust down pipe as this will be v tight round the steering rack area


jatpoolsx - 280bhp is standard should be doing around 450 - 500:cool:


Pic of wheels and suspension fitted
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/22102006064.jpg

The_BULK
11-02-2007, 11:51
looks :cool:, keep up the good work.

have you thought about the brakes yet, what are your plans for that.

skeets
11-02-2007, 11:58
awesome project mate :thumbs:

whats a "front sump setup"? does the 2jz not have that- making it a more difficult swap?

200krisx
11-02-2007, 12:15
OMG! Love the JZ engine :D Great project mate, keep us updated :D

Oh yeah, and good luck!

Kris :)

ian_t
11-02-2007, 13:12
:notworthy

:)

gareth - track
11-02-2007, 14:59
looks :cool:, keep up the good work.

have you thought about the brakes yet, what are your plans for that.


Brakes are sorted, ive got a norris design front brakes setup, with 300zx rear calipers and discs, complete 300zx master cyclinder, and goodridge hoses. All the suspension is getting sandblasted and polybushed before I fit them though.



awesome project mate :thumbs:

whats a "front sump setup"? does the 2jz not have that- making it a more difficult swap?

Basically 1jz engines were fitted to a few different toyota`s, the soarer has a rear sump setup, the chaser has a front sump setup, and another 1 uses a mid sump setup, mid and rear setups hit the crossmember on a 200sx so you can only use a front sump setup, these are aperently v difficult to get hold of, im insure on what the 2jz uses, apperently a good setup is to use a 2jz bottom end with a 1jz top end = 1.5 jz = silly power

purplepower
11-02-2007, 15:17
Nice project! - It was only a matter of time before someone put a JZ in a 200 in the UK :cool:

How much does the ARB foul by? - You can space them out with longer bolts & sleeve nuts.. :)

Marcos
11-02-2007, 15:32
Nice work, that's going to be a hell of a car. Any chance of you bringing it to the Bluewater meet if it starts again?

arry
11-02-2007, 15:34
yes, yes yes yes :notworthy

Parker
11-02-2007, 15:39
Wow, can't wait to see that, great project to have on my doorstep :D

PhilMorrison
11-02-2007, 15:42
Sweet :). The 2JZ going in our S15 is rear sump, which has worked out fantastically as we've pushed the whole lot back through the bulkhead 8"s..
Also my daily driver is a Toyota Soarer 1jz, and you will absolutely love the power delivery and smoothness of the engine.

wutang200
11-02-2007, 16:01
Very nice project :notworthy

Sx_Jay
11-02-2007, 16:53
Lookin good man

bkvj
11-02-2007, 17:23
very cool!

on a side note, didnt know you where 2jz'ing your S15 phil!

cliffb75
11-02-2007, 17:46
Looking good so far.

Good luck with it. We'll be watching :thumbs:

SHELLAC
11-02-2007, 21:10
Very nice
If you nees a spare pair of hands at any time, let me know.

dunc
11-02-2007, 21:18
I've got a 1JZ soarer too and you're gonna love this engine to bits mate, they are as sweet as you get - totally love mine :thumbs:

Dunc.

SteveDunn
11-02-2007, 23:03
Boo, I wanted to do it first :cry: :D

jatpoolsx
12-02-2007, 12:53
500bhp, it will be a beast for sure :)

twaiter
12-02-2007, 13:00
wow what a great project this will be:smitten:

Beezy
12-02-2007, 16:14
A proper project!!! :clap: Good stuff fella, Not shore whether thats enouth power though? :D

gareth - track
12-02-2007, 17:10
Nice project! - It was only a matter of time before someone put a JZ in a 200 in the UK :cool:

How much does the ARB foul by? - You can space them out with longer bolts & sleeve nuts.. :)

It fails by a fair bit, ideally it could do with a longer one, have you got any info / pics about spacing it out?


Nice work, that's going to be a hell of a car. Any chance of you bringing it to the Bluewater meet if it starts again?

It will defently run again... wiring is bit of a head ache! if the meet isnt miles away then yeah no probs :)


A proper project!!! :clap: Good stuff fella, Not shore whether thats enouth power though? :D
Ive read you can take them up to 600hp before you need to start ripping the engine apart... so 450 / 500 should be good for starts ;)



Engine has been blocked up today, so im ready to make some mounts up for it, hopefully by the end of next week, engine should be out, and then engine bay willl get prep for spraying

mike_s14
12-02-2007, 17:26
nice project, you really dropped on getting the donar car there

bullet proof engines, even when tuned :D

JRhys
12-02-2007, 18:24
love it :thumbs: excellent project by the look of it mate :clap:

xcapade
15-02-2007, 23:43
all i can say is that is the most amazing project i have seen to date well done fella hats off to u!!!

Yourself and Purplepower are defo engine gurus in me eyes well done once again can you tell me how much ul charge to do an S14a lol

Si
15-02-2007, 23:54
awesome!

Really mundane question - but are they scooby front seats? how easy were they to fit?

gareth - track
16-02-2007, 11:32
awesome!

Really mundane question - but are they scooby front seats? how easy were they to fit?


Yes thats correct, there out of a scooby, there fairly easy to fit as the subframe design is v similar to the 200sx setup:thumbs:

Beezy
02-03-2007, 20:37
Any Update???

JJ
02-03-2007, 21:01
you arent the first mate ;) One guy in Holland allready did this :D

still a nice nice project!!!!

Faithfull
02-03-2007, 21:28
Cracking looking project mate!

Keep up the good work:thumbs:

Ady

Ed
02-03-2007, 22:38
Sweet, first I've seen of this thread, and all I can say is its awesome :smitten:

I know you can get a kit for the 2JZ from the US which has a modified crossmemeber, but its good to know its possible without that extra expense :nod:

SteveSadler
03-03-2007, 11:46
Really nice work mate. ive been researching into this conversion myself and have even gathered info and a few bits and bobs over the last couple of years ( 2J into my Bayside Blue S13). A good mate of mine has just fitted a 2JZ into an E30. All running sweet with a nice big single turbo.Sounds nice and shifts too being in such a light chassis. Those engines are sweet, favour them over the Nissan in many ways. Look forward to seeing your completed project.

Im sure its gonna shift with that mani and turbo combo you got lined up.

Keep us all posted, especially with pics.

SteveSadler
03-03-2007, 11:47
I know you can get a kit for the 2JZ from the US which has a modified crossmemeber, but its good to know its possible without that extra expense :nod:[/QUOTE]


http://www.2jzswap.com

SpencerS14
03-03-2007, 12:00
i love the projects that happen on these boards :notworthy

gareth - track
12-03-2007, 18:03
Any Update???

Started back on this week, ive brought a fair few new items inc, a wibe band kit, massive front mount and another s13 shell.

Started rebuilding the brakes I brought, fitting new seals etc.

Engine is in its correct postion and going to hopefully make the mounts this week / weekend.



you arent the first mate ;) One guy in Holland allready did this :D

still a nice nice project!!!!

There is actually a bloke in australia that has done this already as well, been chatting to him, and been getting a lot of info / hints:thumbs: but I do belive this is the only 1 in the uk ?


I get some more pics up once theres a reasonable amount of progress

V-power
15-03-2007, 20:51
what badge u will put on. Toyota or Nissan or Niyota or.....:annoyed: :annoyed: :annoyed:

lee_sander
18-03-2007, 10:56
looks like an awesome project:thumbs:

stupid question but,... does that manifold mean u can run a twin entry turbo?? or have u considered it at all?
probly means loads of ecu mapping nightmares but oh well:wack:

cant wait to hear about it when its done:nod:

gareth - track
18-03-2007, 11:55
looks like an awesome project:thumbs:

stupid question but,... does that manifold mean u can run a twin entry turbo?? or have u considered it at all?
probly means loads of ecu mapping nightmares but oh well:wack:

cant wait to hear about it when its done:nod:


Basically the manifold ive got converts the twin turbo setup, into a single turbo setup, you can buy twin turbo manifolds such as hks jobbies, but to get serious power out of it you really need to go single turbo + its cheaper.

Be mapping it myself, but yeah no doubt lots of time mapping the thing

RohanC
19-03-2007, 12:59
looks like an awesome project:thumbs:

stupid question but,... does that manifold mean u can run a twin entry turbo?? or have u considered it at all?
probly means loads of ecu mapping nightmares but oh well:wack:

cant wait to hear about it when its done:nod:

IIRC you have to run a twin entry on a straight 6 or you end up with exhaust pulses clashing.

Something like that anyway, have read about it.

Not sure if that applies to Tubular manifolds, but certainly does with log mani's.

BTW, nice project sir :nod:

Pete C
19-03-2007, 13:45
IIRC you have to run a twin entry on a straight 6 or you end up with exhaust pulses clashing.

Something like that anyway, have read about it.

Really? My Cosworth T3 is about as old tech as you can get, I'm sure it's not twin entry (whatever that is), but it seems to do OK :D

Butuz
19-03-2007, 13:56
Nice project! :D

Butuz

doz
19-03-2007, 18:49
totally loving it :)

lee_sander
20-03-2007, 16:20
Basically the manifold ive got converts the twin turbo setup, into a single turbo setup, you can buy twin turbo manifolds such as hks jobbies, but to get serious power out of it you really need to go single turbo + its cheaper.

Be mapping it myself, but yeah no doubt lots of time mapping the thing

cool, just wondering:rolleyes:
or u could go VNT and really make it hard for urself mapping it!:confused:

keep us posted and keep the pics coming:thumbs:

lee

Wolvreen
20-03-2007, 17:29
Are all the turbos twin, I assume they are with the v6?
What is the great website with all the japanese stats, catalog something?

Dori Mat
20-03-2007, 18:02
what a great conversion :notworthy

i've got an s13 and a 1JZ soarer hmm :D

RohanC
20-03-2007, 18:28
Are all the turbos twin, I assume they are with the v6?
What is the great website with all the japanese stats, catalog something?

Most turbo V6's are Twin Tubby becuase of the packaging constraints.

Just imagine what the zorst manifolds would be like if you had to route both banks round to one turbo.

Direct quote from forced induction performance tuning, WRT the twin entry turbo:

"The min requirement for a single turbo staight 6 is to run a split pulse turbine (twin entry) and divided zorst manifold, otherwise the zorst gas will backflow into other cylinders, upsetting combustion & fuel efficency"

That not the only place i have read that either.

Subcat001
20-03-2007, 18:51
:D Sweet project.

Out of curiousity what gearbox are you going to be using??

gareth - track
22-03-2007, 11:57
what a great conversion :notworthy

i've got an s13 and a 1JZ soarer hmm :D

I may be making a kit to sale if the demand is there, for the s13 / s14, as these engine are cheap to pick up




:D Sweet project.

Out of curiousity what gearbox are you going to be using??

running a mk4 supra w58 manual box, as its a lot thinner and a lot less weight compared to the r154 box, hoping that where the car is so light it wont destroy the box... on the + side there v cheap to replace and plentyful

Wolvreen
22-03-2007, 12:06
Could you have an auto option, say the soarer autobox with the engine?

gareth - track
22-03-2007, 14:28
Could you have an auto option, say the soarer autobox with the engine?


Yes most probaly, the engine I brought came with a auto box, but I wanted a manual so got rid of it, there v similar in size etc. If your going to run a lot of power through the auto you need to buy some sort of kit for them, which stops them shifting so quickly *i belive*

s13silvia
22-03-2007, 15:24
whats this....

its your 10 second car!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/14102006063-1.jpg

no shit a 1jz engine

RohanC
22-03-2007, 20:03
running a mk4 supra w58 manual box, as its a lot thinner and a lot less weight compared to the r154 box, hoping that where the car is so light it wont destroy the box... on the + side there v cheap to replace and plentyful

Wondered about these gearboxes, so found this site:

http://www.reanimotion.com/ToyMods/toyota_Manual_Boxes.htm

Wolvreen
23-03-2007, 08:35
Yes most probaly, the engine I brought came with a auto box, but I wanted a manual so got rid of it, there v similar in size etc. If your going to run a lot of power through the auto you need to buy some sort of kit for them, which stops them shifting so quickly *i belive*


Wow, then this is a good plan for a power hike for us auto users. Swap out the engine, gearbox, and drive train to handle the extra power?

How much heavier is the engine over the sr20det?

For a non-mechanic like me, how much would it cost for an expert to do it for me?

I have heard its the same autobox as the supra, which presumably will take the power.

gareth - track
23-03-2007, 18:25
Wondered about these gearboxes, so found this site:

http://www.reanimotion.com/ToyMods/toyota_Manual_Boxes.htm

Thats a handy website:thumbs: gives you the diamensions for each box.. well handy



Wow, then this is a good plan for a power hike for us auto users. Swap out the engine, gearbox, and drive train to handle the extra power?

How much heavier is the engine over the str20det?

For a non-mechanic like me, how much would it cost for an expert to do it for me?

I have heard its the same autobox as the supra, which presumably will take the power.

Ive got no idea how much heavier it is... certainly feels heavy!! the autos can certainly handle the power, think there practically the same box as the supra, no idea on costs, main problem is the prop shaft and front anti roll bar...

jojo65
23-03-2007, 18:33
keep it up, looking good

blue boy
23-03-2007, 19:46
Anymore pics and updates. Top notch project going down here:thumbs:

Beezy
11-04-2007, 21:07
Updates?? I need to see some JZ Love!!! :)

Marakon
23-05-2007, 20:46
awesome project mate :thumbs:

whats a "front sump setup"? does the 2jz not have that- making it a more difficult swap?

The Aristo 2jz has a front sump setup. Some sweedish dude how was allredy doing this projekt, that i could use the supra sump if I made a new hole for the oil return.

I am dooing the same projekt soon( in Estonia), first have to get all the parts for it. But if ur comming up with the custom engine mouts eanytime soon for sale, then il be hapy to buy.

The mark III supra has the 1jz also whit the r154, im going my self that way.

gareth - track
24-05-2007, 11:44
Well a small update, 1 mount has been totally finished, the other mounts have been cut and just needs bending and welding...

Its been sitting on hold at the moment due to so many other projects :(

Marakon - the 2jz is basically the same engine, a lot of people use the 2jz bottom end with the 1jz top end to create a 1.5jz, you ideally need the front sump setup, unless you plan to cut the bulk head, and move the engine backwards

Scottie
24-05-2007, 15:27
Really interesting project and great to read the updates. :thumbs:

What are your other projects, are they equally as good. :)

Loose Hand Luke
24-05-2007, 18:47
whats this....

its your 10 second car!

no shit a 1jz engine

LOL! :thumbs: Bet there's not a thread in the world containing a JZ engine that hasn't had a quote from Vin in it! :D

This is a great project! Could this be a good alternative to RB engine swaps?
Any idea on the cost of the conversion without too many fancy bits?

:sxoc:

gareth - track
24-05-2007, 19:28
Really interesting project and great to read the updates. :thumbs:

What are your other projects, are they equally as good. :)

None are as good as this, but I buy and sell a lot of cars / bikes the profit made of them goes towards this project.... a big turbo and cams arent cheap :(


LOL! :thumbs: Bet there's not a thread in the world containing a JZ engine that hasn't had a quote from Vin in it! :D

This is a great project! Could this be a good alternative to RB engine swaps?
Any idea on the cost of the conversion without too many fancy bits?

:sxoc:

The mounts arent that hard to make... its just the sump arrangment which will cost a lot, as most soarer engines have centre setup sumps, and ideally you need a front setup sump... I was extremely lucky to find my setup, also got to consider the exhaust sytem (turbo sits on other side) and custom prop, which wont be cheap

Marakon
24-05-2007, 19:53
The mounts arent that hard to make... its just the sump arrangment which will cost a lot, as most soarer engines have centre setup sumps, and ideally you need a front setup sump... I was extremely lucky to find my setup, also got to consider the exhaust sytem (turbo sits on other side) and custom prop, which wont be cheap

Isnt it correct that this projet is easyer for the LHD Sx? There will be no need to customise the oil pan settup if u have the front sump settup, if the engine mouts where made to fit it.

Id be wery interested to see pictures of your version of the mounts, and if u make extra ones Id be interested ;)

gareth - track
25-05-2007, 11:46
Isnt it correct that this projet is easyer for the LHD Sx? There will be no need to customise the oil pan settup if u have the front sump settup, if the engine mouts where made to fit it.

Id be wery interested to see pictures of your version of the mounts, and if u make extra ones Id be interested ;)

I dont belive it would any easier with refernce to oil pan - it would probaly be easier due to the steering rack rod being on the otherside, as there not a lot of space when the turbo downpipe is bolted on - although I havent ever seen a lhd drive sx so you may be rite:thumbs:

Seth
08-06-2007, 12:39
Any updates? :)

KeE_mAo
09-06-2007, 01:28
great project :thumbs:

is this the first 1j/2j into a 200 in UK?

out here (Thailand), there are many used 2jz so it is a cheap engine to get big power.
my friend has a bmw 3 series with a 1jz running 600+ that does 11 sec 0-400m,
and another friend has a 200 with s15 strawberry face, with 2jz running 550hp+ that does under 11s 0-400m... however he crashed that now.. (that happens a lot out here too)

what turbo are you running?

i will try to get some pics/scans of the setups out here, which could be of interest.

gareth - track
09-06-2007, 10:19
Any updates? :)

Mounts have all been flanged up, just need to weld some strengthing brackets in place, and then the engine can be bolted in for a trail fit :) once im happy it will be coming out and hks cams will be fitted, and clutch and flywheel will be also fitted.



great project :thumbs:

is this the first 1j/2j into a 200 in UK?

out here (Thailand), there are many used 2jz so it is a cheap engine to get big power.
my friend has a bmw 3 series with a 1jz running 600+ that does 11 sec 0-400m,
and another friend has a 200 with s15 strawberry face, with 2jz running 550hp+ that does under 11s 0-400m... however he crashed that now.. (that happens a lot out here too)

what turbo are you running?

i will try to get some pics/scans of the setups out here, which could be of interest.

I belive its the 1st s13 running a 1jz lump in the uk.. I belive theres another member on here running a 2jz lump in an s14..

Going to run a gt3076r (external wastegate)

Pictures would be great :thumbs: always good to get some ideas
:thumbs:

Gaz Walker
10-06-2007, 00:05
Watching with interest :D

doz
12-06-2007, 17:24
Are you using the stock 200sx front subframe and welding your own mounts to that?

gareth - track
14-06-2007, 11:30
Are you using the stock 200sx front subframe and welding your own mounts to that?


The mounts ive made up bolt up to the existing subframe, so no modication of the subframe is requried :thumbs:

doz
14-06-2007, 12:11
Thats pretty cool. pm sent :)

SteveSadler
14-06-2007, 12:24
great project :thumbs:

is this the first 1j/2j into a 200 in UK?

out here (Thailand), there are many used 2jz so it is a cheap engine to get big power.
my friend has a bmw 3 series with a 1jz running 600+ that does 11 sec 0-400m,
and another friend has a 200 with s15 strawberry face, with 2jz running 550hp+ that does under 11s 0-400m... however he crashed that now.. (that happens a lot out here too)

what turbo are you running?

i will try to get some pics/scans of the setups out here, which could be of interest.

You dont know my mate Kish do ya by any chance, he's also got a E30 beemer with an SR20DET and running gear but was also on about dropping in a 1JZ in.?

SteveSadler
14-06-2007, 12:26
looking like its gonna be a nice little conversion.

theres a 2jz powered E30 down here in North London, in bayside blue thats gonna be a bit of a beast. ill try and dig out the pics and get em up.

has anyone actually dropped a 1 or 2jz into an S13 / S14 over here in the UK yet??

DR1FT3R
14-06-2007, 13:00
nice project :thumbs:

Marakon
02-07-2007, 15:23
Mounts have all been flanged up, just need to weld some strengthing brackets in place, and then the engine can be bolted in for a trail fit :) once im happy it will be coming out and hks cams will be fitted, and clutch and flywheel will be also fitted.

:thumbs:

eany pics of the motor mouts?

gareth - track
03-07-2007, 11:20
Sorry no pics

LMS_MAN
05-07-2007, 08:05
Just out of curiosity, is this a similar engine to that fitted in the Mk2 or 3 Supra?

ian_t
05-07-2007, 08:46
The 1JZ is a '90s toyota soarer engine I believe.

playworker
05-07-2007, 09:25
Was also fitted to the JDM Mk3 Supra, don't know about the Mk2 though

Seth
05-07-2007, 09:27
The 1JZ was fitted to the JZA70 (MK3) Supra in Japan as well as the JZX family (Chaser, Mark 2, Cresta) and Soarer.

The 3 litre 2JZ was fitted to the JZA80 (Mk4) Supra

LMS_MAN
05-07-2007, 12:35
Can I just ask what a Supra Mk4 is? I thought there was only 3. The Celica Supra, Supra with pop up lights & final twin turbo Supra from K reg on. Whats the other one? I'm describing UK spec ones there btw.:)

disco-tom
05-07-2007, 17:14
http://www.ma70.com/bishop92t/differ.html

Seth
05-07-2007, 17:42
The power of Google :wack: :D

LMS_MAN
05-07-2007, 19:26
Thanks for that, I onle ever remember seeing the Mk1s batched as Celicas in the Uk.:confused:

Mitch
24-10-2007, 17:35
How's this coming along? Half thinking about doing one...:D

gareth - track
26-10-2007, 11:27
How's this coming along? Half thinking about doing one...:D

Slowly... the 2nd mount is made just need to weld some strengthening brackets on it, and then I need to make the gearbox mounts...

ordered some hks cams which should be here by next week, once these are here, it will get me motivated to finish the mounts off and get the engine removed, so I can start putting it all together.

Still a long way off, its amazing the amount of money it owes me, :eek:

I get some new pics up shortly

Mitch
26-10-2007, 12:58
Would it be best to buy a soarer for all the donor parts, plus the manual conversion bits from a supra and a bell housing, or just get the bits seperately?

gareth - track
26-10-2007, 20:14
It really depends on what your plans are - are you going to keep the engine standard, if you are I would recomend a complete soarer or similar, but if you plan on single turbo, cams etc, you wont use a lot from the car, so a complete car is probaly a waste.

The most important thing to get 1st is a front sump setup from a chaser, as soarers run mid sumps I belive, which cant be used due to the cross member.

Your be lucky to find a manual soarer, so more than likely you would have to source the gearbox else where.

Mitch
27-10-2007, 07:17
Cheers Gareth. It all depends on the sale of the S15 and the like for money. I'd have to have another drift car while it was being built because I hate being off the road.

Is the Chaser sump a straight fit onto the engine, or does it have a different pick up?

gareth - track
27-10-2007, 19:52
I think the pick up pipe is different as well, you do see the sumps and pick up pipes forsale on ebay now and again:thumbs:

Mitch
27-10-2007, 19:57
Cheers. How are you wiring it all in, or are you crossing that bridge as and when?

gareth - track
27-10-2007, 21:38
Orginally I was gioing to splice the chaser loom into the s13 loom, but im tempted to go standalone, the electric side shouldnt be to difficult

Seth
28-10-2007, 10:19
I’d be interested in how you get on with the wiring, so far I’ve found no wiring diagrams for the Chaser and only limited information on the Soarer (which I believe shares the same ECU).

Don’t know if it’ll help but you don’t have a Chaser front end, it’s a JZX90 Mark 2 :)

gareth - track
28-10-2007, 18:37
I’d be interested in how you get on with the wiring, so far I’ve found no wiring diagrams for the Chaser and only limited information on the Soarer (which I believe shares the same ECU).

Don’t know if it’ll help but you don’t have a Chaser front end, it’s a JZX90 Mark 2 :)

Yeah the jzx90 and jzz30 (soarer) do share the same ecu, its possible to get a apexi power fc, but these arent no longer made for these cars, and go for a lot second hand, hence why im considering standalone.

The problem im having is finding any diagrams on the hydro fan, which I want to keep, as ive been told these are very good:annoyed:

Silencer
20-12-2007, 06:51
any updates here?


really starting to consider binning the crap CA!
and over here the engine costs half that of a RB25, im hoping its more reliable too

mascot
21-12-2007, 23:46
hi mate

i did this convershion a couple of years ago and you are able to keep the standard sump all thats needed is a skyline front cross member that gets you round the problem

as for the wiring am afraid i can help as a freind of myn that is a auto electrichian made me a new custom loom but if u need the info i will ask for you

hope thats some help

gareth - track
22-12-2007, 20:03
any updates here?


really starting to consider binning the crap CA!
and over here the engine costs half that of a RB25, im hoping its more reliable too

Not much of an update, got most of the parts now, just trying to find the time to crack on with it, working 7 days a week its kinda tricky:(


hi mate

i did this convershion a couple of years ago and you are able to keep the standard sump all thats needed is a skyline front cross member that gets you round the problem

as for the wiring am afraid i can help as a freind of myn that is a auto electrichian made me a new custom loom but if u need the info i will ask for you

hope thats some help

Thanks for the help :thumbs: I guess thats using a rear sump setup?

ive got the mounts made up now, but it may help others.

Ive cheated with the wiring and gone standalone

Jak_Jenkins
23-12-2007, 10:29
The 3 litre 2JZ was fitted to the JZA80 (Mk4) Supra

and also the Aristo :wave:

http://www.admiration.ne.jp/car_contents/createur/01toyota/main_photo/03aristo_f01.jpg

Silencer
29-12-2007, 10:13
what are you going to do about the speedo and rev gauges, is it possible to get them them to work?

gareth - track
10-02-2008, 17:08
Small update - engine mounts are now made and the engine is all bolted in :)

exhaust manifold is trial fitted, and the turbo just needs turning round

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gareth23/P6300002.jpg

Tom_w
10-02-2008, 17:13
any pics of your mounts mate? looking at something similar for a friend and need to get some info regarding mounts and crossmembers

gareth - track
10-02-2008, 17:24
Sorry no pics of the mounts - I just using the standard cross member with fabricated mounts to align up with the existing cross member

Tom_w
10-02-2008, 17:33
did you ever put the engine in the bay with stock manifold on it?

i would like to know where the twins/downpipes would be in relation to the steering collum?

gareth - track
10-02-2008, 17:36
No I didnt, I know you can run the standard turbos as ive seen pics of one in japan running the twins, even running a single the exhaust will run close to the steering collum, theres not a lot of room

Mitch
10-02-2008, 19:41
Might be easier to use my LHD S13 then?