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Petrol
12-04-2006, 20:56
I really don’t know how far to go with this. The plan was to sort the rust, re underseal and generally tidy it up. One thing can lead to another though and I might end up stripping it to the shell and rebuilding everything. I have been looking at shotblasting gear already :eek:
The engine has an unusual rattle. Linky
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=208811

I have spent 2 days trying to find the problem but could really do to sort this before I decide my plan. Here’s some pics of the car and I will update this thread with my progress :)

The good....

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/001.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/002.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/003.jpg



The not so good

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/004.jpg


http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/005.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/006.jpg


http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/007.jpg

And yes that's 3 "Datsuns" on my drive now :D

slider200
12-04-2006, 21:00
nice paintwork fella

stumitch
12-04-2006, 21:32
Is that the undriven in OOOOhh so long S14 in the background??

Petrol
12-04-2006, 21:48
Is that the undriven in OOOOhh so long S14 in the background??
:nod: Just for the record.... I do take it out :D Pic was taken in the Dales earler this month ;)

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S14%20pics/S14Dales.jpg

Jem
12-04-2006, 21:51
Petrol in 'owning car with rust' shocker:eek:

Looks like it's gone to a good home:nod:

muttley
12-04-2006, 21:51
http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/003.jpg
One nice clean tailgate :thumbs: thats looking quite sweet, not as bad as my RED SHED, 3 datsuns beats my 2 datsuns and a merc, and no driveway, and a lot of pi$$ed of neighbours...

stumitch
12-04-2006, 21:53
Petrol in 'owning car with rust' shocker:eek:

Another shock headline then '' Petrols S14 goes out in March'' :p

Aitch
12-04-2006, 21:56
Another shock headline then '' Petrols S14 goes out in March'' :p
In the wet :eek:
Or was that February's trip out? :wack:

SM
12-04-2006, 22:08
Pete went out in the nearly dry, and had a days fun - followed by 2 days of salt removal before going back under its blanket :ghey:
I'm sure Petes S13 willl soon be less rusty, I already know what parts he plans to remove clean and fix and replace, it will look like his old one quicker than you might imagine, ie not next year with the pace of most of us :wack:

Ivor
12-04-2006, 22:20
hope it works out for you, that s13 is very nice :cool: . the rust will take some work but im sure it'll be worth it. :nod:

MattyGee
12-04-2006, 22:46
That lucky s13 :D

Pete C
13-04-2006, 00:10
One nice clean tailgate :thumbs:

Probably been repaired/replaced before, note how the "NISSAN" decal is missing from the left hand side...

Nice car Pete, keep the pics coming once the rust has been sorted :)

ferretca18
13-04-2006, 16:05
looking good mate! just out or interest how are you going to replace the bit by the suspension turret, just cut it out, cut a template and weld a new bit in? i gotta do that to mine soon on an engine out and respray weekend:):thumbs:

Tenman
13-04-2006, 16:31
good stuff Pete... let me practise on my Italian scrabble then I can come and help you weld it

Petrol
13-04-2006, 19:34
looking good mate! just out or interest how are you going to replace the bit by the suspension turret, just cut it out, cut a template and weld a new bit in? i gotta do that to mine soon on an engine out and respray weekend:):thumbs:

Basically yes but I bet it's not as bad as it looks when I get the wire brush on it.

Hey Paul I might hold you to that, I have just bought a MIG welder but haven't welded for some time :wack: I have also bought a shotblasting gun. Thought I would try it on a rusty strut. Car should weigh about 900Kg when I have finished :D

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/sandblast.jpg

This engine rattle is doing my head in though. Would have been nice to sort that before I start on the bodywork.

SM
13-04-2006, 20:11
I think you should shot blast the whole car, so it looks silver, then I'll just swap one night .....

Petrol
14-04-2006, 19:05
Since the big ends are knacked :smash: I have decided to start stripping the car down. Took the interior out and cleaned the seats with soap powder and a sponge, left it for an hour and hosed them down. I have done this to loads of old car interiors without a problem.

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/008.jpg

This is what came out of the rear seat

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/009.jpg

Seats are almost dry and now look like this

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/008a.jpg



Remote alarm needs tidying up

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/010.jpg

Tailgate is original and in superb condition - No filler :eek: Just some slight surface rust around the holes. This is the worst


http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/012.jpg

Inside the tailgate is rust free :cool:

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/011.jpg

More than can be said for the spoiler

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/014.jpg

Floorpan & inner sills are in superb condition

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/15.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/016.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/017.jpg

I need...

S13 carpet
Rust free spoiler (am I dreaming :wack: )
Drivers window switch assembly
Radio CD player
Interior mirror
Sunroof seal

Next job will be strip the engine bay

Chem200
14-04-2006, 19:18
Petrol:notworthy I'll be intrested to see the end result.

Draven
14-04-2006, 19:36
well i washed and claybar'ed and washed again my car today (and then polished it and it looks sh1t cos i need some swirl remover :rolleyes: )

not quite on a par with what you've been up to though :eek:

once again serious hardcore cleaning going on :notworthy

how come you need a new carpet? too fecked?

*edit*
i imagine you will be hard pushed to find a "mint" condition spoiler considering yours looks like that and your boot hasnt taken hold yet and looking at the average s13 tailgate
i'd say your best bet will probably be someone bringing one over from japan if you are going for totally standard looks or even my favourite a genuine 180sx type X spoiler :thumbs:

Petrol
14-04-2006, 19:48
well i washed and claybar'ed and washed again my car today (and then polished it and it looks sh1t cos i need some swirl remover :rolleyes: )

not quite on a par with what you've been up to though :eek:

once again serious hardcore cleaning going on :notworthy

how come you need a new carpet? too fecked?

*edit*
i imagine you will be hard pushed to find a "mint" condition spoiler considering yours looks like that and your boot hasnt taken hold yet and looking at the average s13 tailgate
i'd say your best bet will probably be someone bringing one over from japan if you are going for totally standard looks or even my favourite a genuine 180sx type X spoiler :thumbs:

Try some Zymol from Hellfrauds, it's good for removing swirl marks. Carpet is too fecked, it's got holes in it :( As for the spoiler I am pretty sure I will have to fit an aftermarket one. S14 spolier could be an option I suppose.

Richy_Boy
14-04-2006, 19:48
Top work feller!

Rich

stumitch
14-04-2006, 21:20
S14 spolier could be an option I suppose.

I have a S14 rear spoiler mate you can make me an offer on (cheapy cheap to you)

unipsycho
14-04-2006, 21:26
looking good :thumbs:

John Bennett
14-04-2006, 22:33
That does look a rather tidy example, even considering the rust :cool: .

I wish I liked red cars, as I've seen quite a few very tidy red S13's for sale :rolleyes: .

Hope the rebuild goes well :)

edit: sad as it might sound, that's a rather tidy bit of welding on that rear sill (wish I was that good :o )

alanjuggler
14-04-2006, 22:53
if i hadnt mauled mine getting it out, you could have had my old s13 carpet FOC, it wasnt in bad condition, i was just too lazy to clean it. S14 carpet is pretty much nearly the same, just a few bits that need pushing in. (i now have s14 carpet. slightly darker, looks much better.)

to be honest - even with the minimal rust you've found, a bit of grinding down the welds and repainting, it'll look spot on. (a lot better than mine :wack: )

if you need some suspension while you're reconning yours - i have a set of standard s13 stuff lying about if you need it.

Petrol
16-04-2006, 22:03
Not done much today other than clean under the engine bay but is this the oil return from the turbo? Has this been butchered or is this stock? Looks naff to me :nod:

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/oil%20return.jpg

Thanks :thumbs:

muttley
16-04-2006, 22:05
Thats stock mate, allows for flex IIRC..

Jim
16-04-2006, 22:06
Stock, assuming my first s13s wasnt also butchered :)

You are right though it is naff ;)

Aitch
16-04-2006, 22:07
Since the big ends are knacked :smash: I have decided to start stripping the car down. Took the interior out and cleaned the seats with soap powder and a sponge, left it for an hour and hosed them down. I have done this to loads of old car interiors without a problem.

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/008.jpg

Seats are almost dry and now look like this

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/008a.jpg
I thinl I'll hve to bring my MR2 seats up to you for the Petrol treatment :D

muttley
16-04-2006, 22:09
Hay mate I have a GOOD carpet available if you want PM me an offer, as your local cheap as chips :thumbs:

Petrol
16-04-2006, 22:37
Hay mate I have a GOOD carpet available if you want PM me an offer, as your local cheap as chips :thumbs:
How good? I think it's fair to say I have lost the plot and this has been well documented on here but if the carpet is in A1 condition then I will PM you an offer :thumbs:

Actual_Ben_Taylor
16-04-2006, 22:38
S14 carpet will fit and should be easier to get a nice one

muttley
16-04-2006, 22:39
How good? I think it's fair to say I have lost the plot and this has been well documented on here but if the carpet is in A1 condition then I will PM you an offer :thumbs:
I would say that it's A!, PM me your email and I'll send you some pics so you can decide :thumbs:

Petrol
16-04-2006, 22:51
S14 carpet will fit and should be easier to get a nice one
Ben you are wrong, Sorry they don't fit properly... been there, done that with my last S13 :p I fitted or should I say tried to fit an S14 carpet.... Ended up fitting another S13 carpet ;)

Petrol
17-04-2006, 21:39
Petrol in 'owning car with rust' shocker:eek:



It's just got a whole lot worse :eek:

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/018.jpg

I will sort it though :nod:

SM
17-04-2006, 21:46
Bloody Hell Pete - Thats some serious stripping - I'll bob round for a look in the week :D

muttley
17-04-2006, 21:47
We could start something here, as in who's got more rust me or you..:D :wack:
Tho my big ends are ok :p

Petrol
17-04-2006, 21:57
Bloody Hell Pete - Thats some serious stripping - I'll bob round for a look in the week :D
Engine is still in Kev and still have the bottom end to sort, though the front bumper, IC washer botlle and more has been removed :D

Sideways Danny
17-04-2006, 22:18
It's just got a whole lot worse :eek:

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/018.jpg

I will sort it though :nod:


that's probably the mpost common rust area on an s13, and to be honest that's really not as bad as some

Petrol
20-04-2006, 18:17
Just about finished stripping the front end down.

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/26.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/27.jpg

Big ends are on back order at Nissan, I wonder why :rolleyes: Should be easy to fit though :D

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/28.jpg


Now it's stripped I can start sorting everything out :)

ferretca18
20-04-2006, 18:30
blimey you dont hang about, i really need to get my ass into gear and get my engine out, sort the rust and spray the bay black:):thumbs:

Vez
20-04-2006, 20:56
My car is due at yours in 10 days or so time (with a shed load more power and you on the insurance) and I have an S14 rear wing for you too ;)

Make room :smash: :D

Petrol
20-04-2006, 21:31
My car is due at yours in 10 days or so time (with a shed load more power and you on the insurance) and I have an S14 rear wing for you too ;)

Make room :smash: :D
Is there a big list of jobs to do? If so I will prepare a big list of parts I need :D
:notworthy with the rear wing. Don't worry about space, It's not a problem

SM
20-04-2006, 23:40
Shall I just take the box you have here straight to Petes as well then Vez?

Sideways Danny
21-04-2006, 00:23
don't bother with Nissan bearings, use ACL

Vez
21-04-2006, 20:54
Is there a big list of jobs to do? If so I will prepare a big list of parts I need :D
:notworthy with the rear wing. Don't worry about space, It's not a problem

Well you already know what im like sourcing part, give me a list :smash:

Vez
21-04-2006, 20:55
Shall I just take the box you have here straight to Petes as well then Vez?

Not sure if hes ready for "those" bits, maybe I should ask ;)

Fancy removing my sideskirts and front bumper ;)

Petrol
21-04-2006, 21:10
Not sure if hes ready for "those" bits, maybe I should ask ;)

Fancy removing my sideskirts and front bumper ;)

Front bumper is no problemo ;) Sideskirts on the other hand are not easy to remove without breaking the plastic clips... that's if they are going back on....

Vez
21-04-2006, 21:18
And replacing them with "other" parts ;)

Rude Dog
21-04-2006, 22:19
Thats impressive :nod:

CarlNissan
22-04-2006, 07:50
need...

S13 carpet -i have one for sale
Drivers window switch assembly- i have one
Radio CD player- i have a minidisc for sale
Interior mirror- i have one


if you want them pm me and we can sort something out

archenemy.co.uk
22-04-2006, 08:37
Front bumper is no problemo ;) Sideskirts on the other hand are not easy to remove without breaking the plastic clips... that's if they are going back on....

I've taken mine off a fair few times, no broken clips :confused:

Just undo the screws hold the skirt at the bottom and give it a pull :)

Petrol
22-04-2006, 21:06
Started stripping the front suspension & subframe down

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/29.jpg

A few fettled bits primed and ready for paint:D

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/30.jpg

I hope I know where all the bits go when it's re assembly time :eek:

SM
22-04-2006, 21:34
Why have you bothered prepping the catch tank holder, just remove it :p

I knew you would really sort the car Pete, I'd say I know you reasonably well.
I didnt expect that though :wack:
You nutter, congrats :thumbs:

Petrol
22-04-2006, 22:09
S13 will be stock when it's finished ;)

climbers_uk
22-04-2006, 22:37
Bloody hell!! How long have you had the car, and how long has this taken you?? And that front cross member, you think thats bad??????? Ask Paul Roscoe about mine!! It snapped on me a week ago, had to take it up to his for some emergency work!!

SM
22-04-2006, 22:46
I think he has had it 12 days now :wack:

Pete C
22-04-2006, 23:00
Pete - you're a nutter, but when the car is finished I'm sure we'll all be extremely impressed :thumbs:

Aitch
22-04-2006, 23:04
I think he has had it 12 days now :wack:
That is either
a) Impressive and shows massive commitment and a huge passion for cars

or

b) Highlights someone with far too much time on their hands

:wack:

Paul200sx
22-04-2006, 23:20
you really dont mess around!!

SM
23-04-2006, 08:22
That is either
a) Impressive and shows massive commitment and a huge passion for cars
or
b) Highlights someone with far too much time on their hands
I'll go for
c) all of the above + analness about things being "right" + spent 7 months looking for the perfect car before just buying one that looked close and having the resolve to make it perfect.

Scougar
23-04-2006, 08:32
In my opinion you know someone just loves the car for what it is when they restore it to standard. :notworthy

Keep it up! :thumbs:

Matt

Vez
23-04-2006, 08:41
Pah, it wont be standard, it will have an S14 wing :smash: :p

T0MMy
23-04-2006, 10:23
It won't be standard because it won't be rusty:no:

Mark
23-04-2006, 11:09
Pete you have a serious medical condition, you seem unable to buy a car and just drive the fooker :wack:

I do hope this isnt going to be another garden gnome :(

SM
23-04-2006, 12:14
I do hope this isnt going to be another garden gnome :(
I did try to tell him to leave it imperfect :rolleyes: so he would actually use it :smash:

Tenman
23-04-2006, 12:24
damn... next time I'm back in Blackburn I'm gonna bob round and see this.. :d

Petrol
23-04-2006, 21:45
Pete you have a serious medical condition, you seem unable to buy a car and just drive the fooker :wack:

I do hope this isnt going to be another garden gnome :(
I cant drive it when the big ends are out :smash: :smash: :smash: That's s13 ownership for you :D

For those that are interested I have used a combination of wire brush and shotblasting to clean the suspension components up. I have then used a "preclean" which is basically a de greaser before applying a 1K Acid etch primer. This primer gives good adhesion since it etches into the metal.

The gloss coat will be a 2K (paint and hardner) coat that will be tough and durable. Once I have the supension bits finished it's time to start on the shell :D

Front subframe in primer

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/31.jpg

Jim
23-04-2006, 21:54
I cant drive it when the big ends are out :smash: :smash: :smash: That's s13 ownership for you :D


Nah i think you will find that's the same with every type of non rotary car engine ;)

GPS_S13
23-04-2006, 22:25
some proper work going into that car pete,very good work

Petrol
27-04-2006, 14:59
First bits in gloss :)

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/32.jpg

This is the best way I have found to paint bolts

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/33.jpg

SM
27-04-2006, 15:04
LMAO @ the painted bolts :smash:

b14ck
27-04-2006, 15:08
have you painted your nuts aswell :p

Mark
27-04-2006, 15:34
Pete can you explain how you are going to do the bolts up without removing any paint from the heads please :confused:




:wack: :smash: :smash: :smash:

Petrol
27-04-2006, 15:53
If you put a very thin layer of paint on, more like a dust coat then it doesn't tend to chip as easily.

Petrol
27-04-2006, 22:49
PAS pipes were not easy to clean up :smash: Plastic coating had peeled off and they were a bit corroded. 40's grade wet and dry sorted it though:)
http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/34.jpg

Front subframe has been shotblasted, painted and is ready to fit :thumbs:
http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/35.jpg

SM
27-04-2006, 22:52
You have too much time, if you dont drive this car when its back together I will give you so much abuse...... !!!

Aitch
27-04-2006, 22:54
You have too much time, if you dont drive this car when its back together I will give you so much abuse...... !!!
I hope you've got a back catalogue of insults all lined up then :wack:

Cracking work Pete :thumbs:

climbers_uk
27-04-2006, 22:57
MADNESS!!! Wish I could afford the time, and money and effort and knew what I was doing enough to do this!

Barryjdart
28-04-2006, 06:30
MADNESS!!! Wish I could afford the time, and money and effort and knew what I was doing enough to do this!
I wish I had all of the above plus the space and facilities as well. Pain working on the car out in the open with the weather we get in the UK.

SM
28-04-2006, 07:25
Pete's doing that all on his drive, no cover, garage ect.

T0MMy
28-04-2006, 07:34
I just wish I had a drive, I have to carry trolley jack, axle stands and all my tools plus bottles of fluid etc. 300m up the road when I work on my car:rolleyes:

mattkeeber
28-04-2006, 07:42
Absolutly :notworthy

About all i can say.. good luck and i cant wait for the thread to continue!

SM
28-04-2006, 07:45
I cant wait for him to finish, Pete can then crack on with Vez's, then help me with my BE's too before Spa :D We'll keep him busy :wack:

George
28-04-2006, 08:11
I just did all that to my car last summer, but even after 1 winter on the roads i can see little spots of rust on some of the suspension arms. I didn't use underseal as I thought it all looked quite good. I'm going to take it all to bits again and try powder coating this time to see if it lasts better.

Of course if I stored the car indoors and only took it out in sunny conditions with gravel free roads it would probably help.

Barryjdart
28-04-2006, 08:19
Pete's doing that all on his drive, no cover, garage ect.

:eek: :clap: He must get better weather where he lives then. Virtually every weekend it rains here.:cry:

Petrol
28-04-2006, 18:29
I just did all that to my car last summer, but even after 1 winter on the roads i can see little spots of rust on some of the suspension arms. I didn't use underseal as I thought it all looked quite good. I'm going to take it all to bits again and try powder coating this time to see if it lasts better.

Of course if I stored the car indoors and only took it out in sunny conditions with gravel free roads it would probably help.

What sort of paint did you use? Might Waxoyl mine to prevent this happening.

Rust under the seam sealer in a couple of places

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/36.jpg

Cleaned up with wire brush & angle grinder. Then wiped everything down with white spirit. it's amazing how far the rust had travelled behind the seam sealer

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/37.jpg

2 coats of acid etch primer on the bare metal

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/38.jpg

Replaced the seam sealer where I had cut the rust out. Note the masking tape to prevent waxoyl and stonechip getting into the engine bay.

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/39.jpg

gaz f
28-04-2006, 19:43
Can't wait to see the finished article. Keep up the good work :thumbs:

SX Drifting
28-04-2006, 20:47
Pete your mad. But that will be the tidiest S13 in the UK for sure! Fair play to you.

My S13 is in similar condition to what yours was when you started but without the rust on the rear. I think I'm going to have the take my spoiler off and check now just hope it doesnt break cause I don't want to have to replace it right now

SM
28-04-2006, 21:00
I've run out of things to say, but you know I'm watching :nod: and will pop round as soon as I get chance ....

Petrol
28-04-2006, 21:20
Hmmm the S13 spoiler has problems. It has steel plates inside it which are used to fasten it to the tailgate with plastic clips. The problem is that these plates corrode, swell and end up corroding the tailgate. If you look down your spoiler and see ripples then the metal inside it is corroded. If you want some pics of the clips that hold the spoiler on then I will post em up

SX Drifting
28-04-2006, 21:23
If there easy to get at then that would be great :thumbs: I'll check tomorrow. I might be looking for a new spolier soon. Prevention being the best cure and al that:)

Petrol
28-04-2006, 21:36
I've run out of things to say...

How's about "I have a medical condition" :wack: Or "I am mad" :D Maybe lost the plot :eek: ;)

Vez
28-04-2006, 21:41
Your allowed to lose the plot on my car :D

You cant rev it past 6000rpm though, as I need new valve springs, is 350+ bhp okay for the time being ;)

See you Sunday ;)

Gary
28-04-2006, 21:41
Looks like a great project though, and great tip with the seat cleaning as my AW11 seats will seriously need it. :thumbs:

Petrol
28-04-2006, 22:19
Your allowed to lose the plot on my car :D

You cant rev it past 6000rpm though, as I need new valve springs, is 350+ bhp okay for the time being ;)

See you Sunday ;)

Loads of space on the drive for your car now :) My S14 has gone ;)
As for the rev limit...:ghey: :D

Vez
29-04-2006, 05:06
It'll get sorted :p

Alex l
29-04-2006, 10:06
So how much would this cost me if i purchased an S13, then dropped it up to you??:D

Jim
29-04-2006, 10:27
Heh, probably more than the book price new of an s13 :D

I think it can be said that this is being done "for the love" ;)

Alex l
29-04-2006, 10:32
Heh, probably more than the book price new of an s13 :D

I think it can be said that this is being done "for the love" ;)

If i knew what to do i'd love to be able to do something like this, theres a guy on DW who did the same with a TVR
http://www.griffith.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

Petrol
29-04-2006, 19:45
I think it can be said that this is being done "for the love" ;)
:nod:

That TVR looks cool - proper job, thanks for posting the link :)

This is one of the clips that holds the rear spoiler on :eek:

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/40.jpg


Cleaned up battery tray and inner wing

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/41.jpg

N/S inner wing

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/42.jpg

Front cross member almost done

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/43.jpg

This took some cleaning up :( again front cross member

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/44.jpg

Pic from below

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/45.jpg


Stonechip under the front arches

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/46.jpg


Stonechip on front cross member

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/47.jpg

This sort of refurb is not as difficult as you might think if you are handy with the spanners. It really is only a matter of unbolting everything, wire brushing and angle grinding to get rid of the rust and painting. As far as painting goes the key is to use a pre clean before spraying the primer on. This degreases and ensures the primer adheres well. It’s available from a body shop supplier. Suspension components could be brush painted with Hammerite smooth. It does take time and patience however.

james anderson
29-04-2006, 19:49
looking good mate :thumbs:

beetie
29-04-2006, 20:26
do you use one of those knotted wire wheels on the angle grinder like the tvr guy said he used. as i would like to do my s14a soon.

thanks,
martin

Petrol
29-04-2006, 20:32
do you use one of those knotted wire wheels on the angle grinder like the tvr guy said he used. as i would like to do my s14a soon.

thanks,
martin
Nope - my mate has borrowed it :whip:

beetie
29-04-2006, 20:43
so what else do you use on the angle grinder?

Petrol
29-04-2006, 20:47
so what else do you use on the angle grinder?
Just a wire brush in a drill - or should I say several wire brushes :(

Petrol
30-04-2006, 22:55
Stripped the hubs down today but I need your help :notworthy
What colour should I paint the calipers? I intend to fit 5 spoke 17" rims to the car so the calipers will be visible.
Get some pics posted of ideas :thumbs:

Nismo Pete
30-04-2006, 23:01
Black:nod:
I like the subtle approach:nod:

SM
01-05-2006, 06:17
Red to match the car :nod:

(or beige, to look like spagetti, and be slightly Italian :p )

Barryjdart
01-05-2006, 07:15
Red to match the car :nod:



Agreed.

Vez
01-05-2006, 08:40
Its looking awsome, this man is dedicated (or is this care in the community in action :wack: ).

Dave_S
01-05-2006, 09:14
Coming along nicely :cool:

Dave

climbers_uk
01-05-2006, 09:16
Another vote for red!
In a moment of insanity I did mine in yellow. And am now just waiting for the time and weather to re-paint the red!!
What would the going rate be for the petrol effect on an S13 then? lol

skyshack
01-05-2006, 17:48
I'm going to take it all to bits again and try powder coating this time to see if it lasts better..Is that a plastic that melts on to hot metal? If it gets a split or chip the water gets under it, lifts it off the metal and rots everything away out of sight under the plastic coating.

Petrol is right a coat of Hammerite smooth (black - let Bigtone use the red paint on his undercarriage).

Petrol
01-05-2006, 22:16
S14 spoiler

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/49.jpg


This is a good tip.... If you need mark out extra holes why not use playdoh :D

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/50.jpg

climbers_uk
01-05-2006, 22:29
Have you got the spoiler sitting flush in the corners? Me and Paul Roscoe have sorted my boot out (although needs touching up again), but looking at the spoiler it doesnt look like it will line up nicely in the corners due to the shape of the boot lid. I am not explaining this very well am I?
What I mean is the bootlid is flat ish. But the spoiler isnt. Now the supports where the 3 bolts are on either side look problematic too me, in my 2 minutes of knowledge. Does the edge of these need shaving down to get the supports to fit flush?
(Have had a long and tiring weekend in the lakes, so not able to type things as I am seeing them typed in my head!)

Petrol
01-05-2006, 22:39
I know what you mean :) This is the problem ;)

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/51.jpg

I am thinking how to sort this :nod:

climbers_uk
01-05-2006, 22:43
Cool I made sense then!! Paul reckons fibreglassing up the left side of that picture, have seen other people cutting down the right hand side a bit, I will wait and see what you come up with too!! I still want u to take my car for a few weeks to clean up hahahahaa

Petrol
01-05-2006, 23:01
I still want u to take my car for a few weeks to clean up hahahahaa

I can't cope with another :no: My drive is full of 200 SX's needing work :(

climbers_uk
01-05-2006, 23:06
Twas worth a try!

Petrol
01-05-2006, 23:12
Pop over for a brew ;)

millermilla
01-05-2006, 23:12
Fantastic work :thumbs:

Petrol
01-05-2006, 23:36
http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/51.jpg


Hmmmm could I fill this with Sikoflex? Or is the gap too big?

climbers_uk
02-05-2006, 08:37
If I remember rightly it would probably need a fair old bit of sikoflex, to fill the gap. Is it secure like that? That isnt a sarcastic question or anything, its genuine. I havent actualy drilled the holes and tried yet.

Alex l
02-05-2006, 09:37
Not sure iirc but i'm sure that Shin Inoue's (sp) from Pro-Specs Skyline has higher Nismo spoiler ars/stands, that are about 1-3"s bigger than the standard ones??

Petrol
02-05-2006, 18:51
Is it secure like that?
It's bolted on but it won't sit flush to the tailgate because it hits the rear wings. I have had to space it off :(

climbers_uk
02-05-2006, 18:57
It's bolted on but it won't sit flush to the tailgate because it hits the rear wings. I have had to space it off :(
Thats what i was trying to say when i was typing gibberish yesterday.:wack:
I have seen someone else do this before, and they filed a fair bit off the part that hits the wing to lower the whole lot down a bit. I cant remember who it was now, will have a search and see if i can dig up the thred.
Still it looks better than the s13 spoiler doesnt it???

Deacon
02-05-2006, 19:02
why not go totally original.


ive got a lovley s13 stereo here :wack: :D



top work mate :thumbs:

climbers_uk
02-05-2006, 19:25
Spent ages looking for the thread, http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=82789
But the pics dont seem to be working :( :cry:

Vez
02-05-2006, 20:07
That spoiler looks the nuts ;)

Id, look to file one edge to clear the boot slightly, then build up the inside edge with fibreglass over a decent peice of cut to shape seasoned and sealed hardwood :nod:

climbers_uk
02-05-2006, 20:08
That spoiler looks the nuts ;)

Id, look to file one edge to clear the boot slightly, then build up the inside edge with fibreglass over a decent peice of cut to shape seasoned and sealed hardwood :nod:

Sounds like a plan!

Petrol
02-05-2006, 21:19
Last update for a while as I am switching to project No2 tomorrow :D

Sprayed chassis legs, cross member and battery tray.

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/52.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/53.jpg

At least things are going back together now :)

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/54.jpg

Thanks to sideways danny for his help on this one :thumbs:

Oh and all done on the drive

stumitch
02-05-2006, 22:14
Top job mate :nod:

Petrol
05-05-2006, 20:36
New big ends in, pick up pipe on, new oil return hose pushed over the downpipe. Tip - tighten the jubilee clips in stages, if you try to tighten them in one go it might not seal properly. The clip bites into the hose and after an hour or so it's easy to nip them up.

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/55.jpg

Sealant on sump. The rubber seals also need gasket goo on but didn't have time to take pics :(

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/56.jpg

Fitting front subframe, note the Waxoyl to prevent corrosion and water getting in

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/57.jpg

Exposed threads and nuts touched up with Waxoyl

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/58.jpg

Still loads to do but before.........

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/60.jpg


after

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/59.jpg


Must cut that drive belt off it's annoying me :wack:


Edit - thought it might be an idea to post this pic. it's the markings on the crank for the bearing sizes

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/61.jpg

SM
05-05-2006, 20:47
Looks great, hopefully get to see it tomorrow :D

Smart-Tech
06-05-2006, 06:41
Really is looking good Pete. If you ever need trims removing give me a shout. I have a few specialist Snap on tools just for the job. :thumbs:

Petrol
06-05-2006, 21:13
Really is looking good Pete. If you ever need trims removing give me a shout. I have a few specialist Snap on tools just for the job. :thumbs:

Thanks :thumbs:


Help!

Dismantled the Drivers side brakes today. There are 2 “pistons” for the sliding caliper. One has 2 flats on and the other has a rubber sleeve on it. Which one goes where?

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/62.jpg

SM
06-05-2006, 21:15
Looks great, hopefully get to see it tomorrow :D
I did, and it looks better than the pics :eek: :thumbs:

bigtone
07-05-2006, 10:01
this is looking good pete....top job :thumbs:

Petrol
07-05-2006, 20:12
this is looking good pete....top job :thumbs:

To be honest I wasn’t going to strip the subframe & suspension down and re furb it….. But this pic you sent me gave me the inspiration :nod:

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/tone.jpg

Best thing you could have done :thumbs: :D ;)

Parker
07-05-2006, 20:32
:notworthy

Only just found time to read this thread and I'm ashamed with my car now. I was under it today looking at the rust and wishing I had enough time and skill to sort it all out :(

climbers_uk
07-05-2006, 21:10
:notworthy

Only just found time to read this thread and I'm ashamed with my car now. I was under it today looking at the rust and wishing I had enough time and skill to sort it all out :(


Arent we all, and dont we all lol :wack:

Petrol
08-05-2006, 20:23
Decided to fill the gap in the spoiler with fiberfil. It's a fiberglass resin with chopped strands in it, you just add hardener.

I masked the hatch up with paper and fitted the spoiler with the spacing nuts in place. Then I filled the gap

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/63.jpg


Hatch upright showing spoiler overhang and gap filled

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/64.jpg

Removed spoiler and a bit of a clean up. I will probably make a rubber gasket to seal it

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/65.jpg

Just needs some stopper and smoothing over before painting.

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/66.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/67.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/68.jpg

Petrol
08-05-2006, 21:09
Can I remove the ABS sensor from the hub? Can't find much info on it :( Looks like it's held in with a 10mm bolt to me but the "plug" looks bonded in :confused:

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/69.jpg

Paul200sx
08-05-2006, 21:21
your paint bill must be massive!!

good work all the same!

SM
08-05-2006, 21:24
your paint bill must be massive!!
You'd be surprised ;)
There could be something interesting that way at the end of this thread :nod:

Jim
08-05-2006, 21:27
You'd be surprised ;)
There could be something interesting that way at the end of this thread :nod:
He used crayons rather than spray paint? :wack: as a result, he will never have to wax the car again :p

thenickos
08-05-2006, 21:31
i spot a pc side panel..... now i know what to use my old one for. makeshift part spraying booth.

Petrol
08-05-2006, 21:54
He used crayons rather than spray paint? :wack: as a result, he will never have to wax the car again :p
Hmmm crayons!!! good point Jim :nod: Cheapie cheap fiberglass mould release agent :thumbs: :D

Pete C
08-05-2006, 22:44
Can I remove the ABS sensor from the hub? Can't find much info on it :( Looks like it's held in with a 10mm bolt to me but the "plug" looks bonded in :confused:

They're "supposed" to come out, but normally you end up destroying them. If you have ABS problems then it's better to buy a whole hub from a breaker with working ABS :nod:

Still looking good Pete, bet it won't look quite so nice after it's been through a few puddles though!

Petrol
08-05-2006, 23:12
They're "supposed" to come out, but normally you end up destroying them.

Thanks so much for the info :nod: Glad I left them in :)

b14ck
08-05-2006, 23:47
yep they are a proper biatch to get out and 90% of the time you'd destroy them trying.
the car looks excellent so far,more pics plz :nod:

Richy_Boy
09-05-2006, 07:15
:nod: I bent the arse off my rear diff one on my old S13 when replacing it :(

Rich

Petrol
09-05-2006, 19:47
more pics plz :nod:

Sorted the hatch out today and took plenty.

The hatch has hammer rash on it. Looks like the spoiler has dented it and also stretched it on the mounting points

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/70.jpg

Ground & wire brushed rust out. I don’t tend to use much pressure with the angle grinder as it can overheat the panel and buckle. Beware of sparks on the glass – it can mark it

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/71.jpg

Time to prepare to fill the holes. I decided to use fibreglass rather than welding since I would have probably buckled the hatch. I removed the wax protection from underneath with pre clean and roughed up the surface to provide a key

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/72.jpg

This is the chopped matting & resin stuff

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/73.jpg

You can see the strands in this pic

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/74.jpg


Fiberglass applied inside the hatch

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/75.jpg

Temporary bolts in place to ensure the spoiler nuts fit flush to the metal.

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/76.jpg

Holes filled slightly proud

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/77.jpg
Sanded flush

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/78.jpg

Skim of filler to fill the hammer rash

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/79.jpg

Primed. I will leave this a few days because the filler will shrink and cause "mapping" - Lines around the filler

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/80.jpg

Pic of spacer made for the spoiler

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/81.jpg

gaz f
09-05-2006, 20:39
Mate, you have far too much time on your hands!

Good work so far, although I think it would have been better to weld the holes in the tailgate, to stop the metal from distorting you can just spot weld in the plates, dabbing with a wet cloth as you go to keep the metal cool.:thumbs:

stumitch
09-05-2006, 21:34
Mate, you have far too much time on your hands!

Thats what i was thinking, i hardly have time to fit stuff whilst i'm at home :cry: but top job pete :thumbs:

Petrol
09-05-2006, 22:20
I appreciate I have too much time on my hands, that’s why I started this project. Maybe I should explain. My mega boring job leaves me with quite a lot of spare time but my working day is fragmented….. An hour here, an hour there, which leaves me a few hours in the day to do something. I thought this project was a good way to fill my time. To be honest I could have gone out and bought a brand new S2000 or a 350Z but where's the fun in that?
I have rebuilt loads of cars in the past and though that this was a good way to fill my time and hopefully pass on some of my experience to other SXOC members ;)

stumitch
09-05-2006, 22:31
Your certainly doing that pete and your keeping me entertained whilst at work :)

Petrol
09-05-2006, 22:43
your keeping me entertained whilst at work :)
Get some work done :p

Aitch
09-05-2006, 23:32
bet it won't look quite so nice after it's been through a few puddles though!
I'd be surprised if it ever sees a puddle, never mind drives through one :wack:

superbad
10-05-2006, 11:48
What puddles like this one?

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/8681/bigpuddle0qv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Petrol
10-05-2006, 21:38
What puddles like this one?

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/8681/bigpuddle0qv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


:D :D :D

There was this "other" puddle that caused a few problems :wack:

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/82.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/83.jpg

:D ;)

Petrol
10-05-2006, 23:00
And finally.....Just to rub it in :D

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/84.jpg

;)

Pete C
10-05-2006, 23:16
Tailgate looks good so far Pete :thumbs:

A word of warning though, a friend who is a (very good) panel beater by trade filled the holes in the tailgate of my old S13 using exactly the same method - after a few months it started to crack round the edges of the holes until you could see the outlines of the holes in the paint :(

Petrol
10-05-2006, 23:28
Tailgate looks good so far Pete :thumbs:

A word of warning though, a friend who is a (very good) panel beater by trade filled the holes in the tailgate of my old S13 using exactly the same method - after a few months it started to crack round the edges of the holes until you could see the outlines of the holes in the paint :(
Thanks for the info :nod: Maybe I should have welded the holes up after all :o

Pete C
11-05-2006, 07:46
Thanks for the info :nod: Maybe I should have welded the holes up after all :o

Well, it's done now, may well be fine :)

It wasn't *all* the holes, only a couple IIRC, it was a long time ago :smash:

Fil
11-05-2006, 09:17
Tailgate looks good so far Pete :thumbs:

A word of warning though, a friend who is a (very good) panel beater by trade filled the holes in the tailgate of my old S13 using exactly the same method - after a few months it started to crack round the edges of the holes until you could see the outlines of the holes in the paint :(

Yep, I did this too, using the chopped fibres in resin stuff (P38 I think??). Even though I sanded the inside & outside areas around the holes to give a good key, it has now cracked to the point where I could probably push the 'plug' out of the hole.

I will be welding mine up when I can be arsed to take the tailgate off again...

Petrol
11-05-2006, 20:28
OK thanks for your help :thumbs: I have sprayed it red now but won't be dissapointed if it cracks :D

Petrol
11-05-2006, 21:45
Hatch is now red again but how long it will last I am not so sure.

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/86.jpg

Turned over the engine on the starter motor with the fuel pump fuse pulled and the plugs out to reduce any stress on the new big end bearings. Got oil pressure :thumbs: Also fitted new cambelt.

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/87.jpg

The old....

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/88.jpg


The re-furbed

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/89.jpg

Red to match the car - thanks Barry :thumbs:

Every component is being stripped and fettled....
Brake hose clips & Pas rubber mounting sleeve in primer, ARB, bracket for the front brake pipes and Pas connector bracket in gloss

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/90.jpg

SM
11-05-2006, 21:47
To be honest I could have gone out and bought a brand new S2000 or a 350Z but where's the fun in that?


Still run out of things to say, so I'll quote you instead.




:D

b14ck
11-05-2006, 22:28
how'd you paint the tailgate?

Petrol
11-05-2006, 22:38
In what respect? I just flatted it back and sprayed it :confused:

Kouki Mad
11-05-2006, 22:41
In what respect? I just flatted it back and sprayed it :confused:

I think he meant 2pac, cellulose from a compressor or an aerosol.

I hope to god you've not used cellulose, that stuff is depressing. Why did people design a paint that only lasts 3 months :annoyed:

The work you've put into that s13 is unbelievable. I'm hopefully giving mine a spruce over summer, but doubt it'll be anywhere near the amount you've done!

Edit, looked at the shine, thats 2pac.

stumitch
11-05-2006, 22:42
with a can ???

Petrol
11-05-2006, 22:47
Edit, looked at the shine, thats 2pac.
;)

b14ck
11-05-2006, 22:57
yeah i didn't know you'd access to a spray oven ... way to go :thumbs: looks damned fine

Petrol
11-05-2006, 23:09
yeah i didn't know you'd access to a spray oven ... way to go :thumbs: looks damned fine
To be honest ..... I don't :( To be more honest.... I am struggling painting :nod: I am doing everthing on my drive and it's not easy :(

stumitch
11-05-2006, 23:13
To be honest ..... I don't :( To be more honest.... I am struggling painting :nod: I am doing everthing on my drive and it's not easy :(

If i tried this on my drive it would look like my drive :wack:

b14ck
11-05-2006, 23:19
you've been very lucky with the weather then if your doing it outside :nod: how much scandinavian pollen got captured in the paint before it dried :p my cars covered in the stuff :rolleyes:

Petrol
11-05-2006, 23:25
you've been very lucky with the weather then if your doing it outside :nod: how much scandinavian pollen got captured in the pant before it dried :p my cars covered in the stuff :rolleyes:
Spoiler had a good finish on it until the flies landed :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: Got to do it all over again :nod:

Pete C
11-05-2006, 23:28
You're a talented man Pete - that paint looks better than some spray jobs I've seen come out of proper bodyshops!

Petrol
12-05-2006, 18:43
Removed the wing and ground out the spot welds on the turret brace

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/91.jpg

Cardboard template for new plate


http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/92.jpg



You're a talented man Pete.......

Not talented when it comes to welding :no: This is the first time I have ever welded :wack:



http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/93.jpg


Needs more seam sealer to hide the snotty welding :eek:


http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/94.jpg

At least the rust has gone.

Other side wasn't as bad so I lifted the plate and cleaned it up.

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/95.jpg

SM
12-05-2006, 18:46
Excellent first time welding attempts :eek: :notworthy

Petrol
12-05-2006, 20:04
I keep looking at the rust on the IC brackets
http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/96.jpg

I didn’t have any boost leaks before I stripped it so the IC is OK. The pressed metal surround is fooked though. It’s foam lined and I really don’t know how to sort it. Any help or ideas would be great but I don’t want to fit a front mount.


Oh and I still have this to sort :eek:

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/019.jpg

stumitch
12-05-2006, 20:20
your 1st attempt at welding :eek: thats pretty good in my eyes pete :nod: i just hope i'm that good when i attempt it :D

Ivor
12-05-2006, 20:22
looking good pete:nod:

scimmy ben
12-05-2006, 22:34
I keep looking at the rust on the IC brackets

I didn’t have any boost leaks before I stripped it so the IC is OK. The pressed metal surround is fooked though. It’s foam lined and I really don’t know how to sort it. Any help or ideas would be great but I don’t want to fit a front mount.

What about a Norris WMIC?

Petrol
13-05-2006, 18:48
What about a Norris WMIC?
Good idea :thumbs: had a look on their site and it uses the existing mounting brackets :( I have drilled all the bolts out and re tapped them.

Sideways Danny
13-05-2006, 19:32
What about a Norris WMIC?


I think I'd chose one of the ARC one's off ebay:)

Petrol
13-05-2006, 20:21
WMIC surround stripped and foam removed... What an arse of a job :(

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/97.jpg

Fettled up end support ready for primer

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/98.jpg

Almost ready to re assemble, just need to paint the end supports and the 2 brackets


http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/100.jpg

stumitch
13-05-2006, 20:29
You don't do thing in halfs do you pete :)

Petrol
13-05-2006, 20:37
You don't do thing in halfs do you pete :)
:no: :D

I need a shed load of bits though. I could do to find someone breaking an S13 who could stick a load of bits that I need in a box, I could send a cheque and have it collected by a courier :Plug:

SM
13-05-2006, 20:39
Make a list of what you need & post it Pete :nod:

Petrol
13-05-2006, 21:01
Make a list of what you need & post it Pete :nod:
S13 facelift carpet - must be mint
Drivers window switch assembly
Interior mirror
Sunroof seal - might buy a new one
Front wheel arch liners - mine are full of crap that I can't get off
Plastic undertray
10mm bolts - loads :smash:
Electric arieal
Plastic trim clips - loads
It's just bits and bats I need but struggling with the 10mm bolts at the moment :(

Paul FWx
13-05-2006, 21:09
Was gonna say, ill shortly be taking my WMIC off and replacing it wit ha front mount so youd have been welcome to that if you were having problems with the IC brackets..

Great job so far though

stumitch
13-05-2006, 21:16
I'll be visiting somebody on monday who might have all or most of these bits

Petrol
13-05-2006, 21:28
I'll be visiting somebody on monday who might have all or most of these bits
:cool: Keep me updated :thumbs:

muttley
13-05-2006, 22:09
Good work there, If you get the chance to come down my way, see what you can get of the shell that I have, before it's scrapped, it has a non leaking sunroof, so maybe the seal might be good for you, got a box of bits, bolts plastic clips and stuff, think the mirror might be there too, IIRC the arch liners are good to go :thumbs:

Petrol
15-05-2006, 17:56
:thumbs: Where abouts in Cheshire are you?
I have sorted the 10mm bolts. Got stainless cap screws.

Cost so far

Paints, sealants, thinners, stonechip etc - £217.60
Parts - B-E Shells, all belts, stat, hose clips, Oil filter etc - £218.00
Wire brushes - £80.75 :wack:

Petrol
16-05-2006, 18:07
Some more pics

BTW the car is not being supported on the chassis leg with the axle stand ;)


http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/102.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/103.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/104.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/105.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/106.jpg

Dave_S
16-05-2006, 19:33
OMG this is fantastic, can't wait to see the pics of the finished thing :smitten:

Dave

S Nap
16-05-2006, 19:41
That looks freakin awsome :thumbs:

I would love to have a go at that, but I dont have the space or a g/f that would let me :cry:

Garrett_T25
16-05-2006, 22:13
Absolutely awesome:notworthy

SM
16-05-2006, 22:16
:indiff:

Anything I say has been said, but you know what I think Pete :thumbs:

Vez
16-05-2006, 22:24
Just needs a concourse respray now ;) (runs)

Fil
17-05-2006, 09:20
Stonechip under the front arches



Good work mate!

What type/ brand of stone chip are you using?

Petrol
17-05-2006, 20:51
Good work mate!

What type/ brand of stone chip are you using?

IMPA but 3M is the best. Not keen on Tetrosyl :down: it’s like a grey not a proper black and tends to flake off. I had a few cans left over from a car I was working on about 5 years ago and got rid of them when I did Vez’s car :thumbs:

Vez
17-05-2006, 21:14
Now you confused me, what you used on my car? :wack:

Petrol
17-05-2006, 21:32
Now you confused me, what you used on my car? :wack:

My jokes don't work on here do they :( Do you really think I would spend 2 days prepping your car only to spray $hite on :no: I have a rough idea how much you have spent on your car :notworthy :notworthy I used the IMPA stonechip on yours :D

Kouki Mad
17-05-2006, 21:38
My jokes don't work on here do they :( Do you really think I would spend 2 days prepping your car only to spray $hite on :no: I have a rough idea how much you have spent on your car :notworthy :notworthy I used the IMPA stonechip on yours :D

Keep trying to dig yourself out of that one mate, no one believes you :thumbs:

muttley
17-05-2006, 22:28
:thumbs: Where abouts in Cheshire are you?
I have sorted the 10mm bolts. Got stainless cap screws.


I live in Winsford it's about 20 mins south of Mascrat's, or 12.5 mins on full boost :D

Petrol
17-05-2006, 22:33
few more pics....Not had a good day though :no:

This must be a first... A refurbed stock IC :ghey:
http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/108.jpg

I have waxoyled every bolt before re fitting

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/109.jpg

Wing mount fitted

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/111.jpg

Pete C
17-05-2006, 22:41
few more pics....Not had a good day though :no:

Why not a good day? Still looking pretty :cool: to me :)

Petrol
17-05-2006, 22:53
Why not a good day? Still looking pretty :cool: to me :)
Started it up and it sounds like it's running on 3 :( Might have a plug prob ;)

fry
17-05-2006, 22:53
When do you want to refurb my car :D

Keep going mate your a star, a mad one though :notworthy

MeLLoN Stu
17-05-2006, 22:54
legend pete :notworthy

fantastic work :nod:


a mad one though :notworthy

pot, kettle, black :nod: :D

Aitch
17-05-2006, 23:29
Wing mount fitted

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/111.jpg
Is that dirt on the wheel arch edge? :eek:

Vez
18-05-2006, 07:58
My jokes don't work on here do they :( Do you really think I would spend 2 days prepping your car only to spray $hite on :no: I have a rough idea how much you have spent on your car :notworthy :notworthy I used the IMPA stonechip on yours :D

lol, I see it now, more smilies needed, I was a little bit drunk last night :wack: You around today, as I will pop over :)

superbad
18-05-2006, 08:08
Is that dirt on the wheel arch edge? :eek:

I think the first wash and polish will have it's own thread :D


Good work Pete, can't wait to drive it ;)

Petrol
18-05-2006, 12:38
Stuck some BCPR6ES plugs in and it's sorted :thumbs: (Thank feck)
Vez yep I'm in
superbad :whip: You have done about 275 miles in it against my 61 :smash: :smash: On yer bike :D :D ;)

gonzomagic
18-05-2006, 12:51
Are you using Black Hammerite on most of the bits and pieces?

Nice Shiny Gloss to it.

Pete C
18-05-2006, 12:52
Stuck some BCPR6ES plugs in and it's sorted :thumbs: (Thank feck)

Cool. Rattle sorted? :)

Petrol
18-05-2006, 13:08
No Synthetic 2k but when it's all waxoled, it will soon look a mess.

Yep B-E rattle has gone :) though both heat shields are gonna have to come off :whip: I will probably stick a decat and Goose on eventually though.

Pete C
18-05-2006, 13:11
I will probably stick a decat and Goose on eventually though.

:thumbs: I like my Goose, nice and subtle :)

Make sure you get an old one though, the new ones are too loud IMO.

Petrol
18-05-2006, 13:23
:thumbs: I like my Goose, nice and subtle :)

Make sure you get an old one though, the new ones are too loud IMO.

I have a twin pipe S13 Goose on my 14a :smitten: I don't like the oval pipes :D

Pete C
18-05-2006, 13:50
I have a twin pipe S13 Goose on my 14a :smitten: I don't like the oval pipes :D

They didn't do an oval pipe one for the S13 AFAIK, but there is a new Blue Flame/Mongoose system that has a 2.75" bore. It still has the twin pipe design but doesn't look quite as nice IMO and it's definitely louder. Probably a better quality exhaust though :)

Petrol
18-05-2006, 17:04
More pics

Stainless cap screws on rad bracket :smitten:

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/112.jpg

Rocker cover

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/113.jpg

N/S suspension

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/114.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/115.jpg

ARB back on

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/116.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/117.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/118.jpg

It's been like this for a Month

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/119.jpg

Back on it's wheels ready to tourque up all the suspension. Check out the arch gap :eek:

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/121.jpg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/122.jpg

Jem
18-05-2006, 17:07
:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

Pete C
18-05-2006, 17:09
That is a big arch gap, what's going on there? If I was asked to guess I'd say it had no engine in it, but it obviously has. I take it's just not moved since it was set down and therefore hasn't settled yet? :)

EDIT: Looks fantastic btw, wish I had the spare time, a drive and the patience :nod:

Petrol
18-05-2006, 17:11
Interior is stripped out :nod: Going to have to compensate by getting a couple of pie eaters in the car whilst I tourque everything up :D

Jem
18-05-2006, 17:12
Going to have to compensate by getting a couple of pie eaters in the car whilst I tourque everything up :D

I'll see you tomorrow then:nod:



:wack:

Petrol
18-05-2006, 17:17
Thanks for the kind comments guys :)

The first job I did was strip the interior - this was the ride height after :( Just shows how heavy it is. Dash is still in BTW.

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/123.jpg

ferretca18
18-05-2006, 17:27
thats it, im gonna do this to mine. i cant stand having it fail on rust on every mot:(

Mr OCD
18-05-2006, 17:37
I have a twin pipe S13 Goose on my 14a :smitten: I don't like the oval pipes :D

:smitten: - same here :thumbs:

Paul200sx
18-05-2006, 17:56
Pete i am very impressed with everything so far! the work you have done is awsome! if you want to sell it give me a shout.

also i have a set of stainless bolts for the rocker covers if you want them? they are the allen key ones so much easier to undo and tighten. just send me your address if you want them and i will get them posted off to you. they will go with your rad ones then.

Paul

Petrol
18-05-2006, 20:16
also i have a set of stainless bolts for the rocker covers if you want them? they are the allen key ones so much easier to undo and tighten. just send me your address if you want them and i will get them posted off to you. they will go with your rad ones then.

Paul

That's very kind of you :thumbs: You have PM :)

pdh 14a
18-05-2006, 21:28
WOW :notworthy That beats my late 14a for condition!lovely car and good work :thumbs:

Petrol
18-05-2006, 22:07
Going to have to compensate by getting a couple of pie eaters in the car whilst I tourque everything up :D


I found a monkey to help me :smitten:














































http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/124.jpg

:wack: :D

Jem
18-05-2006, 22:11
Looks like you've made Sharon's day:D

SM
18-05-2006, 22:18
I found a monkey to help me :smitten:
http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/124.jpg

:wack: :D
:eek: Great Picture :notworthy she'll so slap you if she read that :whip:

Vez
18-05-2006, 22:18
lol you made here sit on towels incase her bum scratched somthing :wack:

Time for a caption competition :D

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/124.jpg

"I wish I got serviced this well"

Petrol
18-05-2006, 22:40
I measured the ride height before I torqued it up :nod:
The job's pukka - My missus won't slap me ;) She's a star :thumbs:

Petrol
19-05-2006, 12:12
Bumper support :eek: :eek:

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/126.jpg


Removed most of the corroded back

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/127.jpg


Making a piece to fit was not easy :(

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/128.jpg


Holes guessed for spot welds. This is the area where it bolts to the car so it needs to be flush. Drilling sheet metal is easier on a block of wood - it doesn't grab :)


http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/129.jpg

Welded through the holes

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/130.jpg

Ground flush

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/131.jpg

Hope thats the last of the severe corrosion :smash: Theres the sills though yet :wack:

Here's where it fits on the bumper

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/132.jpg

Got to do some proper work now :down:

Chem200
19-05-2006, 12:20
Did you do all that work with the car on stands and on your drive? If so :notworthy :notworthy

Cloudy
19-05-2006, 12:23
Got to admire your handy work:clap:

Petrol
19-05-2006, 19:34
Aerial problem :confused:
The aerial connector in the boot is just a typical plug and socket using a single coax cable. The cable runs up through the B pillar and then disappears behind the headlining. This is what I have got behind the console :confused: It's a coax with another smaller coax cable attached. Has this been modded somewhere? I want to connect it to standard radio.
Am I better buying an aerial extension cable and running that?

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S13No2/Pics/125.jpg

Thanks

Zoidman
20-05-2006, 00:11
The thickest coaxialcable is for the electric antenna, the thinner one is for the antenna in the hatch window.

spencer_foxwell
20-05-2006, 07:13
I really don’t know how far to go with this. The plan was to sort the rust, re underseal and generally tidy it up. One thing can lead to another though and I might end up stripping it to the shell and rebuilding everything. I have been looking at shotblasting gear already :eek:
The engine has an unusual rattle. Linky
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=208811

I have spent 2 days trying to find the problem but could really do to sort this before I decide my plan. Here’s some pics of the car and I will update this thread with my progress :)

The good....


And yes that's 3 "Datsuns" on my drive now :D

Why don't you bite the Bullet and go to Norris for an engine then never look back :cool:

Petrol
20-05-2006, 20:25
The thickest coaxialcable is for the electric antenna, the thinner one is for the antenna in the hatch window.
Thanks :thumbs: I guess the stock radio must have had 2 antenna inputs then? Is my best bet to connect both the rear window and aerial connectors together and connect them to my new radio?

Petrol
20-05-2006, 20:59
Why don't you bite the Bullet and go to Norris for an engine then never look back :cool:
Good question :nod:

I thought long and hard about this project before I started. I was really tempted to get the shell blasted and build it up from there. A friend of mine quoted me a grand to spray the bare shell to a “better than factory finish” and that included materials. I was tempted but imagine having that sat on your drive? Where would you go? I decided to try to rebuild it on the “cheap” I really can’t see the point in going mad because at the end of the day these cars are not worth much :down:
I have fitted new big end bearings and the rattle has gone :)
It's easy to buy soloutions in like a Norris engine but to be honest they come at a price. I don't mind spending the time and effort on this car but I really don't want to plough loads of wonga in..... and not get it back if I sell ;)