Boost/Fuel Controllers - "Group Buy" [Archive]

Papa Lazarou

04-02-2002, 00:09

Alrighty then. Who wants one!!

Prices including special delivery to mainland UK are :

Greddy Profec B - £256
http://www.takakaira.com/performance/trust/electriccontrolparts/profecbspec.jpg

Greddy wireless remote scramble switch - £100 (delivery free with Profec)
http://www.takakaira.com/performance/trust/electriccontrolparts/remotecontrol.jpg

Blitz DSBC Spec S - £251

Apexi S-AFC Air Flow Convertor - £251
http://www.takakaira.com/performance/apex/electronics/3.jpg

Can also get limited numbers of Apex ITC's (Ignition Timing Controller) if anyone is interested. Have many of the functions of a full mappable ECU at much less expense. Please e-mail me for details.

http://www.apexi-usa.com/graphics/pImgLeft_electronics_superitc1.jpg http://www.apexi-usa.com/graphics/pImgLeft_electronics_superitc2.jpg

Please note these items are imports. Any questions let me know!

Cheers

Papa

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'94 Nissan Silvia K's (S14)
HKS Hiper exhaust, Apex-i AVC-R Boost Controller, HKS SQV blow off valve, HKS Fuel Cut Defencer, HKS AFR, Blitz LM Spec intake, FGK high flow cat, Trust 80 mm downpipe, HKS spark plugs, non standard suspension...

Awaiting fitting - HKS FMIC, Cusco Reinforced Metal Clutch

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beavertron

04-02-2002, 00:42

oh man - (scrabbling for cash in loose change etc) i want one of those - Blitz DSBC Spec S ones - spec s wots this? its not the single solenoid one is it?
is it this one? http://www.blitz-uk.co.uk/boost.htm

When would you need the cash coz i gotta scrounge like mad but i need one. http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
cheers.

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http://www.300zx.co.uk/200sx/rides/beavertron/southpark_800x600.jpg
Black s13
K+N 56i
Mongoose
Jez Chip

bren

04-02-2002, 07:11

How many of these units can you get hold of and with what sort of lead times?

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Bren

http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/gallery2/7365838885307.jpg

Jezz_S13

04-02-2002, 07:22

Yeah Papa how does the DSBC Spec-S compare with the std DSBC, i may have to have one of those. http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif

Any literature?

Jezz.

Papa Lazarou

04-02-2002, 08:49

Morning!!

OK the DSBC Spec S IS actually the replacement for the S-SBC (it has a single solenoid). The Spec R (replaces current DSBC) is also available but will be more expensive (circa £330-340 off the top of my head).

Jezz, I'll see what specs I can get on the Blitz but unfortunately last I looked Blitz had not updated the range on their site. But I'll try and scan in some pics.

From what I can see the capabilities will be similar to the S-SBC but with a flashier head unit.

Bren I'll drop you a mail later http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif

Actual_Ben_Taylor

04-02-2002, 09:01

Go on then you've twisted my arm...

Put me down for an S-AFC please.

Ben

Papa Lazarou

04-02-2002, 12:13

Excellent! Ben I'll drop you a mail this evening.

Oh yeah, Beavertron I'm looking at sending the order in the next two weeks or so. I'd need the cash before sending the order.

Cheers

Will

05-02-2002, 10:30

Goddamn this board, it makes WAY too many good deals to miss, thus skinting most members!

Please put me down for the Blitz DSBC Boost controller.

Is it Silver or Black?

matt_j

05-02-2002, 11:20

i could deffo be up for this but....

will this sort of buy ever happen in the future? say 6 months down the line?

and also....how do i find info on all these controllers? which is the best and odes anyone have any links? i was under the impression the GReddy was the best at its level for the price but someone please tell me http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/wink.gif
cheers
Matt

beavertron

05-02-2002, 12:32

but dsbc = dual solenoid boost controller - but it only has one solenoid??
me confused now.
Is a ssdc ok?

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http://www.300zx.co.uk/200sx/rides/beavertron/southpark_800x600.jpg
Black s13
K+N 56i
Mongoose
Jez Chip

Papa Lazarou

05-02-2002, 13:50

Will - its neither it is actually a new controller which is not available in the UK yet. It is NOT the same as the DSBC on Blitz UK site. As for how it looks, I believe its black with silver knobs on http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif

Matt - who can predict the future? I may well still be doing this sort of buy in a few months, I may not. It depends on how these first few go, amongnst other things. Prices are highly variable depending on exchange rates.

As for the best, well, the Greddy is an established product, the Blitz is a new one. You can be certain either will "do the job".

Beavertron - I know its confusing and it is probably for marketing reasons. The S-SBC or DSBC Spec S will both control boost efficiently and with few frills. They (and the Profec B) won't have the "fuzzy logic" learning modes of the more expensive ones.

If anyone specifically wants other types I can get prices.

Cheers

[edited as getting dislexkic in my old age]

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Will

07-02-2002, 09:41

Cheers Papa,

My money is now with Ben who is sorting out the payment as per yesterday's phone call.

Cheers for arranging the deal

Will

p.s OOOoooo the NEW IMPROVED DSBC? the one not available in the UK yet?? ARE YOU READING THIS BENNY?! http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/tongue.gif

Papa Lazarou

07-02-2002, 23:39

Thanks Will! I've got a confirmation off Ben also. Hopefully won't be too long now :)

JohnD76

08-02-2002, 09:11

ooohhhhh,

could be intersted in a Super AFC, do I need one though? Have got unichip.

Papa Lazarou

08-02-2002, 10:59

In all honesty John the Unichip should be capable of looking after the fuelling. The S-AFC MAY still be of use as according to Jez the Unichip doesn't seem to have the option to use different Air Flow Meters, which the AFC does with ease, so it may be useful once the stock one starts reach full capacity.

But, if I were you I'd buy an FMIC first (if you haven't sorted one already :D )

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SKIDZ

09-02-2002, 09:18

papa, are there any more details on the blitz dsbc???

Papa Lazarou

09-02-2002, 11:01

Not a lot more info that I can find as of yet, sorry. Heres a pic of it :

http://website.lineone.net/~jon_ed/SBC_SpecS.JPG

This is the model it replaces :

http://www.blitz.co.jp/products/electonic/sbc/ssbc/S-sbc.gif

And this is what they say about it (rough Japanese translation) :

With electric type VVC wonder it actualizes price low. - As for setting boost 2 modes of LO and HI memory possibility. At change one of switches supercharging pressure unrestrictedly variable. - The controller and the control box, the controller 1 / compact conversion of 4DIN size was actualized by the fact that valve unit is designated as 3 piece structures. - Setting adopts the boost control system of CPU control, most cars can show largest potential with just setting of boost pressure. - In order to make the setting of nighttime easy, the light/write to raise the mode switch, visibility and operativity improvement. - You use the small-sized advanced solenoid valve, guarantee the stability of the booth and pressure. Largest potential is shown in the ライトチューン car. - With which of west gate type and actuator type, at change one of switches corresponding possibility. - In order to utilize standing rising speed of boost to the maximum, you adopt GAIN adjustment system.

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Will

11-02-2002, 13:22

Blitz Booster, Spec S: http://www.blitz-na.com/Blitz_SBC_SPEC_S.htm

But Papa, I've changed my mind, I have a Blitz Power ID (as of last weekend, and would like the SBC-ID to go with it, it looks awesome!
Can you get me a price? http://www.blitz-na.com/Blitz_SBC_ID.htm

http://www.blitz-na.com/Image/SBC_ID.jpg

Stuymac

11-02-2002, 13:23

Papa,

You got mail!! :D

beavertron

11-02-2002, 15:37

Papa - u agn have mail.

Jezz_S13

11-02-2002, 16:56

Originally posted by Will:
Blitz Booster, Spec S: http://www.blitz-na.com/Blitz_SBC_SPEC_S.htm

But Papa, I've changed my mind, I have a Blitz Power ID (as of last weekend, and would like the SBC-ID to go with it, it looks awesome!
Can you get me a price? http://www.blitz-na.com/Blitz_SBC_ID.htm

http://www.blitz-na.com/Image/SBC_ID.jpg 

That is the biz! how much?
Looks like about £450 from here :(

Tell me you can get em for £250 Papa. :)

Papa Lazarou

11-02-2002, 18:05

SBC-Id - I can get them for £395 if anyone is interested!! Not £250, but they are the bo***cks!

Stu, can you re-send the email it doesn't seem to have arrived yet!!

Beavertron - got yours, I'll reply shortly ;)

Cheers

Papa

Will

12-02-2002, 09:03

How much?! :eek:

Fine, you've twisted my arm! It does appear to be the pooches plums.

Papa, when you order it, can you make sure you order the wiring harness as well that allows you to get other data from the ECU,
SBC Optional Harness required Par #15053 (taken from the blitz NA site so please check!)

Let me know how much more I owe you all in,

Cheers buddy, cant wait for my new toy :)

beavertron

12-02-2002, 18:19

cheers papa - hmm boost controller growing on me all the time wasnt sure at first but all that messin with adjus actuators surely this makes more sense. :D
Saab IC waitin to go on so ill have 15psi boost, saab fmic, k+n56i, mongoose, jez chip.
What power should this get me??? lots i hope :D :D :rolleyes:

bond_200

12-02-2002, 20:52

Originally posted by beavertron:
[QB]k+n56i{[QB]

56i? :confused:

Jezz_S13

12-02-2002, 20:58

Originally posted by bond_200:


56i? :confused:

I always wondered too, just didn't have the heart to say anything. :) :) :D :D

bond_200

12-02-2002, 21:30

I can just see my star rating going down to 1 now :( ;) I didn't mean to sound rude, honest!! :)

beavertron

13-02-2002, 03:23

yeh yeh ok ok its been a long day - 57i - i gave you 1 star you bastid. :D :D

Jezz_S13

13-02-2002, 08:16

Originally posted by beavertron:
yeh yeh ok ok its been a long day - 57i - i gave you 1 star you bastid. :D :D

Me too, so it was you!! :(?
I gave you 5 the other day you bastard!!!

Besides you Sig has saif 56i for eons!! :p

Jezz.

Will

13-02-2002, 12:37

:D :D

I knew this rating was a bad idea! I asked Ben taylor (MY MATE!) to rate me, and he gave me 1 star, I complained to him, so he logged back in as someone else and gave me another 1 star! ... I'm gonna kill im!!

beavertron

13-02-2002, 15:31

Originally posted by Jezz_S13:


Me too, so it was you!! :(?
I gave you 5 the other day you bastard!!!

Besides you Sig has saif 56i for eons!! :p

Jezz.

ahh so someone noticed - very good ;)
damn - how long has it said that?
I gave u 5 jez it was the other matey who pointed out the error of my ways that gets the 1!!!!!

matt_j

15-02-2002, 11:38

Papa....I am interested in the Blitz and also the SAFC but the Blitz comes first.....unsure if i have the money tho at present so when do you wanna get this thing underway? and also, i wanna know if you willd o this again in the future cos more around april time would be much better for me ;)

cheers mate
Matt

Papa Lazarou

15-02-2002, 12:11

Matt I really need to get this one ordered very shortly. Just waiting for one cheque to be re-sent and for an answer for Will on an SBC harness and the order will then be confirmed.

I have peoples money so can't hang about. I'm sure you understand ;)

As for future buys, I don't see any reason why not if this goes OK. As long as its not more hassle than its worth, then I will be happy to sort out this sort of thing in future!

Stuymac

15-02-2002, 12:27

Papa,

Has my cheque arrived OK?

Papa Lazarou

15-02-2002, 12:33

Yeah sorry mate forget to mail you - I got it yesterday.

Cheers Stu

beavertron

20-02-2002, 15:29

and mine - this time? :rolleyes:

Papa Lazarou

20-02-2002, 21:18

Beavertron, YGM. Lets hope it turns up soon eh?

beavertron

21-02-2002, 00:14

Papa u got mail now - i can explain..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Matt_S

22-02-2002, 10:56

Papa - Has this stuff been ordered yet and whats the ETA? [I need to know - you know why.... ;)]

Cheers mate.

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Papa Lazarou

22-02-2002, 13:21

Hi Matt. The stuff has been ordered but best ETA I can give is 1st-2nd week in March. I hope this doesn't put you out too much.. Ordering was delayed a little by cheques, canx'd/changed orders and so on :rolleyes:

If you need me to do anything else, as always let me know :).

Cheers

Actual_Ben_Taylor

22-02-2002, 13:40

It's all that bl00dy Will Solomon's fault. Bastid can't make up his mind.... ;)

SteveSadler

22-02-2002, 14:46

Originally posted by Papa Lazarou:
In all honesty John the Unichip should be capable of looking after the fuelling. The S-AFC MAY still be of use as according to Jez the Unichip doesn't seem to have the option to use different Air Flow Meters, which the AFC does with ease, so it may be useful once the stock one starts reach full capacity.

But, if I were you I'd buy an FMIC first (if you haven't sorted one already :D )

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Wrong

the UNICHIP can control airflow and adapt for different injectors

the good thing with it though is you can have hi and low setting maps. So if your cruising around town u simply switch to the Low Map Setting.

Will

22-02-2002, 15:19

It was all my fault, sorry, just was very reluctant to hand my money over via BEN "THE SCAMMING" SCOUSER (for obvious reasons) ;)

Papa Lazarou

22-02-2002, 18:07

Originally posted by SteveSadler:


Wrong

the UNICHIP can control airflow and adapt for different injectors

the good thing with it though is you can have hi and low setting maps. So if your cruising around town u simply switch to the Low Map Setting.

But I should point out I was trying to discourage John from buying one.... Anyway, I was simply referring to a post I read by Jez. He obtained a copy of the Unichip mapping software and he states there is no facility to tune the AFM, at least in the software. Although I'm sure you could work around this somehow.