top mount turbo kits - Page 2

VeilSide200sx · 27-09-2006, 13:19

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Originally Posted by sirtest2004

No, get hks or garrett,lol. Joking, it's entirely up to you mate. Wherever you get it, the hks kit will be more expensive than the others...the hks turbo is made almost entirely of garrett components, think maybe with a slight difference to a housing...difference in performance i doubt will be very noticable, price difference will be immense!

Which brings us back to the american 3076r kit.

sirtest2004 · 27-09-2006, 13:22

yeah that's what im hinting at you getting...i'm gettin the same kit but 3071 if i keep mine SR.

might even get this first to see what it's like http://shop.hybridynamics.com/index....PROD&ProdID=28

which "1 x Garrett T3/TO4E Turbocharger of your choice" would suit 400bhp?

bren · 27-09-2006, 14:21

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Originally Posted by sideways danny

be nice to see somone do something different and actually try stuff. modding is about being different not having exactly the same bolt ons as everyone else

Thats fine if it works, if not then its a very exspensive development process. When youre talking the best part of £2k I personally would not want to go the guini pig route when there are tried and tested options also out there.

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Originally Posted by sirtest2004

www.nengun.com you can pick up a greddy kit for half price of what you'll get it for over here, and if you're looking at importing from the states there's no difference in chances of gettin caught out by customs etc. well worth the hassle

Theyre nothing like half price abroad and if you order something as large as a big turbo kit from the US then more often than not it wont be in stock and will have to be imported from Japan to the US and then to the UK. When I ordered my T78 kit from the US it took three months to land. But thats not the point, the minimal price difference between big Jap name and the other kits on offer is the key point.

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Originally Posted by sirtest2004

No, get hks or garrett,lol. Joking, it's entirely up to you mate. Wherever you get it, the hks kit will be more expensive than the others...the hks turbo is made almost entirely of garrett components, think maybe with a slight difference to a housing...difference in performance i doubt will be very noticable, price difference will be immense!

Theres a lot more to a turbo kit than just the turbo.

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Originally Posted by VeilSide200sx

I had thought about that kit originally but it does'nt appear to have worked for papa as it should have.

Had Gary specced and built Papas car then I suspect things would have been very different.

VeilSide200sx · 27-09-2006, 14:42

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Originally Posted by bren

Had Gary specced and built Papas car then I suspect things would have been very different.

Has'nt papa got a similar specked engine to ken and stimpy?

bren · 27-09-2006, 14:47

I dont know the spec of his car.

markr · 27-09-2006, 15:22

u could buy parts seperate.. like full race manifold or which ever u want, buy whatever turbo, then make a down pipe or get a full race downpipe etc....

ive looked into this and it can be done

also cheak out http://www.enjukuracing.com/ its got a load of bits for us lot!

bren · 27-09-2006, 16:25

Thats even more of a receipe for disaster.

Sideways Danny · 27-09-2006, 16:41

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Originally Posted by bren

Thats even more of a receipe for disaster.

why?

bren · 27-09-2006, 16:55

Unless youre a pretty keen turbo expert its going to be hard to spec the turbo correctly in the first place but youre then adding the complexities of choosing the correct external wastegate plus getting involved in fabricationg a one off custom downpipe and screamer pipe followed by sorting one off oil and water feeds and returns plus induction systems and then you have to start designing your own heat management system.

Ive been involved in trying a number of turbo and manifold configurations and the whole things a ball ache from start to finish for a large number of reasons.

markr · 27-09-2006, 17:57

so have we any top mount kits for a reasonable price then?????

bren · 27-09-2006, 18:05

It depends on what you call reasonable.

markr · 27-09-2006, 20:12

well what prices do they come in at then....??

ex-ctr · 27-09-2006, 20:21

got the turbo, custom pipes for oil and water off bren and made the rest and i've not had a problem, only wish i had gone t3 and external wastegate

sirtest2004 · 27-09-2006, 20:49

[QUOTE=bren]

Theres a lot more to a turbo kit than just the turbo.
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I'm more than aware of that...dont really see the point you're making. A HKS kit comes with the hardware to fit it, manifold, oil and coolant lines etc...but so does the package on the US site?

If you're trying to say HKS or Greddy manifolds are better than Peakboost (as they are the other major component of the kits), i'd suggest you buy a peakboost manifold and run some tests on it, they have a great reputation and come with a lifetime warranty. I know a few people with hks manifolds that have had to have them re-welded, may be just coincidence but hey.

You buy your stuff from japan...because its made there and its cheap there...there's no other source. Why shouldnt other people buy straight from japan? If ordering from Jap was such a mission you wouldnt be in business

Gary@APT · 27-09-2006, 21:05

thats not what he's saying,when you get a greddy kit in the manual it tells you roughly what power you will get for a start but its power that will have no problems like surge and creep that many kits built by small companys suffer,i have to say this it not always the case but is mostly.

at the end of day its a big outlay to spend and if you spend 2k putting a kit together and you end up with problems it can end up costing your more

VeilSide200sx · 27-09-2006, 21:33

I wonder if the non hybrid 3076r will suffer from surge and creep. If it still does have issues then you'll definately be mapping a hks 3037 for me Gary. I'm still damn curious to see how bens baby goes when shes past her teething.

sirtest2004 · 27-09-2006, 21:47

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Originally Posted by Gary@APT

thats not what he's saying,when you get a greddy kit in the manual it tells you roughly what power you will get for a start but its power that will have no problems like surge and creep that many kits built by small companys suffer,i have to say this it not always the case but is mostly.

at the end of day its a big outlay to spend and if you spend 2k putting a kit together and you end up with problems it can end up costing your more

I thought he was refering to components within the kit. I know what you mean about coming across difficulties when using components from different manufacturers, but what would cause the creep and surge in the example kit given...im not asking to be an ass im asking to be educated. Peakboost are well known for their mani's, and the turbo is a GT series Garrett, ranked as amoung the best turbos at the minute by many tuners, it's not exactly an xspower kit

Gary@APT · 27-09-2006, 21:57

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Originally Posted by sirtest2004

I thought he was refering to components within the kit. I know what you mean about coming across difficulties when using components from different manufacturers, but what would cause the creep and surge in the example kit given...im not asking to be an ass im asking to be educated. Peakboost are well known for their mani's, and the turbo is a GT series Garrett, ranked as amoung the best turbos at the minute by many tuners, it's not exactly an xspower kit

i now i can see all people views,i dont normally get invovled in threads like this because people have there own ideas but i have seen a few people recent get caught out a turbos number ie gt3071 only tells you some basic info about turbo theres a lot more to it than that

that aside i havent even looked at peakboost kit....does any one run one???

i have just bought a complete gt35 kit for my car,its not greddy or hks but many people are running it with 100% success so cheaper kits can be done as it does what it should

heres some pics so you can see....

VeilSide200sx · 27-09-2006, 21:58

The HKS kit is about £700 more than the peakboost kit. It's a lot of money but then it's a proven kit. The whole conversion of taking my car to 500 bhp is costing several grand so maybe the extra £700 to possibly do the job right ain't that much more in the bigger picture.

sirtest2004 · 27-09-2006, 22:03

ooooo that kit looks the sex!the peakboost package is only named so by that particular supplier because theres a peakboost mani,front pipe and dump pipe included.i believe theres many high power sr's running peakbost and full race manis in oz,nz and the us. i dont know anyone running one over here, but that doesnt mean they're not proven, they're just not supplied by uk suppliers so arent so easily available.

i said, in my opinion, to get a HKS or kit comprising of a Garrett GT tubby...i never said not to get a jap kit, and i said it because i've had recommendations from tuners on the quality of the tubbys

27-09-2006, 14:47	#25
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27-09-2006, 15:22	#26
markr Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 1,637	u could buy parts seperate.. like full race manifold or which ever u want, buy whatever turbo, then make a down pipe or get a full race downpipe etc.... ive looked into this and it can be done also cheak out http://www.enjukuracing.com/ its got a load of bits for us lot! Last edited by markr; 27-09-2006 at 15:28.

27-09-2006, 16:25	#27
bren S13 + 2bar = 475@wheels Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bradford Posts: 66,343	Thats even more of a receipe for disaster. __________________ Apex CA20 and SR22 stroker kit group buy/. More info here Apex intercooler group buy, save upto £119!!! Details here Apex V2 S13 S14 full and half roll cage GB. Half £169, full £319! More info here Apex Aeroquip style remote oil cooler kit GB - £149! Click here for info GT2871R turbos £779 - outright sale, ready to go. Click here for info

27-09-2006, 16:55	#29
bren S13 + 2bar = 475@wheels Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bradford Posts: 66,343	Unless youre a pretty keen turbo expert its going to be hard to spec the turbo correctly in the first place but youre then adding the complexities of choosing the correct external wastegate plus getting involved in fabricationg a one off custom downpipe and screamer pipe followed by sorting one off oil and water feeds and returns plus induction systems and then you have to start designing your own heat management system. Ive been involved in trying a number of turbo and manifold configurations and the whole things a ball ache from start to finish for a large number of reasons. __________________ Apex CA20 and SR22 stroker kit group buy/. More info here Apex intercooler group buy, save upto £119!!! Details here Apex V2 S13 S14 full and half roll cage GB. Half £169, full £319! More info here Apex Aeroquip style remote oil cooler kit GB - £149! Click here for info GT2871R turbos £779 - outright sale, ready to go. Click here for info

27-09-2006, 18:05	#31
bren S13 + 2bar = 475@wheels Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bradford Posts: 66,343	It depends on what you call reasonable. __________________ Apex CA20 and SR22 stroker kit group buy/. More info here Apex intercooler group buy, save upto £119!!! Details here Apex V2 S13 S14 full and half roll cage GB. Half £169, full £319! More info here Apex Aeroquip style remote oil cooler kit GB - £149! Click here for info GT2871R turbos £779 - outright sale, ready to go. Click here for info

27-09-2006, 17:57	#30
markr Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 1,637	so have we any top mount kits for a reasonable price then?????

27-09-2006, 20:12	#32
markr Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 1,637	well what prices do they come in at then....??

27-09-2006, 20:21	#33
ex-ctr s14 kind of thing Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: coventry Posts: 7,294	got the turbo, custom pipes for oil and water off bren and made the rest and i've not had a problem, only wish i had gone t3 and external wastegate

27-09-2006, 21:05	#35
Gary@APT Flamethrower Join Date: May 2001 Location: norwich,norfolk Posts: 3,436	thats not what he's saying,when you get a greddy kit in the manual it tells you roughly what power you will get for a start but its power that will have no problems like surge and creep that many kits built by small companys suffer,i have to say this it not always the case but is mostly. at the end of day its a big outlay to spend and if you spend 2k putting a kit together and you end up with problems it can end up costing your more __________________ --------------------------------------------------- Automotive Performance Tuning - Tel:01603 870990 Email: sales@ap-tuning.co.uk FAST ROAD SPEC SR20'S from £3200 Details Here Power FC Mapping - Winter Remap Deal 2009!!

27-09-2006, 21:33	#36
VeilSide200sx NON-MEMBER Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,273	I wonder if the non hybrid 3076r will suffer from surge and creep. If it still does have issues then you'll definately be mapping a hks 3037 for me Gary. I'm still damn curious to see how bens baby goes when shes past her teething.

27-09-2006, 21:58	#39
VeilSide200sx NON-MEMBER Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,273	The HKS kit is about £700 more than the peakboost kit. It's a lot of money but then it's a proven kit. The whole conversion of taking my car to 500 bhp is costing several grand so maybe the extra £700 to possibly do the job right ain't that much more in the bigger picture.