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Old 17-07-2004, 10:33   #1
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Cobblers / Phatty - GTR FMIC

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If your looking for the pipe-runs, final install pics ect ... posts 105(Mono-Phils install) and 108(My install with Standard Battery/Position) are what you need !!!!


Being that both you two have GTR intercoolers, and I have seen this thread
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.p...light=GTR+FMIC
and had a little info about your IC install.

Is there anything you would do different, or not mentioned in that thread ??

Thanks

Will be doing mine instead of going to billing I think.
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Why not do it AT Billing?
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Why not do it AT Billing?
Its not a quick easy job ..

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Pah - you've got no sense of adventure Kev

OK. you buy the other one thats in Congleton for £100 and we'll do both cars
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What other one that's in Congleton?
Look in "for sale" after i bought one (for more than £100) I found another in Congleton for £100 - Bargin
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Never realised there was a "For Sale" section - it's too far from non 200. I don't know if I want to look - I might be tempted to go to the dark side and modify Neville
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Which is why i'm thinking of selling mine and getting a greddy kit from Apex or SRB.
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If theres one thing I could do again, it would be to not do it and buy a kit
Nah .. I'm on a VERY tight budget .. and just spent far far too much on mods this month now
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Nah .. I'm on a VERY tight budget .. and just spent far far too much on mods this month now
Well the bumpers off, the FMIC is where it needs to go, just short of some brackets, cutting of some bits of excess metal took 5 mins.
Bumper needs trimming - tormmorrow.
FMIC looks amost made for the space.
Looks like the washer bottle will turn 90o easily, as Phatty suggested.

I forsee no problems with tommorrows fixing of tonights placing.

No pics sorry sisters digicam and she is in Scotland, hence the empty garage and the day off work for modding

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Old 21-07-2004, 10:34   #17
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how much did you get the cooler and the pipes for?
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Zoom if you pull this off, any chance you could do mine if i get a cooler? obviously ill pay for the pipework to be made up. and sort you out with a few quid for fitting the thing
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Quite surprised at how easy it actually looked to fit it and how little cutting would be required, only real bitch part of it I can see is rotating the washer bottle
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Kev you've got the R33 GTR cooler right?

I have a beautiful alloy R34 item here but the only thing is its got a hole in the cold end tank for a temp sensor, does the R33 one have this? if so what have you done with it?
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Quite surprised at how easy it actually looked to fit it and how little cutting would be required, only real bitch part of it I can see is rotating the washer bottle
So what do you need to cut then?

I love that piccy of Cobblers grinding away at those 2 brackets sticking out of the front of the car, on Phattys he left them on but cobblers cut them straight off. Are they bumper supports? if you cut them off what does the bumper sit on?
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The R33 cooler doesn't have this.

you could always screw a temp sensor into it and see what the intake temp is like...

or just put a bolt in it of the right thread...

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Id suggest putting a temperature sensor init, not often something comes with somewhere to put a charge temp gauge
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Its a bare hole and 2 fixing bolt locations one each side.

I was thinking about putting a sensor in there. but I'd need soemthing to read it with

Thought I might follow that R34 ebay auction and email the winner, obviously the cooler on that one is no good

I asked Phatty and he blanked his off
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Oh BTW

I'm fully cleared for a good at this on the weekend

Nothing can go wrong even the weather is good

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and Phil good luck with yours, I think were all getting pipework from the same place.
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Hadyn : I could possibly get a 3rd set of piping made up, but there may not be enough time, its going to take 2 days to do 2 kits for me and Wallers.

Phil : No, no charge temp plug, can you not use it to take actuator/boost control tubing off ??

Well its on, very little in the wau of grinding, a little hack-sawing and it slots stright in. Mounted it WAY forward in the bumper so its well away from oil cooler & rad to minimise heatsoak when in traffic.

Bumper needed some major cutting, I actually did quite a bad job :'( but hopefull wont show once its all meshed. Anyone wanna help me get it looking nice feel free to volunteer ... I have half an inclination to just open it up wide.

Wallers - Make sure you can borrow a dremel next weekend ... the hack-saw wasnt ideal for the bumper, it actually only needs 2 corners taken off the center vents .. I took way too much off.

Wasbottle : turned it 90o, made all new brackets .. then realised it was too close to arch ... turned it 90o the other way and made all new brackets again ... was fine, loads of room for the pipework.

90mm Drill ... this was the painful bit £20 on a 90mm metal cutting drill bit, that didnt go down to well on my budget, then taking a HUGE hole out under the stock BOV place, it was easy enough but after getting several flying hot metal shards on my arms I had to put some long sleeves on (despite the heat) and you cant look at where your drilling incase any bits get in your eyes. I'll bring some saftey specs next weekend and the drill bit.

Spent about £10 on metal strips/brackets for fixing, that was OK, glad I could keep the OEM washer bottle.

sorry .. no photos, I usually use works or sisters digicam but had neither today.

Well spent day off work

Just having a brew .. then the arch liners + undertray back on and its all done (apart from meshing the messy bumper, could be arsed, really needs tiding up first, or butchering to death )
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zoom pm me how much you'd want to knock up some piping for a gtr cooler - does the pipework vary much between the r33/34 cooler?
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I'll have a go at tidying your bumper for you if you want, shouldn't be too hard, I've been watching how SilviaGod does it
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zoom pm me how much you'd want to knock up some piping for a gtr cooler - does the pipework vary much between the r33/34 cooler?
The guy thats doing mine from the turbo recons £170 should do it. If thats any good to you
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90mm Drill ... this was the painful bit £20 on a 90mm metal cutting drill bit, that didnt go down to well on my budget, then taking a HUGE hole out under the stock BOV place
Will the std BOV go back in with the hole through the wing, what about clearence of your cold pipe on the tyres at full lock?
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tyre clearance wont be a problem, the cold pipe will be going behind the shit tray*


*please excuse Tenman's non use of correct technical terms, I meant arch liner
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The guy thats doing mine from the turbo recons £170 should do it. If thats any good to you
Is it worth someone speaking to a manufacturer of the pipes and see if we can get some made up with a group bulk discount? I'm certain a great number of us would love to grab a GTR IC and then stick it in if we can get the cost down to say pipework for £100-140 plus £100-150 odd for the IC....

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Kev, the best thing to do would be to PM Cobblers cos he live in the same town as me but travels alot with his work so he doesn't always have loadsa time.
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Cobblers used some tubing from a blitz cooler he found on a scrapper

Phatty used straights and silicone bends

You could probably use brens tubing kit, if he still does it but again its straights and silicone bends AFAIK and its £200

Problem is everybody wants different things, some want bling, others want cheap, different IDs, different piping routes, different takeoffs for BOVs in different places etc.

Thats why nobody does a kit I think, also the coolers are hard to get at a decent price

Whats SM Zoom doing for his, DIY?
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Paul - its in now, no worries.

BOV .. well the HKS DV is sat back over that hole for the time being, I may have removed the mounts for the std recirc in drilling, the DV will have to go elsewhere one the kit is in.

Clearance.. the tightest point is the backl of the wash bottle onto the arch liner, the arch liner fully covers where the pipework will go, so should be fine, the arch liner JUST goes in its normal position, but is tight against the washer pumps.

Price - Totally Custom @ Cambridge reckon the job is £300 to have it booked in a sinlge day, 3" pipework from turbo. £200 for 2 days then they can do other stuff, cheaper if you can leave it a week / short notice and they will do it as a "filler" job.
I've gone for 2 day option (I'll be camping in Cambridge next Thursday night if any locals want to show me the town, or offer me a bed )

Getting an unknown as yet discount for 2 kits .. me and Wallers using my install as template, then off to Stoofers (??) Saturaday to install Wallers' IC + Kit in the same way as mine. Well thats the plan, 95% sorted I think

You can get GTR intercoolers for £100-£200

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I'll have a go at tidying your bumper for you if you want, shouldn't be too hard, I've been watching how SilviaGod does it
Its just needs dremelling (so the sides match) then meshing - deffo painting black mesh - silver stands out too much on green car.
Half tempted to butcher it to death instead .. open it up wide

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zoom pm me how much you'd want to knock up some piping for a gtr cooler - does the pipework vary much between the r33/34 cooler?
Pipework wise they are the same, R32/R33 is 64mm thick, R34 is 65mm thinck and has a temp sender hole. Anyone can go to totally custom for pipework ... I was going to have a friend of a friend do it .. but he was drunk when he said yes, then agreed to do it anyway... then saw the job ... had mild heart attack ... and said it was about 4X the work he was expecting, and it would take him a while to fit it in. I NEED it sorting by Sat 31st (??) for my RR run, 14 days after = Bruntingthorpe trackday (me Vs about 10 MkII escorts, 8 Cossies, 4 Fiat coupes ......(someone else help me uphold 200SX honour ??? see sig), another 3 weeks = Silverstone trackday. I just needed the job done quicker. Hence today off work for fitting, next thurs/Fri off work for piping :thumbs

Think thats everything, sorry if I missed anyone Q's
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well thats where I'm taking mine but thats not the price I got.

Sounds like I'd beter drop them a PM I'd be happy with that route maybe they should make up 3 kits.

R34 cooler is the nuts, sometimes (when I'm alone in the house) I'll get it out and admire its alloy luvliness and that extra 1mm makes all the difference.

So much nicer than a black R33 item

Seriously though if you have the option get the R34 one as somebody posted on here when cobblers got his that the construction of the R34 cooler makes it a better cooler, not that the R33 isn't a fine bit of kit

I'm waffling now so I'll get my coat
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Price - Totally Custom @ Cambridge reckon the job is £300 to have it booked in a sinlge day, 3" pipework from turbo. £200 for 2 days then they can do other stuff, cheaper if you can leave it a week / short notice and they will do it as a "filler" job.
I've gone for 2 day option (I'll be camping in Cambridge next Thursday night if any locals want to show me the town, or offer me a bed )
So have you fitted the cooler and they are doing the pipes or???
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So have you fitted the cooler and they are doing the pipes or???
Yep fitted cooler, drilled 90mm hole, moved washer bottle to increase space for pipes, cut bumper out (too much), small amount out of the undertray(s).

Provisionally booked @ Totally next Thurs/Fri
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Got some pics .. but hard to show how-2-install once the bumper is back on.

From the front (cant see much)


Looking down on the Rad/OilCooler/FMIC


Moved Washer bottle


The Hole (viewed from inside wheel arch, mainly covered by arch liner).

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More pics

A fixing point .. useless photo


The Hot end .... and you can see the FMIC in the main frontal bit of the bumper best in this shot.


My Engine bay .. nothing to see here for FMIC install .. but well .. you know you love it





White things @ the end of the cooler are rubber gloves .. to stop muck getting insdie the cooler.
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I can't see anything

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Update:

Piping been delayed a week .. but still hopefully done in time for a days Scrabble bashing you miserable lot wimped out of @ 200SX Vs Fiat Coupes (read SM Vs Fiat Coupes ) @ Bruntingthorpe on the 14th

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not been on for a while and just seen this thread, did you get it all sorted?


i should really read the whole thread before posting
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So what do you need to cut then?

I love that piccy of Cobblers grinding away at those 2 brackets sticking out of the front of the car, on Phattys he left them on but cobblers cut them straight off. Are they bumper supports? if you cut them off what does the bumper sit on?
The bits of metal i cut off dont do anything at all that i could see anyway, they just seemed to stop me gettin the cooler as far back as i wanted it so i didnt have to cut much of my bumper away, anyway metal is heavier than plastic so the more metal i cut off the better
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not been on for a while and just seen this thread, did you get it all sorted?
Sort of its in, I mounted it forward, cut the bumper, kept it away from the oil cooler/rad.
90mm hole drilled ready for coldpipe.
washer bottle rotated 90o

Just needs pipework, should have confirmed with pipers today ... but they must have been busy with another pipe .. maybe of crack .. as they never answered my calls.
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you`ll be made up once its sorted i got mine dyno`d again at billing and it recorded 272.7bhp at the hubs thats with very safe top end fueling(thor said too safe) and 1.2bar on my boost gauge although there dyno said it was peaking at 1.35bar and only dropping to 1.2 by about 6000rpm on a standard turbo, i would say its doing its job pretty well
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you`ll be made up once its sorted i got mine dyno`d again at billing and it recorded 272.7bhp at the hubs thats with very safe top end fueling(thor said too safe) and 1.2bar on my boost gauge although there dyno said it was peaking at 1.35bar and only dropping to 1.2 by about 6000rpm on a standard turbo, i would say its doing its job pretty well
I aint got no 555's will still be limited to 13 on track/top speed and 15psi on road/dragstrip
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i got s15 injectors but there flat out at about 6300 revs but i think there only 440cc although i bought them as 480cc off ebay , but away this is gettin slightly off the topic of your cooler so ill shutup, i hope it works out for you
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i got s15 injectors but there flat out at about 6300 revs but i think there only 440cc although i bought them as 480cc off ebay , but away this is gettin slightly off the topic of your cooler so ill shutup, i hope it works out for you
Hehe no worries the thread is old now and its is related.
Surely they have to be 480cc, unless they are modified Scooby 440's ??

Anyways thanks for the advice, if totally custom sort their asses out it will be working by weekend, blasted round Bruntingthorpe the week after and on Thor's Dyno the week after that, and Silverstone after that ... So I'll soon see how good it is, I know how poor the WMIC is as I have a nice ACT gauge.
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zoom i thought skidz was sorting the pipework out for you??

can you get whoever does your pipework to knock up a template?
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zoom i thought skidz was sorting the pipework out for you??

can you get whoever does your pipework to knock up a template?
I asked Skidz out of courtsey for the new forum traders, but I NEED it DEFFO working by next weekend.
I have TRIED to get somebody to do some kits, there are 2 others interested apart from you ... it should be easy but its a pain in the fooking arse, I've messed Wallers around over the last few weeks trying to sort stuff.
I'll just have to concentrate on getting mine sorted, and talk to the suppliers once mine is being done. I will do my best to help anyone else, but trying to sort one is hard enough never mind 4 (even though you would think that people would go out of there way to get Quadruple the cash out of us??)
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I don't think you've messed me about at all. Either we have our wires crossed? I think maybe I didn't explain it that well :| I guess we just want slightly different things from the pipework.

I need an inlet (!?) for the AVC-R on the cold side, the dump valve on the hot pipe (although I've been thinking of re-circing again). I think you were having the dump valve on the cold side?
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I'm now going down the hole in the battery tray route and relocated battery

Lennie and I are sorting ours, he's using my Evo VI cooler and a mixture of Blitz and Hybrid pipes and I'm using the GTR cooler and the Custom pipes.

Lennie will have done the job for a Billy bargain price. I think the Evo cooler will be an excellent fit too, better than the GTR, when you measure up the core "volume" its nearly as big as the GTR, just a bit less facial area (evo cooler is deeper and wider)
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Pipework

A firm called Hygienic Stainless Steel (have web site) near Preston, Lancs sell Stainless Steel pipe and fittings in the sizes suitable for intercoolers. As a guide a 63mm x 1.5mm wall thickness long radius bend is about £5 plus vat and 1m of same size tube is about £10 plus vat. Much cheaper than samco bends. Straight couplers would only be required.
Fittings can be descaled (quite good finish) or polished for a few quid more.
I've bought tube, bends, elbows and reducers to TIG weld together reducing joints to a minimum (saving space) along with outlets for BOV etc.
Hopefully this will connect to 800 x 300 x 76mm intercooler I've just acquired (£154 new) from Australia.
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I don't think you've messed me about at all. Either we have our wires crossed?
I meant saying
"It will happen this weekend @ this price"
"No it wont"
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"Might not happen"
I call this messing you about even if you not too bothered (and you never said you were or complained).
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I need an inlet (!?) for the AVC-R on the cold side, the dump valve on the hot pipe (although I've been thinking of re-circing again). I think you were having the dump valve on the cold side?
Everyone will need a boost controller / Actuator line from the cold side.
May go for DV on the hot side too, again would prefer recirc (especially with all the backfiring my car does with the vent-2-air; calling it a pop/bang does not make it cool ) but couldnt find a cheap aftermarket one, but may get to swap with Kuddy

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A firm called Hygienic Stainless Steel (have web site) near Preston, Lancs sell Stainless Steel pipe and fittings in the sizes suitable for intercoolers.
Well I need it doing this weekend, I may ask you for details of this, do they do the connectors as well? I have no welder but it MUST be done this week / weekend but I can take wed/thurs/fri mon/tues off work if needed.
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Well I need it doing this weekend, I may ask you for details of this, do they do the connectors as well? I have no welder but it MUST be done this week / weekend but I can take wed/thurs/fri mon/tues off work if needed.[/QUOTE]



The smaller pipes to weld in for BOV etc I "acquired" previously from scrap bin at work. Don't know if HSS do anything less than 25mm OD. HSS do fabrication work I suggest you give them a ring and tell them what you want.

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Booked in For Thursday/Friday @ Totally Custom, Cambridge.

WooHoo .. eventually I'll have decent intercooling
Show those Fiat Coupe Boys a thing or 3 in 2 weeks time
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86mm hole cutter in my possesion

Muwwhahahahaha
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86mm hole needed in my car.

I might chop some holes in my bonned so i can be as cool a haydn.
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I might chop some holes in my bonned so i can be as cool a haydn.
got an 89mm drill bit anyone can borrow (as long as I can post it to a work address for free posting). You'll have to pay the postage back. Cheaper than £20 though.
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The inlet / outlet on this R34 cooler is 80mm

I want a couple of reducing elbows ideally to go down to 70 or 60mm but nobody does them

What did you lot do?????????
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I cut the original pipe that goes to the plenum in 2, put it in boiling water, and squeezed it over, it works really well, but is quite hard to do..
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Nice

But I wanted to keep all the std bits

There is another way, also I've found a SS pipe supplier in Luton who can help out

If I can't sort it by tomorrow its off the shelf time
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I still dont have a kit .... might have to move on to the next plan myself ...
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you wanna look at that quote in your sig skunk monkey, i thinks its trying to tell you something.


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I still dont have a kit .... might have to move on to the next plan myself ...
Feeling more hopeful now, I have a plan, just these 80mm outlets are a pain in the butt

Hold on SM I may have good news for you
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Feeling more hopeful now, I have a plan, just these 80mm outlets are a pain in the butt

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Cool .. my outlets were 76mm IIRC.
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Out of interest has anyone tried getting hold of the standard GTR intercooler pipes and seeing if they make fitting the cooler any easier?
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Cool .. my outlets were 76mm IIRC.
That is much better that 80 on the R34
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Lennie or anybody

Whats the diameter of the end of the std hotpipe where it leaves the engine bay and plugs in to the OE WMIC, is it 50mm???

I was going to attempt a whole new hotpipe but its much easier just to run it off the old hotpipe
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phone that sfs place, they willm make reducers for the next day.
Told me 3-4 weeks for non standard stuff
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Old 24-08-2004, 12:34   #82
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Lennie or anybody

Whats the diameter of the end of the std hotpipe where it leaves the engine bay and plugs in to the OE WMIC, is it 50mm???

I was going to attempt a whole new hotpipe but its much easier just to run it off the old hotpipe
Dunno, mine at home i can measure it later if u like
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Told me 3-4 weeks for non standard stuff
Is that non standard then? if its straight then its standard isnt it?
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Old 24-08-2004, 12:36   #84
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list of reducers on there site.

Bore (mm) Part Number
25-16 SR25-16
25-19 SR25-19
32-25 SR32-25
38-28 SR38-28
38-32 SR38-32
38-35 SR38-35
45-38 SR45-38
48-25 SR48-25
48-30 SR48-30
51-38 SR51-38
51-45 SR51-45
54-51 SR54-51
57-51 SR57-51
60-50 SR60-50
63-51 SR63-51
63-57 SR63-57
70-50 SR70-50
70-57 SR70-57
70-60 SR70-60
70-63 SR70-63
73-70 SR73-70
76-51 SR76-51
76-63 SR76-63
80-70 SR80-70
83-69 SR83-69
88-79 SR88-79
90-70 SR90-70
90-80 SR90-80
102-76 SR102-76
102-89 SR102-89
111-98 SR111-98
114-98 SR114-98
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Dunno, mine at home i can measure it later if u like
its 50mm
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wont any of those reducers work?
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wont any of those reducers work?
Problem is getting from 50 - 80mm

I can use an elbow 50 - 70 then length of 70mm SS then 70 - 80 connector, 80mm SS then 80mm silicone bend, just putting a fax in to the SS people

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76 - 51 at a squeeze?
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Big problem is the car is metric

70mm inlet
80mm intercooler in& out
50mm hotpipe exit

and the SS pipes are all imperial 2.5" = 63mm, 3" = 76mm

And very few connectors go imperial to metric

SFS are being helpful if I can get a couple of 80mm-63mm connectors I'll be OK
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Just dont beat me to the install ....

Spoke to Nick today, he offered to refund the fuel costs I had to Cambridge ... that doesnt exactly help with my fitting kit, I still need one

Surely 76mm Samco will stretch to 80mm ???
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Surely 76mm Samco will stretch to 80mm ???
Yep it'll stretch to 80mm, I've fitted 76mm samco to an 80mm Z32 MAFS before
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Oh and you can use 80mm hose on a 76mm pipe if you wrap the pipe in gaffa tape anf double up on hose clamps
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Yep it'll stretch to 80mm, I've fitted 76mm samco to an 80mm Z32 MAFS before
Well samco recon 0.5mm tolerance and theres the lip on the cooler to get over

Just can't see it working, but it may be a last resort

what happens to silicone tube if you stick it in hot water alla Phatty, does it damage it, it should be good up to 170c it says
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Oh and you can use 80mm hose on a 76mm pipe if you wrap the pipe in gaffa tape anf double up on hose clamps
get on there you



I'm trying for a 63mm pipe run as I'm not going to replace the 50mm hotpipe ATM, loads of these Jap kits don't either seems like just the hybrid
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Just dont beat me to the install ....

Spoke to Nick today, he offered to refund the fuel costs I had to Cambridge ... that doesnt exactly help with my fitting kit, I still need one

Surely 76mm Samco will stretch to 80mm ???
If this guy comes through at SFS I should be able to pick a load of similar bits up for you kev, and you can DIY

Problem is you went through the wing, I went through the bat tray, Oh yes what a nice job that was
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Cool .. my outlets were 76mm IIRC.
Check that, you'll have no problem using 76mm or 63mm pipe run if thats correct

This SS place does SS bends and straights you can do the rest with SFS silicone hoses job done
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If this guy comes through at SFS I should be able to pick a load of similar bits up for you kev, and you can DIY

Problem is you went through the wing, I went through the bat tray, Oh yes what a nice job that was
Well it would only be 2 pipes that was different, a longer straight by the wash bottle, a shorter straight (or probably just a 90o bend) from the plenum.
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Well it would only be 2 pipes that was different, a longer straight by the wash bottle, a shorter straight (or probably just a 90o bend) from the plenum.
In my library of FMIC picys I have one of the Apexi GT which goes through the wing, looks like you'd need

90 bend from plenum,
straight SS section wtih connectors
90 bend through wing
SS straight past water bottle
then i'm going 45 bend out towards wing short straight then 90 bend back to IC as the outlet is long and bent back.
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Seems right .. I also want my BOV on the hotpipe (for short re-circ).

I have a few things in the pipeline, but please keep me informed of your progress, I might want come contacts from you (or at least a copy of your hot-side)
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Seems right .. I also want my BOV on the hotpipe (for short re-circ).

I have a few things in the pipeline, but please keep me informed of your progress, I might want come contacts from you (or at least a copy of your hot-side)
I started at powerflow this morning but they can't do the small stuff or bend a SS pipe larger than 57mm and even that not very well so they were out.

If you wanted the same hotpipe side as me and a similar Cold side it might help to grease the wheels and get us those special hoses made up. I don't think theres anywhere else where you can get a couple of 80 - 76/63 elbows, if you know somewhere lets hear it
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