What clutch for the power? - Page 2

bren · 12-10-2006, 11:55

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Originally Posted by shaq

I've been looking at getting an ORC 559 Series - Twin Plate Clutch. Nengun sell them for around €950 or £640 delivered. Meant to be able to hold 550ps so that should do for now! Used the Single plate ORC job on last car as was very impressed.

Nengun Link

You need to bear in mind that you might get caught for additional charges including handling charges duty and vat which would take the price to obver £800.

The ORC single kits arent bad money.

We sell a lot of ACT kits but even Id baulk at fitting one of their paddles and running 550bhp with it.

panadol · 12-10-2006, 13:11

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Originally Posted by bren

You need to bear in mind that you might get caught for additional charges including handling charges duty and vat which would take the price to obver £800.

The ORC single kits arent bad money.

We sell a lot of ACT kits but even Id baulk at fitting one of their paddles and running 550bhp with it.

so you're saying that you wouldn't fit an ACT paddle clutch for running about 550bhp?

shaq · 12-10-2006, 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by bren

You need to bear in mind that you might get caught for additional charges including handling charges duty and vat which would take the price to obver £800.

The ORC single kits arent bad money.

We sell a lot of ACT kits but even Id baulk at fitting one of their paddles and running 550bhp with it.

True but nengun are quite good at marking the goods value down and marking it as a warranty return which hasn't failed to work yet. At least over in Ireland.

200sxer · 12-10-2006, 14:10

I have RPS MAX Street clutch which holds 475lbft in after having an RPS paddle and it is mutch better.

AFAIK it is the torque that will wear the clutch more than the bhp

I am running 370+lbft and it is fine, plus nice and smooth in traffic

cranky · 12-10-2006, 14:56

Bren if you need someone to test those spare spec clutch's let me know

bren · 12-10-2006, 14:59

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Originally Posted by panadol

so you're saying that you wouldn't fit an ACT paddle clutch for running about 550bhp?

The only reason I would do it would be from a traders perspective and out of interest only.

Master Chief · 13-10-2006, 00:04

I have the SPEC stage 3 + .... Is a totaly redesigned clutch, and not just an upgrade of stage 3.
Its very nice to drive daily and holds the power nicley.

I had it slip a few times, but it was when i really used a lot of clutch kicks during drifting and it got really hot.
Otherways, it holds beautifuly.

For the price, its a good product.

VeilSide200sx · 13-10-2006, 09:23

Sorry to hijack but whats the differences between a single and a twin plate? Which would be the better for around 500 horses?

ian_t · 13-10-2006, 09:59

Twin

A single might slip when its cold or hot or damaged.

Also twins hold the heat better and are less prone to warping.

cranky · 13-10-2006, 15:39

So back to me, anyone got a spare clutch kicking about

panadol · 14-10-2006, 09:05

Well guys, I think I'm going for the ACT 6 puc with xtreme p/p and a pro-lite flywheel.

Thanks for the help. I know I would be much better off with a twin plate, but at the moment funds aren't so good!

Now being winter is starting, I have to get a garage to complete the S14 for next summer. Hopefully, if everything goes well, it will be ready for about 500 bhp'ish' with new interior, spray job and chassy work

Can't wait for next summer!!!

Thanks once again guys

bren · 14-10-2006, 09:22

Ill test a couple of clutches in our S14 when its running to see what theyll actually hold

panadol · 14-10-2006, 10:25

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Originally Posted by bren

Ill test a couple of clutches in our S14 when its running to see what theyll actually hold

Yeah, that would be a great idea! Here in Malta it's impossible to see what other 200s do, cause there are only 9 on the island, and they all belong to doctors and vets...mine is the only one that was ever tuned here! It's wicked cause ppl don't know what car it is, or what power it's got, but I'm having problems tuning cause no one has ever tuned one! At the moment it's working out by trial and error...and most till now is only error and it's costing me the bomb!

ChrisK · 14-10-2006, 14:03

Im using the act extreme organic clutch kit supplied by Bren and its good. The pedal is a lot heavier and the "bite" is literally about 1 inch of lifting the pedal, anymore and you stall. So its good for standing starts as you ram your foot into the bulkhead, lift it ever so slightly and your off with a leap. I'm still running my clutch in, only done about 80 miles on it. Seems good though and its rated to around 450lb.ft of torque.

panadol · 14-10-2006, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisK

Im using the act extreme organic clutch kit supplied by Bren and its good. The pedal is a lot heavier and the "bite" is literally about 1 inch of lifting the pedal, anymore and you stall. So its good for standing starts as you ram your foot into the bulkhead, lift it ever so slightly and your off with a leap. I'm still running my clutch in, only done about 80 miles on it. Seems good though and its rated to around 450lb.ft of torque.

Thanks for the advice. The clutch you mentioned sounds good, but I need it to keep up with a bit more than 450, that's why I was looking into the padal one.

ChrisK · 14-10-2006, 19:02

more than 450lb.ft of torque?

bloody hell what you running?

ChrisK · 14-10-2006, 19:09

paddle one would be a nightmare to drive as a daily driver imo.

panadol · 15-10-2006, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisK

more than 450lb.ft of torque?

bloody hell what you running?

At the moment a bottom end printed engine, ported and polished head, all internals changed, je pistons, rods, arp bolts, 264 stage 2 hks cams with 11.5 lift, and quite a few other parts.

To come: GT30 or 35 turbo, not decided yet, fmic, aem ems..basically I got the specs of the D1 cars and Drag cars and followed their setup, choosing all the parts that would keep up to a max of 1000 bhp (just to be on the safe side) although I'll never go that far. My ain is between 550 and 600 bhp. My contacts in the US told me that with the setup I have, I'll be looking at low 11's quatermile and with what I want fitted on the car, they told me I'll be looking at about 680 bhp

Any ways, I don't really believe them until I'll have the car dynoed with the parts on. Plus the car isn't going to be a daily driver. I got a 95 civic for that.

Busky2k · 15-10-2006, 12:14

Well there is a fair bit of difference between 550hp and 1000hp. Then again I don't even know of any 1000hp SR20. Also with 680hp thats more like a 9 sec car. A 2871R 0.86 can get you low - mid 11s and thats still a low mount!

Back on topic, I have an OS twin, and theres no way in hell I'd ever go back!

panadol · 15-10-2006, 12:25

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Originally Posted by Busky2k

Well there is a fair bit of difference between 550hp and 1000hp. Then again I don't even know of any 1000hp SR20. Also with 680hp thats more like a 9 sec car. A 2871R 0.86 can get you low - mid 11s and thats still a low mount!

Back on topic, I have an OS twin, and theres no way in hell I'd ever go back!

Not even I know of a 1000 hp sr20, but I just got the parts that can keep up with it...not that I'll ever go that hi, or any where close.

A friend of mine just got an OS twin on his Gti-r..It's a nice piece

12-10-2006, 14:10	#24
200sxer Guest Join Date: May 2002 Location: Under a Thumb Posts: 6,788	I have RPS MAX Street clutch which holds 475lbft in after having an RPS paddle and it is mutch better. AFAIK it is the torque that will wear the clutch more than the bhp I am running 370+lbft and it is fine, plus nice and smooth in traffic __________________ "In all human conflict no matter how thin you slice it there are always two sides"

12-10-2006, 14:56	#25
cranky Guest Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3,722	Bren if you need someone to test those spare spec clutch's let me know __________________

13-10-2006, 09:59	#29
ian_t Guest Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 5,123	Twin A single might slip when its cold or hot or damaged. Also twins hold the heat better and are less prone to warping. __________________ SXOC member 388 - Formerly the owner of a 200sx now owned by FIGJAM Elvington - 13.04@111 - Bruntingthorpe top speed/jtuner magazine - 163.4mph (rev limiter limited with SX gearbox, now with longer ratio 5th 300zx box), SXOC TOTB entry 2006, FIGJAM is entering it for 2007

13-10-2006, 15:39	#30
cranky Guest Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3,722	So back to me, anyone got a spare clutch kicking about __________________

14-10-2006, 09:22	#32
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13-10-2006, 00:04	#27
Master Chief Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 1,224	I have the SPEC stage 3 + .... Is a totaly redesigned clutch, and not just an upgrade of stage 3. Its very nice to drive daily and holds the power nicley. I had it slip a few times, but it was when i really used a lot of clutch kicks during drifting and it got really hot. Otherways, it holds beautifuly. For the price, its a good product.

13-10-2006, 09:23	#28
VeilSide200sx NON-MEMBER Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,273	Sorry to hijack but whats the differences between a single and a twin plate? Which would be the better for around 500 horses?

14-10-2006, 09:05	#31
panadol NON-MEMBER Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Malta Posts: 59	Well guys, I think I'm going for the ACT 6 puc with xtreme p/p and a pro-lite flywheel. Thanks for the help. I know I would be much better off with a twin plate, but at the moment funds aren't so good! Now being winter is starting, I have to get a garage to complete the S14 for next summer. Hopefully, if everything goes well, it will be ready for about 500 bhp'ish' with new interior, spray job and chassy work Can't wait for next summer!!! Thanks once again guys

14-10-2006, 14:03	#34
ChrisK NON-MEMBER Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 484	Im using the act extreme organic clutch kit supplied by Bren and its good. The pedal is a lot heavier and the "bite" is literally about 1 inch of lifting the pedal, anymore and you stall. So its good for standing starts as you ram your foot into the bulkhead, lift it ever so slightly and your off with a leap. I'm still running my clutch in, only done about 80 miles on it. Seems good though and its rated to around 450lb.ft of torque.

14-10-2006, 19:02	#36
ChrisK NON-MEMBER Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 484	more than 450lb.ft of torque? bloody hell what you running?

14-10-2006, 19:09	#37
ChrisK NON-MEMBER Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 484	paddle one would be a nightmare to drive as a daily driver imo.

15-10-2006, 12:14	#39
Busky2k Guest Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 792	Well there is a fair bit of difference between 550hp and 1000hp. Then again I don't even know of any 1000hp SR20. Also with 680hp thats more like a 9 sec car. A 2871R 0.86 can get you low - mid 11s and thats still a low mount! Back on topic, I have an OS twin, and theres no way in hell I'd ever go back! __________________ *S14.5 - 400 bhp* SXOC NVCS (VVT) Sprocket Groupbuy V.3 £270 delivered - Finished!