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Don_200SX
09-11-2001, 14:31
whats the best program to convert mp3 to normal audio(ie. to put on cd)and vice versa? and where can i download it? thanx

Jezz_S13
09-11-2001, 14:50
Nero CD burning software will burn MP3 straight to Audio CD.
http://www.ahead.de

then go to http://astalavista.box.sk for a crack for it.

RichardM
09-11-2001, 15:31
The Ahead / Nero plug in for ripping (audio to mp3) is excellent and worth having.

Perhaps Jezz knows where you can find the hack for this as well?

Jezz_S13
09-11-2001, 15:35
astalavista generally have hacks for everything!

Don_200SX
09-11-2001, 15:42
cheers guys! just got my new changer today so at last can play cd-r so i need to burn some!! http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif

RichardM
09-11-2001, 15:44
Jezz

You know much about mp3 pro?

I'm more than happy with the DVD player that plays mp3 hooked into the stereo, and the CD audio / CD mp3 portable is dead handy and I definately don't want the expense of upgrading, but more compression....

Jezz_S13
09-11-2001, 16:47
Sorry, no not a sausage mate.

I think I ought to check it out though.

JohnD76
09-11-2001, 17:30
If you want MP3's, get Morpheus or Grokster or one of the many similar clones...


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kingdeacon
09-11-2001, 19:06
does anyone know the ratio that mp3 compress's by? roughly

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Jezz_S13
09-11-2001, 19:11
128kbs is 10:1, but better off going for at least 192Kbs, which is 7.5:1.

There are loads of different ratios though.

The best thing for encoding is a thing called Lame, it's got perfect lossless compression. http://www.mp3dev.org/mp3

I saw a test where they (3rd party) compared the freq response of various encoders to the input signal, lame really was identical.

Jezz.

Richy_Boy
09-11-2001, 20:13
Well give me the edition you pick up, and I'll send u back the serial.. I have upto 5.5.2.1

Rich

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Richy_Boy
09-11-2001, 20:15
Nero will convert all MP3 automatically to *.WAV format to burn onto a CD. Also unless your a sound genious and have a competition standard hifi/car stereo then dont worry about compression above 160Kbit/s will ya? http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif

Well thats my thoughts anyway!

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Rich
Fed up with everyone having longer Sigs...
'91 Graphite Grey S13
ND200 + SAAB IC + Jez Stage 1
Coming soon: ProjectX (Wait for RR2 for details :) )

RichardM
09-11-2001, 22:20
This is what I found on the Ahead site, about the mp3 pro standard, anyone know anymore?

What is

About mp3PRO and compatibility:

Using advanced psychoacoustics techniques and music structure analysis, mp3PRO creates files that are more compact than original mp3 files, with equal or better sound quality and complete backwards and forwards compatibility. Your old mp3 files will play completely normally on a new mp3PRO player. New mp3PRO files will play normally on old mp3 players, but without the dramatic mp3PRO improvements. Of course, new mp3PRO files played on a new mp3PRO decoder will provide the optimal listening experience!

How the mp3PRO technology works:

When making an mp3PRO file, the new mp3PRO encoder splits audio recordings into two parts. One part analyzes the low frequency band information and encodes it into a normal mp3 stream. This allows the encoder to concentrate on less information and allows it to do a better job of encoding. This also maintains complete compatibility on old mp3 players. The second part analyzes the high frequency band information and encodes it into a part of the mp3 stream that is normally ignored by old mp3 decoders. New or upgraded mp3PRO decoders will tap into this part of the stream and put the two bands back together, resulting in the full audio bandwidth.

More Music on your media:

Offering 128 kbps (kilo bits per second) performance at a 64 kbps-encoding rate, mp3PRO doubles the digital music capacity of flash memory and of compact discs. For example, traditional audio CDs hold about 15 songs, and an mp3 CD can hold 150 or more songs encoded at 128 kbps. In the near future, when mp3 CD players incorporate the mp3PRO decoder, consumers will be able to store over 300 songs on an mp3PRO encoded Compact Disc.

Sound Quality:

The bottom line is mp3PRO provides superior sound quality at lower bit rates that traditional mp3. You simply have to experience the difference for yourself. Download the new demoversion of Nero which includes a 30 times demoversion for the mp3PRO encoder.

Why mp3PRO Technology?

Listening to music compressed with mp3 at 128 kbps sounds great. But if you go to lower bit rates the great sound starts lacking the high frequency components. At bit rates of 64 kbps and below the music may begin to sound dull. The reason is that mp3 at these bit rates runs out of bits to compress the music in full audio bandwidth and with significant detail. In this situation the developers of mp3 had to decide whether their codec should produce mp3 music with distortion (so called "coding artefacts") or with limited bandwidth. They opted for limited bandwidth. And as a result, you experience lower bit rate mp3 as band-limited music with just a few distortions.