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Goverment plans to put a toll on motorways are, as we all know, being considered. The ballpark figure is at around 50p per mile :eek: ...
My commute to work would cost £20-30 a day, thanks smiley ffffing Blair.
P.S. Just so this isn't biased to motorway users, they going throw some a-roads into the mix aswell. So moving to East Anglia won't save you either.
[ 27-02-2002: Message edited by: Clong ]
Richy_Boy
27-02-2002, 14:31
Wasn;t it more like 3-4p a mile? Depending if on motorway or A roads? :confused:
shadow21
27-02-2002, 14:32
We've got that in France...
****ing expensive (~£12 for me to go working and come back!), and the price vary according to the motorway...
The only positive point is that motorways are usually in a very good state...
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****ing expensive anyway :mad:
Good luck to you!
Cheers
Fabien
Chris_Lacey
27-02-2002, 14:36
The only thing that warms my heart is that it'll get a lot of those f*ckwit lorry drivers (the ones that overtake at 56Mph) off the roads...
Will cost me about £20 a week to use the A12 for work.. what a joke on top of £35 fuel and all the other car related crap.
Originally posted by Richy_Boy:
<STRONG>Wasn;t it more like 3-4p a mile? Depending if on motorway or A roads? :confused:</STRONG>
50p per mile came from a reliable source, but it may have been 5p per mile.
The flip side is that petrol tax will come down by as much 12p per litre and road fund duty will be abolished. If that is the case then 50p per mile is probably right.
These are figures that are being bandied around a the moment, nothing set in stone.....yet.
When tolls are introduced i, for one, am getting the feck out of this country.
SXOC Admin
27-02-2002, 14:51
I'll be quitting my job then :( Can't afford that every day. :(
Originally posted by Clong:
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50p per mile came from a reliable source, but it may have been 5p per mile.
The flip side is that petrol tax will come down by as much 12p per litre and road fund duty will be abolished. If that is the case then 50p per mile is probably right.
These are figures that are being bandied around a the moment, nothing set in stone.....yet.
When tolls are introduced i, for one, am getting the feck out of this country.</STRONG>
If they bring this motorway scheme in I'm sure they'll dream up a reason for not reducing fuel tax or abolishing car tax. :mad:
Yes I know I'm cynical but I've heard all this before.
If they start charging 50p a mile I'll have to quit my job and become unemployed, start claiming unemployment allowance and negate the whole point of this scheme.
Another gem from the Labour party. :)
shadow21
27-02-2002, 14:54
When tolls are introduced i, for one, am getting the feck out of this country.
Don't come to France, then, we are tolls and taxes world champions... :( (at least we are champions at something else than building saxos (have a look at the road kills section) ;) -Sorry again, John...)
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Its a ****ing piss take - they tell you to use public transport but thats a ****ing joke. The trains dont turn up and when they do they are overcrowded and running late and buses are a ****ing joke - the last three times I wanted to get one up here I was waiting over an hour and in one case phoned work and tolds them I couldnt get in coz the buses were shyte :mad:
On top of this, I live in a "rural" area (the third biggest uni city in the country or something, but still "rural") - nearest train staion is 15 miles away, and theres one bus (supposedly) every hour. It would take me 2 hours to get to work by bus - it takes me 20 minutes by car.
Wakners. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Can you tell this is something I fell rather strongly on??
I feel your pain docwra. I have lived in rural areas all my life, my parents get one bus to there village a day...here in the new forest you can't by a return ticket for the bus untill after 9 am , esso own the only train line which runs near here and won't allow a public service to run on it. The whole issue of transport in this country makes me sick, i would love to use pulic transport to save me driving day in day out but there just isn't any in rural areas. :mad:
Conflicting news suggests that tolling won't be around for about 10 years, however there is a lot of activity at the transport department concerning this issue.
[ 27-02-2002: Message edited by: Clong ]
Originally posted by Clong:
<STRONG>I feel your pain docwra. I have lived in rural areas all my life, my parents get one bus to there village a day...here in the new forest you can't by a return ticket for the bus untill after 9 am , esso own the only train line which runs near here and won't allow a public service to run on it. The whole issue of transport in this country makes me sick, i would love to use pulic transport to save me driving day in day out but there just isn't any in rural areas. :mad:
Conflicting news suggests that tolling won't be around for about 10 years, however there is a lot of activity at the transport department concerning this issue.
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I live in the middle of nowhere too. If I were to use public transport to get to work, I could only go in on Thursdays... not much good really. And to get to the the nearest train station by public transport would take me about 1.5 hours (again, only Thursdays) to go about 4 miles...
[ 27-02-2002: Message edited by: Jez ]
Chris_Lacey
27-02-2002, 15:35
There is no way it could ever be 50p a mile.. It would be cheaper to fly than drive if going from London to Liverpool etc.
mambastu
27-02-2002, 15:39
****ing labour **** bastards ****wits **** eating mother****ers :mad:
The higher rate will probably apply to the most heavily congested roads, if it applies at all, but this will just add to the congestion i think. People will seek out the cheaper tolled roads untill they become too conjested, so the toll goes up on those roads and so on. The goverment needs to target the root cause of the problem, not the sympton. For any productions engineers out there, remember the 5 why's?
**** I'd be paying over £300 a week before running costs to get to work! If I had that kind of money to spend on a car i'd be driving a Lambo.
You can bet that the standard of the roads won't be improved, and when you fancy a thrash on some nice quiet country roads it will be chock-a-fookin-block with juggernauts, OAPs and the sort of tight arsed gypsies who drive their heapOshyte bangers without any consideration for a chap out for a quick blast in the country.
What cun7 keeps coming up with these road policies - same thing happened in the late 60's when a 'temporary speed limit was introduced for a short term experiment to see how it affected traffic flow and accident figures'- the bint who introduced it couldn't even drive for christs sake!! :mad:
Rant over, but I don't feel any better for it. Driving is one of the few real pleasures left in this world. Grrrrrr I can see my mpg figure falling substantially for my commute home tonight! :D
How are the going to implement this???
How are they going to tell that yesterday I drove 4 more miles to work than usual (different roads)?
How are they going to tell that I didn't go to London as planned but visited Cardiff, Edniburgh and Lands end all on the same day?
Take a reading from my odo?
Oh dear, my cable seems to have broken...
I believe they are going to use cameras that will recognize the number plate or have an electronic tag placed in the car. Either way is expensive but i'm sure the goverment will foot the bil... :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Starionman:
<STRONG>How are the going to implement this???
How are they going to tell that yesterday I drove 4 more miles to work than usual (different roads)?
How are they going to tell that I didn't go to London as planned but visited Cardiff, Edniburgh and Lands end all on the same day?
Take a reading from my odo?
Oh dear, my cable seems to have broken...</STRONG>
Its a toll booth situation - you take a ticket when you join the motorway and cough up when you depart, depending on how long you traveled for. It also allows them to calculate if you have been speeding by measuring how quickly you reach the pay booth.
It's a reeeaaal Bytch!
Originally posted by Dave_Refault:
<STRONG>I'll be quitting my job then :( Can't afford that every day. :(</STRONG>
Me too! Although actually I'd probably get it back on expenses...
Dave, shall we feck off to Oz and set up the Australian 200sx club? ;)
Originally posted by Clong:
<STRONG>When tolls are introduced i, for one, am getting the feck out of this country.</STRONG>
You're prepared to live in WALES???!!!
Nah, fuc& this. Theres no way those thieving fecks are gonna be charging me money to drive .... oh they already do. Well more then ;) I'd love to use public transport to get to work, its just that there isnt a bus that leaves the front of my house and stops in the work car park is there??? I dont think this would happen. Imagine how many votes that group would get at the next election. "Oh yeah I remember you, you're that tw4t that introduced road tolls. Comeon lads lets give im a kicking!!"
Dave
Don't get me going on public transport, if I wanted to get to work every morning I'd have to get a bus into the city centre (half an hour of gridlock) and then a train BACK OUT to the outskirts (another half hour) instead of a 12minute thrash on the back roads, I don't get it? Roads are congested Mr Blair? Here's an idea - if you spent more than £8 from every £1000 raised on ROAD TAX(that's a real figure!) and used it to improve the roads - took out bus lanes, 'traffic calming' etc and then maybe even shock horror some new roads/bypass etc so that the traffic would move better things would not be so bad. Bullying us onto some ****e bus or backroad will help no-one. Rant over, sorry guys it needed saying.
It makes me sad, and embaressed to be British, when our government is such a bunch of incompetent, greedy, power crazed, out of touch w*nkers. :(
Didn't they get the hint when the petrol crisis happened - we've had enough of being taxed on our cars, when there is no viable alternative for most people!
If they stopped paying benefits to all the pikey bl**dy asylum seekers there might be enough cash to fix up the roads, fix teh health service, and shoot Tony Blair into outer space on a f**king big rocket :mad:
Where does my local MP live? I've heard you can hire a Russian hitman to fly over and kneecap someone for under £400....
Please send me any donation cheques, made payable to 'The Kneecap The B*stard Government Transport Department W*nkers Campaign'
Heheh I bet the labour party wouldn't like to read this page. I agree with you lot, it isn't good and it's one of the reasons I plan to leave the country in a couple of years.
Of course, I refuse to think that between us we couldn't circumvent any scheme they come up with, you'll just have to get black market reverse engineered transponders to avoid the tolls...
Tricky-Ricky
01-03-2002, 01:03
I have said this before, and i'l keep saying it! they should fecking well pay me! to use the roads around here!! :mad: or buy me a 4X4!! :eek:
Another point to ponder, will this be a new law that only affects those outside of Parliament, a bit like spped limits and drink driving laws?
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