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tim rome
20-06-2004, 18:28
there wont be anyone left soon, theyre dropping like s13's
PMSL :D
Nearly all the race has been conducted from behind the safety car. :rolleyes:
The front of Ralph's walrus looks much improved :)
How did Schumacher stay in front of the BAR's when he made his pitstop under the safety car?? i don't understand how he could have :confused:
CraZyMoFo
20-06-2004, 20:03
I'm sure he overtook ruben before the start/finish line ....... but he won't get pulled up on it :rolleyes: ... it's golden boy himself :rant:
I'm sure he overtook ruben before the start/finish line ....... but he won't get pulled up on it :rolleyes: ... it's golden boy himself :rant:
Why are you sure of that? You think the computers lie?
PulsatingStar
20-06-2004, 20:09
Why are you sure of that? You think the computers lie?
Nope, but I recon it might have been alphabetical :wack:
CraZyMoFo
20-06-2004, 20:10
they have got it wrong before ......
To be honest, I cant' stand M Schumacher. ....Won't be intervied by anyone but the Germans ?? ...what a w4nker. Just my humble opinion of course. :indiff:
christopher
20-06-2004, 20:38
computers never lie. :smash:
Method0ne
21-06-2004, 01:08
The computers didnt lie.. As they crossed the line, it showed Schumacher in first position, and both of the replays they showed that listed driver position at the bottom of the screen had Schumacher in first position, but blatantly nothing going to be said or done about it.
And then there was his incident of cutting straight across the nose of Barrichello (sp?), causing him to slow down to avoid taking them both out, to which the Ferrarri team responded with words to the effect of "Oi, Barrichello, you're supposed to be the bitch, stop trying to make him look as bad as he really is and let him win some more".
Again Montoya got shafted as well, taking race control over 50 laps to point out that he'd done something (apparently) naughty that meant he got a black flag for some screwed up reason, pointless imo since he couldn't have gotten any better than 8th or 9th position anyways by the finish of the race.
Oh, and did anyone spot Sato stealing Jensens' engine before the race? because for once, Button had to come in before the car died, while Sato managed to stay out there and get a podium finish.
Also V. unimpressed with the safety side of things at that track, took them two laps after the incident to actually get a safety team to Ralphs car, not to mention a stupidly long time to get him sorted out, and what the hell was the ambulance doing driving right round the track? it shoulda pulled into the end of the pitlane and cut through to the paddock area.. also, the safety car iteslf leading all the cars through the abundance of wreckage left behind during the crash was a stupid decision, it should have led them through the pitlane til the mess was sorted out, not made them drive through it.
Oh well, at least it beats the football..
I thought it was a great overtaking move by schummy, one of the best of the year and won him the race. Barichello was only quicker than schummy for the first few laps out of the pits because of the fresh rubber. Apart from that schummy had him beat as usual.
As for schummy's tactic of going for striaght line speed instead of handling for the section where you can fend off others, how could the others be so silly? The straight is the only sensible place to overtake anyway so schummy just made it almost impossible for anyone to overtake him - great tactic. All the others were too concerned with qualifying pace and schummy was happy to sacrifice qualifying pace to have the better race setup, allowing him to win once again.
When are the others going to up their game? Apart from Raikonen, alonso, and maybe now sato (possibly button) no-one is even close to being in the same league as him. He's walking away with it and the others only have themselfs to blame IMO.
Great start for alonso and great race by Sato BTW.
Dunc.
The computers didnt lie.. As they crossed the line, it showed Schumacher in first position, and both of the replays they showed that listed driver position at the bottom of the screen had Schumacher in first position, but blatantly nothing going to be said or done about it.
The commentators said that Barrichello had come up on their screens as the leader.
When are the others going to up their game? Apart from Raikonen, alonso, and maybe now sato (possibly button) no-one is even close to being in the same league as him. He's walking away with it and the others only have themselfs to blame IMO.
Great start for alonso and great race by Sato BTW.
Dunc.
Raikonnen? You're having a laugh right?! ;)
Sato is the man, and Alonso's start was like what I do in computer games, straight down the outside :)
Raikonnen? You're having a laugh right?! ;)
Car permitting of course :D :smash: :smash:
CraZyMoFo
21-06-2004, 10:21
Sato is such a nice bloke. Me & Kuddy went to the Silverstone practice day a couple of weeks ago & ended up having lunch with him.
It was ace :nod:
Infinity
21-06-2004, 12:30
Sato drove a very mature race IMO. He showed that he can mix it with the best of them :nod: Had B.A.R not stuffed up the strategy I reckon he would have given the Ferraris a run for their money.
Also love the way he doesn't care about people's reputations on the track - evryone is fair game. F1 needs more drivers like Sato, to spice things up :nod;
The race stewards were rubbish as far as dealing with Ralphs accident. They should have run the cars through the pit lane, as Marting Brundle said. Bit stupid making them run over all the debris.
Good to see Minardi getting a point, even if it was by default (as it were)...
Jut
Method0ne
21-06-2004, 15:43
The commentators said that Barrichello had come up on their screens as the leader.
They must have been looking at different screens to everyone else that was watching the race then.
Like I said though, tis irrelevant since they aint gonna do a damn thing about it, but everyone who was watching the live coverage will have seen the initial incident (which showed Schumacher in first over the line) and probably seen the same two replays I did that had the positions listed at the bottom of the screen, which funnily enough also showed Schumacher in first.
*shrug*
PulsatingStar
21-06-2004, 15:49
Yup is did say Schumacher on the screen first as they croseed the line. If I was Barrichello, I would of blended off the throttle anyway once I saw him that close :p
F1 restarts are pants...
Yup is did say Schumacher on the screen first as they croseed the line. If I was Barrichello, I would of blended off the throttle anyway once I saw him that close :p
F1 restarts are pants...
Purely because the camera was on him, it had nothing to do with positions. Like when ralph crashed and they thought it was Baumgartner - it said his name on the bottom then. It's just it IDing whatever car the camera is trained on. it was nothing to do with positions.
CraZyMoFo
21-06-2004, 15:55
Yup is did say Schumacher on the screen first as they croseed the line. If I was Barrichello, I would of blended off the throttle anyway once I saw him that close :p
F1 restarts are pants...
My thought exactly ........ but how dare he do something like that which would lead to Scumacher (froidian slip ;)) geting a drive through penalty :wave:
CraZyMoFo
21-06-2004, 15:56
Purely because the camera was on him, it had nothing to do with positions. Like when ralph crashed and they thought it was Baumgartner - it said his name on the bottom then. It's just it IDing whatever car the camera is trained on. it was nothing to do with positions.
I don't think so because initially it said Baumgardner on the id at the bottom .... then it changed to Ralph...... but then ... computers never lie ;) :smash:
I'm not going to argue such a silly point but what if it did say schumacher was in first, surely the rules says he's not aloud to have overtaken him before the start/finish line. Being exactly along side barrichello (as accurately as the timing gear can judge it) therefore he has not overtaken him.
These folk who think that schummy wins all the time because he's lucky and the FIA let him off with things and he always get's a better car than barichello etc etc piss me off. One of these days you're going to have to face the music and accept that he wins because he is better than the others - pure and simple.
Dunc.
They checked the footage, he was very lucky, they both crossed the line @ the same time to 2.d.p. but the camera showed Rubino infront by a 1/999th of a mm ... so Scum-aker judged it perfectly.
I hate the German Arse ... but feck me he IS VERY FAST, and VERY talented .. but its time for him to start getting beaten soon .. Come on JB/Sato .. pull yer finger out. McLaren and Williams have been a bit :ghey: this year ... but with luck the reds rule will end soon.
BAR
Williams
McLaren
Toyota
Renalult
All these Teams have the CAPABILITY to win championships in the next few years. Lets hope its close :D
F1 is STILL the pinicle of motorsport .. and will never be as close as single-car/engine events. F3, F3000, Form Renault, FF, CART .....
AshT_200
21-06-2004, 17:32
Unfortunately for the sport, Schumacher IS in a leaugue of his own. There simply isn't the competition there used to be. Williams were once competitive, but their team strategy of replacing every successful driver who wins them a world title simply fcuks up their chances of being consistent.
The sport will become more enjoyable to watch when there is more competition, but I don't see that happening in the near future.
CraZyMoFo
22-06-2004, 08:34
I'm not going to argue such a silly point but what if it did say schumacher was in first, surely the rules says he's not aloud to have overtaken him before the start/finish line. Being exactly along side barrichello (as accurately as the timing gear can judge it) therefore he has not overtaken him.
These folk who think that schummy wins all the time because he's lucky and the FIA let him off with things and he always get's a better car than barichello etc etc piss me off. One of these days you're going to have to face the music and accept that he wins because he is better than the others - pure and simple.
Dunc.
Don't get me wrong ..... I know he's a fantastic driver ....... you can't win that many races on luck alone. I just think he does get let off for things that others would get pull up on. & I personally think he's a w4nker ... just my humble opinion. You don't get Sato only being interviewd by Japanese press do you ... :rolleyes:
I agree. Schumacher is a very talented driver, but lately he even gets 'gifts' from the FIA during the race. During starts they're only allowed to leave their racing lines once to block another driver. But Scummy is swerving all over the startstraight like a drunken monkey....
What has been mentionend before: the safety.
allmost 2 minutes to reach Ralf??? That's insane, he was in front of the friggin' pitlane. And no-one jumped the fence to help him, you could clearly see some marshalls just standing there looking like they saw crap cycling up the street.
And the Safety Car should have led the field through the pitlane.
The reason that the ambulance ran the full round of the circuit, has to do with the American regulations that is is forbidden to drive anywhere on the circuit in opposite direction. Because the pitlane was open for F1 cars, if the ambulance turned into the pitlane in opposite directions, imagine what would happen if a F1 car was coming down the pitlane after his pitstop :eek:
But nevertheless, it was an interesting race to watch, and YAAAAYYY, Go Sato. He's deffo my fave!!! :notworthy
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