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ilovelag
19-06-2004, 15:50
just wondering what package that people are using to design their pages?
what is the easiest to use??

how hard is it to have a website as complex and apexperformance's? because that is a brilliant site.

sroberts
19-06-2004, 15:52
Thats an off the shelf php shopping cart that is free to download.

Alot of people use the likes of dreamweaver/go-live etc that are very easy to use and get to grips with.

ilovelag
19-06-2004, 15:58
where can i get any of these from?

sroberts
19-06-2004, 15:59
You can download demos from macromedia.com and adobe.com :D

Gary
19-06-2004, 15:59
Dreamweaver can be downloaded as a trial from macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com) and to be fair, it's a good bit of software, used it day in and day out at my last job.

Daniel san
19-06-2004, 16:37
Si what did you use to do ours in the end? Coldfusion or something wasn't it? I know you let me have a look at it one day and it went straight over my head :eek:

sroberts
19-06-2004, 16:44
Coldfusion Stuido, but only used as a text editor :D

cherry1809
19-06-2004, 16:48
I used Freewebs,very basic but it's OK.

Aitch
19-06-2004, 17:00
I use Dreamweaver MX :thumbs:

Bayside Blue
19-06-2004, 17:03
dreamweaver MX is great :thumbs:

www.oneandone.co.uk (http://www.oneandone.co.uk ) have an easy website creator with all their packages that you use online which is really easy to use too.

Martin :thumbs:

ScoobyDoo
19-06-2004, 17:47
Im waiting for someone to claim notepad....

Frontpage isnt to bad for starting out, especially if you're used to the MS family.

infinite_loon
19-06-2004, 17:51
I do it for a living and you can't go better than Dreamweaver MX.

It incorporates all the tools from the previous best package which was called Homesite.

s13silvia
19-06-2004, 17:57
I cant believe all these guys gettin payed for it :\ ... no fair,
up here there are no jobs like this.... Ive done this shit for 6-7 years, long enough given alot i was near 14-24 hours a day doin it..... do flash, dream, etc. and 3d design etc. aswell (doin that for longer).... and cant get a job... im working in a takeaway, cooking cleaning serving, money managment, for what, 4 stinkin quid an hour :( :( :cry:
I cant even do freelance, as no-one up ere wants it :mad:
damnit




sorry for more mindless ramblings

ScoobyDoo
19-06-2004, 18:13
I cant even do freelance, as no-one up ere wants it :mad:
damnit

:( have you got a portfolio together? Perhaps offering a couple of local charities a freebie web site just to put a collection together would help sell your services.

Hope you find something soon. (by the way has that takeaway got a website? convince the owner :thumbs: )

Gary
19-06-2004, 18:26
:( have you got a portfolio together? Perhaps offering a couple of local charities a freebie web site just to put a collection together would help sell your services.

Hope you find something soon. (by the way has that takeaway got a website? convince the owner :thumbs: )

Thats good advice, it worked for me.... :)

Leon
19-06-2004, 22:59
I cant believe all these guys gettin payed for it :\ ... no fair,
up here there are no jobs like this.... Ive done this shit for 6-7 years, long enough given alot i was near 14-24 hours a day doin it..... do flash, dream, etc. and 3d design etc. aswell (doin that for longer).... and cant get a job... im working in a takeaway, cooking cleaning serving, money managment, for what, 4 stinkin quid an hour :( :( :cry:
I cant even do freelance, as no-one up ere wants it :mad:
damnit




sorry for more mindless ramblings


Any chance of seeing some of your stuff? Would appreciated any Links PM'ed over.

I use Dreamweaver MX

Previous to that a mixture of Frontpage and Spider.

Prior to that, HotMetal and/or Word :eek:

s13silvia
19-06-2004, 23:56
yeh sure thing dude.... thing is ive never really finished anythin :P haha... before i finish i get bored and start suttin else haha...... ill finish my webpage off and put it up ere or pm it to you in a couple o days eh
Cheers for the ideas guys

SX Me Up
20-06-2004, 00:15
Notepad and a quick trip to http://www.htmlgoodies.com

I've never used a program other than Notepad to do my HTML, self coding it is easy, the HTML tag system is the most logical thing going. I think stuff like Dreamweaver overcomplicates it all plus the amount of un-needed stuff you get in the HTML code is mad.

The Artist
20-06-2004, 00:20
Well I use Serif products for DTP so thought I would use them fro web page. VERY easy to use but some say the code looks messy etc. But you could not get easier :no:

Got Dreamweaver at work not really got into it yet

Aitch
20-06-2004, 00:45
Frontpage isnt to bad for starting out, especially if you're used to the MS family.
No it isn't - it is a dreadful programme, fatally flawed and has nothing to redeem itself. :hurl:

ScoobyDoo
20-06-2004, 00:53
No it isn't - it is a dreadful programme, fatally flawed and has nothing to redeem itself. :hurl:

Im not comparing it in anyway to Dreamweaver (which I use) but it is easy to use and does feel like every other MS product.

Aitch
20-06-2004, 01:01
Im not comparing it in anywarontpage, to Dreamweaver (which I use) but it is easy to use and does feel like every other MS product.
I used Dreamweaver before Frontpage, and as a result, I would always advise against even so much as looking at Frontpage, never mind actually using it. I like most MS applications, but Frontpage should be avoided like an Ethiopian transexual. :indiff:

Daniel san
20-06-2004, 08:49
I used Frontpage to do the first SXOC site, which I thought was ok coming from someone who knew nowt about it and self tought over a few months or so. I thought FP was ok, allows some reasonably flashy things.........

Until Si came along and showed me what a proper web page looked like as he was doing the now SXOC site. Needless to say I felt completely crap:D

Rude Dog
20-06-2004, 08:55
I should have If Leon ever finishes it :rolleyes: :D

Daniel san
20-06-2004, 08:57
ilovelag, sorry, bit of a :Plug: mate, but have a look at these if you wanna see decent looking sites.

www.srbpower.com
www.gpsportsuk.com
www.sxoc.com
www.lucylayton.com
www.web-blinds.com

:notworthy

Rude Dog
20-06-2004, 08:58
LOL, big time :Plug: on the first one eh ;) :D

ScoobyDoo
20-06-2004, 10:03
I used Frontpage to do the first SXOC site

A trip down memory lane, sadly not all is archived

http://web.archive.org/web/20020524130514/http://www.sxoc.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/20021106102604/http://www.sxoc.com/index.html

seb
20-06-2004, 10:24
I do it for a living and you can't go better than Dreamweaver MX.

Well you can, Dreamweaver is shite. As ScoobyDoo said, notepad is a better tool. An advanced text editor is best - HomeSite+ is my favourtie at the moment.

But this thread is for someone with no experience, and Dreamweaver is the best WYSI (nearly) WYG website creator so it gets a :thumbs: from me.

seb
20-06-2004, 10:26
No it isn't - it is a dreadful programme, fatally flawed and has nothing to redeem itself. :hurl:

:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

sroberts
20-06-2004, 10:39
When ever we interview anyone, they have to use notepad in the interview :D :whip:

sroberts
20-06-2004, 10:41
WYSI editor :rolleyes: we've just built one using ASP.net/JS so a customer can design there pages online in the admin tool :D

silviagod
20-06-2004, 10:46
I used frontpage for mine and I am trying to learn dreamweaver. I have even been lent the book Dreamweaver for Dummies. I just need to find the time to open it and have a look. :eek:
That statement from my school report still haunts me "Paul has the ability but does not apply himself" :D

seb
20-06-2004, 10:52
When ever we interview anyone, they have to use notepad in the interview :D :whip:

Man I'd rock in your interview - gissus a job, bored of my current one :)

sroberts
20-06-2004, 11:06
Whats your portfollio like?

seb
20-06-2004, 11:12
Whats your portfollio like?

I wasn't 100% serious... :)

My portfolio is crap really, only worked on three projects since I started this job. 1 has gone bankrupt so the site has been taken down, another are being awkward buggers so the half finished site has been put on hold, and the third has taken up 90% of my time since I started this job and STILL isn't finished due to horrendous complexities and the client changing his mind and not having a clue! My boss says it's the worst client he's ever dealt with, this should have been a 2 month project and I've been on it for a year now - nothing like that to kill your confidence!

Before I started the job I coded www.raceshoot.com and www.middleburn.co.uk - but I've come a long way since those two efforts! I'm a CSS-don, and after 16 months of it I guess I must be pretty good at ASP/SQL by now. Not had a chance to learn .NET yet, really want to. My weakest link is javascript, I hate it and avoid like the plague, only using when absolutely necessary!

sroberts
20-06-2004, 11:18
No problem mate, allways on the look out for the best. Be interviewing now for past two weeks. We have interviewed 46 people, all have been :down:

seb
20-06-2004, 11:21
No problem mate, allways on the look out for the best. Be interviewing now for past two weeks. We have interviewed 46 people, all have been :down:

I code everything to XHTML1.1 = the best :)

Got a link to your site? Whereabouts are you based? Green-interactive.com is it?

Leon
20-06-2004, 12:06
I should have If Leon ever finishes it :rolleyes: :D

sorry :cry: :cry: :cry:
I'll try to be better behaved, tho having 2 jobs makes things difficult :cry:
and stress don't help :cry:

Sorry fella I'll get back to it ASAP.

Which reminds me - have you sorted out any photos for me to work with yet?

Aitch
20-06-2004, 12:29
That statement from my school report still haunts me "Paul has the ability but does not apply himself" :D
My school reports all said exactly the same. Well, not exactly because I'm not called Paul. My geography report went along the lines of "Aitch couldn't find his arse with both hands, so why he chose geography as a GCSE option is beyond me". :D