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John Bennett
15-06-2004, 18:48
Bloody hell, starting to feel dizzy now :( .

I enjoy the odd bit of computer programming and I'm not too bad at it, but I've noticed that it really stresses me out (to the point of nausea). Does this happen to any of you other programmers? Maybe it's just trying to do it in a noisy laboratory :annoyed: .

Sort of glad I didn't make this my proper career.

Dave_S
15-06-2004, 19:20
Bloody hell, starting to feel dizzy now :( .

I enjoy the odd bit of computer programming and I'm not too bad at it, but I've noticed that it really stresses me out (to the point of nausea). Does this happen to any of you other programmers? Maybe it's just trying to do it in a noisy laboratory :annoyed: .

Sort of glad I didn't make this my proper career.

No not really, I stick my headphones on, get in the zone and code for england :D

I find it quite good fun actually :)

Dave

seb
15-06-2004, 19:27
I'll have days (like today) where it all goes pretty well and it's actually enjoyable. On the other hand I have days where I just can't concentrate and don't understand my code and get **** all done! They're the stressful ones.

What worries me is coming across a bit of code that I don't remember coding for the life of me, though clearly I did, often just the day before :)

Ant
15-06-2004, 19:34
I did a bit of VB and Java a few years ago - forgotten it all now, but I used to enjoy it! :)

Bayside Blue
15-06-2004, 19:40
the FAS are trying to program a digital human (http://www.fas.org/resource/05242004121456.pdf) lol needless to say i reckon they are getting very stressed because of it's complexity, they say there doing it for peaceful medical reasons but i reckon their just use it to do research biological weapons and then test the effects on this digital human :no:

more info here (http://www.fas.org/main/content.jsp?formAction=297&contentId=68)

John Bennett
15-06-2004, 19:41
Oh, I enjoy it, it's just that it seems to require 110% of my concentration and that knacks me up after a while. Would never be able to do it with music on :eek: .

Added challenge here is that I've got to simultaneously write the code for a DSP and the PC interfacing to it. 2 monitors of source code (& an oscilloscope) gets confusing.
Reverse-engineering my messy old code is usually a nightmare.

GrahamB
15-06-2004, 19:45
You want to try developing a 'live' system then :eek:

If I make one mistake I piss off about 30 users instantly :eek:

Very stressful as I'm the only one doing the development so I have to see to every system stage :(

I enjoy it when its going well, but it can't half get bloody stressful when you have 10 users who all wanted their answer yesterday and you know its going to take you 2 days to do it :cry:

fro
15-06-2004, 19:48
I'm trying to re-write some of the worst code ever written (Oracle EBS, written by 1000 monkeys with 1000 typewriters). I get in at 8am and work solidly through 'til 6pm every day (need to cram 6 months work into 6 weeks)
Needless to say, I'm a bit stressed. Wouldn't care if it were winter but in this weather the last place I want to be is sat at a desk trying to figure out ill written moronic code :mad:
Programming sucks.

Jez
15-06-2004, 20:08
I love bodging VB :wack: works fine so long as you're me and don't click on anything I didn't expect you to click on. On wrong move and you're out... ;)

Dave_S
15-06-2004, 20:25
I love bodging VB :wack: works fine so long as you're me and don't click on anything I didn't expect you to click on. On wrong move and you're out... ;)

PMSL :D :D :D

I do get stressed sometimes and when that happens, stand up, walk away for 2 minutes, it'll suddenly drop into place :)

Dave

Mint_Sauce
15-06-2004, 20:31
lol, same here. I'm totally self taught from the amiga days and have horrendous habits. I write code in one long list, none of that "blocks of code" stuff I hear about! :D Needless to say if I come back to it after a few days I can forget trying to continue as none of it makes any sense! :D Managed to make 2 programs years ago using VB and databases, haven't made anything since though. :(

John Bennett
15-06-2004, 20:32
So as well as VB and Oracle EBS :wack:, what other languages are you all using then?

C :) ,
assembler :) ,
and VHDL :annoyed: here.

Oh and Graham, that sounds like hell (bad enough with 24 hours to sort it before the customer/user arrives, but to have them there all the time :eek: )

Dave_S
15-06-2004, 20:34
I'm currently dabbling in ..

VBScript
Java / Javascript
SQL
ASP/ASP.NET

But have in my time programmed in ...

BBC Basic
Vbasica
GWBasic
Visual Basic for Dos / Windows
Pascal
C
C++
Borland Turbo Assembler
Microsoft ASM
Batch Scripting

Co-incidentally I'm currently installing MS Visual Studio .NET 2003 :wack:

Dave

Codemonkey
15-06-2004, 22:22
I get well furious with coding sometimes - but not directly at the coding. DVD Emulators crap out, debuggers take 3-4 minutes to load the symbols, then crash, PS2 IOP crashes so you can't connect a debugger to the devkit.... in't games development brilliant!

I reckon I was better off health-wise when I was smoking - cos every hour I'd sod off outside for a smoke, and once you've walked away you can calm down.

Wouldn't give it up for the world though :D

GrahamB
15-06-2004, 23:20
I reckon I was better off health-wise when I was smoking - cos every hour I'd sod off outside for a smoke, and once you've walked away you can calm down.

Its weird that, I always find that I get my best inspiration when I'm nowhere near a PC, a notepad and pen or when I'm typically wandering round the Tate Modern in my lunch hour :wack:

Pascal PML :D:D:D:D:D

Who the fook uses that ????? LOL spent years at school and uni using it only to find that its only schools and uni's that use it :D:D:D:D

I use TSQL and VBA mainly as I use Access as the FE for the databases I write and SQL Server 2k for the BE. (not particularly pretty or efficient, but it lets the users do their own fooking queries without them having to know SQL and without them having to pester me even more than they already do :annoyed: )

F.Rizzo
15-06-2004, 23:27
It's not just you m8 :annoyed:

Are all SX owners programmers? lol :eek:

Leon
15-06-2004, 23:31
the FAS are trying to program a digital human (http://www.fas.org/resource/05242004121456.pdf) lol needless to say i reckon they are getting very stressed because of it's complexity,

I'd have thought it would be fairly easy.
Just model it on a chav.

Basic digestion processes to deal with big macs. basic sketetal structure to deal with thick gold chain. basical cranial structure to deal with burberry baseball cap.
and a nova.

There! nobel peace prize for me I think. :nod:

TomM
15-06-2004, 23:31
the FAS are trying to program a digital human (http://www.fas.org/resource/05242004121456.pdf) lol needless to say i reckon they are getting very stressed because of it's complexity, they say there doing it for peaceful medical reasons but i reckon their just use it to do research biological weapons and then test the effects on this digital human :no:

I remember starting to try and simulate the hormonal systems of a human being using VB years ago. :wack: The idea was that once I'd got the basic relationships between the major systems figured out, you could play with all of the various parameters and watch the effects. :rolleyes: :wack:


Needless to say, I didn't get very far :indiff: :D

Codemonkey
15-06-2004, 23:33
I remember starting to try and simulate the hormonal systems of a human being using VB years ago. :wack: The idea was that once I'd got the basic relationships between the major systems figured out, you could play with all of the various parameters and watch the effects. :rolleyes: :wack:


Needless to say, I didn't get very far :indiff: :D

That's cos VB is shit mate. I feel dirty just looking at VB "code".

:wack:

John Bennett
15-06-2004, 23:44
You tried Borland C++ Builder?
Now that's dirty programming (but fantastic, as you can bodge up something in a day that would take a real programmer weeks in Microsoft Visual C++).

Codemonkey
15-06-2004, 23:47
No, haven't tried that. All I've used (apart from my old bbc and amiga days) is Codewarrior, VC 6 and VS .NET)

John Bennett
15-06-2004, 23:52
C++ Builder is great if you know nothing about Windows programming (like me). You can drag and drop almost anything: buttons, boxes, timers, memos, even a Media Player window :cool: .

Mint_Sauce
16-06-2004, 00:58
lol, that's why I liked VB so much cos it's fun coding. You can knock something up that looks ok without being a proper coder :D

Dave_S
16-06-2004, 07:49
Pascal PML :D:D:D:D:D

Who the fook uses that ????? LOL spent years at school and uni using it only to find that its only schools and uni's that use it :D:D:D:D

Yep :D

Used it at college, they used it to step you up to structured programming (C)

Dave

Cath
16-06-2004, 08:38
Only when i over work myself and don't take a break from the computer all day.

SAS programs is what we normally churn out best for Mecial Research.

At the moment i have one study that a huge arse. Started on Monday with only myself assigned and 35 far to cpmplex - way above my head progs to get done and dusted before the end of June. Well its Wednesday morning and i know i only have 8 left to do when i arrive in :wack: :D

How the hell i done so well god only knows but i do know i worked my arse off. My boss, client etc have praised how well the programming department have done, not realising there has only been me on my own working on em :(

Ho hum - if there was a nother job i would take it tho :nod:

Dave_S
16-06-2004, 08:54
How the hell i done so well god only knows but i do know i worked my arse off. My boss, client etc have praised how well the programming department have done, not realising there has only been me on my own working on em :(

Ho hum - if there was a nother job i would take it tho :nod:

Thats sounds like a situation for subtle hint dropping!

Well done :)

Dave

seb
16-06-2004, 09:50
Programming history:

Qbasic
BBC Basic
Pascal
Visual Basic
Visual C++
Assembler
PHP

not used any of the above for a couple of years now though, these days I'm a javascript / html / css / asp / mssql whore :cry:

gaz.thomas
16-06-2004, 10:08
I'm a BA rather than a code monkey but have furtled around with java, ejb, c++, vb, pl/sql, perl and .net in the past.
And yes - I get very stressed with programmers :nod: - especially the ones that come out with things like "Did you want ctrl+c to perform a copy operation then?"

BTW - there's a fairly successful OSS software company producing telecom planning code entirely written in Delphi - so mock Pascal at your peril...I even know people using ADA in a commercial environment :eek:

Gaz
-x-

ATrull
16-06-2004, 10:20
I quite enjoy perl and shell scripting under unix ;)

but I preffer to program by example rather than learn lots of (pointless) stuff. Programming is just a small part of what Sysadmins do. :)

docwra
16-06-2004, 10:21
At the moment i have one huge arse.



Sorry I couldnt resist it :wack:

My last IT job they were still using assembler and ada for "bleeding edge products" :eek:

Then the two blokes that could actually write in assembler and ada left. That was a problem ........... :eek:

John Bennett
16-06-2004, 10:57
Assembler's great when writing for microcontrollers, when you need every last drop of performance out of the device.
However you'd have to be a total massochist to attempt use it on something as convoluted as a PC or complicated as a modern DSP . :wack:

Chavbo
16-06-2004, 11:59
aaaarrgh programming, pretty much the reason why i'm leaving my uni course after 2 years, could not get into it for the life of me :annoyed: used java mainly but that plus a combination of things makes me want to stab my eyes out with rusty nails :wack:

Cath
16-06-2004, 12:47
Well now i can say out of 35 i have 0 left to do :D when was that deadline........... end of june........ pah :D