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Paddymcc
14-06-2004, 16:41
What are these big coffin carriers like for drifting?
This on is manual and equipped with an LSD as standard and has full leather and electric seats etc
dorifter
14-06-2004, 17:32
how much is it .....there great fun ,drift/work/towing car
What kind of power does the 2.5 have? I should think it would be good for it.
Give it a go! :) 2nd gear stuff would certainly be lubbly jubbly.
Paddymcc
14-06-2004, 23:28
Dont ave a clue about the power but i had a look at her today at the auctions.
Its going for around £900 but im going to offer him £600 and see what that will get me.
Shes mint with only a couple of scrapes and not a single dent on her. The interior is also mint. Could be a good one.
Have to wait until the auctions now on Wednesday night to bid on her.
If you're buying it JUST for drifting, you can get other uberbarges for that sort of money that will do the job better, I'm sure.
I've got an ex-police Senator arriving today that I'm picking up for £250...wooo! :wack:
What reg is this volvo? I assume its pretty old if its still RWD?
Cheers,
Dunc.
960 is the last of the big boxy ones I think, so it would be mid 90s I guess?
I believe the 960 is 2.8 (2.9?) using the PRV V6.
I've seen someone drift a 740 turbo out of a T-junction before, well kinda. Could be a bit of fun. I believe the 960s are IRS, I think the old 740 was live rear axle. Actually not sure now, the 960 could still be live rear for all I know. Probably a bit clumsy but should be driftable.
Paddymcc
15-06-2004, 09:24
Its 94/95
Ok, I was wrong, it's a 2.5 I6 apparently, IRS, LSD, maybe 201 hp ? Sounds eminently driftable.
Paddymcc
16-06-2004, 20:46
Ok, I was wrong, it's a 2.5 I6 apparently, IRS, LSD, maybe 201 hp ? Sounds eminently driftable.
What is IRS?
IRS = independent rear suspension.
Older FR Volvos had a live rear axle, the 960 has an independent rear. American pony cars like the Camaro and Mustang have live rear axles (usually), as does the AE86 and the Ferrari 250GTO. One of the nice things about the Silvias / 200SX's is that they are one of the few cheap FR cars with IRS.
Having said that, live rear axle is fine on smooth roads, IRS is better at dealing with bumps because there's less mass bumping up and down (the diff is fixed to the body, rather than the axle as in a live rear axle.
Paddymcc
17-06-2004, 12:49
IRS = independent rear suspension.
Older FR Volvos had a live rear axle, the 960 has an independent rear. American pony cars like the Camaro and Mustang have live rear axles (usually), as does the AE86 and the Ferrari 250GTO. One of the nice things about the Silvias / 200SX's is that they are one of the few cheap FR cars with IRS.
Having said that, live rear axle is fine on smooth roads, IRS is better at dealing with bumps because there's less mass bumping up and down (the diff is fixed to the body, rather than the axle as in a live rear axle.
Better then for drifting i take it?
In theory live rear axle should be fine for drift, as long as the surface is fairly smooth it shouldn't matter. In practice I've heard that Camaros and Mustangs, for instance, don't drift that smoothly because of the rear axle shifting about. Seems strange to me, just hearsay. Anyway the AE86 is famous for drift, and that has a live rear axle.
The 180SX's IRS, otoh, is especially good for drifting since under squat (hard acceleration) the camber goes negative, which (beyond a certain point) reduces the tyres' grip since they are no longer flat on the ground. So it promotes drifting. Yes the S13/S14 chassis has an unfair advantage :)
S13 Gimp
23-06-2004, 14:08
Yeah 9 series volvo is RWD IRS badboy. should be fun, but I imagine you will be drawing sparks from the doorhandles when you drift it, as I dont think they were built with stiff suspention and handling in mind.
I prefer live rear axle. not as nice to change a diff on but I like the basic agricultural feel of it :D whats best for going round corners ain't always
best for going sideways round corners. Take the 84> Corvettes for instance... :D
-Gimpage-
PS. Aston is your senator 24 valve? if you get one that has been played with (from back in the days when the cops used to bother souping thier sh*t)
chances are its LSD equipped and may even have bilstein dampers and a chipped ECU or some shit, and will be basic as f*ck on the rest of the spec :D
The 180SX's IRS, otoh, is especially good for drifting since under squat (hard acceleration) the camber goes negative,
In that case 2WD saffy cossies would be the drift daddies as they swat right down and scrape their exhausts under acceleration :D :D
In that case 2WD saffy cossies would be the drift daddies as they swat right down and scrape their exhausts under acceleration :D :D
Yeah, but it's not as simple as that; it's not just a matter of how far down the back squats, but more how much the angle (camber) of the rear wheels changes as a result of the squat. With a parallel-wishbone or live axle rear suspension, the camber won't change at all, no matter how far it squats. I believe the SX's IRS causes particular camber change under squat. Just what I've read though.
PS. Aston is your senator 24 valve? if you get one that has been played with (from back in the days when the cops used to bother souping thier sh*t)
chances are its LSD equipped and may even have bilstein dampers and a chipped ECU or some shit, and will be basic as f*ck on the rest of the spec :D
Yep, 24 valve complete with manual box and LSD, it's been specced for tons of gear in the boot so it has ROCK hard rear suspension. I mean literally, I can get in the boot with the handbrake off, jump up and down, and it hardly moves. Raawk and rooolllll. Front suspension is like a big jelly though, if it has billies they must be totally knackered. It needs a good service and de coke too, the dual ram isn't always opening up since it only really gets into it's stride occasionally. Now that it's off the road I can't actually test whether I've fixed it or not, either. Doh.
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