View Full Version : Anyone got a 3g phone?
TimmyTock
09-06-2004, 12:16
Just looking to get a new phone, has anyone got a 3G phone, any good?
Ive got the NEC606 on Three.
Great tarrif and service, but the phone is crap! Need an IQ of 600000 to use it and the battery just last about 12 hours with normal(ish) use.
TimmyTock
09-06-2004, 12:21
yeh, they're a bit big for what im looking for, 12 hours :eek: :eek: thats shocking!
Yeah, its huge!!!!!
Changing it for the diamond shaped Nokia next month though - the 7600 I think.
TimmyTock
09-06-2004, 12:37
ah, interesting look, wouldnt mind one of the touch screen ones, but i do a lot of texting, so using a normal key layout is quicker.
I wouldn't recommend a 3g phone to anyone. :)
ScoobyDoo
09-06-2004, 13:14
whats going to happen to 3G when Wifi is 90% coverage of the UK? I know its some time off but imagine having an IP phone :D
Proper data speeds!
i got the nokia 7600,
phones cool, not the most easy to use if you txt coz of the button layout.
has 30mb of storage on it, so loads of photo's and videos,
the photos are quite good quality, my sig pic was done with it!
three as a networks is a bit shit, just make sure your in a area that gets signal,
they work better in built up area's.
also 8 1/2 hours anytime to any network for £25 a month is safe!
mattpayne
09-06-2004, 14:17
My contract will be up next month, and Iwont be changing suppliers! :)
Ive an NEC 808y and im more than pleased with it... hes, its quite big, and yes it goes on charde most nights... but you do get hours of chat for not a lot of money :)
cool buy :thumbs:
they just bought out a new LG hand set i think
TimmyTock
09-06-2004, 17:19
why wouldnt you get one atrull?
i was looking at this phone, looks quite good, http://www.mobiles.co.uk/three-3g-nec-e616-3.html
mattpayne
09-06-2004, 22:25
id get the moto a395 :)
you should be able to score any of the phones on any tarff for free... also lots of companies are doing half price rental for x months too....
vodafone's releasing Video phones in the next month or so...
Shhhhhhhhhh that's sensitive information...don't pass it on ;)
TimmyTock
09-06-2004, 23:15
i thought you could use the phones as video phones already :confused: so i should wait for a month you reckon?
well 3 are the only people to have released video phones so far...all the main 4 networks are holding back to see how 3 fare (screw up) and then release their own video calling phones this year...you'll see vodafone's official release in october with the fan-fare and advertising, but it's actually going live in a few week's time!
launch phones are gonna be SE Z1010 and the Samsung Z105.
TimmyTock
09-06-2004, 23:18
o right, cool, thanks :d
skyline matt i cant find that moto model, do you have a link?
mattpayne
09-06-2004, 23:23
:) i meant 925! :)
linky
http://www.three.co.uk/explore/handsets/detail.omp
TimmyTock
09-06-2004, 23:27
ah yes, i like that one, but ive found texting is slower with touch screen phones, but it does look the nicest!!
as far as i can tell, that moto is kinda like my SE P900, i love my P900 - it's the dog's danglies...so i'm sure that moto would be cool too!
I have one of the NEC e606 phones with "3"
Absolute and total utter shite. If thats unclear, how about its a right load of toss :mad: Also "3" are keen to set new levels of incompetancy in customer service. Especially in the non speaky de english arena.
Main gripe is that I use it for work and am constantly unable to call any fooker without trying about 40 times and then always get cut off mid call :(
Used to use more than a 1000 minutes per month when on orange but max I use now is about 400. Wouldnt mind but I want to use more and pay for 750. And the bar stewards take 10 days to deliver new handsets :mad:
Someone said they get 12 hours of use? Use it a bit and it doesnt last till dinner.
Going back to orange very soon and happily paying through the nose for the privelidge :nod:
I really really do not like 3.
I have one of the NEC e606 phones with "3"
Absolute and total utter shite.
...
I really really do not like 3.
hence the
all the main 4 networks are holding back to see how 3 fare (screw up) and then release their own video calling phones this year.
:D :D :D
TimmyTock
09-06-2004, 23:39
blimey, the newer phones seem to have a longer battery life and are smaller.
If you're not on a 3g coverage area does it not just switch to normal signals or something?
mickstreet
09-06-2004, 23:40
I have one of the NEC e606 phones with "3"
Absolute and total utter shite. If thats unclear, how about its a right load of toss :mad: Also "3" are keen to set new levels of incompetancy in customer service. Especially in the non speaky de english arena.
Main gripe is that I use it for work and am constantly unable to call any fooker without trying about 40 times and then always get cut off mid call :(
Used to use more than a 1000 minutes per month when on orange but max I use now is about 400. Wouldnt mind but I want to use more and pay for 750. And the bar stewards take 10 days to deliver new handsets :mad:
Someone said they get 12 hours of use? Use it a bit and it doesnt last till dinner.
Going back to orange very soon and happily paying through the nose for the privelidge :nod:
I really really do not like 3.
Pretty much what was said on bbc the other day, think I'll be giving it a miss for a while. I was told that 3 use 02 network for standard voice calls but they have so many problems with connections??? doesn't seem to add up really.
yeah 3 is a "virtual network" in that it piggy-back's off O2 for a GSM connection (normal voice calls) and uses its own network for all the 3G stuff, which is why you don't have full UK coverage for that.
yeah 3 is a "virtual network" in that it piggy-back's off O2 for a GSM connection (normal voice calls) and uses its own network for all the 3G stuff, which is why you don't have full UK coverage for that.
I've even tried just switching the phone to 2g, to use just the O2 network, guess what :confused:
Still total shite :clap:
that's cos O2 are shite :)
only networks i'd consider at the moment are Vodafone (for obvious reasons) and Orange. T-Mobile and O2 are both a bit too Mickey Mouse for me.
But Vodafone offer poor tarriffs in my opinion. Orange and O2 offer free texts and more minutes than Voda. (up to 3,000 for £20 month with Orange :eek: or 500 texts, 200 anytime/any network for £30 month) :)
3G won't take off until business use it. That is where there is money to be made, and is the main flaw of the "3" network's business model. Wow, consumers can download a few video clips of a footballer scoring a goal...fantastic :rolleyes: ...cos I really needed to see that video clip right at that moment in time on a tiny screen, and pay through the nose for the priviledge.
Now, allow a business to tap into in own corporate network through VPN etc and the speed and accuracy of data recorded/accessed/reported is improved and employees are able to be more flexible by gaining access to corporate information on the move (think client/customer-facing). This improves customer service levels and shortens decision-making processes. This is where the money is for 3G - data services. :)
granted Vodafone aren't cheap, but they're reliable, with good customer service (i thank you) and when they do adopt a new technology (MMS for example) they usually do a good job of promoting it and encouraging people to use it.
and RE: bizniz use of 3G...
since those new 3G laptop cards have arrived in our shop we've sold LOADS of them, and we're not even in coverage :) so yeah, maybe 3 shoulda concentrated more on business customers like those who'd use a laptop card.
whats going to happen to 3G when Wifi is 90% coverage of the UK? I know its some time off but imagine having an IP phone :D
Proper data speeds!
you still have to pay for Wi Fi so if you can use a 3g card in your phone and use it *cough* anywhere then thet would be a better bet.
Trouble is only major cities and hotspots will have coverage to start with a bit like when GSM went live many moons ago. This basically means that in London you will have silly bandwidth to your handset then you get on the train holding your video conference and as soon as you are out of that area it will drop back to 2.5g or umts which has about 1/10 the bandwidth and your video conference will go a tad pearshaped!
The handsets hop back and forth from the 2.5g to wideband CDMA which is the 3g format.
We are already working on high speed 3g solutions with 2mb up and down from the handset. again this will only get rolled out to high concentration areas initially (in a few years yet).
I am inclined to give it a couple of years. Like all of these technologies they take a couple of years to filter down to leisure users, look at the first ever mobiles, only yuppies had em, now everyone (pretty much) has a mobile, the same will happen for 3g when they make the calls cheap enough and the services accesable to everyone. With the internet taking over peoples lives fully integrated solutions are demanded by progress.
There was an article about no one watching BBC anymore something like a drop of 40% viewers, a lot of this was attributed to internet and people just looking at news they were interested in on the web. There are so many ways for operators to make money with 3g phones it will have to go ahead and the prices must come down for the general population to want one.
If they get the pricing right, the technology will easily support it.
have fun
Steve
i've got the motorola A835 and si has the A920 (pda with touch screen)
tbh, my phone is alright but si's keeps crashing and he's had loads of problems with it... our contracts don't run out until xmas.....
there is an LG flip phone i've seen which is quite small, i think i'm gonna upgrade to that.....
i had the 808 clam shell for 2 weeks when we first got the phones and it didn't work and had so many faults which is why i then chaged to the a835
I'm looking for a phone at the moment and thought the NEC e313 looked like stupidly good value, especially if they can be unlocked from 3
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00020IM80/202-6839877-9946203
anyone got one of these and know about unlocking?
TimmyTock
10-06-2004, 11:26
si's keeps crashing and he's had loads of problems with it... our contracts don't run out until xmas.....
Damn, that phone looks like a winner to me. I think i'll still get one, as I will be mainly working in london anyway, tbh i'm not to worried about the services it offers, but would quite like a video camera functionility with a decent camera for taking pics with an mp3 player
Knowing 2 people that work at 3, and listening to their views I would never get a 3 phone :no:
3G will catch on, for business use as stated earlier, for normal users it's a novelty that soon wears off...
manic_mechanic
10-06-2004, 12:57
and RE: bizniz use of 3G...
since those new 3G laptop cards have arrived in our shop we've sold LOADS of them, and we're not even in coverage :) so yeah, maybe 3 shoulda concentrated more on business customers like those who'd use a laptop card.
Yes but the marketing people want to make adverts showing young hip people living a bling-bling lifestyle, not someone making good use of something! :wack:
Knowing 2 people that work at 3, and listening to their views I would never get a 3 phone :no:
3G will catch on, for business use as stated earlier, for normal users it's a novelty that soon wears off...
Like they said about text messaging, It will never catch on, "why would I want to type on a silly button when I can just ring my friends up..."
now it is I don't want to see anyone when I am talking to them.. it took about 10 years before people started texting like nutters, now the operators make more from texts than calls.
It will catch on eventually
/Steve
It will catch on eventually
I would say most people don't want to see other people - this is why BT have tried about 5-6 times to push videophones, and why you only tend to use videoconferencing in business situations where you have groups of people that can't physically meet...
It's also not the easiest thing to do - you have to be in a fairly quiet location, not moving and able to hold a phone at arms length, and concentrate on the piddly little screen and keeping the camera aimed properly...
3G will become the norm eventually, but I don't think videophones will be their 'killer app'...
As with past technologies (Video, DVD, Internet) it will probably be porn :thumbs:
when it doesn't cost 50p a min
oh and for anyone thinking about getting a three phone,
the nokia DOESN'T do the video calling!
just as well or i'd have 1 big bill!!!
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