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I've followed three Plod cars on the motorway in the last few weeks for 5miles+ each time and NONE of them indicated whilst changing lanes (in EITHER direction).
I thought that's what you were supposed to do whenever you make a lane change?
And I've noticed Plod has started to **** about in the middle lane at 60....
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I'd always understood that the principle of indicators is to pass along information to the other drivers about your manouvering intentions, in case they would be affected. Basically, it's a combination of safety and politeness.
This would mean that you don't HAVE to use them, unless you judge that the other drivers shoud be warned. So if Mr Plod was (say) 250 yds in front of you, it's a bit difference from him cutting in at about 20 yds. It would also mean that the type of people http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/mad.gif who criticize you for not (say) always giving two blinks before moving lanes are wrong (a personal hobby-horse http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif )
I've noticed that often you don't get drivers (inc. me) signalling back in (left) when they've just overtaken a slower vehicle (be it on the roads or the M/ways). This would hold up logically, as they wouldn't need to oconsider any evasive action - you're going faster, so are leaving them at a rate of whatever.
So to round up? It depends on the situation.
Maybe I'm wrong, just my two-pennyworth... http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif
RichardM
10-12-2001, 22:16
As I understand it, indication is not mandatory in this country.
Try not indicating in Germany for example, is another matter. There it is mandatory and you WILL get nicked if you don't.
Perhaps Lord Chief Justice Woolfe and Lord Irvine could do something worthwhile for a change and get the law ammended in this country, but I doubt it.
turbo pete
11-12-2001, 00:23
Yeah, i don't always indicate.
I find most peole are half asleep on the motorway. Drove 200 miles to london the other day and then back again. M1 all the way.
Here are my pet hates which i think are worse than peole who don't indicate.
1. People who sit in the middle lane.
What do you do. Do you go across all three lanes pass and move back? It really annoys me. If you flash your lights you invariably get one of two resultant actions. They don't see you. They give you abuse for flashing.
2. Drivers who stay in the second and third lane all the time. even when you come up behind them, flash lights, pull in, indicate pull out indicate etc...
I find that often if the outside lane is full there is often room to continue in the second lane. You undertake half a dozen cars to discover that the guy at the front is not overtaking anything. Then when you complete illegally undertaking they honk, flash lights and abuse you for undertaking.
I always hate to undertake, the cops would pull me and leave the idiots in the outside lane.
i am always careful to pass slowly when I am in the inside lane since some idiots then realising they should not be in the outside lane pull in and cut you up.
The first lane is safer to undertake in since you can have a clear look up the hard shoulder and if the toss bags pulll in youalways have somewhere to escape to.
Still it would be alot nicer if they just piggingn moved in the first place.
3. K***heads who have fog lights on. I don't mind it for the first few miles. God knows I am always knocking my switch without realising. ^foot and long legs means I often tap it on without realising. However, after a couple of miles I check my instruments, notice the light is on and switch it off. But these K**** are oblivious, even when you flash, turn your lights on and off, pass them and switch your fogs on and off...etc...
It makes me want to stop at the next service station and say, "Open your F****** eyes you idiot".
4. Peole whpo fail to follow the MSM, Mirror signal maneovre routine. Popular combinations include SM or signal manoevre. Or MMS manoevre, mirror and then signal. Thankyou for telling me you have just pulled out narrowly hitting my front bumper. Grrrr
5. Peole who fail to acknowledge with a wave of a hand or flash of the indicators the fact that I have just braked to allow them to pull out and avoid being baulked. They then invariably tend to hog the outside lane, slow down etc....
6. Peole who drive 3 feet off my bumper. They still don't get ot when you flash the brake light or do a 70 - 120 in 3 seconds to widen the gap when space permits.
7. People who drive with misaligned headlights or driving lights. They are nearly always Beemers and they invariably have uprated 3000Watt lights.
8. People who having overtaken a vehicle then proceed to dawdle in the outside lane as if there 3foot long micra car has the same proportions as an articulated truck and then indicate there intention to pull back in somewhere over the next few miles.
Thats only 8. anyone who points tis out to me will cause me to go off on another again.
Sorry guys, feeling a little stressed. I am calm again now.
I am sure many of you will agree though. I am not perfect but I am always happy to smile and wave acknowledgement of the fact when I am in the wrong.
Which reminds me -
9. I hate people who point out that you have made a mistake and then fail to acknowledge the fact you have accepted you are in the wrong, despite a smile and the look that means "****, sorry mate I ballsed that up". They invariably continue to rant and rave, curse, threaten you before driving off at a speed far in excess of what would be seemed safe and cutting up 6 other drivers in anger. Yeah thanks guys.
Okay I am definately finished. Sorry I am not spell checking that lot. You can have ot warts an all.
Turbo pete
Kin hell pete - bit uptight in the motor are we?? http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/wink.gif
Naaah - I agree with everything you say - but genrally Ill just let people get on with what they are doing. If they want to drive like prats, then let em, I just warp boost my way past them once I get a chance
Ill often undertake people to get them to move over - once theyve seen someone come down the inside of them at 100 mph, they suddenyl realise there is another lane there after all http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif
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AshT_200
11-12-2001, 12:26
Originally posted by turbo pete:
Yeah, i don't always indicate.
I find most peole are half asleep on the motorway. Drove 200 miles to london the other day and then back again. M1 all the way.
Here are my pet hates which i think are worse than peole who don't indicate.
1. People who sit in the middle lane.
Known as the FRENS if I'm correct on the stretch of the M6 past Birmingham
2. Drivers who stay in the second and third lane all the time. even when you come up behind them, flash lights, pull in, indicate pull out indicate etc...
Worse if it's 2 trucks racing. Isn't there rules on trucks using the 3rd lane?
I find that often if the outside lane is full there is often room to continue in the second lane. You undertake half a dozen cars to discover that the guy at the front is not overtaking anything. Then when you complete illegally undertaking they honk, flash lights and abuse you for undertaking.
I always hate to undertake, the cops would pull me and leave the idiots in the outside lane.
i am always careful to pass slowly when I am in the inside lane since some idiots then realising they should not be in the outside lane pull in and cut you up.
The first lane is safer to undertake in since you can have a clear look up the hard shoulder and if the toss bags pulll in youalways have somewhere to escape to.
Still it would be alot nicer if they just piggingn moved in the first place.
3. K***heads who have fog lights on. I don't mind it for the first few miles. God knows I am always knocking my switch without realising. ^foot and long legs means I often tap it on without realising. However, after a couple of miles I check my instruments, notice the light is on and switch it off. But these K**** are oblivious, even when you flash, turn your lights on and off, pass them and switch your fogs on and off...etc...
It makes me want to stop at the next service station and say, "Open your F****** eyes you idiot".
And front Fogs http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/mad.gif
4. Peole whpo fail to follow the MSM, Mirror signal maneovre routine. Popular combinations include SM or signal manoevre. Or MMS manoevre, mirror and then signal. Thankyou for telling me you have just pulled out narrowly hitting my front bumper. Grrrr
5. Peole who fail to acknowledge with a wave of a hand or flash of the indicators the fact that I have just braked to allow them to pull out and avoid being baulked. They then invariably tend to hog the outside lane, slow down etc....
6. Peole who drive 3 feet off my bumper. They still don't get ot when you flash the brake light or do a 70 - 120 in 3 seconds to widen the gap when space permits.
7. People who drive with misaligned headlights or driving lights. They are nearly always Beemers and they invariably have uprated 3000Watt lights.
Worse when it is an unmarked police car loaded with equipment in the back. Sittng in acar that's lowered, it appears as if they are flashing their lights at you.
8. People who having overtaken a vehicle then proceed to dawdle in the outside lane as if there 3foot long micra car has the same proportions as an articulated truck and then indicate there intention to pull back in somewhere over the next few miles.
Thats only 8. anyone who points tis out to me will cause me to go off on another again.
Sorry guys, feeling a little stressed. I am calm again now.
I am sure many of you will agree though. I am not perfect but I am always happy to smile and wave acknowledgement of the fact when I am in the wrong.
Which reminds me -
9. I hate people who point out that you have made a mistake and then fail to acknowledge the fact you have accepted you are in the wrong, despite a smile and the look that means "****, sorry mate I ballsed that up". They invariably continue to rant and rave, curse, threaten you before driving off at a speed far in excess of what would be seemed safe and cutting up 6 other drivers in anger. Yeah thanks guys.
Okay I am definately finished. Sorry I am not spell checking that lot. You can have ot warts an all.
Turbo pete
I agree with ALL Pete's comments.
It's quite common on the m/ways near Bristol to see the inside lane completely empty for HUNDREDS OF YARDS!
And the bloke who coined the phrase 'driving lights' for leaving front fogs on permantly needs executing immediately.
It's like JUSTIFYING the blinding of other drivers!
And what do Plod do about it? F*CK ALL.
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