View Full Version : Campaign to reduce UK petrol prices
sidewaysrob
26-05-2004, 00:45
This is brilliant!!
This is a must to for everyone.
Seriously, copy the text and send out an e-mail. Tell everyone you know!!
We all complain about the prices, and now we can all do something about it. Post it on every forum that you are a member of.
This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May!
The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol.
It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
BUT, whoever thought of this idea has come up with a plan that can
really work. Please read it and join in!
Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to
think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP at 77p -80p, we need to take
aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace not
sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers
need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of
petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing
their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.
Here's the idea:
For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two
biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not
selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices.
If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.
But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Esso and
BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me
at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach
millions of people! I am sending this note to a lot of people.
If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the
time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have
reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE
Action:
It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your
petrol at Shell, Texaco, Tesco, Sainsburys, Jet etc. i.e. boycott BP and Esso.
guess where sainburys and other supermarkets buy there petrol :)
sainsburys fuel is esso. :wave: :wave:
Most people on here buy Optimax anyway. :indiff:
It wont work because oil is cheap. Its the govornments tax that is expensive!
Plus ive never seen a TESCO oil rig :wack: ;)
anyone else recon the message was created by someone who works at Shell?
I've seen this before. Nothing new and it will achieve nothing :indiff:
There are much better reasons for not buying esso http://www.stopesso.com/
Tried and tested. No effect whatsoever. :rolleyes:
This has been knocking about for a couple of years, ever since the big shortage thing. :rolleyes:
and as its been said its not the oil companies its the fooking government that are to blame :furious:
I disagree. The government say they have no control over the increasing oil prices (and therefore the increasing petrol prices). And I totally believe them. :nod:
Isn't about 90% of what you pay at the pump taxes in one form or another. As said before, it's the government that take the most of what you pay at the pump, lobbying the oil companies is not likely to have much effect.
What makes a mockery of what the government says is that, due to them taking a percentage, whenever the oil price increases, so does their cut.
If the government actually wanted to do something, they would agree a capped figure each year to add to the basic cost of fuel. That way any oil price increase would be solely that.
What makes a mockery of what the government says is that, due to them taking a percentage, whenever the oil price increases, so does their cut.
If the government actually wanted to do something, they would agree a capped figure each year to add to the basic cost of fuel. That way any oil price increase would be solely that.
But it sorts out Brown's budget black hole very nicely :annoyed:
guess where sainburys and other supermarkets buy there petrol :)
sainsburys fuel is esso. :wave: :wave:
not all of them.... si used to be duty manager at the sainsburys in thame about 2 years ago and they are shell :nod:
It wont work because oil is cheap. Its the govornments tax that is expensive!
That sums it up quite well I recon.
Esso & BP are supposed to be the most environmentaly aware oil co's so i wont boycott them!
If they really want a camaign to hurt the oils co's, boycott buying anything from the forecourt shops!
Imagine if everyone actually followed the governments advice over their three biggest earners. If we all decided to ride bikes, quit smoking and stop drinking, where would that leave the country?? In serious truoble i expect.
BP are one of the most green out of a bad bunch guys - they spend more money on environmental impact risk management and research than the others.
Plus... its one of the few successful british transnationals left.
And - they supply the majority of the third rate pump places listed on that email.
And.... its mostly tax anyway. You know Gordon Brown has had a stepped Petrol tax hike every year? 10p per gallon - thats how much it was proposed for this September.
Err... you know the oil company only gets about 10p out of the 84.9p a litre dont you? The rest is about 1-2p to the filling station itself, and the rest of THAT is tax.
It wouldnt be so high, if Labour werent such a bunch of taxing CNUTS. You should also all be aware that Labour are retracting the tax breaks on LPG and LNG powered vehicles, and they will be taxed at the same rate as PETROL - even though it is way way cleaner - and much cheaper and environmentally friendlier to produce as well :hurl:
Don't think it would make a scrap of difference which government was in power. :indiff:
But you should lobby whichever government is in to reduce fuel taxes - and instead invest money in alternative power sources - and incentivise the use of it - e.g. LPG and LNG are a good step towards Hydrogen fuel cells for instance.
Small steps - we still need oil for medicines / plastics / explosives / chemicals etc.
Its not the fault of the oil companies - its the governments taxation. Do the yanks complain? No. They have much less tax.
Do the French complain? You betcha - they were militant and aggressive in their demonstrations to the government to reduce tax on diesel.
Which worked, and the government reduced taxes on diesel in 2001.
Do the French complain? You betcha - they were militant and aggressive in their demonstrations to the government to reduce tax on diesel.
Which worked, and the government reduced taxes on diesel in 2001.
Er no it didn't. the tax remained the same. Instead the Vignette (Road Fund Licence) was scrapped.
Er no it didn't. the tax remained the same. Instead the Vignette (Road Fund Licence) was scrapped.What a cracking idea.... :clap:
http://www.eiro.eurofound.eu.int/2000/10/feature/fr0010197f.html
nya nyah nyah nyah.... for certain road users it did.
http://edition.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/09/07/france.fuel.03/index.html
Road hauliers etc...
Pipe, stick and smoke please :notworthy
Hang on, how can we be effected by oil prices...
1) We produce our OWN oil.
2) We buy BILLIONS of gallons of crude, when the price is low, so WHY is the price increase passed to us, when the oil companies ARENT buying any oil!
http://www.eiro.eurofound.eu.int/2000/10/feature/fr0010197f.html
nya nyah nyah nyah.... for certain road users it did.
http://edition.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/09/07/france.fuel.03/index.html
Road hauliers etc...
Pipe, stick and smoke please :notworthy
It applies to everyone, not just Road Hauliers.
You have raised a very good issue - the french scrapped that - what a good idea - exactly - then move to motorway toll roads as well. That way the owners of the toll roads would HAVE to spend money on the upkeep - and that way you would be assured that the government dont use motoring revenue as a cash cow - Labour govt takes in 40+ billion in revenue, but spends only a minor fraction in return.
I agree with the French lesson - scrap the tax
I agree with the French lesson - scrap the tax
and display an insrance disc instead :nod:
Thats a cracking idea!
We will fix this country yet boys :thumbs: insurance disk would be great idea - absolutely! And it would have to be able to be read easily to get details.
The chinese muppet who rear ended me and pretended to not speak english - wasnt insured.
I would have loved to have read some details off of an official disk, rather than listen to him lying to me in mandarin!
Pauly_Boy
26-05-2004, 13:46
The Govenment wins twice here. Opec control the amount of oil thats on the market, with the excption of a small number of countries, and its the fear that the oil supply from iraq is going to decrease due to terrorisum that is causing the price to rise and also the fact the Shell oils reserves were hugely over estimated.
So the price goes up, causing petrol to go up at the pumps, which means means the govenment makes more money at the Pumps (VAT) and also the oil from the north has gone up about 40%, which again increases the tax income.
Hang on, how can we be effected by oil prices...
1) We produce our OWN oil.
2) We buy BILLIONS of gallons of crude, when the price is low, so WHY is the price increase passed to us, when the oil companies ARENT buying any oil!
But that would presuppose a nationalised oil industry rather than a situation whereby Thatcher's govt. gave away our most valuable national asset ever to the yanks because it thought we couldn't cope with extracting and refining it (and because our governments almost always do what the US govt and oil co.s (much the same thing) want them to)
Safeway supply shell petrol I am sure (asda = esso, not sure about tesco).
Anyway the way I see it if you did this boycot the oil company would lean big style on the government
Just watch how quickly the government get the finger out then. (we complain nothing happens - oil company complains I bet somthing happens)
Direct action (lobby government + Indirect lobby petrol companies = greater chance of somthing being done)
But that would presuppose a nationalised oil industry rather than a situation whereby Thatcher's govt. gave away our most valuable national asset ever to the yanks because it thought we couldn't cope with extracting and refining it (and because our governments almost always do what the US govt and oil co.s (much the same thing) want them to)
probably doesnt help that BP just sold off several oil rigs and tankers, altho they did manage to keep it rather quiet
YorkshireRam
26-05-2004, 16:44
even tho i agree that the government are the main culprits here - the big petrol companies still made record profits last year - serious profits too! i think they could cut more out of the price of petrol than they let on.
typical corporate business tho - the bigger they are, the more money they need to keep gorging themselves.
'uk plc' being the main problem. :( wots it goin to be like in 10yrs time? :indiff:
AshT_200
26-05-2004, 16:50
Wouldn't work anyway now. Most corporate email systems would identify an email like that as SPAM or Junk Mail and block it. Ours would ;)
Unfortunately it's a situation partly of our own creating....realistically, how many of us are going to boycott pumps, not drive our cars in protest etc etc?
We all talk about it...."yeah oil companies make loadsa money" "arghhh Bloody government and their taxes"
But we never do anything about it, for several reasons.
a) we are lazy
b) we can't live without our cars
c) we are lazy
Things could change in this country, we could change laws, we could bring down speed cameras and hell we could even get the cost of fuel in the UK slashed.....but that requires action on the part of everyone, not just a few people, or even a few tens of thousands....but EVERYONE.
maybe if we got off our collective asses, things would change....but we wont :)
YorkshireRam
26-05-2004, 17:04
But we never do anything about it, for several reasons.
a) we are lazy
b) we can't live without our cars
c) we are lazy
:) true. us brits are all talk and no action unfortunately. suppose the situation is like siphoning a petrol tank - you have to give us a good suck before we start to flow/act :)
none of the work places so far I have sent to have rejected it.
Inc, RBS, Jaguar(ford), Local Government etc... etc.....
:D
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