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ScoobyDoo
22-05-2004, 21:21
taken from scoobynet (http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=329940) go here for full post.
Basically the rules are changing for grey imported vehicles that have to under go ESVA before registration and means ANY modifications will fail :mad:
The jobsworths have moved the goalposts yet again and now state that any non standard fitment or modification will be an immediate test failure for ESVA! on pre 1997 vehicles also!
This includes the following:
1. Any aftermarket bodykits
2. Non factory standard alloy wheels where the factory radius size is different
3.suspension
4.Intercoolers ( GT-R 33 models exempt as it is fitted standard ) but must be Nissan!
5.Exhausts and downpipes etc
6. all visible non standard engine mods such as:
Air Induction kits/ Turbochargers, Turbo boost controllers, dump valves,air horns, pipework, radiators, brakes, brake Discs, etc
7. ECU's
NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo !!!
superclarkey
22-05-2004, 21:23
:eek:
:no:
they may as well just say Rule 1> no fun....Rule 2> ever!
:mad: :furious:
ScoobyDoo
22-05-2004, 21:26
The real worrying thing thing here is that this is for grey imports today, how long before its targeted at UK origin cars too?
Imagine every mod you put on your car requiring a full engineering report before being road legal? :(
You may think it'll never happen but I understand some European countries have anti-modding regulations already.
tim rome
22-05-2004, 21:28
i was wondering where a couple of jap import centres round here had disappeared to. they must have closed down
superclarkey
22-05-2004, 21:28
The real worrying thing thing here is that this is for grey imports today, how long before its targeted at UK origin cars too?
Imagine every mod you put on your car requiring a full engineering report before being road legal? :(
You may think it'll never happen but I understand some European countries have anti-modding regulations already.
I think i heard (don't know if its ture) that in germany you can sevice your own brakes. (someone tell me if thats ture)
John Bennett
22-05-2004, 21:38
No f*cking way :furious: .
That will virtually destroy the Japanese sports car import market :eek:
I was considering a Kouki S13 180sx or an RX-7 when I send my current car off to the scrapper. I would imagine the chances of finding an absolutely untainted Jap one to get through the ESVA are virtually zero :(
Please let this be a mistake :cry: .
it would be extremely difficult to find a 180 that hasn't been modded according to my Japanese friends so it looks like you might have a point m8 :cry:
superclarkey
22-05-2004, 21:45
This is a joke. :no:
John Bennett
22-05-2004, 21:56
The Scooby link says all cars, yet looking at an SVA website (http://www.ltc-sva.co.uk/faqs.shtml) it mentions cars after 1997 and cars younger than 10 years. This would mean 1993 cars and older would be OK. Wait a couple of years and the 180sx I want will be exempt (hopefully).
mattygti-r
22-05-2004, 22:13
then u go try insure it :mad: :( imports are being targeted big time in this country ...its going to become very difficult to drive about in a jap import
Here is a link to the thread on Skyline Owners Club
http://www.skylineowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8055
Ignore some of the "banter" and put your name down on the petition list :thumbs:
Whats goin to happen to all the cars that would be coming over here,
i won't be able to sleep at night thinking of all those bad boy street racers in need of a home :( :cry:
then u go try insure it :mad: :( imports are being targeted big time in this country ...its going to become very difficult to drive about in a jap import
Too right, some of the quotes I've seen on RX sites for imports are just stupid. My premium was increased by 30% for the sole reason it's an import :indiff:
There's just no reason for the targetting of older imports, the sales of them is not going to adversely affect anyone's jobs in this country :mad:
Too right, some of the quotes I've seen on RX sites for imports are just stupid. My premium was increased by 30% for the sole reason it's an import :indiff:
There's just no reason for the targetting of older imports, the sales of them is not going to adversely affect anyone's jobs in this country :mad:
Create jobs!
someones got to fix them,
I think the government will reconsider when they realise all that its all the Jap Tuned cars that drink petrol!!!
Its a shame we cant take the government to court for being a big nanny and the insurance companys for unnecessarily loading premiums. This surely is just putting up trade barriers which is not very fair, we already pay twice the price new for our cars due to trade barriers all to keep rover and renault in business :mad: . This seems unfair, unnecessary and probably the result of bribes/lobbying by rover and the others.
ScoobyDoo
27-05-2004, 19:15
the crappiest thing about this whole thing is my UK WRX was made in the same factory as my mates Japan WRX.
Its the same fcuking car ffs!
Technically then mine too is an import......
Matt.Wild
28-05-2004, 11:58
Aren't all 200's made in Japan too :confused:
How the hell am I supposed to get my RX-7 Spirit Type R next year for my 25th b'day now :cry:
I'd been promising myself that car for years :(
This can't stand, can someone find out the exact law,
then we can work out how to get round it.
i did read a post on the skyline forum that said the authorities said it was up to the testers descretion, so aslong as the car saw passing emission and safety test it was ok.
but.....
that doesn't seem to be the case for other people,
cars failing just coz they have a new rear spoiler !! :ghey:
****ers!!!
so basically you would need to import it, return to standard and then SVA it :confused:
yep or have a individual vechicle test which apparently costs about £10k :eek:
Does this not contradict act 81 of the treaty of rome (EU law) where by the government are not allowed to create acts which damage trade and the free market. The argument of safety of imports is not a valid one as cars over here are allowed to be sold second hand with mods and are not kept to the same standards that they are in Japan. I would also clasp the behaviour of insurance companies collusional due to the fact the japanese spec is the same as UK spec on many cars (certainly not 30% different like insurance companies suggest). The other illogical reason insurance companies give is that cars in Japan are stolen to order, this is also not a valid argument too as they will not be liable if it is stolen. I wonder what unsensible answer I will get back if I write the OFT.
Papa Lazarou
29-05-2004, 20:53
Someone needs to kick up a big fcuking stink over this.
Fcuking do gooder cnuts
Too right, some of the quotes I've seen on RX sites for imports are just stupid. My premium was increased by 30% for the sole reason it's an import :indiff:
There's just no reason for the targetting of older imports, the sales of them is not going to adversely affect anyone's jobs in this country :mad:
go with tesco - they don't care!
I even phoned them to tell them that the car was an IMPORT FORM JAPAN and NOT ORIGINATING FROM THE UK because it was AN IMPORT FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD (just to make sure that they understood and wouldn't invalidate my premium) and the woman gave a verbal shrug and told me it didn't matter...
ScoobyDoo
29-05-2004, 21:30
and the woman gave a verbal shrug
what does that sound like then? :D
You're right about tesco's, my mate got a great quote for his MR2 turbo, they didnt care about where it was from.
what does that sound like then? :D
You're right about tesco's, my mate got a great quote for his MR2 turbo, they didnt care about where it was from.
"ahhhhftt" I think.
The sort of noise someone makes when they are thinking "Oh for chrissakes can't this freak get off the phone and let me finish drying my hair/painting my nails/creating pubic topiary animals...
australia has legislation where you have to get any mods engineered (well dot) approved, and i think those mods allowed even vary according to what part of oz your in! all those cars that could have been sent over here, scrapped..........jap andy will be happy.loads of new business.
Now I read or heared about this somewhere recently. (mag - car prog or summint)
I seem to remember it is only applying to cars made after a certain date so the 180sx should still be ok..
John
i think it aplies to anything after 1993 so that does affect some 180sx's the newer ones anyway
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