Free internet :D

[voodoo_melon]

Just got home and turned my laptop on, and someone round here has an unsecured wireless network going onto their cable/adsl connection :D Guess who doesn't have to use dialup for the next 10 days :D :D

[voodoo_melon]

And they're using the default admin username and password password for the router :D

[Ant]

lol, someone is your neighbourhood or house?

[James]

my wireless router reaches the house 2 doors down from me.
I provide them broadband internet in exchange for having my back lawn mowed and they're very light users so I don't even notice the difference :D

[voodoo_melon]

lol, someone is your neighbourhood or house?
Prolly a couple of houses away or across the road, the signal stregth is low (1/5 bars) and I'm only getting 5.5mbit. Fast enough for sxoc browsing though :D

[voodoo_melon]

Someone called Luke is sharing some music + stuff too :D

[Stusy@Swaytech]

Get a wireless network card set to NA it'll up the power to 100mA output give better range.....

guess what field of work I do lol......

Thank god mines all encypted

[voodoo_melon]

Mines built into my laptop, IBM Thinkpad T40.

[Martin T]

Voodoo, you are an arsehole :D, but a very clever one and I bow down to your expert use of the foolish neighbours "spare" bandwidth :D
Excellent work mate :thumbs: :)

[voodoo_melon]

Voodoo, you are an arsehole :D, but a very clever one and I bow down to your expert use of the foolish neighbours "spare" bandwidth :D
Excellent work mate :thumbs: :)
:D

I'm not using a huge amount of bandwidth, just a few pages so they won't even notice I'm here. Might print something telling them how to put a wep key on it and change the router password at the end of the holiday ;)

[Jezz_S13]

mine isn't secure (and it's my job LOL, work is very secure though), but anyone near me thinks wireless is something you listen to the radio on. LOL.
I have airmagnet on this laptop too which is the bollox (£3k) for finding wireless stuff.

[Martin T]

[QUOTE=voodoo_melon]:D

I'm not using a huge amount of bandwidth, QUOTE]

Why the fvck not? :D I'd be caning it unless they were likely to notice :D

[voodoo_melon]

Connection is a bit unstable, signal varies between low and very low. Might start a download or 2 in the later on ;)

[aBoijj]

I don't bother with wireless, I just cable the relevant parts of the house - much faster to transfer data around that way and no chance of people like Jezz and Mr Melon nicking me bandwidth :p

[Leon]

Someone called Luke is sharing some music + stuff too :D

is he sharing nude pics too?

how does this work anyway, to get back to a more serious point. Is it like your laptop is a radio and transmitting to everyone in a certain radius with a certain receiver?
if so, how can it be blocked?

[voodoo_melon]

No pics but he does have some naughty vidoes ;) :D

Yes it has a radio transceiver in the laptop. Dunno about the range but around 30 meters?

[aBoijj]

Optimal range is normally around 50-90 metres

[Fozzy]

No pics but he does have some naughty vidoes

and how would you know that :confused:

i'm sure you said you'd not being using too much bandwidth!!!! :) :smash:

[voodoo_melon]

I meant internet bandwidth ;)

Only getting 1-2mbit connection, sometime up to 5.5 and up to 11 if I go upstairs :)

[Fozzy]

Only getting 1-2mbit connection, sometime up to 5.5 and up to 11 if I go upstairs


Intresting...was thinking of installing wireless at home but wasnt sure how it would cope with 2ft think walls, if your getting changes like that just by moving upstairs...albeit to a source of unknown distance....i may have to rethink my stratigy. :(

[voodoo_melon]

I think it's 30 ish meters away because it's stronger at the back of the house. Plus it's going through 2 walls. Would prolly be ok through a 2ft wall if they aren't too far apart.

[aBoijj]

I have wireless in my office at work - the walls are around 12" thick and the ceiling between my room and the upstairs is of unknown thickness but probably at least 2 foot of concrete (very old building) and it covers the adjacent two IT rooms which are about 7 metres long each and the two rooms above those too

[ATrull]

I refuse to run any wireless stuff, even with wep, on any networks over which I have control ;)

[golders]

what scares me about wireless is that you could have it and someone could tap in and view/download dodgy stuff and it would look like you did it.

i.e. pedo etc

Is there anyway of proving that it was not yourself?

[Stusy@Swaytech]

mine isn't secure (and it's my job LOL, work is very secure though), but anyone near me thinks wireless is something you listen to the radio on. LOL.
I have airmagnet on this laptop too which is the bollox (£3k) for finding wireless stuff.

My home is secure...I've got my intire house hardwired networked with a 24way switch in the loft along with tow servers and a 11Mb wep encypted AP so the wife can use her laptop.....

However work is not very secure....lol.....upstairs from us we have ensign who do the backbone and RF installs if i put a card in a laptop down stairs there's always a few ap's on up there with no WEP and they have 2M broadband....

[ATrull]

what scares me about wireless is that you could have it and someone could tap in and view/download dodgy stuff and it would look like you did it.

i.e. pedo etc

Is there anyway of proving that it was not yourself?

credit cards :p

most of the recent spate of net-pedos have been charged on evidence of credit card transactions with net pedo websites..

and if it is legal porn, well, you can do what you like and nobody in authority will care.

[Jezz_S13]

My home is secure...I've got my intire house hardwired networked with a 24way switch in the loft along with tow servers and a 11Mb wep encypted AP so the wife can use her laptop.....

However work is not very secure....lol.....upstairs from us we have ensign who do the backbone and RF installs if i put a card in a laptop down stairs there's always a few ap's on up there with no WEP and they have 2M broadband....

wep isn't that secure, as isn't mac restricting, we use MSCHAP2 to authenticate to a 128bit VPN. It's a 1GB BB that we have to protect though, lots of people seem to want to borrow a bit of it. LOL.

[voodoo_melon]

wep isn't that secure, as isn't mac restricting, we use MSCHAP2 to authenticate to a 128bit VPN. It's a 1GB BB that we have to protect though, lots of people seem to want to borrow a bit of it. LOL.
WEP is better than nothing though, and it's ok for home use. I can log into the router that I'm going through so I could block all IPs from wan access except mine, then change the password to get in :D

[amcluesent]

>but wasnt sure how it would cope with 2ft think walls,<

Depends, I live in a converted telephone exchange so the floors are very solid! A laptop with wi-fi build in (aerial in the screen surround) is fine, a plugged in wi-fi PC-card doesn't get a useable signal going through the floors.

You can build parabolic aerials that push-over the sticky-up aerials on the access-point to give you a power boost. Just works in one direction though!

[Jezz_S13]

WEP is better than nothing though, and it's ok for home use. I can log into the router that I'm going through so I could block all IPs from wan access except mine, then change the password to get in :D


you could do, then he's probably reset it wait for you to re-associate and then beat **** out of you. :D
Or grab your traffic, suss your passwords, email address etc and make you're life hell. :D

Oh I just edited your message instead of quoting it by mistake, sorry. :o

[gaz.thomas]

I've not bothered securing my home wireless network. Partly because of the 'issues' with Dell laptops and WEP but mostly because for someone to be stealing my bandwidth they'd have to be parked outside my flat :wack:

Gaz
-x-

[Mitch]

I wish I paid more attention at school, or was a couple of years younger. I have not got a fcuking clue about all this stuff. Is it worth learning, and how do I do it?

[dj_mdma]

i just set up a wireless network in my house for my mum to access our broadband on her laptop. its unsecured atm, cos i'm having troubles with the laptop connecting to it, if it has WEP on it. Its was fun walking around my neighbourhood with my laptop using the ping command to see where i would lose signal...i could walk a decent 60 metres from my front door and still use it :D

[Jezz_S13]

Of MAC restricting and WEP, restricting on MAC is most probably more secure from the POV of not wanting anyone else to connect to your network, WEP is there to encrypt the data so no-one can sniff the newtork and steal personal data etc. It's quite easy to crack though, a sniffer needs to capture around 100mb of data I believe before it can successfully crack the wep. If you do both you'll be reasonably safe.

Mitch, when I went to school we had BBC's @ school and I had a ZX81 and a ZX Spectrum. :thumbs:

[Fozzy]

So I'm now thinking that wireless will work through the walls of the house :thumbs:


As for security i'm lucky all my neighbours are dead :nod: :nod:

[mattpayne]

ESSID masking, wep + mac filtering ... but for any one to use it, they have to be sitting on my balcony :wack: the walls are so solid that you loose the signal at ground level! :)

[Aitch]

As for security i'm lucky all my neighbours are dead :nod: :nod:

Don't you think it would be community spirited of you to have reported the fact that your neighbours have five days worth of milk on their doorstep and the same amount of newspapers hanging out of their letterbox, rather than worry about internet/computer security issues? :confused: :D

[Mitch]

Mitch, when I went to school we had BBC's @ school and I had a ZX81 and a ZX Spectrum. :thumbs:

Oh dear, me too. Guess you're the same age as me and I've just been left behind, then. :D
I knew all those years of playing about with cars, drinking, socialising and working overseas would come back and bite me in the arse. Oh well, you only live once. (Unless of course you're a suicide bomber, 'cos they live forever with virgins and stuff, apparently. :rolleyes: )

[dtmpower]

Just got home from work for the weekend and switched on my laptop - samed damed thing - someone running a nice connection free of charge for all to see on wireless , though I would just post to test - then back to my nice secure cable network :) its crazy to think people are so naive to buy these things and then let everyone else benefit - is there anyway to see who is on the network/who owns it ?

John

[silviagod]

I tried wireless and I have 2ft thick walls :rant: I am now hard-wired and no problems at all.

[bren]

Ive got a wireless connection at home, how can I protect my bandwidth?

Its ace, this morning we had brekky in bed and was surfing the net sorting out our next trackday etc whilst scoffing :cool: :D

I want a wireless connection at work so I can set up a table and chairs outside the back of the unit as its closed off and private and all well maintained grass. It wil be ace to come into work and go out the back with the laptop to work in the morning sun with a coffee :cool: :nod:

[Jezz_S13]

find the MAC address of the wireless card

start->run>type 'cmd' press enter.
then type 'ipconfig /all' at the command prompt that opens and press enter.

look for the physical address something like aa:12:34:56:34:de, then get into the router config via the web interface and enter the MAC address in the allowed list and deny all others.

this will stop anyone just connecting to it (unless they are really determined), will only allow the cards that you have registered to connect, the MAC's are unique.
if you set WEP up as well this will encrypt all of the traffic between your PC/Laptop and the router. There are ways of making it mnore secure but they get a bit complicated

when you have set a WEP key up on the router you have to set it up on the laptop/pc too.

Read the manual that came with the router before you try. :)