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[Buffy]

http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1584624.phtml

Lots of pics

[brucy]

that won't t-cut out :eek: :eek: :eek:

[cherry1809]

Oh dear,he wouldn't have felt a thing,i think.
Reminds me of my cousins incident with a tree:(

[JB]

I found that quite upsetting :(

[2 Black Lines]

This will probably be closed soon , but this should be shown to all the tubes that tear up and down the high st - you know the type- this is what can and does happen. sorry to this, but this is real, unfortunately.

[JB]

Originally posted by 2 black lines
This will probably be closed soon ,
Don't see why. It's pretty sobering stuff actually.

[2 Black Lines]

Not too explicit/ upsetting?

[Chris]

no blood no guts so it's ok with me

a nice reality check :thumbs:

[Big_ReD]

the needle on the speedo is pointing at 80mph:eek:

[seb]

Originally posted by Big_ReD
the needle on the speedo is pointing at 80mph:eek:

But I wouldn't be surprised if it was a lot more than that at the point that s/he lost it. It'd be natural to dip the clutch or something and the car would probably roll a few times before the speedo died, I reckon 100+.

[2 Black Lines]

Okay then.

Just thought the pics might be a bit non PC. Maybe I'm Think of the fragile minds of some of our readers/viewers, or is it PC overkill?

[seb]

Originally posted by 2 black lines
PC overkill?

spot on, people worry too much about PC.

[MeLLoN Stu]

holy sheet :eek:

bet that didnt tickle

[JB]

Originally posted by 2 black lines
Okay then.

Just thought the pics might be a bit non PC. Maybe I'm Think of the fragile minds of some of our readers/viewers, or is it PC overkill?
You've been told by myself and Chris that it's ok, so why keep on about it?

Anyway back on topic. I'm off for a drive in a min and I rather think, in light of those pics that I might drive a little slower than usual.

[2 Black Lines]

Originally posted by JB
You've been told by myself and Chris that it's ok, so why keep on about it?




As you would say

:indiff:

[Chris]

back on topic

audi guy got a lucky escape

a 200 is much more unstable

THINK ABOUT IT

[2 Black Lines]

Originally posted by chris
back on topic

audi guy got a lucky escape


erm, the two sheets in the forground and the posts on the topic may tell a different story for the passangers, unfortunately.

[PsYcHeS]

Almost looks like a cut n shut aftermath

[ZXSpectrum]

Originally posted by 2 black lines
erm, the two sheets in the forground and the posts on the topic may tell a different story for the passangers, unfortunately.

Hummmmm... There is a debat on the OCUK forum about these pics... There does seem to be major carnage but no blood... Hummmm....

[tim rome]

i recon its a fake, the bits of the car have been placed strategically around the trees

[MeLLoN Stu]

have to say i'm starting to think the same tim :indiff:
no fluids anywhere to be seen, no glass, no airbags, groud unmarked. the parts of the car seem strategically placed as you said.
theres a few points on that thread abuot it being fake that hink sthe same too.

who knows

[Grim]

another point to consider is that a car that crashes gets mangled. however, once the fire crew have cut people out it looks a lot worse.

there was a car that mashed into a roadsign on a dc near here. i went passed the other way and the police ambulance were in attendance. it ws a heavyish front, but possibly repairable.

the photo in the paper was after hugh pugh and barnymagroo had finished and it was CARNAGE

[Grim]

Originally posted by Big_ReD
the needle on the speedo is pointing at 80mph:eek:

kph

[SteveCarter200]

Its fake. There are no skid marks on the ground.

[MeLLoN Stu]

Originally posted by SteveCarter200
Its fake. There are no skid marks on the ground.

and thats the bottom line because steeeeeve C said soooo :D

[JB]

Originally posted by SteveCarter200
Its fake. There are no skid marks on the ground.
A car like that would have ABS brakes so you wouldn't get skid marks would you :confused:

[MeLLoN Stu]

Originally posted by JB
A car like that would have ABS brakes so you wouldn't get skid marks would you :confused:

abs doesnt work on the back of them and also if it was going sideways or anything it would leave skid marks imo.
if somethings come off the road heavy enough to have damage done to the extent that that has had, there'd be more clues given in the form of damage to the tarmac maybe, defiantely damage to the soil ect

[JB]

Originally posted by MeLLoN Stu
abs doesnt work on the back of them
At the risk of sounding yet again like a total pillock, does ABS only work on the front wheels then? I could have sworn it does all 4 otherwise it's a bit self defeating if instead of sliding head first into an obstacle you end up spinning and going in backwards :eek: :eek: :eek:

Agree with your other points though, but can't really see why anyone would want to stage something like that unless it's stills from a Movie or something.

[crackdownuk]

Originally posted by JB
At the risk of sounding yet again like a total pillock, does ABS only work on the front wheels then? I could have sworn it does all 4 otherwise it's a bit self defeating if instead of sliding head first into an obstacle you end up spinning and going in backwards :eek: :eek: :eek:

Agree with your other points though, but can't really see why anyone would want to stage something like that unless it's stills from a Movie or something.

do the rears actually break then??? or just when you used the hand brake???

or are they set up like 80% on the front 20% on the rears???

[Paulie]

It certainly looks real, the way things are bent around trees and all, but an engine just does not appear on the floor without leaving some sort of trail :confused:

[mattpayne]

if it was real, a lot more bark would be missing from the trees, people would be kept much further away from the scene, more emergency services would be there... lots of bill, and atleast one fire appliance... the guy that taped off the area would have taped around the engine block, not over it....

it all looks far too clinical...

[voodoo_melon]

If it was going fast enough to split it in half it certainly didn't move very far afterwards. Looks like a fake to me but still it is possible to do stuff like that. There are real ones on www.wreckedexotics.com

This one (http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad289.shtml) for instance :indiff:

[Ken]

Why would anyone go to such lengths to set up a fake like that though? :confused:

[mattpayne]

Originally posted by Ken
Why would anyone go to such lengths to set up a fake like that though? :confused:


Publicity, could be for an ad campaign, someone might have crashed thier car and bought the remains back off the insurance comapnay for a laugh, or just to stir up discussion and debate on the net... see how far the photos circulate :)

[voodoo_melon]

Originally posted by JB
At the risk of sounding yet again like a total pillock, does ABS only work on the front wheels then? I could have sworn it does all 4 otherwise it's a bit self defeating if instead of sliding head first into an obstacle you end up spinning and going in backwards :eek: :eek: :eek:

Agree with your other points though, but can't really see why anyone would want to stage something like that unless it's stills from a Movie or something. No, it works on all 4 on the footbrake. Some cars have one sensor for each front wheel but only one for the back as the front does more braking.

[Ken]

Originally posted by Skyline_Matt
Publicity, could be for an ad campaign, someone might have crashed thier car and bought the remains back off the insurance comapnay for a laugh, or just to stir up discussion and debate on the net... see how far the photos circulate :)

Thinking about it, I'd go with the last one

[SX Me Up]

I think it's a fake on the basis of one tiny, tiny little thing. The Radio/CD/MD player headunit thing is gone.

Now though I think there's some chance it could have come off in a crash, the more likely thing is that the car ended up in a scrappies and the headunit was taken out to be sold. They then took the wreckage and smashed it in more and ripped it in half then set up this scene.

So to conclude I think it's a fake, just an elaborate one!

[SteveCarter200]

Originally posted by JB
A car like that would have ABS brakes so you wouldn't get skid marks would you :confused:

Not just tyre marks mate. It would be somewhat freakish if all those parts of car flew through the air and landed exactly where they are in the pics without leaving any sort of mark on the ground. The engine would have gauged a big lump out of the soil.

I reckon its either a publicity stunt for the plod or a training excersise.

[Dunk]

Right...

Where's the broken glass?

Where's the stereo headunit?

Where's the gouges in the earth where the engine/bit of car landed?

One wheel is mildly buckled - yet there is no earth/foliage embedded in between the rim/tyre

Where's all the fluids gone?

Engines leave cars and go for some flippin distance, leaving a trail of dents dinks and fluids behind them (watch drag racing)

The debris is scattered in a 20m square box - any traffic cop will tell you that an impact severe enough to severe a car in two sends bits absolutely everywhere

80kph into a tree in a very modern two door coupe - is that really enough momentum to split it two like that?

I'd also expect all the relevant debris to be covered in wood, soil, etc...

[Algie]

Skid marks are always in a straight line. If there are marks on the ground and they're curved then they are striation marks where the wheel is still turning but not quick enough to grip!

Alg:nod:

[Keith_C]

Originally posted by voodoo_melon
No, it works on all 4 on the footbrake. Some cars have one sensor for each front wheel but only one for the back as the front does more braking.

ABS on some cars uses a sensor on each wheel - it's the best way of doing ABS, as then each wheel is braked independently.

[Dave H]

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad340.jpg

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Think I'll be taking it easy on my bike tomorrow, there are some truly shocking photo's on the wrecked exotics site

[cherry1809]

And,IIRC,as the links not working at present.The engine landed upright....very skillfull.:clap:

[Dunk]

Originally posted by voodoo_melon
www.wreckedexotics.com

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That's enough to put you off driving for life...

Seems if you want to survive a crash you need to follow these rules:

1) never drive a convertible
2) never have a biggie in a coupe
3) unless you put it on its roof
4) be in a 5 series
5) never drive american day vans, or ladder chassis SUVs

Something to note here:

All the 2dr cars on there have suffered some serious disintegration...

Now is that because most coupes are probably going quicker/have younger drivers etc?

Or is it because in certain accidents - frontal area high impact - the flex inherent in a saloon shell allows for greater dissipation of kinetic energy (force of impact)??