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Whilst searching google came across this:
http://modernmusclecars.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6551
Its quite funny how these guys think Yank muscle cars will make good drift cars :no: :no:
this is the best quote
Any idiot can learn to drift, it takes real talent to go fast.
it takes real talent to slam your right foot on the pedal :smash: :smash:
I personally think the entire motorsport of "drifting" is a sad affair. It's all about being a poseur. It's slow on a race track, and is all for looks. I guess if you want to be a movie stunt driver, then it is something to get into. However if you actually want to be a sucessful racer or even a good amateur racer, stay away.
If you want to win a drift contest, just get a new Lightning pickup and bleach the tires for extra smoke. You could probably hold one sideways long enough to blow the tires up at about 2000 rpm while sipping a Big Gulp. You'll blow the tires, finish the Big Gulp or run out of gas before you end up having to straighten it out.
Drifting is a joke. Basically a bunch of yahoos in Japan and on the West Coast with poser cars that can't successfully compete in autocrossing or racing came up with their own event. The attention it is getting is sad..... sad..... sad....
one misinformed young man:no:
hmm just turns into racist abuse because they can't hold a sensible debate:indiff:
I guess alot of Americans don't get drifting because all of their roads are so straight. ;)
PhilMorrison
11-12-2003, 17:15
I stopped reading when the racism started, but what a bunch of losers. I'd like to just simply say to them that what they 'think' they can do is called power sliding.. I'd really like to see them get their tanks sideways 40 foot before the corner :rolleyes:
See, phatty, you made the mistake of using 'yank tank' and 'corner' in the same sentence.
They just dont do them.. the steering wheel is merely for show, or to rest ones arms whilst going straight:nod:
It's amazing how quickly that thread just desends into abuse!
Someone should say something ironic, that will really screw them up. Seeing as no american seems able to grasp the concept of irony ;)
PhilMorrison
11-12-2003, 18:48
who's Carlife? that link doesn't work ;)
Haven't bothered to read it to be honest but any of you guys seen Grip video vol II with this little honey on it:
PhilMorrison
11-12-2003, 19:05
pmsl :D nice 1 H :D
Don't you just love the way he's "Japped" it up
Oo oo you are a god:D
To be fair though he's an alright geezer having read his post's on "the other forum" and he knows it's all a joke which is fair enough
I'd like to drift one of these though
Nismo_Freak
11-12-2003, 22:02
Originally posted by Genjuro
I guess alot of Americans don't get drifting because all of their roads are so straight. ;)
Negative
Nismo_Freak
11-12-2003, 22:02
Originally posted by Hates_
Seeing as no american seems able to grasp the concept of irony ;)
:wave:
Nismo_Freak
11-12-2003, 22:04
Originally posted by Jason
See, phatty, you made the mistake of using 'yank tank' and 'corner' in the same sentence.
They just dont do them.. the steering wheel is merely for show, or to rest ones arms whilst going straight:nod:
Look up a Z06... nothing standard from Japan for under it's 52k pricetag can touch it on a track.
405bhp + 1.00G+ = kickin ass
Now for the rest of the shit mobiles... yes you are 100% true :thumbs:
Nismo Freak you tell it like it is :nod::thumbs:
Do you guys like figure skating too?
If it is judged it isn't a sport in my mind. Not saying it doesn't take talent to do a judged event (it takes a lot), but it just is not the same as something quantifiable such as lap times at a road course.
Originally posted by Canuck
Do you guys like figure skating too?
If it is judged it isn't a sport in my mind. Not saying it doesn't take talent to do a judged event (it takes a lot), but it just is not the same as something quantifiable such as lap times at a road course.
Thats like saying that half pipe snowboarding is less of a sport than downhill skiing. :wack:
Thats like saying that half pipe snowboarding is less of a sport than downhill skiing.
I'm just a logical person; I want to be able to quantify things.
I guess thats why I'll never be an artist.
I think the main reason people drift is for the sheer rush you get balancing your car at the edge of control and making it.
Its like many extreme sports (although I dont know if Drifting classifies), people do it for fun. Only later as they try to be more competitive does judging come into effect.
Never understood the hostility some forums have against Drifting.
Mike_S13
12-12-2003, 09:46
It takes exactly 1 millionth of the talent it takes to go faster than everyone else using smaller slip angles to maintain traction at speed saving your tires for the end of a 500 mile race.
Any idiot can learn to drift, it takes real talent to go fast. Justify it however you want. Any idiot stunt driver can drift a car, go watch some bad B rated car movies. Tons of drifting.
It's actually quite funny how kids today think this is something new. Get a pickup truck with a V8 (any will do) and a dirt road. You can drift until you get bored or run out of gas.
Wanna see some skill with the wheel, master the intentional 360 and drive off ala Danny Sullivan. Of course, I've never done it anything close to the same speed Danny did."
You only have to watch that Advan neova promo video to see the lack of skill in drifting. Anyone could go round every corner of a tight circuit sideways, clipping every curb every time :nod:. That Asamoto guy overtaking Haruyama on the option 100 video shows a similar lack of skill too :nod: :wack:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?s=&postid=662443
Also explains why quite a few Drift drivers then go on to compete in the JGTC.
"Drifting is a joke. Basically a bunch of yahoos in Japan and on the West Coast with poser cars that can't successfully compete in autocrossing or racing came up with their own event. The attention it is getting is sad..... sad..... sad....."
:indiff: :indiff: :indiff: :indiff: :indiff: :no:
That Asamoto guy overtaking Haruyama on the option 100 video shows a similar lack of skill too
But can he do it faster then a track racer?
Maybe it is big in Japan because it doesn't snow like it does up here. RWD on icey roads and parking lots all winter long make for a very easy time to "drift" and any Canadian or Northern American worth his road salt can control his drift.
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On the other hand you guys never answered the questions we had on the other forum:
Could and American Car be 'competitive' in your 'sport'.
It seems to me that if one were to modify the weight distro on a modern American V8 Pony Car (Camaro/Mustang) and do a little work that the abundance of low end torque would make it quite easy to lost the back-end.
I'm not talking the average 60's muscle car which is a different beats altogether, but rather a modern torquey V8 car.
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On American muscle - we know they can't handle. They were never really meant to because at the time it was all about going forward quickly.
If you've ever sat back and driven in a true American Muscle car you would probably love the feeling. I have plenty of friends with fast imports (Turbo AWD Celica/Turbo Laser and some Civic thing).
They all agree that although their cars would crush my Firebird in a road race, and would be quite close in the 1/4 there is just "something" about the feeling of being in one of these cars.
You would need to drive one around to understand what this feeling is. Driving on the cruise and comming up to a stop light (muscle car territory pretty much as it is just straight) and flooring it is fun.
Does it take as much skill as drifting? Probably not. I don't pretend that it does.
BanjoMaster
14-12-2003, 14:10
Originally posted by Canuck
But can he do it faster then a track racer?
Maybe it is big in Japan because it doesn't snow like it does up here. RWD on icey roads and parking lots all winter long make for a very easy time to "drift" and any Canadian or Northern American worth his road salt can control his drift.
Whether he can do it faster than a gripper has nothing to do with it. I think you're missing the pointof the entire debate just a little bit. I'd recommend taking a much closer look at what drifting is all about mate. It's definitely not just a case of stepping the back end out under power. Much, much more to it than that :nod:
Originally posted by Feisty Red Head
I guess if you want to be a movie stunt driver, then it is something to get into
lol, hands up anyone here who wouldn't absolutely love to be a movie stunt driver :cool:
nissanrps13
28-02-2004, 03:15
Yeah a bunch of idiots as far as im concerned, ashamed they are from the same country as me. Canuck. First of all muscle cars are too heavy to handle well while drifting sure they can get loose easy but they cant mantain speed while keeping control and staying nimble as well as a lighter car with more advanced suspension. second "drifting" in the snow or ice or rain or whatever is a lot easier than dry pavement. and you act like independent rear suspension is a bad thing....??
SteveCarter200
28-02-2004, 12:27
Looks whats entering the USD1 this year... Rhys Millen, Pontiac GTO, 5.7L LS1 V-8, 400bhp. http://www.d1gp.com/roster.html
IMO theres no real reason why any RWD car (with an LSD) couldnt drift properly. All it takes is the skill and a proper suspension set up to suit the car.
nissanrps13
29-02-2004, 07:00
i never said they couldnt do it properly i said they cant do it as well as most of the japanese cars, the guy is talking like big heavy muscle cars with live axles can dominate the japanese ones.
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