S14 0-60 times ???

[smoore_s14]

Hello all,

I'm not an owner yet, but...

Can anybody tell me the real 0-60 time of the standard, new (2000) UK 200SX? Even Nissan UK can't give me a reliable figure, quoting anything between 6.5 and 7.5 seconds?

[Nick_Walczak]

I think it's about 6.5

I have a feeling that you top out at 59 in second gear so maybe you get 7.5 if you short shift. It's a very torquey engine and I don't think you gain much by revving it's nuts off anyway.

Gearchange = about 0.5 second.

I used to own a car that could hit 60 in first gear @12,500 rpm http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Tom_S14]

Nick,
What car was that ? Jesus.

Yeah, standard car about 6.5s, I think I got 6.3 out of it before I made any mods, but only after a serious amount of practise (on my private test track naturally).

I'm pretty sure I can hit about 65 in 2nd myself. I've noticed something interesting here, I worked back from road speed to engine revs using gear ratios etc etc... to find that I'd been changing up early in the lower gears. This seemed a bit odd to me, cos I definitely wasn't changing up early. Even so I could always hit 60 in 2nd. Then I got my techtom-mdm100 and to my suprise it seems like the car over-reads revs esp. in lower gears !!
Ah - ha ! So really you can take 1st and 2nd a bit past the red line. I reckon my rev counter over-reads by as much as 300rpm. This might jsut be down to the damping on the needle ? Lower gears, revs climb faster, needle lags behind ?
I can do 0.3s gear changes quite repeatably (using the clutch)
Anyone here got the balls to not use the clutch ? I know how to do it (in theory) but I can't afford a new gearbox http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif

tom


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1996 Blue/Green S14 (manual)
K&N cone filter
2.5" Tube-torque Cat Back Exhaust.
TechTom MDM-100
Race-Technology AP-22
http://tom.marshall.tripod.com

[smoore_s14]

Thanks guys - did your modifications improve much on this 6.5 figure then?

[Nick_Walczak]

It was a kit car using a Honda Fireblade engine...
http://geocities.com/nick_walczak/fury_files/blade.txt

[Tom_S14]

Hmm. bet that was fun to drive. I love high revving engines. Looks nice and light !
Seen the two engined "Tiger" caterham 7 lookalike ? 2 bike engines ! 3.11s to 60 !

K&N filter made a lot of difference to acceleration in 1st. Probably a quirk of the fuelling or something. With the filter and the exhaust I basically got it down to 6s dead. And much easier to do as well. I probably did more than 20 runs before I did any mods, and the best was 6.3, average more like 6.5. After the mods I only did a few runs, moved from staffs to nottingham (can't find the roads) - but managed a couple of attempts and got 6s dead straight away.
Exhausts and filters put no extra (probably less) strain on the engine, so there's no real downside to doing it.

Tom

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1996 Blue/Green S14 (manual)
K&N cone filter
2.5" Tube-torque Cat Back Exhaust.
TechTom MDM-100
Race-Technology AP-22
http://tom.marshall.tripod.com

[Nick_Walczak]

Yep, 450kg http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif

Tom, remind me, what exhaust did you use and does it have cats?

[smoore_s14]

Cool


Right then I'll go buy one. B*ll*cks to an Integra, too ugly and costly.

Is that kit car a Sylva Fury by any chance (can't quite see the back??)

Steve

[Nick_Walczak]

That's the fella!

They are called Fisher Fury's now, manufactered by Fisher sports cars but this is an earlier car - manufactured by Sylva.

BTW: I have another kit car for sale, I'll post it on the General discussion list.

[smoore_s14]

Your Fury certainly looks the business. I had a Tiger for a while. I think the 200 will be a little more practical though. Thanks for your help - there's quite a few cars in the same class as the S14 (Fiat Coupe, Prelude, Integra, WRX) but I think the 200 wins on looks, insurance etc, and when you see one you don't automatically think 'Boy racer'

Cheers!

Steve

[Tom_S14]

Steve,
Go and buy yourself one http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
I think it's a fine looking car, despite the top-gear types saying it looks dull. Little do they know.

Nick,
The exhaust I went for is 2.5", cat back, single tail pipe. Cat looked in good nick, no missing/bent lattice bits from what I could see. Still got the std. nissan downpipe (with rattly heatshields). Got tubetorque to nip them up with spot welds, but they're working loose again.
Got the S14 (not a) so no cat in the downpipe, just one in the middle.

Tom

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1996 Blue/Green S14 (manual)
K&N cone filter
2.5" Tube-torque Cat Back Exhaust.
TechTom MDM-100
Race-Technology AP-22
http://tom.marshall.tripod.com

[Dave_S14]

I can get about 75mph in second gear in my S14. So could a friend of mine who had the same car.

[PB_S14]

Please excuse my ignorance but what does 'cat back' mean?

[Nick_Walczak]

Oh, I read a thread saying that the 200SX would not quite reach 60 in second. It must have been an S13.

Cat back presumably means that you keep your original cats and throw the rest of the exhaust away. The new exhaust is then designed to take the original cat(s).

[JohnD76]

Can get 75 in second too.

Have only tried 2 0-100kph's so far and have managed 6.6 with crap start and 2 up and 6.0 with better start and only one up. http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif

Exhaust, Air Filter and uprated dump valve made big difference.



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John (S14a)
Blitz Nur Spec R, SUS, MSTT, Dump Valve, and other tit bits..
222.8hp @ 6062 RPM
206.2lb ft @ 4755 RRM
http://mysmilies.com/cgi-bin/r.cgi?cwm/cwm

[SealLungDude]

I clocked 6.4 in mine in winter before it was modified, but I found hot weather killed the power - more so than in other 210+ish turbos I've driven, notably the UK Impreza and Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo. I blame the poxy kitkat sized standard intercooler stuffed in a corner of the engine bay.

-Steve

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1999 model year 200SX S14 manual
High flow Hiper exhaust, no cats, Super Flow induction, Dual friction clutch, front mounted intercooler, EVC4 boost controller (running at 1.1bar), dual-sequential blow-off valve, iridium spark plugs, boost gauge - all components are HKS
Racelogic Professional traction control with launch control
Tyres/wheels: 225/45 8" front, 245/40 8" rear
Current dyno at 303bhp, and only runs on super unleaded

[Rossy]

Sorry to jump on the thread.

My S14 also has no problems hitting 60 in 2nd, and its gotta be pretty close to 6 secs. (still not got an accelerometer Tom!).

I was down at ND on Tuesday getting a new Turbo and they reckon if I changed the front pipe and lost both CATs (S14a), it would really make a big difference. I have a HKS Dragger and I'm not getting the benefit that I could from it....as for a FMIC, thats next on the list!



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Ross
'97 S14a
HKS Super Dragger Exhaust
HKS Induction Kit
HKS Iridium Plugs
ND Turbo Actuator
ND T28 Super Hybrid Turbo
Eibach Springs
Skyline R33 330mm Brake Discs with Brembo Calipers
18'' Alloy Wheels
Clear Front and Side Indicators

[dave mca]

So is the performance of the pre-facelift S14 and the post-facelift S14( Si4a is it?) the same then. Because he`s asking the performance of a post facelift year 2000 (which i`ve just bought) and you fellas (well Tom at least) has got a 1996 pre face lift version. When buying mine i thought i come across info that said the Pre-facelift was 6.something and the post-facelift was 7.5.I hope to god my 97 post-facelifted version is 6.something but i fear it`s not.
Are they the same then???

[Bean]

As far as I'm aware the difference is purely cosmetic, nothing power related.

The S14 was originally meant to be more a sports tourer for the American market but they did a facelift to satisfy different markets, probably for the Jap and European countries.

I prefer cars without the big wheels and f*****g great spoilers, something that doesn't say "race me" or "steal me",

Of course I like to race people, I like it when people say, "what the hell is it?".

The only exterior change I'm planning is lowered/uprated springs, each to their own.

Damn I've been waffling, been drinking whisky again!



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Red 1995/S14
K&N, Private Plate

Any views expressed in this message are based solely on personal opinion.

[smoore_s14]

Bean -

From accelerometer tests with a friends 99 S14a that is totally standard, I can confirm that the 0-60 time is (an average taken over 5 runs)....

6.6 seconds.

'I prefer cars without the big wheels and f*****g great spoilers, something that doesn't say "race me" or "steal me", '

This isn't waffle, it's 100% true mate. The S14's subtlety is the reason I'm buying one. It'll eat most things yet doesn't say 'w@nker'.

Just ordered me new one - getting sports suspension pack, clear front and side indicators, and thats IT for the bodywork.

[Bean]

smoore_s14 > Glad you agree with me, a less conspicious car with no exterior modifications doesn't give the game away.

I am planning the odd engine mod, nothing major, say 250bhp for a start.

I take it your an IT person based in Fleet, Farnham? The majority of us are in IT on this board.

Incidentally, I'm only based in Camberley.

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Red 1995/S14
K&N, Private Plate

Any views expressed in this message are based solely on personal opinion.

[smoore_s14]

250 bhp - should eat most things on the way to work! ND 240 kit (£569+VAT) might be an idea....

Yup I'm in Fleet, fav road for speed has got to be the A31 to Winchester, seems the cops don't go near it!

[This message has been edited by smoore_s14 (edited 20-08-2001).]

[dave mca]

you dont by any chance know the prices of the other ND conversions do you? The catalogue doesn`t give the prices.

[Bean]

dave mca > What Catalogue have you got, is it the one specially for the S14? My one lists the stages and prices for each part they do.

The ND240 conversion is actually quoted as 243bhp includes Engine Tuning Stages 1, 2 and 3. That's Boost Upgrade, Exhaust and Filter.

For example, taking parts from the Catalogue:

K&N Induction Filter £100
Mongoose Exhaust £330
ND Boost Upgrade £134
(Of course you can use different parts)

Total Price £564 + Delivery.

ND do quote total prices to obtain each bhp figure, haven't got them listed.

Hope this helps?

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Red 1995/S14
K&N, Private Plate

Any views expressed in this message are based solely on personal opinion.

[Bean]

Sorry, completely misread your question.

Just see which parts you need for each stage and do the math.

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Red 1995/S14
K&N, Private Plate

Any views expressed in this message are based solely on personal opinion.

[smoore_s14]

The ND 270 kit is a LOT more - I think it was about £1500 including fitting. Not sure it's worth it unless you want to go 300bhp+ http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif.

[Bean]

The ND270 only has one more part than the 240 kit, an uprated Intercooler.

Not sure about fitting one of these because of what the insurers will say, might make some enquiries once I've past the ripe old age of 25?

Might consider the uprated wing mounted jobby though.

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Red 1995/S14
K&N, Private Plate

Any views expressed in this message are based solely on personal opinion.

[SealLungDude]

Originally posted by BeanS14:
The majority of us are in IT on this board.


Me too for my sins.



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1999 model year 200SX S14 manual
High flow Hiper exhaust, no cats, Super Flow induction, Dual friction clutch, front mounted intercooler, EVC4 boost controller (running at 1.1bar), dual-sequential blow-off valve, iridium spark plugs, boost gauge - all components are HKS
Racelogic Professional traction control with launch control
Tyres/wheels: 225/45 8" front, 245/40 8" rear
Current dyno at 303bhp, and only runs on super unleaded

[Shane Q]

Have a S14A which is standered besides exhaust and air filter and will do 0-60 in 6.5 seconds, also they are known to do 75 in second gear.

[RobertS14a]

blimey for a thread revived from 2001 :eek:

[Sideways14a]

Flipping nora :eek:

[BreadBin]

I was wondering who the hell all those dudes were :confused:
:wack:

[pizzaboy]

Hehe noobs have a habit of unintentionally bringing back zombie threads:). At least he's using the search button:nod::thumbs:.

[rgfinn]

haha i damn near started responding to this thread, but then i noticed the date, and then i did respond:rolleyes:

[Mike s14a]

iv heard it was around 7.4 as my starlet was faster 0-60 and standard that does 6.9

[Django67]

I was wondering who the hell all those dudes were :confused:
:wack:

LOL, me too! :)

Freaky to think my S14a would have just had its first MOT when this thread was active.

[rgfinn]

mine was less than a year old when this was started haha. maybe some of these guys owned it!!

[cleanhands]

Was just about to ask where they were getting all their 0-60 times from.

[marko14a]

I'd never even heard of a 200sx when this thread was going! In fact I couldn't even drive! :wack:

[luke_200sx]

I'd never even heard of a 200sx when this thread was going! In fact I couldn't even drive! :wack:

im the same lol and now i want one soo bad!!!

[mejulie]

60mph in second?.....all day long:sxoc:

[reds14a]

anyone got a 0-60 in an automatic? or am i the only fudd with 1!! :o

[markcro]

I have an official brochure and it quotes 7.3 seconds to 60mph.

[voodoo_melon]

mine was less than a year old when this was started haha. maybe some of these guys owned it!!

Mine was still sitting in a field somewhere and was registered 6 weeks later :D

[mark basford]

anyone got a 0-60 in an automatic? or am i the only fudd with 1!! :o


You are not the only fud bud!

Nothing wrong with the autobox, its just a tad slower to 60 by a second or so.

[Chriscooke]

I have an official brochure and it quotes 7.3 seconds to 60mph.

I'd say de-catting it with full exhaust plus an induction kit and you'll easilly be mid to low six seconds if they arn't as standard:nod:

[Grim]

wow look at the size of the signatures they used to allow on here!

[Shane Q]

Didnt even realise the thread was so old, my bad!!!!!

[Sideways14a]

I have an official brochure and it quotes 7.3 seconds to 60mph.

Its wrong, autocar tested it at 6.4 stock manual.

[markcro]

Its wrong, autocar tested it at 6.4 stock manual.

6.4s?! :eek: Wow! Was that an S14a?

[Sideways14a]

Autocar timed the s14 to 6.4 seconds 60, 16.4 seconds to 100mph which are very competitive times for a car even these days.
Evo mag has the sx down as 6.5 seconds as well.... and i have seen other figures in the mid 6s for stock cars in the past as well. Top speeds range from low 140s to nearly 150 stock as well.

Its because of this i always get a bit ruffled when i hear folk say the sx is kind of slow, as even as standard with 200hp and a dodgy 1st/2nd its blatantly not.:wack:

[bpsmurf]

autocar used my s14 in there magazine, this was bk wen they tested it against the ford probe :rolleyes::)