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[cloudandy]

What sort of parts and safety devices are necessary to enter the drift track days? Any advices?
:smash:

[PulsatingStar]

There pretty much arnt any for the drift days, but im sure if something looked really dangerous they would check it over :D

Lee

[cloudandy]

sounds good. Has anyone been drifting on the standard suspension on the track? Just wish my suspension would be ready by the tim:nod:

[PhilMorrison]

Midgers came 3rd in round 3 on standard suspension :notworthy

[cloudandy]

it would be alot harder the brake the traction right?
but what about the handling? since its easy to understeer
as well as over-steer at some point.

[PhilMorrison]

depends if it's dry or wet, in the wet a modified car does'nt really have much of an advantage over a standard car, as with the softer suspension u seem to get alot more warning and time to catch/correct the drift (my opinion, I'm not sure if others would agree???).. if ur planning on ugrading the suspension a bit at a time, the 1st mod should be ARB's IMO..

[cloudandy]

Did you put the boost down on a wet drift competition then?
sorry for being silly but whats ARB's IMO?
I'm planning to get the Teins suspension but its going to be
long for shipping.
Did you change the settings on different conditions in a D-race?
Seems like there is alot of things which needs to be prepared.

cheers

andy:thumbs:

[PhilMorrison]

nah boost stays the same :)

sorry ARB's are Anti Roll Bars, and I'm talking about uprated items :) and IMO is In My Opinion :thumbs:

if ur getting Teins thats fantastic, but don't let not having them stop u from drifting :)

I don't change any settings between races unless I'm experimenting with a new General setting.

[cloudandy]

I think it would take a while to get the right suspension set-up,
Did you spend a lot of time testing the settings?
Would setting it too hard would make it harder to drift and easier to spin?

[PazzaAE86]

The basic way to think of how to set a car up is that the harder you make the back, in relation to the front, the more the car will oversteer..

Now, if your car oversteers loads anyway, making the back harder and/or the front softer will increase oversteer levels even further and so with that in mind... To tame the oversteer tendancies, soften the back off and/or stiffen the front or do the opposite to increse oversteer tendancies. Its a balancing game, and i know what i just said sounds backwards but it is correct for general theory. (Usually, you would think, harder suspension = more grip.. And it does, but its the balance of these settings from front to back that allows you to alter the way you car drives)

And as Phil says, dont let your lack of fancy suspension prevent you from drifting. Its better to start out in a stock/lightly modified car (suspension wise) and learn from there. That way you can get used to the feel of your car and alter it as you see fit.

Anyway, as im pretty sure the stiff rear/soft front = oversteer theory will be contested (as it always is :D ), here is a chart explaining things a little more thoroughly, thanks to Yokohama/Advan and Club4ag:

http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20tech_pages/yokohama_tire_recommendations.htm

The only thing i do differantly is stripping wieght out of the car, simply to make it that bit lighter, aswell as giving me more strage space for tyres, tools etc. and ofcourse the alignment on the rear wheels (not in my case, im solid axle, but for the IRS guys).. Having less rear camber will make the car oversteer more easily, but it has the downside of not being able to put any grip down under acceleration and thus spinning out will be frequent and hard to avoid.

Hope that helps

Paz

[cloudandy]

Thanks pazza, nice to hear more people talking.
At the moment im running on standard suspension,
but it tends to understeer more than oversteer:whip: .
So trying to sort away to get abit more oversteer,
but its a great laugh still, having both at the same time.
Hope it would be better while my T28 is in with more power
on it.:)

[astraboy]

An easy way for oversteer is to increase the tyre pressures on the rear tyres. more pressure = less rubber in contact with the tarmac. I like to run 40+ psi on the rears and standard on the fronts.
If you have a set of "Drift rims" you can go even further by spraying armourall all over the tread blocks. you will eventually burn it off but by that time you'll know what you're doing and will not need to do it again.
astraboy.