View Full Version : Got pulled tonight
Tim\s13Auto
27-11-2003, 03:12
I finnished work at 10 tonight and headed off down the airfield road then hit the juction on to the main road, Now my ***** was still cold so i didnt boot just hit about 3000 rpm but the back end stepped out nothing major just a small tailslapper i let off and changed up next thing i see the blues in my mirror so i pull over and the copper comes up 2 me and says im driving dangerously i deny this he then gets the hump and checks my car 2 the last inch even making sure my washer bottle has fluid in it i mean ffs then trys to give me a producer now ive just taxed my mota this morning so ive got all my documents on me he seems to take offence at this and comments i have to the power to confisacate boy racers cars if i thijnk there being driven dangerously to which i reply im 30 years old and this aint a nova with a bake bean can on, He then says i can take the dangerous driving charge now or go 2 court my mate gets out of my car and says yeah no probs my solicitior will take this u have nothing on him. The copper then said take this as a warning im watching u, I mean wtf :furious: what is this new power they have can they confiscate cars at there discression if there in a bad mood ? effing ell its all gone mad im pissed off
They don't do themselves any favours do they? :furious:
Jezz_S13
27-11-2003, 08:27
typical. :mad:
:censored: :mad: :censored: Why is it that motorist get treated like criminals. Why cant the old bill just do there job properly, rather than just going for the easy targets all the time:mad:
Coppers like that are shit and deserve to be treated as such. :mad: :censored: :furious: :censored: :mad: :annoyed: :annoyed:
shadowninja
27-11-2003, 09:33
burglars dont have money
you need money to have cars
so fine motorists, its more profitable. christmas is coming up, who's gonna pay for the police's christmas dinners?
Theres a new law under the road traffic act which is mainly for boy racers at cruises, like if youve got your stereo on loud,doing burn outs/ doughnuts, genrally drivintg like tw*t. Basically they warn you and it gets noted on pnc, if you car is doing somthing like that again and they check on pnc they have the power to seize it if they want. You then have a choice pay a big fine or it gets scrapped/crushed.
I think its section 136 of the road traffic act but im not to sure as its new.
Wonfa
Originally posted by WONFA
Theres a new law under the road traffic act which is mainly for boy racers at cruises, like if youve got your stereo on loud,doing burn outs/ doughnuts, genrally drivintg like tw*t. Basically they warn you and it gets noted on pnc, if you car is doing somthing like that again and they check on pnc they have the power to seize it if they want. You then have a choice pay a big fine or it gets scrapped/crushed.
I think its section 136 of the road traffic act but im not to sure as its new.
Wonfa
Flame suit on......
I actually think that, if applied properly, this is a good thing
Jezz_S13
27-11-2003, 10:46
Originally posted by Dunk
Flame suit on......
I actually think that, if applied properly, this is a good thing
Me too Dunk 'cos there are some real arseholes about, but unfortunately an overzealous jumped up pig isn't likely to be reasonable enough about it and things like this happen.
He probably just found out about it and thought he would go and be clever and quote on the next car he pulled, i guess he missed the bit where you actually have to be doing somthing wrong first!
Originally posted by Jezz_S13
Me too Dunk 'cos there are some real arseholes about, but unfortunately an overzealous jumped up police officer isn't likely to be reasonable enough about it and things like this happen.
Agreed
Originally posted by WONFA
i guess he missed the bit where you actually have to be doing somthing wrong first!
You have to be doing something wrong to get a tug and associated grief?? That must be a new law as well then :rolleyes:
gaz.thomas
27-11-2003, 11:58
Originally posted by docwra
You have to be doing something wrong to get a tug
Friendly coppers 'round you then :eek:
Jezz_S13
27-11-2003, 12:02
Originally posted by gaz.thomas
Friendly coppers 'round you then :eek:
that'll be the fens for you.
Codemonkey
27-11-2003, 12:13
Seriously, put a formal complaint in. If he's acting like a tw*t he might do it again to someone else.
benblaney
27-11-2003, 12:59
You think that's bad? Try being a biker.
Only been pulled once on the bike ... sat at lights and the fuzz strolled over to me and asked me to "rev" the engine a few times as he proceded to walk round the back of the highly ilegal exhaust.
I'm fecked I thought, but none the less let all 955cc's out of the exhuast in one deffening roar ... looked over my shoulder to find the rozzer warming his hands up in the exhuast :rolleyes: :rolleyes: .
Lights went green ... and he beckoned me to continue my journey.
Frightened the living sh1te out of me ...... always thought the police had it in for Bikers and living a stones throw from Avebury would have thought they would allways be pulling me ........ but been done a lot more in the car than the Bike around here :confused:
benblaney
27-11-2003, 13:26
Originally posted by Johnny
but been done a lot more in the car than the Bike around here :confused:
Yes, but work it out in proportion to the mileage you do on the bike as opposed to in the car.
don'tmake a complaint. if u do u'll get a pull on site.. happoened to a mate up my way... just let it go.. u porobably drivea baettercar than him anyway and police are ****ers who can get u done for something all the time if they really want... nothing we can do about it.. u just have to bite ur lip and carry on... he was being a **** yes but what can u do... nought i'm afraid.
Tim\s13Auto
27-11-2003, 23:44
I was still not amused this morning so i went down to the local zoo and found a few things out. so here we go
Derbyshire Police has given the go-ahead for the implementation of Section 59 of the Police Reform Act of 2002, which gives power to police officers in uniform to seize any mechanically propelled vehicle which is committing, or has been committing, offences.
In most cases on the first occasion of being stopped, the driver will be given a warning which is recorded and lasts for 12 months. If the driver commits a similar offence again within that year, any officer can seize the vehicle being driven which will then be stored at a rota garage for up to 10 days before taken on to headquarters.
Only through completing a form, producing driving documents and paying a recovery fee in excess of £130 will the owner driver be able to recover his/her vehicle. In addition there will be a daily storage fee.
Ah great yet another way to make cash for the donut fund. Mind u it shows that copper was well out of line with me and i was thinking of making a complaint but i assume that would only put him in an ever better mood and he'd really be out to nail me.
:(
haulinass
28-11-2003, 08:14
Originally posted by benblaney
You think that's bad? Try being a biker.
yup gotta agree there.. you only have to be ridin a bike to get pulled over, ive been pulled many many times on a bike for no offence at all, had so many producer's and 14 day fixit's for exhausts,dark visor small number plates.. so if you are speeding your guaranteed to get pulled- so what happens? you fit an even smaller numbe plate and at the first sign of plod..... ta da.. you aint catchin me in your pile of crap volvo/vectra/range rover. and it's now northamptonshire police policy not to try to chase a motorcycle.:thumbs: as either the biker get's squished tryin to get away or the rozzer gets left for dead. a bad outcome for them either way.
Got a pull on my bike a couple of months back because it looked like I was following the car in front:confused: :wack: :confused:
Thing is I only ride a 250 Superdream:( , Doesn't really stand out from the crowd.
As I said at the start of the thread, the old bill just love easy targets. I mean, if they tried to nick a criminal they might have to do some work:eek:
haulinass
28-11-2003, 12:10
the secret to riding a bike like an aresehole is to never stand out... standard paintwork on a popular bike and no obvoius dayglo leathers or sticker's...and a little numberplate... that you.ve borrowed the numbers from a jcb...:D oh and learn to ride quickly that also helps.. not been nicked for 3 years on a bike !! and ive done a lot of miles,mostly at speed.. or on 1 wheel. you can't get away with that in a car:D
turbo pete
28-11-2003, 15:50
I owuld personally complain about the copper. I have contested three speeding cases and made coppers look complete fools in the dock at court and never suffered retribution on the roads. If the copper was out of order it is your duty to complain to ensure that his attitude is addressed.
I assume that before suggesting he was going to have you prosecuted for dangerous driving or what ever that he gave you a caution. If he did that means you are entitled to read a copy of the police and criminal evidence act 1984 PACE. Since they don't carry them round it is amusing sometimes to say. "I don't understand the words you have just said to me and accordingly I would like to excercise my right to view a copy of the PACE". At which point he is obliged to get another doughnut eating waste of space to come out with a copy for you to read. Thereby causing considerable grief to him and his colleagues. It is also likely that you will have the opportunity to speak directly to his superior. Thereby removing the monkey from the equation and allowing conversation with the organ grinder direct.
Remember to maintain a polite and courteous attitude at all times. There is no need to threaten the police officer. It is also worth bearing in mind that they are public servants paid for by you and me. They have a duty to help us even when they are attempting to prosecute you. If you don't understand their powers say that you want to speak to someone qualified to comment about the law. Namely a solicitor. The police only apply the law. They are not experts in law. As a result they sometimes get it wrong. They are only human. Despite the fact some think they are god.
Relevant section below. Seems very vague.
59 Vehicles used in manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance
(1) Where a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used on any occasion in a manner which-
(a) contravenes section 3 or 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (careless and inconsiderate driving and prohibition of off-road driving), and
(b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public,
he shall have the powers set out in subsection (3).
(2) A constable in uniform shall also have the powers set out in subsection (3) where he has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle has been used on any occasion in a manner falling within subsection (1).
(3) Those powers are-
(a) power, if the motor vehicle is moving, to order the person driving it to stop the vehicle;
(b) power to seize and remove the motor vehicle;
(c) power, for the purposes of exercising a power falling within paragraph (a) or (b), to enter any premises on which he has reasonable grounds for believing the motor vehicle to be;
(d) power to use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of any power conferred by any of paragraphs to (a) to (c).
(4) A constable shall not seize a motor vehicle in the exercise of the powers conferred on him by this section unless-
(a) he has warned the person appearing to him to be the person whose use falls within subsection (1) that he will seize it, if that use continues or is repeated; and
(b) it appears to him that the use has continued or been repeated after the the warning.
(5) Subsection (4) does not require a warning to be given by a constable on any occasion on which he would otherwise have the power to seize a motor vehicle under this section if-
(a) the circumstances make it impracticable for him to give the warning;
(b) the constable has already on that occasion given a warning under that subsection in respect of any use of that motor vehicle or of another motor vehicle by that person or any other person;
(c) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that such a warning has been given on that occasion otherwise than by him; or
(d) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that the person whose use of that motor vehicle on that occasion would justify the seizure is a person to whom a warning under that subsection has been given (whether or not by that constable or in respect the same vehicle or the same or a similar use) on a previous occasion in the previous twelve months.
(6) A person who fails to comply with an order under subsection (3)(a) is guilty of an offence and shall be liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(7) Subsection (3)(c) does not authorise entry into a private dwelling house.
(8) The powers conferred on a constable by this section shall be exercisable only at a time when regulations under section 60 are in force.
(9) In this section-
"driving" has the same meaning as in the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52);
"motor vehicle" means any mechanically propelled vehicle, whether or not it is intended or adapted for use on roads; and
"private dwelling house" does not include any garage or other structure occupied with the dwelling house, or any land appurtenant to the dwelling house.
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