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Leon
19-09-2003, 11:19
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - This was one guinea pig no one would have kept in a cage.


The fossil of a 1,500-pound (700 kg) animal, 9 feet (2.5 meters) long, belonged to a rodent -- an early ancestor of modern guinea pigs, researchers say.


Living eight million years ago in what is now Venezuela, the animal would have grazed and from a distance would have resembled a buffalo, the researchers report in Friday's issue of the journal Science.


Found in a remote area in 2000, the fossil mystified scientists who finally determined it was a specimen of Phoberomys pattersoni.


"Imagine a weird guinea pig but huge, with a long tail for balancing on its hind legs and continuously growing teeth," research team leader Marcelo Sanchez-Villagra of the University of Tubingen in Germany said in a statement.


At the time the area, 250 miles west of Caracas, was lush, with monster turtles, huge crocodiles and giant catfish in the rivers.


"Phoberomys is reported to be the largest rodent that ever existed," Sanchez-Villagra and colleagues in Venezuela and the United States wrote in the report.


"Reliable body mass estimates yield around 700 kg (1,500 pounds), more than 10 times the mass of the largest living rodent, the capybara."


Capybaras, which live in South America, are sheep-sized rodents that stand fairly upright compared to their smaller, crouching cousins. Like capybaras, the ancient rodent would likely have lived near water, wading into the shallows to graze, they said.


McNeill Alexander of the University of Leeds, one of the world's leading experts on animal body size and physiology, said it is a mystery why and how such huge rodents lived.


Its bones and teeth suggest the animal, nicknamed Goya, munched grass. Like other rodents, its teeth grew constantly as they were worn down by gnawing and grazing.


Larger animals are more successful grazers, Alexander said in a commentary, perhaps because they have bigger stomachs to digest their fibrous meals.


"The question that puzzles me is not how Phoberomys could have been so large, but why the overwhelming majority of rodents are so small," Alexander wrote.


Perhaps they were easier to catch and eat in a time when gigantic animals were common, he said.


"Small mammals commonly escape predators by retiring into a refuge such as a burrow," he added. "Large mammals, too big to burrow, can generally escape only by running."


While Goya would have had straight legs, unlike a guinea pig, it would not have been fleet of foot.

shadowninja
19-09-2003, 13:00
must be a real bugger to clean out Goya's pen.

and all that lettuce he'd go through!

great to hug tho :D

SFC
19-09-2003, 13:09
The missus loved this when she heard it on the radio this morning, started LHAO and making "neep neep" noises. :rolleyes:




:D

Leon
19-09-2003, 14:31
Originally posted by shadowninja
must be a real bugger to clean out Goya's pen.

and all that lettuce he'd go through!

great to hug tho :D

yeah, with fecking big teeth to bite you with too!

shadowninja
19-09-2003, 17:00
but their bites arent bad. i used to let them nibble my fingers. oh wait that's for the 2 inch high variant :D

i doubt it'd go meep meep. more like

ROAR!

:D

RazMan
19-09-2003, 17:11
Just think of the size of hutch it would need!! :eek: :eek:

shadowninja
19-09-2003, 22:44
not a problem. i'll move into the garage! Fluffy can have the house. :wack:

Deacon
19-09-2003, 23:22
imagine it shagging the rabbit also in the cage :wack:

shadowninja
19-09-2003, 23:37
hmm

guinea pigs do not shag. they just eat lettuce and look at you lovingly. stop talking nonsense!!!

Deacon
19-09-2003, 23:39
yes they do there inbred as well

2 wrongly sexed guinea pigs BRO AND SIS and we ended up with 16


:eek:

Leon
20-09-2003, 00:39
Originally posted by shadowninja
but their bites arent bad. i used to let them nibble my fingers. oh wait that's for the 2 inch high variant :D

i doubt it'd go meep meep. more like

ROAR!

:D

i had a hanster bite me once... didn't stop bleeding for ages

G'boy
20-09-2003, 00:43
Originally posted by *DeathStar*
yes they do there inbred as well

2 wrongly sexed guinea pigs BRO AND SIS and we ended up with 16


:eek:


LOL, same thing happened here :nod: but didn't end up with 16 though :eek: :eek: :eek:

Leon
20-09-2003, 00:48
we had hamsters that bred every 3 months
like the bloody waltons i can tell you

shadowninja
20-09-2003, 12:53
inbreds indeed. you're all wrong. next you'll be saying they wear straw hats and dungarees and sit around chewing on lengths of straw. (ok they can do the latter)

Matt_S
20-09-2003, 23:39
I thought you were talking about AndyF when I read the thread title....

:D

shadowninja
21-09-2003, 00:01
you're just being weird










:D