View Full Version : Plod really don't help themselves, do they........
They are not only increasing the number of speed cameras / "safety" vans etc. but are going to reduce the tolerances for speeding!
Well, done.
A real winner with the general public (well, those that can pay without causing too much hassle).
:annoyed: HELLO - DOESN'T PUBLIC OPINION COUNT ANYMORE? :annoyed:
Please tell me I am not alone in the opinion that the Police are now not much more than a joke (when they should be highly respected pillors of the community - remember that?)
Martin T
05-08-2003, 14:36
Originally posted by Ripper
They are not only increasing the number of speed cameras / "safety" vans etc. but are going to reduce the tolerances for speeding!
Well, done.
A real winner with the general public (well, those that can pay without causing too much hassle).
:annoyed: HELLO - DOESN'T PUBLIC OPINION COUNT ANYMORE? :annoyed:
Please tell me I am not alone in the opinion that the Police are now not much more than a joke (when they should be highly respected pillors of the community - remember that?)
You are not alone.
They're not all bad mate....
The speed camera thing is pi$$ing everyone off, but I can't blame the Police for them all... they don't put the cameras up....(well not your everyday bobby on the street)
I find alot of people who hate the Police have no real reason to hate them... and usually a friend of theirs has had a bad experience a long time ago.
People just seem to hate the Police without even having a valid reason.... a few people have, but they're in the minority....
People just like to hate the Police.....I don't see the point personally... just my opinion of course!
I saw a Plod at out local Tesco's petrol station when I was filling up my Astra on Friday afternoon.
I thought he looked like a tw@, so was glaring evilly at him constantly. I stopped to pick up a bunch of flowers for my girlfriend, then was getting into my car as Plod drove past...
Can you guess what he shouted to gain my respect????
"In the doghouse are we???"
What a twat! Luckily he was already moving, or I'd have done something I regretted.... At least I know he's never bought a woman flowers just for the hell of it... if he's ever had a woman at all! :rolleyes: I can see now why policemen only ever marry policewomen - they share the same twattish atitude and general air of 'I'm better than you'. :mad:
Twats, every last one of them :mad: :furious: :censored:
Originally posted by Geeza
People just like to hate the Police.....I don't see the point personally... just my opinion of course!
In my experience, they have been nothing short of useless.
Originally posted by Geeza
They're not all bad mate....
People just seem to hate the Police without even having a valid reason.... a few people have, but they're in the minority....
People just like to hate the Police.....I don't see the point personally... just my opinion of course!
I've been threatened, sworn at, tailgated closely, bullied and generally victimised by the Ploice for having a fast car and attending car meets...
I have given them the benefit of the doubt time and time again, but I have now seriously lost my last shred of respect for them..
The final straw was being pulled over for going too slowly over speed bumps... The time I was pulled for not speeding in the wet by a copper who was sat 3" off my bumper didn't help either :mad:
I've said it before, and it will take a LOT to change my mind:
Twats, every last one of them :mad:
Going too slowing over speed humps!!!!! :eek:
That is bad!.....
Some of them are twats, but most of them are just doing a fecking hard job, whilst being cronicley (spelling?) under staffed!
Originally posted by JackaL
I can see now why policemen only ever marry policewomen - they share the same twattish atitude and general air of 'I'm better than you'. :mad:
Very true, I used to know two cops and this was the case. Nobady else would touch them.
Originally posted by Geeza
Some of them are twats, but most of them are just doing a fecking hard job, whilst being cronicley (spelling?) under staffed!
Courtesy costs nothing.
And I don't care how hacked off they are. "Thank You" "Please" doesn't hurt.
And I am not going to respect them for Being The Police. This is not the 1950's I'm afraid, I personally have no respect for anyone just "because I should". Respect is earnt not given as a matter of course. And until the forces shape up and get their acts in order, then I personally am not going to give them my respect.
On a 1-2-1 basis, perhaps yes. As a conglomeration of individuals? Not at the moment.
One of my mates is going to go into the force (not that I think they'll take him unless they are really desperate), and I can't help but laugh every time he says that he's going to be out there in the squad car or whatever.
Originally posted by dunc
Very true, I used to know two cops and this was the case. Nobady else would touch them.
but the police uniform is a hot ticket on any stripper....
so i'm told...
mickstreet
05-08-2003, 15:11
Why tarr all coppers with the same brush? There are LOADS of them so you are going to get some twats, it's just that you remember those more. What about the copper that died trying to save a child in a lake a few months ago? Is he a twat????? Don't think his wife and kids would think so.
I have got a few mates who are coppers and let me tell you, its bloody hard work. Public opinion is one of the hardest things they have to overcome, they get abuse from people without ANY reason whatsoever. Like I say, there are some who can warrent this, but again, its these that stick in your mind.
As for speed cameras, they have absolutely nothing to do with them so why have a go at them?
If people started to give them a break then they may have more time to do what they are paid for and what we have a go at them for in the first place!
Originally posted by Geeza
The speed camera thing is pi$$ing everyone off, but I can't blame the Police for them all... they don't put the cameras up....(well not your everyday bobby on the street)
Geeza - The phrase "everyday bobby on the street" means nothing to me.
What's that, then? :rolleyes:
I don't hate coppers - but I have seriously diminshed respect for them and never see one unless it is to do with motoring.
Please tell me I am not alone in this, either (?)
PS Remember, the Chief C u ntsables decide traffic policy. THEY are to blame for this out-of-touch, easy money, punish the good guys policy.
Sorry, Geeza, but "W A N K E R S" springs to mind......:annoyed: :annoyed: :annoyed: :annoyed: :annoyed:
Originally posted by Geeza
Going too slowing over speed humps!!!!! :eek:
That is bad!.....
Some of them are twats, but most of them are just doing a fecking hard job, whilst being cronicley (spelling?) under staffed!
Their is certainly an element of mis-management - using them to catch speeders, not caring about normal crimes, and what I consider to be the greatest evil of them all.... TARGET MEETING :mad:
But, that still doesn't explain the attitudes of individual officers I have encountered. FFS, where in teh police training manual does it tell you to swear at pedestrians??? I demanded and recieved an apology for that, and if I hadn't got one I was going to oficcialy compalin. Plus the threats of violence - a copper threatened to break my windscreen with his stick - again unjustifiably!
I wouldn't pi$$ on a copper if I saw one burning in the street. Damn the lot of them! The only time I ever reported a crime their attitude was 'Here's your crime reference for your insurance, now fook off!'
I hear ya Mick.....
I know quite a few Police men and women and their not muppets....
Originally posted by mickstreet
Why tarr all coppers with the same brush? There are LOADS of them so you are going to get some twats, it's just that you remember those more. What about the copper that died trying to save a child in a lake a few months ago? Is he a twat????? Don't think his wife and kids would think so.
I have got a few mates who are coppers and let me tell you, its bloody hard work. Public opinion is one of the hardest things they have to overcome, they get abuse from people without ANY reason whatsoever. Like I say, there are some who can warrent this, but again, its these that stick in your mind.
As for speed cameras, they have absolutely nothing to do with them so why have a go at them?
If people started to give them a break then they may have more time to do what they are paid for and what we have a go at them for in the first place!
Well yes Mick (see my above comments).
The copper who died in the lake - did he do this because he was a cop or because he was a humanitarian?
And as for public opinion, yes, but there are reasons for that - ie being ineffectual in so many cases. Sadly :(
I have known a few cops and they are very nice people and get my respect on a 1-2-1. On duty officers... Sorry, I've never ever got on with them. Just my personal experience.
I'm not saying they're not nice people inside, but I've yet to meet a copper who was polite, friendly and helpful while on duty...
I've been overtaken on the M4 by an 'Accident Investigation' cop car travelling in excess of 100mph with no lights on - if our positions were reversed I'd probably be in jail right about now!
And their increasing use of their powers to confiscate cars and destroy them is becoming almost fascist and dictatorial.
I would not even let an off-duty copper in my house, such is my dislike of them.
mickstreet
05-08-2003, 15:20
Originally posted by Starionman
Well yes Mick (see my above comments).
The copper who died in the lake - did he do this because he was a cop or because he was a humanitarian?
And as for public opinion, yes, but there are reasons for that - ie being ineffectual in so many cases. Sadly :(
I have known a few cops and they are very nice people and get my respect on a 1-2-1. On duty officers... Sorry, I've never ever got on with them. Just my personal experience.
Yes, I agree, the copper who died probably would have done the same if he wasn't a copper. But you get good/bad in all walks of life, I just didn't think it was fair that all police were made out to be this or that.
I agree with your comments though, its down to personal experience.
:sleep: yawn ... same old record over and over again. :sleep:
I think the posts on "whats the widest amount of rubber I can put on standard rims" are more productive.
They at least end with a volly of abuse from the search police.
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Bout time someone played track 5 again ... "why arnt they out catching real ciminals"
rant over.
:sleep:
Originally posted by Johnny
:sleep: yawn ... same old record over and over again. :sleep:
I think the posts on "whats the widest amount of rubber I can put on standard rims" are more productive.
They at least end with a volly of abuse from the search police.
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Bout time someone played track 5 again ... "why arnt they out catching real ciminals"
rant over.
:sleep:
ROTFLMAO :D :D :D
Totally agree!:wave:
Martin T
05-08-2003, 15:34
Individually at least 1/2 of them are fine/ As a group they are useless to the average Law abiding citizen. We can thank our governments for this.
Originally posted by Johnny
:sleep: yawn ... same old record over and over again. :sleep:
I think the posts on "whats the widest amount of rubber I can put on standard rims" are more productive.
They at least end with a volly of abuse from the search police.
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.
.
.
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Bout time someone played track 5 again ... "why arnt they out catching real ciminals"
rant over.
:sleep:
Exactly how I wouldlike to feel.... :(
Have you ever been pulled over for driving too slowly, or threatened by a copper for no reason? These things incite quite a lot of feeling, and I'd happily listen to anyone who has anything nice to say about the plod :)
Criminal justice in this country is currently on a very slippery slope, and if we all ignore it things will only get worse. If all we can do is rant over and over again then I think we should, as it raises the issues in peoples minds again and again, and might make people think about how to resolve the problems :)
I would like to respect the Police, but it's not in my power to influence their behaviour. PErhaps any reading this will think carefully about how they present themselves and act in public... If I followed their behaviour to date, I would be a petty, violent and abusive twat... When I am in no way violent or abusive! ;)
Originally posted by Martin T
Individually at least 1/2 of them are fine
:D :D heh heh ... you should work for the government or the MOD with guesses like that.
The Metropolitan police have 26,390 oficers alone .... so I guess in the london area you have come in contact with 13,000 odd of them ???? ;)
Out of interest .......... did Tony blair approach you for info on WMD in Iraq ;) :p
P.s. ....... dont even jokingly answer the above ... if there watching you ... youll be assasinated for sure ! :eek:
IMHO The problem stems from the idea the police have about how the public should treat them.
As an organisation they project this image of 'Respect us cos we're the old bill' - which is the quickest way to wind up a race as mental as the British.
Then at the same time, we get bombarded with 'We're a caring sharing community organisation etc'
Whilst on the flipside there's the 'We're untouchable cos we're plod, got a problem with us? we'll just investigate ourselves thank you very much'
Most peoples experiences are of strange initiatives such as the one implemented in Horsham a while ago....
In an effect to reduce petty fri/sat night crime in the town, they had a period of sending in fleets of riot vans, and just nicking any (and I mean ANY ) male under the age of 30 who wasn't sober and was walking between pubs.... My little bro got picked up with three of his mates whilst they were stood outside a pub waiting for a taxi at 8pm... after two pints... The old bill rolled up. Piled out and started asking questions, pushing and shoving them, then searched them and generally wound them up until one of the lads told them to pi55 off - result? Nicked the lot, in the cells for the night, two got a good kick or two in the back of the wagon then released without charge.
:censored: :censored:
Did it reduce crime? Nope - no crime was, or would have been committed.
Did it look good on the figures? Yep
What did it achieve? Only to alienate four lads, plus mates, plus family, plus witnesses even further.
The Police spend a considerable amount of time telling us what a hard time they get from the public.... Is it any bladdy wonder?
Originally posted by JackaL
Exactly how I wouldlike to feel.... :(
Well .... in fairness I have led a sheltered life when it comes to the police ... all my clashes with them they have always been more than curteous and fair to me.
Been stopped twice for speeding .. one of those times I out ran the Wilshire unmarked Accord type R around the twisties :D ... finally let them catch up .... and they put there blues on and pull me :rolleyes:
They were as nice as pie to me on both occasions
spent an hour in Jail due to being reported for breaking into a house at 2 am in the morning ... turns out I was dropping a bag round to a friends house on the way home from the pub :rolleyes:
So nothing excessive I'll agree but I have never experienced a bad police officer ....... They even let me keep my licence for a couple of days over the 7 day handing in period, so I could do my bike test after I got stopped speeding.
Going on this, I can only assume that either you bring it on your self ...... Which I know you will all deny ... which leads me to my second theory ... I am just damned lucky to have got the 4 or 5 officers out of (I guess) 200,000 that are good blokes.
I guess until someone screws me over .. I will rightly defend them
Originally posted by Johnny
Well .... in fairness I have led a sheltered life when it comes to the police ... all my clashes with them they have always been more than curteous and fair to me.
Been stopped twice for speeding .. one of those times I out ran the Wilshire unmarked Accord type R around the twisties :D ... finally let them catch up .... and they put there blues on and pull me :rolleyes:
They were as nice as pie to me on both occasions
spent an hour in Jail due to being reported for breaking into a house at 2 am in the morning ... turns out I was dropping a bag round to a friends house on the way home from the pub :rolleyes:
So nothing excessive I'll agree but I have never experienced a bad police officer ....... They even let me keep my licence for a couple of days over the 7 day handing in period, so I could do my bike test after I got stopped speeding.
Going on this, I can only assume that either you bring it on your self ...... Which I know you will all deny ... which leads me to my second theory ... I am just damned lucky to have got the 4 or 5 officers out of (I guess) 200,000 that are good blokes.
I guess until someone screws me over .. I will rightly defend them
I can say quite happily that I don't bring it on myself. I particularly didn't like being tailgated through a 30 zone in the wet by a copper, who pulled me over and lectured me about stopping distances. To say the least I was rude and discorteous to him, but as I'd done nothing wrong he couldn't nick me, and believe me he wanted to by the time I'd finished laying into him!
Maybe I'm unlucky, maybe there are decent coppers out there, but it only takes the actions of one to affect my opinion of the force as a whole... Now imagine you've met, say, 6 bad coppers. What are you going to think the rest are like?
I don't claim to have any any answers, but it seems even young kids these days don't have any respect for them. If they want to reduce this decline in respect, they need to start being a little more polite, but at the same time strict to those who have done anything illegal. I imagine it is one of the hardest jobs going, but if soem coppers aren;t up to the mark they should be shown the door - not kept on purely because nobody else wants the job! It seems like a vicious circle to me... keep bad coppers because nobody wants the job - nobody wants the job because it's hard - bad coppers make it hard for the rest. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by JackaL
Now imagine you've met, say, 6 bad coppers. What are you going to think the rest are like?
Granted you will feel bad ... but going around calling them all ****ers and saying you wouldnt piss on them if they were burning etc . .. a little out of order
Where is the difference between that and having a run in with 6 black youths ... and declaring that all black people are ****ers and you wouldnt piss on them if they were on fire????
And before you go on about it not being the same ... it is exactly the same ... you are pre-judging a whole group of people on the few you have met... it doesnt matter if they are of a different race a different sex have a different sexual preference or a have a different job.
We have police officers on this board ... how do you think they feel listening to this volly of hatred and abuse .............. I dont mind you critisising the police force and the goverment and the courts ........ but the abusive hate posts written towards then, quite frankly are out of order.
:nod:
Fight Fight Fight Fight!!!
mickstreet
05-08-2003, 16:44
Originally posted by Johnny
Granted you will feel bad ... but going around calling them all ****ers and saying you wouldnt piss on them if they were burning etc . .. a little out of order
Where is the difference between that and having a run in with 6 black youths ... and declaring that all black people are ****ers and you wouldnt piss on them if they were on fire????
And before you go on about it not being the same ... it is exactly the same ... you are pre-judging a whole group of people on the few you have met... it doesnt matter if they are of a different race a different sex have a different sexual preference or a have a different job.
We have police officers on this board ... how do you think they feel listening to this volly of hatred and abuse .............. I dont mind you critisising the police force and the goverment and the courts ........ but the abusive hate posts written towards then, quite frankly are out of order.
:nod:
Well said that man.
Originally posted by Johnny
Granted you will feel bad ... but going around calling them all ****ers and saying you wouldnt piss on them if they were burning etc . .. a little out of order
Where is the difference between that and having a run in with 6 black youths ... and declaring that all black people are ****ers and you wouldnt piss on them if they were on fire????
And before you go on about it not being the same ... it is exactly the same ... you are pre-judging a whole group of people on the few you have met... it doesnt matter if they are of a different race a different sex have a different sexual preference or a have a different job.
We have police officers on this board ... how do you think they feel listening to this volly of hatred and abuse .............. I dont mind you critisising the police force and the goverment and the courts ........ but the abusive hate posts written towards then, quite frankly are out of order.
:nod:
Some very good points.... I certainly don't have any hatred towards any other groups of people! I think the reason I hate the Police is purely because they can and do threaten you with this, that and the other for no reason. They love to scare you into doing what they want, in my experience at least. If you stand up to them it can cut them down to size very quickly - but only if you have done nothing wrong. I seem to have met only the bullies, and I HATE bullies... weak cowardly individuals they are... Threatening me with violence and arrest for having done nothing illegal. I believe that is justification for a small ammount of dislike. To say I discriminate against them is a valid point (but I have my reasons as detailed)... To say they discriminate against me would also be a valid point, only they have no excuse IMHO.
If I was a policeman I wouldn't like to read this thread, and yes it is offensive, but that doesn't excuse the behaviour displayed towards me on numerous occasions. I have been openly offensive to a number of officers who have shown me no respect, threatened me, or pulled me for no valid reason. I will do so again so long as I have done nothing wrong.
EDIT: I'm only ever offensive once I've been threatened/insulted/wrongly accused with no evidence first.
It would only take one polite copper to change my viewpoint... but to date I've met none :(
Anyway, I'm fully angered-out, and am going home to chill :)
Originally posted by Dunk
Most peoples experiences are of strange initiatives such as the one implemented in Horsham a while ago....
Blimey, in all the time that I've been out drinking in Horsahm I've never seen so much as one old bill...
Originally posted by Starionman
Blimey, in all the time that I've been out drinking in Horsahm I've never seen so much as one old bill...
Thats cos they knew you and your leather chaps were in town....
No - this initiative lasted about two months. Then they reverted to the usual "ZERO POLICING" Policy..
Originally posted by Dunk
Fight Fight Fight Fight!!!
:p
No such luck I'm afraid, I don't like violence, and really don't like getting angry either :) I'd quite happily live a peaceful stress-free life if I could!
Originally posted by JackaL
:p
No such luck I'm afraid, I don't like violence, and really don't like getting angry either :) I'd quite happily live a peaceful stress-free life if I could!
Never remember you taking stuff this seriously..
In my defence ;) I have no criminal record or cautions, have never been involved in a fight, hardly ever drink, and am generally a law-abiding citizen.
I have only ever been to court once for speeding, to which I freely admit I was in the wrong :)
Originally posted by Dunk
Thats cos they knew you and your leather chaps were in town....
No - this initiative lasted about two months. Then they reverted to the usual "ZERO POLICING" Policy..
Ahh
must have been during one of my many "not going out" phases.
They don't stop the underage drinkers tho, do they?!?!
Originally posted by Starionman
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They don't stop the underage drinkers tho, do they?!?!
How would you pull if they did? :D
Originally posted by Dunk
How would you pull if they did? :D
:eek:
SO RUDE!
You're coming in for a slapping young man...
Did you get my PM btw?
I'm older than you anyhows....
PM? Yep - will reply on Thursday - no rush....
Originally posted by Dunk
I'm older than you anyhows....
:confused:
how does that related to your impending slapping?
you called me young man.
I'm harder than you cos I got tattoos
Originally posted by Dunk
you called me young man.
I'm harder than you cos I got tattoos
I'll have tats soon-ish
you've not got a mohawk tho.
or long eyelashes that women would die for. you see, I've got an army of females who would kill with their delicately manicured hands before seeing harm come to one of my lashes - which they all aspire to but can't obtain even withthe best curling tongs...
I've got long eyelashes too - I know what ya mean with the female swoon capability. Very cool.
Erm.....
I'm harder than you cos I've done 188mph on a *ahem* private road...
Originally posted by Ripper
They are not only increasing the number of speed cameras / "safety" vans etc. but are going to reduce the tolerances for speeding!
Well, done.
A real winner with the general public (well, those that can pay without causing too much hassle).
:annoyed: HELLO - DOESN'T PUBLIC OPINION COUNT ANYMORE? :annoyed:
Please tell me I am not alone in the opinion that the Police are now not much more than a joke (when they should be highly respected pillors of the community - remember that?)
You are not alone :censored: :censored: :furious: :furious: :furious: :smash: :annoyed: :mad: :mad:
Originally posted by Dunk
I've got long eyelashes too - I know what ya mean with the female swoon capability. Very cool.
Erm.....
I'm harder than you cos I've done 188mph on a *ahem* private road...
I'm harder than youy coz...
erm...
errmm
I've got 3 Starions and a Motorbike and a very cool rocker bass :)
They arent all bad......
The ones i have met have all been ok, the ones that dealt with my accident were very nice considering they had just whitnessed me jump a red light and writeoff a BEEEMA! :D
Strangely i met the same cozza exactly two years to the day later, when he stopped me when i was on my mountain bike, on suspision of mugging an old lady (turns out he was wearing exactly what i was wearing........should have taken more time over my clothing choice :rolleyes:) after the bussiness of sorting my id searching me etc etc we had a bit of a laught about my accident, which he remembered quite well....asked what happend tomy car saying "you know you wrote that beema off dont you?!" towhich i reply, "yeh £200 of damge to mine:thumbs:" he he he gave him and his lille mate a mint to show no hard feelings and we went our separate ways.....
I do however have a problem with traffic cops, All they do all day it try as hard as they can to catch people speeding.......sure they dont really but thats how it seems:mad:
I have even more against whoever is responcible for speed cameras.....especially pointless ones (99% of them then).
gurr....
Originally posted by SMiFFAD
should have taken more time over my clothing choice :rolleyes:
can tell you're not gay...
Originally posted by SMiFFAD
writeoff a BEEEMA! :D
Good lad, thats one less to contend with :D
Originally posted by dunc
Good lad, thats one less to contend with :D
LOL
I like Beemas.
They have pretty strong roofs so you can put other cars on top of em in the scrappy ;)
Originally posted by Starionman
LOL
I like Beemas.
They have pretty strong roofs so you can put other cars on top of em in the scrappy ;)
You had me worried for a second there mate ;)
Originally posted by dunc
You had me worried for a second there mate ;)
:rolleyes:
purr-leaze
Originally posted by JB
You are not alone :censored: :censored: :furious: :furious: :furious: :smash: :annoyed: :mad: :mad:
Thank goodness for that, JB!
To all those that have said this is a negative thread etc. I have two things to say:-
1) Things don't change unless people vent their objections accordingly
2) Anyone who thinks I have been a tad harsh on our over-worked Police should consider the following; Wait until YOU have to ring Plod for something and see what response you get and (finally) see how you feel when you've been pulled over for bugger-all and they treat you like it's a Nazi interrogation - for absolutely no reason.
Respect? Yeah, ok.........
PS How about JB's Dad who eased through a set of red traffic lights and pulled over to allow a Plod car on an emergency to get through - and then they came round later and booked him for it!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Still, they do a great job..........
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