Apex S13 S14 Time Attack BDC EDC etc full roll cage group buy - in stock

[bren]

UPDATE 10.10.11 Forget the GB numbers, just come and fill your boots. Theyre available immediately at the GB prices, its first come first served :)

LIMITED STOCK, GET YOUR NAME DOWN NOW TO AVOID DISSAPOINTMENT!

These are hugely specced and easily surpass the MSA cage requirements. Theyre 2011 EDC, Time Attack and BDC compliant. JDM All Stars in theory want the door bars welded together and the sandwich plates welding to the car floor but Ive been told of no end of people who have been allowed to run with non full compliant chages.

The cages are designed to run with the full standard interior. Youll just lose the sun visors. If you run both door bars on the S14 then make sure the bolt heads are outward facing (rather than the bolt thread) as the bars and bolts will foul on the door card slightly. This doesnt prevent the operation of the door and it can still be closed. The door bar will force an indent into the door card over time and the door will become easier and easier to close.

Specifications:

Theyre true bolt in cages so no welding of support brackets, just drill and bolt, job done.

S14 is through dash, S13 is miss dash. S13 has plenty of room for entry exit with the legs missing dash wheras the S14 need to run through dash due to design of the door cards.

Basic cage specifications

Finished in black
45 diameter 2.5mm wall thickness cold drawn steel
Twin bolt fixings at 90 degree for all tube mounting points
All the bolts are 8.8 tensile strength
Sandwich plates to mount under the floor and bolt to the cage feet
Far exceed official MSA roll cage specifications

Full cages:

6 point fixing
Main hoop
Rear stays
Removable twin door bars
Removable rear horizontal
Removable rear diaganol
Front legs
Front upper screen bar
Pre painted in black - note that other companies charge extra for finish, they supply in bare metal
Fitting kit with all nuts, bolts, washers and sandwich plates

Rear cage - ask about availability

Four point fixing
Main hoop
Rear stays
Removable rear diaganol
Removable rear horizontal
Fitting kit with all nuts, bolts, washers and sandwich plates

Every single cage has been assembled in our warehouse before it was packed ready for dispatch.

Some of the S13 cages were originally designed for single point fixing door bars and as such we have redrilled the door bars to allow twin bolting to meet BDC regulations. There is just one extra hole in each main hoop at the door bar mounting point.

Prices

Retail price on the full cage £499, half cage £219.

If we get 10+ then Ill do them for £359 and £179 a piece.

NOTE: ONCE STOCK HAS GONE IT HAS GONE, THERE ARE NO CURRENT PLANS TO MANUFACTURE ANY MORE OF THESE CAGES!

Prices INCLUDE vat

UK carriage is £17.63 per half cage, £30 per full cage. Again, our prices include vat and offer yet another saving over other companies cages :thumbs:

When are they availabe?

The full cages are in stock and ready to ship. Theyve been built in house, checked, approved, dissasembled and packed. As soon as we hit the required numbers then we will dispatch.

Half cages will be assembelled to order but theyre still available from stock.

Note that the cages are manufactured to a tight tolorance so we may have removed paint from the end of bars to allow them to slot into the corresponding socket if the paint makes the diameter of the bar too great for an easy fit. You cant see the paint free section as it lives within the correspondign socket. This is something that you would have had to do so we have just made your life easier so dont be complaining to us if theres no paint at the end of one of more tubes. ;)

Also note that we will NOT be held responsible for any damage to paint finish that occours during transit. The cages are packed well but theyre big, heavy objects and if the courier is particularly rough during transit then there maybe the odd mark or scratch.

Think of the black finish as an added bonus rather than a given.

Full cage

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To help generete interest and get the numbers just need add the following to your signature. Just change the + signs for =

Apex S13 and S14 BDC, Time Attack, EDC etc roll cage group buy. Details here

[Niclas_AB]

I'm interested in a cage for an s13 chassi. What would shipping to Sweden cost?

[bren]

£104.99. They have to be sent as three packages so it works out expensive. if you got a group of you together in Sweden who wanted cages then I could look at sending a pallet to bring the individual carriage prices down :)

[skidder166]

Hi there,

I would be interested in the s14 half cage. Do you have any pictures? So i can visualize it better?

[bren]

S14 rear:

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=74489&stc=1&d=1318241381

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=74490&stc=1&d=1318241388

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=74491&stc=1&d=1318241393

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=74492&stc=1&d=1318241398

Note that the S13 rear cages will now have the fixings for the front cages on the main hoop. S14 are normal rear cage.

Also note that the mounting tab design is now superior to that design but it gives you an idea. Have a look at the full cage pics to see how the diaganol and horizontal now fixes to the main hoop.

[Niclas_AB]

Ok, I will try to see what kind of interest we have here in Sweden :) How many do we need to be so that i gets cheaper as a pallet?
And when is the deadline for this offer?

[bren]

Ill get some shipping quotes, can you pm me a suitable delivery address. The GB finishes when we sell out of cages. We currently have:

17x S14 full cages
19x S14 rear cages without front cage fixings
5x S13 full cages
6x S13 full cages with single door bars
26x S13 rear cages with front cage fixings

S13 full cage install pics:

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=74493&stc=1&d=1318245296

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=74494&stc=1&d=1318245302

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=74496&stc=1&d=1318245320

[skidder166]

Ok thanks,

So the rear cage is a loose the rear interior job?

Thanks

[bren]

No, we kept the full interior in my V8 S14.

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=74501&stc=1&d=1318255422

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=74502&stc=1&d=1318255427

[bren]

Tell you what, forget the GB, just come and take them on first come first served vbasis. Once theyve gone theyve gone!

Niclas,

If you want to secure a cage for you whilst you look fro additional numbers then you can pay upfront. I cant hold a kit without payment as we have been let down too many times in the past doing just that :(

[Niclas_AB]

Ok Bren, I will take 1 full cage for S13 with two sidebars. I will contact and pay you tomorrow as I guess you're closed for they day now?
We are now 3 people wanting cages in Sweden, please let me know when you get a price for a pallet.
Thank you :)
/ Niclas

[skidder166]

Looks really good.

Any tips on marking up where to cut the rear plastics?

[Alex B]

Is the picture you've posted the complete cage, as the listing states rear diagonal, rear horizontal, removable rear diagonal and removable rear horizontal, the picture only shows one of each?

Is the rear horizontal suitable for a harness fixing, or is it too far away?

Cheers
Alex B

[shogun]

S13 full cage including all bars (diagonal, horizontal etc). Harness fits perfectly to horizontal bar. Position of seat in car on last picture show you seat alligned with b-pillar on car (where the big cage loop is placed). In first picture I am sitting too far forwards. Should give you a clue about distance for harness/horizontal bar.

http://200sx.kicks-ass.net/shogun/img4b1d6d0f4df62.jpg

http://200sx.kicks-ass.net/shogun/img426016ab97609.jpg

http://200sx.kicks-ass.net/shogun/img42bef560be6f2.jpg

[Alex B]

Woops, should have said, it'll be for the S14a :)

Alex B

[shogun]

No big difference between the two versions mate :thumbs:

[BLAKTOOTH]

Can you offer these in different colours?

[bren]

Ok Bren, I will take 1 full cage for S13 with two sidebars. I will contact and pay you tomorrow as I guess you're closed for they day now?
We are now 3 people wanting cages in Sweden, please let me know when you get a price for a pallet.
Thank you :)
/ Niclas

Ive replied to your PM and we are looking for shipping quotes now :)


Looks really good.

Any tips on marking up where to cut the rear plastics?

I can try to measure the hole centre but it was a case of drilling a small hole and then making it bigger.


Is the picture you've posted the complete cage, as the listing states rear diagonal, rear horizontal, removable rear diagonal and removable rear horizontal, the picture only shows one of each?

Is the rear horizontal suitable for a harness fixing, or is it too far away?

Cheers
Alex B

The first pictures show exactly what you get, the listing just repeated itself.

You can use the horztonal for harness fixture :nod:


Woops, should have said, it'll be for the S14a :)

S14 and s14a are the same :)

Alex B


Can you offer these in different colours?

Nope, all black.

[Szwuntex]

Ok Bren, I will take 1 full cage for S13 with two sidebars. I will contact and pay you tomorrow as I guess you're closed for they day now?
We are now 3 people wanting cages in Sweden, please let me know when you get a price for a pallet.
Thank you :)
/ Niclas

@Bren
It's me who wants the other 2 cages.
I want 2 "4 point rear roll cages" for S13.
I guess it's good to have this information when you are looking for shipping quotes :)

How do we solve the payment?

/ Jerker

[Alex B]

Cool, can you add an S14 full cage to my toe arm invoice please :thumbs:

Thanks
Alex B

[bren]

@Bren
It's me who wants the other 2 cages.
I want 2 "4 point rear roll cages" for S13.
I guess it's good to have this information when you are looking for shipping quotes :)

How do we solve the payment?

/ Jerker

You can pay by bank transfer, Paypal or credit card. We are just gathering shipping quotes now :)


Cool, can you add an S14 full cage to my toe arm invoice please :thumbs:

Thanks
Alex B

Done and sent :)

[Alex B]

Done and sent :)

Money sent :nod:

Alex B

[MartinL]

U got PM...

[acs]

Hi

Can I get a price for a full S13 cage shipped to Jersey please?

Thanks
Adi

[bren]

Money sent :nod:

Alex B

Cool :)


U got PM...

Ill go through my PMs shortly.


Hi

Can I get a price for a full S13 cage shipped to Jersey please?

Thanks
Adi

£433.97 delivered.

[acs]

Cool sorry for the delay work wrecks everything?

Is the cage MSA approved or do I have to get them to check and pass it?

[bren]

I dont believe there is such a thing. Im not aware tha MSA pre-approve any product. They are built to MSA Blue Book spec as a base and then on top of that have an extra door bar each side, double bolted cage to cage fixings, rear horizontal and rear diaganol, none of which are required by MSA regs.

They fly through MSA inspections.

[AndrewS]

Ill have a full cage for the s14. Chuck my name down :-)

[bren]

Just give us a ring to pay by card or let me know Paypal address and Ill send you an invoice :)

[sxrs]

Will have a full cage for s14. I will give you a call in the morning to pay.

[AndrewS]

Just give us a ring to pay by card or let me know Paypal address and Ill send you an invoice :)

Awesome, as soon as i get paid this week, will pm you

[acs]

I dont believe there is such a thing. Im not aware tha MSA pre-approve any product. They are built to MSA Blue Book spec as a base and then on top of that have an extra door bar each side, double bolted cage to cage fixings, rear horizontal and rear diaganol, none of which are required by MSA regs.

They fly through MSA inspections.

Do you have an idea on weight of them?

Thanks
Adi

[bren]

Hi
Packed weight is around 54kg
Regards jason



Do you have an idea on weight of them?

Thanks
Adi

[tyrrell]

so would you do a s14 cage for 359 + del?

[bren]

Hi
As et says in first post if we get 10+ people then that will be the price. Bren back in the office tommorrow so you can contact him for more details.
Regards Jason






so would you do a s14 cage for 359 + del?

[haynesey]

I'll have a full cage for an s14.....Just gota check cleared funds in zee account of bank then I'll PM you!

[bren]

Ok thanks





I'll have a full cage for an s14.....Just gota check cleared funds in zee account of bank then I'll PM you!

[bren]

The cages are available at the group buy prices immediately :)

[haynesey]

I am defo having one, just got to wait for a payment to clear in my bank account! If you send me the invoice I should be able to pay within the next couple of days!
I want the S14a Full cage delivered to the uk.

Cheers

[bren]

How do you want to pay?

[haynesey]

Sorry meant to say....Paypal fella! Email address is Haynesey88@hotmail.com
Just paid for the short shift kit aswell (dont do any combined postage rates do ya :p ?)

Money is cleared now so send me invoice and I will pay straight away!!

[bren]

Paypal invoice sent. Ive suspended your shifter order and reduced the carriage on the roll cage order accordingly. Once you pay the roll cage order we will release the shifter order and theyll be dispatched together :)

[haynesey]

Many thanks mate, your a true gent!! Paying now :)

[bren]

No problem :). The order has been processed and it should leave tomorrow.

[Nathsx]

invoice for half cage for s14a please,also is it suitable to use the horizontal bar for mounting harnesses rather than eyelets in the seatbelt mounts?

[bren]

Whats your Paypal address?

Yes you can attach the harnesses to the horizontal :) We have KSport 3" 4/6 point aircraft buckle FIA approved harnesses in stock. Normally £169, I can do them for £129 with a cage.

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=74756&stc=1&d=1320873955

[Nathsx]

have harnesses :P,and yea i just remembered youd need it lols..

[bren]

No worries, invoice sent :)

[Burch1988]

Hey how much for a 14a rear cage cheers

[bren]

£179 :)

[Burch1988]

£179 :)

Excellent il take one can you keep it for me until payday loL

[bren]

We have good stock of the rear cages at the moment but we cant hold anything without payment anymore Im afraid. We had too many people asking us to hold goods and then we would never hear from them again :(

[Burch1988]

We have good stock of the rear cages at the moment but we cant hold anything without payment anymore Im afraid. We had too many people asking us to hold goods and then we would never hear from them again :(

That's.not a problem cheers

[Shirunai]

Well its a longshot but my sisterson building a driftcar he asked me about cages, is this groupbuy still going?
He has a 200sx s13 is there still full s13cages left? He dont care if its 1door bar or doubblebars

Best regards André

[bren]

Yes the group buy is still ongoing. We had sold out of s13 full cages but have just sorted some more so yes, we have a small number in stock.

[Angrypanda]

Can i get a fixing kit seperatly as I got a apex cage second hand for a 14 and didnt get and fixing bits

[bren]

Full or half cage? Do you have the plates that go under the floor?

[longisland]

I want a full cage for my s14a.
Delivered to Germany.

U can send me an email or pm.
Email is: stabilo88@web.de

Best regards Georg

[Ann]

Invoice on it's way :)

[hooky]

Hi, do you have any s14 rear cages left? if so i'll take one!

Can you PM me with payment details etc?

[bren]

Yep, still got some.

If you want to pay by Paypal then send me your Paypal address and Ill send an invoice. If you want to pay by card then give us a ring Mon-Fri 9-6pm 01274 683633 :)

[tyrrell]

can you just confirm the latest price for a full bolt in cage s14a ? inc del

[bren]

£359 plus £30 carriage. £389 delivered.

[Ann]

Hi, do you have any s14 rear cages left? if so i'll take one!

Can you PM me with payment details etc?

PM on it's way :)

[SstennizZ]

Hi! Do you have any s13 rear cages left? And if so, how much will it be incl shipment to Holland?

[bren]

Hi! Do you have any s13 rear cages left? And if so, how much will it be incl shipment to Holland?

Hi,

Yes we do have the half cages in stock, the price of the cage with shipping will be £203.99.

Regards, Jason

[SstennizZ]

Hi,

Yes we do have the half cages in stock, the price of the cage with shipping will be £203.99.

Regards, Jason

sstennizz@casema.nl is my paypal.. ;)

[bren]

Sent yesterday, thanks


Kev @ Apex

[Stevoc]

Lads have you got or can you get me a 6 point through dash bolt in cage with door bars?
Has to be through dash.. for a 180sx

[royellison]

any full s13 cages with door bars? dash dodger prefebly(sp) cheers

[jimbobD]

have you got an s14 rear cages left?

will pm you anyway

[Stevoc]

Lads have you got or can you get me a 6 point through dash bolt in cage with door bars?
Has to be through dash.. for a 180sx


:wave:

[Ann]

Lads have you got or can you get me a 6 point through dash bolt in cage with door bars?
Has to be through dash.. for a 180sx

I do beleive that this is the same as the S13 one but these have now all sold.


any full s13 cages with door bars? dash dodger prefebly(sp) cheers

Sorry, all gone now.


have you got an s14 rear cages left?

will pm you anyway

Yes, we still have these available. :)

[minimalrene]

Do you still have an s13 rear cage?
Friend of mine from holland can pick it up in a few weeks.

[bren]

We have them with a 6 point main hoop.

[mr.max.93]

Do you have any s13 cages also do they meet 2012 msa reg's cheers


http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m489/mrmaxpearce/IMAG0572.jpg

[Munkul]

I know you say you can run full interior etc, but to confirm - you can still use standard seat belts with a full s14 cage?

Cheers

[bren]

Do you have any s13 cages also do they meet 2012 msa reg's cheers


http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m489/mrmaxpearce/IMAG0572.jpg

They exceed MSA specifications by some margin but theyve all sold now. If theres interest then Ill look at getting another batch manufacturered.


I know you say you can run full interior etc, but to confirm - you can still use standard seat belts with a full s14 cage?

Cheers

Yes :)

[maxwe789]

Any s14 full cages left?

[bren]

Any s14 full cages left?

Hi,

Yes but we only have two left in stock so if you require one urgently you can call the office on 01274 683633 and order over the phone.

Regards, Jason

[Burch1988]

Hi do you have any s14a rear cages left and what the price delivered cheers shaun

[bren]

Yep, we have good stock of s13 and s14 rear cages. £196.63 delivered.

[Ricey]

so 196 quid for a s14a full cage and door bars deliverd? ill take one, ill ring up this weekend if thats right bren

edit so just realised that was half cage.

how much sor full cage?

[bren]

£359 plus £30 carriage but we are out of stock at the moment. Might have some more sorted in the next few weeks but no guarentees.

[Kieran_e1]

Does the 14 cage also fit a 15?

[bren]

I dont know, I think we sold an S14 cage to an S15 owner some time ago so he could try it but I dont recall the end result. Ive an incling that it fitted but Im not 100% on that.

Did you get my message about the Jag on FB?

[Kieran_e1]

I dont know, I think we sold an S14 cage to an S15 owner some time ago so he could try it but I dont recall the end result. Ive an incling that it fitted but Im not 100% on that.

Did you get my message about the Jag on FB?
Yep. was gonna get back to you once I'm ready to move with something

does that mean you'll give me a cage had price to test fit if i get the 15 im after ? lol

[bren]

Odd, Id replied to this but its gone.

We dont have any S14 full cages left. We are looking to see if we can put some together, we have a container full of parts.

Even if we can put some together demand will outstrip supply.

I can do a deal on a test cage but not until the next shipment comes through in another 4 months or so.

[Kieran_e1]

Odd, Id replied to this but its gone.

We dont have any S14 full cages left. We are looking to see if we can put some together, we have a container full of parts.

Even if we can put some together demand will outstrip supply.

I can do a deal on a test cage but not until the next shipment comes through in another 4 months or so.
Tbh that timeframe will probably be ideal but we can chat about it nearer the time. I'll let you know about the jag asap

[Mogan]

4 months time sounds good to me also :)

[wardy01]

interested in a full 14a cage if you get anymore

[tyrrell]

Bren can you let me know if you manage to sort a 14a cage

[Jason@apex]

Hi,

Bren is on holiday this week. We have no full cages left but are looking into getting more sorted.
I believe Bren will update the post when we get more in.

regards, Jason

[tyrrell]

Ok. I spoke with him about getting one before however got the funds now so. ASAP really

[Jason@apex]

Ok. I spoke with him about getting one before however got the funds now so. ASAP really

Hi,

You can speak to Bren next week when he's back in the office as he is the one dealing with the cages so maybe able to give you more details.

Regards, Jason

[tyrrell]

Could I pre Order a s14a cage ?
And when you get one in ship it out ?

[bren]

We wont have any more S14 full cages for at least 3 months, possibly longer.

[Daz]

Hey Bren.

So you still have S14a rear cages in stock? Can the front cage be purchased at a later date if needed or is the rear cage different to the rear part of a full cage?

[bren]

We have rear cages, I dont know when, or if, we will have the front sections to add to them in the future :(

[Daz]

We have rear cages, I dont know when, or if, we will have the front sections to add to them in the future :(

Ah right, I'll prob still go for a rear cage then. Even if it means getting a custom front section made up later if I need it.

Once my car is repaired and back on the road I'll come back to you Bren :thumbs:.

[longisland]

Is it possible to get the rear cage from you and put custom front legs to it?
Is there any fitting on it for the front legs or the bare rear cage?

How much is the rear cage to Germany?

Best regards Georg

[bren]

Ah right, I'll prob still go for a rear cage then. Even if it means getting a custom front section made up later if I need it.

Once my car is repaired and back on the road I'll come back to you Bren :thumbs:.

We will have some components for the front, just not all of them.


Is it possible to get the rear cage from you and put custom front legs to it?
Is there any fitting on it for the front legs or the bare rear cage?

How much is the rear cage to Germany?

Best regards Georg

Yes and, as above, we will have some of the front section componnents, just not all of them. Ill see what we have got.

[Daz]

Cheers Bren.

I had a look at someone elses rear apex cage the other day and I have a question for you. The mounting point that takes the front cage would just be poking out. Would this be a safety worry on just running the rear cage as I'm pretty tall and think if I did roll it (lets hope I never do) that it's possible my head could hit that bracket which would cause more harm than good. Do you have any padding that can go on that bracket?

Obviously this wouldn't be an issue with the full cage as you'd running padding on the cage anyway.

[bren]

Any piece of metal thats in the way of your head is indeed a potential heath hazzard. We dont stock padding Im afraid :(

[Daz]

Any piece of metal thats in the way of your head is indeed a potential heath hazzard. We dont stock padding Im afraid :(

Indeed. I'll have a think of the best was of covering that bracket. On track wouldn't too much of an issue as a crash helmet will be on anyway. It's more for road driving.

I bet that's the first time anyones asked that isn't it?

[bren]

You still dont want to smash your crash helmet into a nasty piece of metal but its not as bad as a bare head!

No ones specifically asked about protection on a a rear cage using compoentns from a full cage but then protecting your head from steel tubes is something that needs doing be it just a rear cage or a cage using a 6 point hoop :)

[Daz]

You still dont want to smash your crash helmet into a nasty piece of metal but its not as bad as a bare head!

No ones specifically asked about protection on a a rear cage using compoentns from a full cage but then protecting your head from steel tubes is something that needs doing be it just a rear cage or a cage using a 6 point hoop :)

So the other option I have I suppose is to just buy a rear cage without those brackets? then if I ever want the full cage I'd need to sell the rear on. Then I can just put padding on the rear hoop of the rear cage.

That would work better wouldn't it.

I thought the rear cages always had that bracket for the front section you see.

[bren]

No, we do two types of cages, full and then rear. Full cage main hoops have the fixings for the front section, rear cages dont. We were at a point a while ago where we only had rear cages using the full cage main hoop but have now sorted proper rear cages for both the S13 and s14 again :)

I think I also have the rear cage from our V8 S14 which has no diaganol or horizontal and Ive removed the fixing brackets for the two bars so you can use the rear seats if necessary. £100.

This is the normal S14 rear cage fitted (the rear diaganol is now a better design):

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This is the rear cage installed in my V8 S14:

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[bren]

Ok, I can supply part S14 cages.

The first will be missing:

Right hand leg
Left hand upper door bar

The second will be missing:

Windscreen bar
Right hand leg
Left hand upper door bar

£279 per cage.

[Daz]

Thanks for that Bren.

I think I'll end up going for just the rear cage then. The offer of the V8 S14 cage is a cracking one but I'll be wanting the rear diagonal and the rear horizontal so that I can mount harnesses and also a camera off of the cage.

[BLAKTOOTH]

May seem a strange question Bren but how much does the rear cage stiffen the car? Is it noticable? Are you more likely to notice the additional rigidity with a full cage or is it simply the full cage offers better protection in an accident and that they both help stiffen the car nicely? I've been considering a cage for a while now and keep changing my mind. I use the car on the road and on track and want it for all of the reasons mentioned but I can't help thinking that a rear cage would be easier to live with and the full cage might be a little OTT for a non competitive track toy. Plus I'm reluctant to chop my dash up, don't want to loose the sun visors, don't want the additional weight and the mrs would probably never get in it again. She's not a unit by the way she just doesn't like crawling in and out of the bucket seat let alone squeezing through a cage.

[Mark D]

She's not a unit by the way

You crack me up dude! :nod:

[tompei]

any eta on when we will have more of these?

[bren]

They do stiffen the shell, the full cage more so than the rear. Ive never done back to back testing with regards to how the car feels before and after a cage so couldnt quantify by how much.

We dotn have a date on getting any more, no :no: