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Right, as you know we have the NEW! SXOC van coming to Le Mans with us - the very lovely JC has volunteered to drive it. :thumbs:
Question is, should we pay for some of it - a tank of fuel is already sorted but theres the Tunnel, tolls, as well as more fuel ....... to consider.
Options above, let me know what you think is fair. :)
Easy way Doc is just to take what it costs and minus that from the figure it'd cost for JC to go over in his own motor, assuming that's what he would have done. Or what he'd have paid to p/ride with someone else on a shared basis.
Happy to contribute though.
Good to see everyone is so concerned :wack:
Dan@DB-Power
24-05-2011, 12:44
I don't mind, the Van is for our benefit :)
I mean between 20 people what is it? about £15 :wack:
richardg
24-05-2011, 13:10
Costs should be split and paid for by the folks going on the trip and are getting use of the van, surely the only fair way ? Why should the club finance it when the majority of members aren't going on the trip ?
Costs should be split and paid for by the folks going on the trip and are getting use of the van, surely the only fair way ? Why should the club finance it when the majority of members aren't going on the trip ?
Because the 'majority' of members don’t attend any one given event; the club is just too big. Even events like the weekender doesn't see the 'majority' of members attend yet the club finances it from our membership fee's.
Every member was given the option to attend this event ;)
BTW, just playing devil's advocate here, happy to chip in whatever is decided.
I would say that as its going to an event,fuel shouldn't be an issue,but because its in Europe i think the tunnel should be covered by those going! Just my opinion,not too bothered either way tbh :thumbs:
Costs should be split and paid for by the folks going on the trip and are getting use of the van, surely the only fair way ? Why should the club finance it when the majority of members aren't going on the trip ?
All the guys going are SXOC members, and as Joe says we never have the whole club at one single event, even the Weekender or JAE. Its there for club use and thats whats being done with it - its off to Nurburgring today actually :)
im not going ( so discard this meesage if ya want lol)
but just work out the cost of running a car there.. and anything extra the van will cost divide between the people going.
plus buy the driver a drink for driving something so boring, slow and uninspiring down to le mans :D
yeah... i insinuated a s body is inspiring....
Good to see everyone is so concerned :wack:
Not everyones got their hand on a mouse and their nose against a monitor all day :p
I'm with Arry, but I'm also with Dan, I'm also easy so I guess I'm not really helping am I...:confused:
its off to Nurburgring today actually :)
I guess 15:32 minutes to get round
happy to pay a bit if needs be :)
failing that, make JC pay the lot :D
hang on, maybe some clarification... do you mean "we" the sxoc subsidising as a club for a members event? or "we" the people going?
"We" the people going, how much of JC's costs are we going to cover. Ive got an opinion but Im keeping it to myself. :)
depends how much the final figure is for me, I'd say if it's £200ish then it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect to jc to pay a fair chunk towards it.
I'd say it'd be nice if the club covered ferries and JC covered the first £50-£75 or so of the fuel, then we can all put an extra £5 to cover the excess fuel and tolls.
I don't think it's fair to charge him the full amount obviously, but then it'd cost him more than £50 if he was going in his own car / as a passenger anyways, so it's only reasonable to expect him to pay a small bit towards getting himself there. :)
If it were me driving I'd be happy with the above :) what's happening regards to the pitch for it? have we already paid that? or has jc paid for one that's covering the van?
JC has paid for his own pitch and entrance, and will be supplying the first tank of fuel. :thumbs:
cool beans, I'd say he's paid more than enough (seeing as the van probably takes £100+ in motion lotion) :)
I'd say if the sxoc hasn't made a formal subsidy for the le mans'sers then it'd be nice to gesture a bit to cover the support vehicle. :) same as we would with any other sxoc event for food, van, entrance costs etc.
as it's only sxoc members going i don't think it's particularly unreasonable. but if the costs worked out at £10 a head then i wouldn't expect it all to be covered, i'd say £5 a head or similar wouldn't be taking the piss as I think that's a fairly standard discount for events anyway :)
obviously anything over the club contribution would get split amongst those of us attending without any issues i'm sure :)
clai 'two steaks' cerrig
24-05-2011, 18:53
Happy to contribute here
I would say JC pays up to what it would normally cost someone to come down in their own car and those of us going split any extra cost between us:)
IMO the club should put in a fiver a head for each member going (just like any other major event),
Last year I put in a full tank of fuel and then Grazor, Parker and I split the rest of the fuel costs three ways.
That included a return trip to Bristol to collect the club fridges etc.
The three of us felt it was only fair (we'd have been going in something together anyway). We paid for our pitch and entrance too :thumbs:
We split the cost of rental between everyone going (except the Essex lads who brought their own van :nod: )
I would suggest that if there's any massive difference between those costs and what it comes out at we (the rest of us going) should split it between us :nod::thumbs:
:sxoc:
I would say JC pays up to what it would normally cost someone to come down in their own car and those of us going split any extra cost between us:)
This sounds reasonable to me:thumbs:
My car still isn't on the road yet, so could split costs with JC if I could come down in the van too?
JulesS14200
02-06-2011, 15:43
Yeah JC can pay a share and the club can pay the rest or at least put a fiver per head in. Have we got a decent stereo system this year???
My car still isn't on the road yet, so could split costs with JC if I could come down in the van too?
You probably need to speak to JC about that Dow ;)
JulesS14200
03-06-2011, 13:38
Sound System!????
We've got the club one I would think
JulesS14200
03-06-2011, 13:55
Well stop thinking and make it happen!
Did the only way is essex boys bring the cracking sound system last time?
IMO the club should put in a fiver a head for each member going (just like any other major event),
Last year I put in a full tank of fuel and then Grazor, Parker and I split the rest of the fuel costs three ways.
That included a return trip to Bristol to collect the club fridges etc.
The three of us felt it was only fair (we'd have been going in something together anyway). We paid for our pitch and entrance too :thumbs:
We split the cost of rental between everyone going (except the Essex lads who brought their own van :nod: )
I would suggest that if there's any massive difference between those costs and what it comes out at we (the rest of us going) should split it between us :nod::thumbs:
:sxoc:
This:nod:
I would say JC pays up to what it would normally cost someone to come down in their own car and those of us going split any extra cost between us:)
I am happy to pay a share of the costs,if I were to go in my own car or as a passenger,like in past years,it was always with a couple of passengers so costs were split 3 ways,I can't afford to pay for the lot on my own,nor do I feel that would be fair,as Doc says I am obviousliy paying for my camping & entrance & I will brim the van before I leave which will cost around £100,I'm also driving to Bristol & back on my own time to collect the van & will probably have to deliver it back somewhere after Le Man's. :thumbs:
Yeah JC can pay a share and the club can pay the rest or at least put a fiver per head in.
:nod: :thumbs:
My car still isn't on the road yet, so could split costs with JC if I could come down in the van too?
If you can get to my place in West London for Tuesday night then your welcome to join me buddy :thumbs:
JulesS14200
03-06-2011, 17:09
Did the only way is essex boys bring the cracking sound system last time?
Yeah that was the essex massive system, the speakers were a bit pants though. We need something similar or better :D
Feck...im down 150 quid with me not going :(
And ill even chip in if needed :thumbs:
Yeah that was the essex massive system, the speakers were a bit pants though. We need something similar or better :D
If the sxoc one is the one we had for the ring trip then we are sorted :thumbs:
voodoo_melon
03-06-2011, 19:45
Because the 'majority' of members don’t attend any one given event; the club is just too big. Even events like the weekender doesn't see the 'majority' of members attend yet the club finances it from our membership fee's.
Every member was given the option to attend this event ;)
BTW, just playing devil's advocate here, happy to chip in whatever is decided.
This.
Maybe not pay the full amount, but subsidise it at least and top the rest up between the people attending.
JulesS14200
03-06-2011, 20:43
If the sxoc one is the one we had for the ring trip then we are sorted :thumbs:
Good, this had better be the case!
Yep :nod:
Mega awesome super great jumbo Transit FTW! :D
Is there a TV and Grahams Sky TV dish going?
G is bringing his dish but no TV at this stage mate :no:
I dont see why JC should pay a penny. The guys volenteered to drive a bloody van all the way to Le Mans and back full of stuff that the rest of you will use whilst you lot cruise there and back in the ride of your choice? You should be paying him!
I dont see why JC should pay a penny. The guys volenteered to drive a bloody van all the way to Le Mans and back full of stuff that the rest of you will use whilst you lot cruise there and back in the ride of your choice? You should be paying him!
So Grazor, Parker and I should be reimbursed for last year then too?
We are talking about heavily subsidising JC's trip but I'll personally be deeply ticked off if I'm asked to pay for a freebie when I was well out of pocket from last year doing exactly the same thing in a hire van :nod:
So Grazor, Parker and I should be reimbursed for last year then too?
We are talking about heavily subsidising JC's trip but I'll personally be deeply ticked off if I'm asked to pay for a freebie when I was well out of pocket from last year doing exactly the same thing in a hire van :nod:
Its not my fault if you paid full price last year to be the trip bytch now is it?
Its not my fault if you paid full price last year to be the trip bytch now is it?
No mine, I was happy with the way it worked last year and felt it was very reasonable.
Which is why I'm so surprised we're looking at doing it so differently this year :nod:
If I was offered a ride in a decent car in which I could chill, enjoy the ride and kick back or drive a nasty ass van full of everyone elses junk a couple of thousand miles and yet still have to pay the same money then itd be a cse of wake me up when we get there! :wack:
Its the clubs van full of the clubs stuff, why doesnt the club pay for it to get there and back?
or drive a nasty ass van full of everyone elses junk a couple of thousand miles
that'd be a hell of an extravagant drive. (it's about 300 miles each way from JC's) :D
I get what you're saying though, it's the club's van, but not all the clubs stuff, I'd be happy either way but as mentioned if the club made a decent donation £5 per head as it's a club event open to all members then that'd certainly help :)
as mentioned the spirit of le mans is that we all do our bit, or should do. every year we've got people manning the bbq, cleaning up the campsite, doing food & petrol runs, gaffer taping the gazeboo's (sp?) together so the water doesn't run between them when it downpours and algie and the lads in the van last year had a bit of a donation from everyone to help towards the costs involved, not cover them completely.
Ultimately if jc's happy paying what an average cost of the le mans trip would be (with the rest covered by the club / others going) then what's the problem? :)
If I was offered a ride in a decent car in which I could chill, enjoy the ride and kick back or drive a nasty ass van full of everyone elses junk a couple of thousand miles and yet still have to pay the same money then itd be a cse of wake me up when we get there! :wack:
Its the clubs van full of the clubs stuff, why doesnt the club pay for it to get there and back?
As Stidi says mate, we're out to help each other. Not screw as much out of the club as we possibly can.
JC didn't have a car when he offered to take the club van which was brilliant for us a convenient for him.
Like I said earlier I don't think it's fair that JC gets a free ride just for taking the club van (especially when the prevent was set by Grazor, Parker and I last year).
Don't get me wrong, JC is a good mate and certainly deserves his trip subsidising for what he is doing but all expenses paid by the club is too much :bod:
Cornwall
04-06-2011, 11:43
If I was offered a ride in a decent car in which I could chill, enjoy the ride and kick back or drive a nasty ass van full of everyone elses junk a couple of thousand miles and yet still have to pay the same money then itd be a cse of wake me up when we get there! :wack:
Its the clubs van full of the clubs stuff, why doesnt the club pay for it to get there and back?
We (me & Matt) just took the van to Germany and back; we covered the costs between ourselves, we wanted to go but our nissans were off the road, it was either take the van or take the daily (no different in our pockets). The van is surprisingly comfortable actually better than my daily, I wouldn't see it as a nasty old van full of everyones junk:no:
The club has members, the members pay the club, the club has money in the acount, the club is supporting the trip so how is the club paying for the club support vehicle to go on a trip and support the club screwing the club?
Why does bullsh1t always make its way into discussions on here? Screwing the club :rolleyes:
Cornwall,
You must have a pretty crap daily if a vans a better place to be.
Cornwall
04-06-2011, 12:31
Shitreon zx non turbo :wack:
This is getting a bit out of hand :rolleyes:
Like I said earlier,in the past I have alway either driven down with 2 passengers or been a passenger in a car with 2 others,so either way I have always paid a 3rd share of the costs.
I voluntered to drive the van this year as at the time I didn't have a car & it was less hassle to volunteer to drive than to start asking around to find a car share,simple as that,at no point was I expecting a free ride,I am fully aware that I will have to contribute towards some of the costs & I am happy to do so.
The way I see it is that had I car shared,be it my car or someone else's the cost would have been split 3 ways,therefore I think it would be fair to base my expenses on this.
I will be filling the fuel tank before we leave,I have paid for my share of the camping & I have paid for my entrance ticket,the only outstanding expense is the other half of my camping,the chunnel (both ways),tolls & more fuel.
It looks highly likely that Dow will be joining me in the van so I propose this;
The Chunnel cost is split 3 ways between me,Dow & the SXOC
The other half of the camping is covered by Dow for his pitch
Tolls & extra fuel to be split between Dow & SXOC (Dow pays one 3rd & SXOC pay the rest)
My share of the tolls & extra fuel being covered by the SXOC for me driving the van there & back :thumbs:
Sound fair?
ps I'm also driving to Bristol on my own time to collect the van & will no doubt be delivering it back somewhere when we get home.
This is getting a bit out of hand :rolleyes:
Yeah man, out of control, I mean, fook, there will be anarchy in the streets and a mob forming next. Calm down everyone, calm down, its getting out of control! Get a grip quick!
:rolleyes:
OK, here's my 2p.
£5 per head from the club for each attending member.
The rest? I dunno? :wack:
When I drove down with Darryl in mis mates van last year we split it between us. Then all 6 of us chipped in to fill it up and give the mate a drink too. Not sure how this helps this situation, but I think JC should have to pay for half the fuel costs at least and the rest made up via the guys there.
Alg mate, forget last year, thats gone. YOu needed to sort it before you went with the guys affected. :thumbs:
This is getting a bit out of hand :rolleyes:
Like I said earlier,in the past I have alway either driven down with 2 passengers or been a passenger in a car with 2 others,so either way I have always paid a 3rd share of the costs.
I voluntered to drive the van this year as at the time I didn't have a car & it was less hassle to volunteer to drive than to start asking around to find a car share,simple as that,at no point was I expecting a free ride,I am fully aware that I will have to contribute towards some of the costs & I am happy to do so.
The way I see it is that had I car shared,be it my car or someone else's the cost would have been split 3 ways,therefore I think it would be fair to base my expenses on this.
I will be filling the fuel tank before we leave,I have paid for my share of the camping & I have paid for my entrance ticket,the only outstanding expense is the other half of my camping,the chunnel (both ways),tolls & more fuel.
It looks highly likely that Dow will be joining me in the van so I propose this;
The Chunnel cost is split 3 ways between me,Dow & the SXOC
The other half of the camping is covered by Dow for his pitch
Tolls & extra fuel to be split between Dow & SXOC (Dow pays one 3rd & SXOC pay the rest)
My share of the tolls & extra fuel being covered by the SXOC for me driving the van there & back :thumbs:
Sound fair?
ps I'm also driving to Bristol on my own time to collect the van & will no doubt be delivering it back somewhere when we get home.
WHy three ways? If its a two seater car, or two of you in it, it would be two ways? :wack: Im two ways with Scouse this year (Im turning the boost down to save fuel but dont tell him! ;) )
I dont see why all attendees shouldnt chip in. Its going to benefit us all.
I agree you should get a drink out of it, and if the attendees chipped in the shortfall of you, DOW and SXOC that would be fair. Your share covered by the rest of us. (be about £1 each if all chip in?)
Has anyone worked out the TOTAL likely cost in £s?
WOuld make it easier. Disregard the camping and entrance tickets, as you'd have bought them anyway.
I said 3 ways as that's what I've always done in the past & would have done this year had I not volunteered to drive the van :thumbs:
Three ways with who? :wack:
Yep, I'd assumed I'd just split the costs of getting the van there with JC and was happy to do that. Anyway this works out is fine for me. I just want to get drunk really.
Three ways with who? :wack:
Lol ooeer missus! :wack:
Van crossings cost extra. I take it it has a crossing booked on the size and not the Reg? :wack:
Know what?
Sell my ticket on mates, and use that money to cover any extra costs :)
As said let me know if i need to chip in more pennies.
End of the day it is for everybody`s well being that the van will be driven.
Also end of discussion :) Let JC and the SXOC staff decide what to do, no need for
this to stumble into some nasty discussion.
Mate,we will sell your ticket on & refund you,no need for you to be paying anything,its not your fault you can't make it anymore :thumbs:
I agree that this is really for me & the club to sort out though ;) :thumbs:
What are the total costs then?
Don't know yet mate,won't know until we get back I guess 'cause we don't know how much fuel we will use.
OK, apart from fuel :wack:
Crossing
Tolls
Fuel
How much was the crossing? Estimate £30 for tolls? Fuel will be about £150-£200 rtn from yours. (Less than 2 tanks)
Mate,we will sell your ticket on & refund you,no need for you to be paying anything,its not your fault you can't make it anymore :thumbs:
I agree that this is really for me & the club to sort out though ;) :thumbs:
cheers :)
Just trying to help and keep it calm :D
Just had a quick chat with JC and we're sorted:)
Just had a quick chat with JC and we're sorted:)
:nod: :thumbs:
Damn, wish I'd thought of this sooner... We fill the van up with cheap wine and fags on the way back. The profit from the sale of this could then fund the whole trip for everyone! I'm a god damn genius or what?!
damn, wish i'd thought of this sooner... We fill the van up with cheap wine and fags on the way back. The profit from the sale of this could then fund the whole trip for everyone! I'm a god damn genius or what?!
:D :sxoc:
Just had a quick chat with JC and we're sorted:)
What does that mean? LOL
So we all get there and Doc says 'OK cough up lads £30 each' or something? :wack: :D
It means we've sorted it and you don't need to pay anything:)
JC's not going? awesome :D
Yay! Oh... wait a second...
It means we've sorted it and you don't need to pay anything:)
FCUKIN' GET IN! That's proper! :thumbs:
Yeah, its worked out well. through trickery and tomfoolery the club wont be out of pocket, and neither will JC :thumbs:
We wouldnt just take club funds for this as its not fair on the members that arent coming, and JC would have had to pay something whatever way he got down there.
Id particularly like to thank Bren for his input though, weve only been doing this for seven years now, next time Ill get you to sort everything out mate. :thumbs:
Good work lads :)
Hope you guys have fun without me...it will be hard without but at least try it :wack:
Good work lads :)
Hope you guys have fun without me...it will be hard without but at least try it :wack:
Real shame you can't make it mate:(
real shame you can't make it mate:(
+1
I know...but need the monies for the baby :nod:
I know...but need the monies for the baby :nod:
You're buying a baby? WOW! :wack:
:D
Ill buy anything you invented Matt...should know that by now :D:nod:
JulesS14200
06-06-2011, 11:23
wow, entertaining read, glad its sorted :rolleyes:
Ill buy anything you invented Matt...should know that by now :D:nod:
Depends how good looking your missus is. If she's hot, I wouldnt charge you to 'invent' a baby for you :D:smash:
Ill keep my wallet closed then Matt :nod::thumbs:
Lucky bastard.... :thumbs:
JulesS14200
07-06-2011, 06:08
Have we got a fridgefreeezer and bbq yeah?
Yes Jules. Its been confirmed :thumbs:
Lol @ Jules trying to get organised two days before we go :D
I'm setting off for the station in a couple of hours... going to go and get packing when I've finished my dinner and had a brew...
I think that because he's doing the club a favour and driving the support van, he shouldn't pay 'it all' himself, pay half his costs then the club pays the rest perhaps?
I rarely attend events at the moment, but still happily pay my membership, and happy to go towards whatever the board seems fit :-) (Wait.. does that mean I trust Docwra.. opps! ;-) )
I think that because he's doing the club a favour and driving the support van, he shouldn't pay 'it all' himself, pay half his costs then the club pays the rest perhaps?
I rarely attend events at the moment, but still happily pay my membership, and happy to go towards whatever the board seems fit :-) (Wait.. does that mean I trust Docwra.. opps! ;-) )
Keep up pal! :D
Youre nearly into the arranging of the van for 2012's LeMans :wack: :D
Van has been treated to a full tank of fuel,a good wash & some subtle stickerage :thumbs:
I also spent an hour or so re packing everything to get all the heavy stuff as far forward as possible so now it doesn't look like its sitting on the rear bump stops! :wack:
Id particularly like to thank Bren for his input though, weve only been doing this for seven years now, next time Ill get you to sort everything out mate. :thumbs:
The clubs been charging traders for longer than 7 years and it it cant get that right either ;)
The clubs been charging traders for longer than 7 years and it it cant get that right either ;)
It can when I do it ;) :D
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