Alfa Scuderia "non originale" [Archive]

Alfaholical

13-05-2011, 19:57

Hi folks.

Well I've pulled my finger out and got myself membership of SXOC so I won't be loading up ekjim's Anglia project with my posts.

An idea spawned a bit over a year ago to modify my classic 1967 Alfa GT stepnose into the car I alway have wanted it to be. Pretty classic lines but something interesting to make it go faster. There have been many transplant projects including twin sparks, V6 etc. To get any real power you have to spend big bucks and the gearbox is the weakest link. Anyhow I stumbled across a transplant that a Greek fellow living in Austrailia had done (SR20DET into a 1973 bertone). Everything looked so right under the bonnet and there was a tentative link between Nissan and Alfa (Alfa Arna was basically a joint Alfa / Nissan project) so that maintains the heritage link :confused:

Any how thats the background and my plan was to do the full conversion for under £2k. Well that went out of the window but more on that later. At last years Montee Historique in Laon France I was chatting to one of the guys from PPC mag and after a few beers made the ambitious claim that I would return in 2011 in my turbo Alfa. hmmm

So onto the pics.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnHBp-nM3I/AAAAAAAAGas/1UhL4neV1tA/s640/DSCF4631.JPG

Already done quite a few modifications including uprated suspension, LSD rear axle and new wheels. Off to Peterborough to buy the donor a late S14 with a big battle scar from losing it in the snow. I had done a bit of research on SXOC and had my mechanic mate Tom with me and the car whilst cosmetically a bit sad ran well with no knocks or rattles.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnHLK6l5tI/AAAAAAAAGbg/aBw0hgKyiyc/s640/DSCF5627.JPG

Next Tom and I pull the engine out of each car.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnHiCYpKmI/AAAAAAAAGdY/KlreLwQkUE4/s640/DSCF5744.JPG and out of the Alfa

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnOhmLm4uI/AAAAAAAAG2c/3CgFCLqkQCE/s640/DSCF6589.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnOiuhflLI/AAAAAAAAG2g/RYAq9Romk3c/s640/DSCF6590.JPG

Engines look very similar in dimensions

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnO5KLJzpI/AAAAAAAAG3M/AS6MW3hh_VE/s640/DSCF6596.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnO9eMNpQI/AAAAAAAAG3g/p5kI_seGWo0/s640/DSCF6601.JPG

I was aware that the transmission tunnel would be way too narrow for the Alfa box and so I would need to have it remade.

More to follow...

- Jim

13-05-2011, 19:59

WANT!

My most fave' Alfa of all time! :smitten:

Evilchap

13-05-2011, 20:01

Awesome :D I love it!

Chriscooke

13-05-2011, 20:07

WANT!

This :)

Awesome :D I love it!

and this :D

Edit: Baffled sump and stainless exhaust manifold are both nice little extras also :nod:

13-05-2011, 20:10

What you really want to do though is to swap in the V8 from an 8C - like my GT has in Forza 3 :D

Pablo13

13-05-2011, 20:17

Dribble :smitten:

Subscribing :thumbs:

Ralz

13-05-2011, 20:22

Absolute beauty, and I bet it will be a bit of a weapon when the conversion is finished.

What sort of power does the stock engine make?

skinz180189

13-05-2011, 20:25

Cracking project. Bet the alfa purists are crying in shame though.

Kieran_e1

13-05-2011, 20:27

i'm going to hunt you down and hurt you.

seriously. an sr into an alfa. and not any alfa but a fecking classic alfa.

you will burn in the fiery pits of hell my man

Chriscooke

13-05-2011, 20:30

i'm going to hunt you down and hurt you.

seriously. an sr into an alfa. and not any alfa but a fecking classic alfa.

you will burn in the fiery pits of hell my man

Ha ha over reaction much :D

Kieran_e1

13-05-2011, 20:34

Ha ha over reaction much :D

nope , perfectly justified

Rubix_Cube

13-05-2011, 20:44

Car looks stunning. I'm with Kieran on the blasphemy of pulling an Alpha heart out of it.

Easy007

13-05-2011, 20:47

Dribble :smitten:

Subscribing :thumbs:

Ditto

i'm going to hunt you down and hurt you.

seriously. an sr into an alfa. and not any alfa but a fecking classic alfa.

you will burn in the fiery pits of hell my man

Harsh much?

Django67

13-05-2011, 21:06

Epic car. :notworthy:

Ignore the haters. Can't decide between this and the Mad Minor for my "most favourite SXOC car ever" award. :cool:

Hallsy

13-05-2011, 21:14

So, so sexy :smitten:

Surely something like a tuned Fiat Twincam would be a little more fitting?

Alfaholical

13-05-2011, 22:15

Replace a tuned Alfa twink with a Fiat twink :D

So, so sexy :smitten:

Surely something like a tuned Fiat Twincam would be a little more fitting?

Sideways14a

13-05-2011, 22:18

Putting a great engine into a great car..

Nice :thumbs:

Alfaholical

13-05-2011, 22:38

One of my key objectives was to be sympathetic with the conversion and not destroy the car. Whilst it may be modified there is no reason that some day in the future the owner (whether it is me or not) could put the car back to original if they wanted to.

Dropping the engine into the bay was the first time I knew for sure that it would fit without any major chopping.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPBhS_YRI/AAAAAAAAG30/mC-U1rmCees/s640/DSCF6606.JPG

Amazingly it landed straight onto the original mounts.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnO_yi-SWI/AAAAAAAAG3s/1yoMobQ7cBo/s640/DSCF6604.JPG

Good news!! Only the transmission tunnel to modify. 1mm cutting disks meant removal of the tunnel was very neat and all in one piece which will go up into the attic.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPF9ShlJI/AAAAAAAAG4I/Fi1_H5Pc4Cg/s640/DSCF6612.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPKilULbI/AAAAAAAAG4Y/KeQF-uCqkoU/s640/DSCF6616.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPQNBNetI/AAAAAAAAG40/nmqnMKmaqpY/s640/DSCF6625.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPRB-HbLI/AAAAAAAAG44/vUreRv3WRQQ/s640/DSCF6626.JPG

I was going to have a go at making the new tunnel myself but Ed (the son of a friend of a friend) was looking for some work and was really enthusiatic over the project. Ed set to work making hoops to provide the template for a nice round tunnel.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPLqsMWZI/AAAAAAAAG4g/JW3nG9FAFEo/s640/DSCF6617.JPG

Ed took away the hoop template to get fabricating while I got on with other jobs.

Fuel tank.......

More to follow

- Jim

Daz

13-05-2011, 22:54

i'm going to hunt you down and hurt you.

seriously. an sr into an alfa. and not any alfa but a fecking classic alfa.

you will burn in the fiery pits of hell my man

I'm with you on this one. A classic alfa is a beautiful car. It will now sound horrible driving down the road. Should of fitted an alfa v6

Alfaholical

13-05-2011, 23:05

I thought I might cause a bit of division.

V6 is a big heavy motor and involves lots of chopping and going more than 250hp gets expensive again. I agree an SR20 does not sound like a raspy Alfa Twink (I will miss that a bit).

I'm with you on this one. A classic alfa is a beautiful car. It will now sound horrible driving down the road. Should of fitted an alfa v6

MR SXY

13-05-2011, 23:05

Awesome project and well done for doing something different :) this could be the world’s first reliable Alfa lol :wack:

Jim

13-05-2011, 23:08

I thought I might cause a bit of division.

V6 is a big heavy motor and involves lots of chopping and going more than 250hp gets expensive again. I agree an SR20 does not sound like a raspy Alfa Twink (I will miss that a bit).

I think the noise is the key reason I harbour doubts :D

Good luck though and it's at least an interesting project :)

I might not point my Alfa obsessed friend this way though, he might follow through on Kieran's request ;)

Kieran_e1

13-05-2011, 23:13

I thought I might cause a bit of division.

V6 is a big heavy motor and involves lots of chopping and going more than 250hp gets expensive again. I agree an SR20 does not sound like a raspy Alfa Twink (I will miss that a bit).

it's not a case of division :)

it's just that one of the biggest parts of the alfa soul is the engine and the noise. even old alfa spiders and the alfasud sound awesome. there had to be a better option than the sr imho.

the project itself is awesome and i would've hated not to see it had you gone down the non nissan route for an engine but i can't help but feel the poor little car will lose part of it's appeal with a modern 4 pot turbo sewing machine beating away

or maybe

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Maserati-3200-GT-Engine-/380336821595?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item588dd7555b

jod

13-05-2011, 23:35

As much as I'm a big fan of classic alfa'a and I love sr's, some of the guys are kinda right... Your removing the soul from your alfa.

But you shouldn't be transplanting the engine, you should be refining it!

Daz

13-05-2011, 23:56

it's not a case of division :)

it's just that one of the biggest parts of the alfa soul is the engine and the noise. even old alfa spiders and the alfasud sound awesome. there had to be a better option than the sr imho.

the project itself is awesome and i would've hated not to see it had you gone down the non nissan route for an engine but i can't help but feel the poor little car will lose part of it's appeal with a modern 4 pot turbo sewing machine beating away

or maybe

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Maserati-3200-GT-Engine-/380336821595?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item588dd7555b

it would be the same as putting a diesel in a E-type jag :nod:

Jim

13-05-2011, 23:59

Phill

14-05-2011, 00:01

I love Alfa's. Would have been nice to see a V6 going in but still a cool project!

Daz

14-05-2011, 00:04

In the series one or two then yes but anything is better than the horrible v12 e-type :p

Anyway with so many people doing and loving swaps in s-body's these days most people here are batting from a sticky wicket ;)

you get my point though.

To be fair, putting a different engine in an S-body is fine as the car is never going to be a pretty classic like that alfa.

It's cool putting a modern engine in the OP's car but I think the SR is a terrible choice purely for the noise factor.

folken

14-05-2011, 00:09

To atone for what you did, you will have to swap the alfa's engine in the s14 after that :wack:

Easy007

14-05-2011, 00:47

I'm a fan :nod: I couldn't give a monkeys ass about the twink if i'm honest. Removing it's soul :rolleyes:

A cool project in my eyes :thumbs:

Jim

14-05-2011, 00:54

Don't be so dismissive, there are a lot of people who "feel" the same. Give it a few years and you might have owned something with an engine worth cherishing and you will understand :p

chopaholic

14-05-2011, 00:58

Alfa's are shit, get that SR in there to hell.

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt234/holyshift/Potato-HATERS-GONNA-HATE-TATERS-GONNA-TATE.jpg

Easy007

14-05-2011, 01:06

I do understand that people feel that way about keeping it's engine but, for me, i'm not really bothered. I'm not trying to offend anyone though it's just my opinion.

For me it's how a complete car makes you feel that counts, whether it has a standard engine or not makes no odds. The twink could be placed in say a caterfield chassis and give that car some 'soul'

marko14a

14-05-2011, 08:49

Along the lines of the camaro that had the jap engine. Many people hated it, even though it was awesome. I like this can't wait to see it finished.

Django67

14-05-2011, 10:03

[flame suit] With the right exhaust and induction, an SR can sound pretty good, provided it doesn't have VVT rattle - but that's only an issue when first started anyway [/flame suit]

Sideways14a

14-05-2011, 11:15

[flame suit] With the right exhaust and induction, an SR can sound pretty good, provided it doesn't have VVT rattle - but that's only an issue when first started anyway [/flame suit]

Indeed.
We are back to the hate of the SR because of noise, i just dont get it...
Sr's aint the nicest noise out there but loads of so called "fruity" engines that make a supposedly nice noise all sound the same to me. Its only when you get to proper big stuff like astons and all that where you can appreciate a good rumble.

I am more interested in the way it moves the 4 wheels down the road, SR's boot the arse of most things in this regard.

Alfaholical

14-05-2011, 11:29

Some interesting coments on retaining the originality of the car. I thought long and hard before doing the conversion. The Alfa engine that I pulled out was a tuned 2ltr (original was a 1.6Ltr).

The noise it makes will be different but not unpleasant.

Swapping over to fuel injection required some modifications to the tank but on the basis that many of the old Alfa suffered floor flex and cracking the preferred route was to fit a tank between the turrents. Also reduces the risk of a firey experience should I get rear ended.

As it was
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPXUg1zTI/AAAAAAAAG5Y/HgbwZnglscY/s640/DSCF6634.JPG

Remove the tank and cut the top off

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPZVL0Y2I/AAAAAAAAG5g/PCHicJwrK68/s640/DSCF6636.JPG

A bit of paint and sealant and it becomes the boot floor

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnQCOLYxJI/AAAAAAAAG8s/HSg-g9_82v8/s640/DSCF6931.JPG

Make a hardboard mock up of the tank

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPbRd_MdI/AAAAAAAAG5s/TgITuQgx1eQ/s640/DSCF6639.JPG

Fits okay
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPewwW7CI/AAAAAAAAG6A/GU7A1niF7X4/s640/DSCF6643.JPG

then send the mock up to Bryn at Allyfab to make me a baffled tank with a swirl pot built in.

A couple of weeks later Bryn sends me through the tank. The guy is a total god when it comes to Ali welding and tank fabrication

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPj-SJ12I/AAAAAAAAG6Y/gCxrk3mjEOw/s640/DSCF6659.JPG

Really happy with the tank. Fits perfectly! The original Alfa sender unit will allow me to keep the original guages.

Steering link needed modification/fabrication to clear the bellhousing. A job I also gave Ed and his dad as it is a little mission critical.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPltyKWUI/AAAAAAAAG6g/7xPPX4Tjk-M/s640/DSCF6668.JPG

Ed also brought over the tunnel that he had fabricated off site from the mock up hoops.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPh4K88oI/AAAAAAAAG6Q/Jet2Ck7ljvc/s640/DSCF6647.JPG

Really happy with this (needs to have the gear lever hole modified to allow for rocking of the engine). More on that later....

- Jim

Ken

14-05-2011, 11:36

Love projects like this:nod:

Pablo13

14-05-2011, 12:14

Nice tunnel work :)

As an Ex Alfasud owner, and not a massive fan of the wet fart SR sound. Im surprised that I have no quarms about it. It think its great little project, and even the sound can be changed with the help of a NEO head :nod:

I'm sure I've a picture of a boosted Alfa twin cam somewhere, Any reason (I'm thinking development costs) that you didn't choose this route?

Alfaholical

14-05-2011, 14:23

I'm sure I've a picture of a boosted Alfa twin cam somewhere, Any reason (I'm thinking development costs) that you didn't choose this route?

Boosting the Alfa twink has been done lots but the gearbox is near its limits at 180hp and expensive to rebuild. The rear axle is good for nearly 300hp apparently though so an uprated prop connected to it should be fine.

- Jim

m.d.

14-05-2011, 14:42

although the sr sounds gay it is a good engine and will definitely compliment how the car goes, just keep the exhaust quiet then you wont have to hear it ;)

Kazuya Mishima

14-05-2011, 15:25

Alfa, and SR opinions aside; I love it people do projects like this. Chop Shop SXOC stylee :thumbs:

def

15-05-2011, 11:01

You win:nod:

Retro SR powered alfa FTW:notworthy

15-05-2011, 11:03

Cars which piss off purists are awesome. This is particularly awesome. Who gives a rat's ass what it's powered by, how it makes you feel is what matters :)
Fantabulous project :thumbs:

def

15-05-2011, 11:12

15-05-2011, 11:13

Thats why I was thinking about an SR powered RX7:nod:

An awesome idea. Make sure you post up on FDUK. And hire a bodyguard :D

Do it at the same time as I do my A series powered R35 :thumbs:

def

15-05-2011, 11:20

Lol I lied to se if you would bight lol:sxoc:

MEL

15-05-2011, 11:26

Cars which piss of purists are awesome. This is particularly awesome. Who gives a rat's ass what it's powered by, how it makes you feel is what matters :)
Fantabulous project :thumbs:

:smash: nail on head

Who says a car can't have a soul if it's had an engine swap, its what you make of it at the end of the day and it seems like the op has put a lot of thought into this and is not just fcuking around with an angle grinder for the sake of it

Aitch

15-05-2011, 12:44

I usually like originality in a car, especially one as classic as this. However, the SR has got to be a much better engine than the one coming out and it will transform the car entirely. If the rest of the project, as a whole, is done sympathetically, it will be the tits. A bit of under bonnet insulation and a decent exhaust (I'm thinking along the lines of the twin exit sensible) would sort the rattly sound issues of the SR out no problem. :cool:

arry

15-05-2011, 12:49

Amazing work. I'm not sold on the engine going in there either TBH - I think for the amount of work you're going to the engine choice is the wrong one. BUT, it's your car and you're doing it very well indeed, so I'm not going to knock you for it :thumbs:

Django67

15-05-2011, 12:50

Thats why I was thinking about an SR powered RX7:nod:

I'd like to do a CA powered S14a, quite surprised that I haven't seen one yet, tbh. The resulting thread would be epic. :sxoc:

Kazuya Mishima

15-05-2011, 12:51

How about a v8 in my Pug 205 GTi? :wack:

Sideways14a

15-05-2011, 12:55

I'd like to do a CA powered S14a, quite surprised that I haven't seen one yet, tbh. The resulting thread would be epic. :sxoc:

IIRC there is one, or has been one kicking about on here somewhere.

Rob_SX

15-05-2011, 12:56

I'd like to do a CA powered S14a, quite surprised that I haven't seen one yet, tbh. The resulting thread would be epic. :sxoc:

an idea almost worth doing!

on topic. Its a great project with some really high quality work going into it. keep it up :)

folken

15-05-2011, 12:56

I'm thinking of a s13 powered by a HDI ... the standard ca18 doesn't really have anything above 3.5/4k rpm anyway :wack:
If a diesel engine wasn't more expensive than my whole s13, I probably would have already done it.

And there is at least one CA powered s14a in the world, but I have no idea where it is.
And a VQ35DET powered 205 in France (for drag races ... it replaced the 2jz which was in it before).

15-05-2011, 14:05

You've a very interesting project there fella & a lovely-looking car to-boot! :thumbs: As long as it doesn't sound pants I'd say this will be an epic wee classic! :cool: For all the audiophiles out there there are exhaust systems & manifolds in particular that you can use to make sure the exhaust note doesn't take away from it's original nature. :nod:

It'd be comical to hear that jetting past you with a dirty big pigeon noise coming from the bonnet!! :D

Silane

15-05-2011, 14:16

People would be tossing off over it if it had a CA in it!

Keep up the good work.

skinz180189

15-05-2011, 15:23

IIRC there is one, or has been one kicking about on here somewhere.

Somebody sold a CA'd 14 a few months back, was a cheap drifter.

Alfaholical

15-05-2011, 16:22

As mentioned previously the Nissan motor dropped stright onto the existing mounting points. So I ordered some new uprated competition mounts from Classic Alfa (basically stiffer rubber) and fabricated mounts combining part Nissan and Part Alfa from 3mm steel plate.

It did not take long to realise that using a top mount would be simpler than a bottom mount turbo due to space restrictions. I could have chopped the inner wings about but I want to preserve the car as much as possible.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPgQ6bhEI/AAAAAAAAG6I/2LS7VdirlUE/s640/DSCF6645.JPG

The manifold flange is for a T3 rather than the T28 so I bought a T2 flange put the stainless wire in the mig and after some cutting and welding had a new flange to accept the T28.

After spending two days scaping and burning off old soundproofing I could lay down some etch promer.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPs1EIJEI/AAAAAAAAG7A/ILLQVTQySlA/s640/DSCF6676.JPG

Then off to Powerspeed to get them to make me one of their lovely stainless exhausts 3" down pipe to 2.5" full system. Good for well over the 300hp I am looking for. Key design brief was to keep it looking standard at the back.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPzMMnv_I/AAAAAAAAHko/AlLxn43wd6c/s640/DSCF6884.JPG.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnPvvPBVOI/AAAAAAAAG7U/HImb4ykY93U/s640/DSCF6879.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnP41plvrI/AAAAAAAAG78/Br8M11F5npQ/s640/DSCF6919.JPG

Engine bay all looking a bit skanky so need to clean this up....

More on this later

Jim

Chriscooke

15-05-2011, 16:42

I'm in love with this project. I get the feeling it's further on than this thread shows somehow also :)

:cool:

15-05-2011, 17:02

i'm going to hunt you down and hurt you.

seriously. an sr into an alfa. and not any alfa but a fecking classic alfa.

you will burn in the fiery pits of hell my man

This ^^^^

if you had put any other engine in there, I would have loved this project. But an SR20??? Sorry, I hate it :(

Alfaholical

15-05-2011, 17:17

I'm in love with this project. I get the feeling it's further on than this thread shows somehow also :)

:cool:

Yep quite a bit further :)

Alfaholical

15-05-2011, 17:18

This ^^^^

if you had put any other engine in there, I would have loved this project. But an SR20??? Sorry, I hate it :(

Got some FD Mazda stuff too :D

MattyGee

15-05-2011, 17:19

Really Ed ? :rolleyes: Considering this is the effing SX Owners Club it amazes me how much hate the SR gets - its a great little engine mainly maligned by those who have the least reason to complain about it :p Its just in vogue to say its shite for no actual reason :sleep:

Great project, In your position I dont think I could have done the same myself, id feel the pressure to keep it 100% original but good on you for being brave enough to do something different :)

Sideways14a

15-05-2011, 17:23

Seriously i dont get the hate for the SR that only seems to be on this forum, nowhere else do you find so much dislike for the motor.

Is it jealousy? or just a "scene" - the SR haters scene lol...

Its complete rubbish, the hatred i mean. The blacktop SR isnt perfect (its got a shit head for a start) but the diddly little CA aint some supernatural beast either - or RB's or V8s or what not.

folken

15-05-2011, 17:41

nowhere else do you find so much dislike for the motor.
Believe me, you do :( on some other SX owners forums, even not in UK ...

I don't really get it either, I don't even have to complain about it's sound.
It's an engine, it makes noise ... like all the others, I think :p

Maybe it doesn't rev like a ca, or doesn't feel as aggressive due to the nvcs giving more low/mid range torque.
But if that's what I was after, I would have bought a <strike>lawnmower</strike> honda

Alfaholical

15-05-2011, 18:39

This ^^^^

if you had put any other engine in there, I would have loved this project. But an SR20??? Sorry, I hate it :(

Not sure of why there is a dislike for the engine that powers the car that this club is so linked to. I can only think it is down to it's popularity :)

The SR20DET is a readily available reliable power, sharing very similar dimensions to the Alfa Nord engine. Alfa V6s are too heavy and large, Alfa Nord based Twin Sparks are getting like hens teeth and quite expensive to tune. If you turbo it it will sound similar to an SR20DET. Modern Alfas are front wheel drive and no natural gearbox option.

Just a little bit of conspiracy theory....... There are rumours that during the 80's when Alfa Romeo, like most of the Italian motor industry, was skint it sold a lot of its engineering technology to buy manufacturing technology and realise some cash. This is evidenced in the joint venture between Nissan and Alfa Romeo who collaborated to produce the Alfa Arna (Nissan Cherry with Alfasud mechanicals). The engine design both internally and externally is suspiciously similar which makes me think there may be some basis to this claim.

But as I said before I thought this might case a bit of division.

- Jim

Alfaholical

15-05-2011, 19:04

Got some FD Mazda stuff too :D

Back in the sixties my Alfa was way ahead of it's time. 5 speed all synchro gearbox, Discs all round and over 100hp out of a 1600cc. Indeed the 280mm discs were very impressive at pulling the car down from over 100mph.

I wanted to build a classic with modern mechanicals and whilst the existing braking system worked well it had a few weak points. The biggest being that it was single circuit meaning a single master cylinder dictated to whether you were going to stop or not. Later cars had dual circuit brakes but these too had there problems including an expensive dual servo system and tandem master cylinder arrangement. So what do you do to improve. The car ran 15" wheels as standard (now retro fitted with wider GTA replica alloys rather than the skinny steels) so I measured what was the biggest disc I could fit. There are a few companies selling aftermarket big brake conversions but these were nearly a grand.

290mm seemed to be the largest anyone had fitted and there was some reference to Mazda FD3 being the correct offset and with ali calipers that were nice and light. Any how I got some Mazda Calipers on ebay and bought a pair of brembo disks which I had turned them down from 292 to 290.

before...
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVnP_h7qDGI/AAAAAAAAG8g/TK2LfCAl41o/s640/DSCF6928.JPG

during...
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVwii5ilAII/AAAAAAAAG-Y/-qz2ZykgiZA/s640/DSCF6948.JPGhttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TX5vBUaWwNI/AAAAAAAAHFY/OrtCsnGT0sA/s640/DSCF6975.JPG

after...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TX5vXcR7YgI/AAAAAAAAHGo/vemUd6cMOkw/s640/DSCF6997.JPG Incl cheesy Alfa Logos.

so what to do about the master cylinder and pedal box set up. More to follow....

- Jim

15-05-2011, 19:30

I really cant be bothered to explain why I dislike the SR20 so much. So, with that in mind....

Great project, but I personally would have chosen a different engine :thumbs:

marko14a

15-05-2011, 20:10

How about a v8 in my Pug 205 GTi? :wack:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=466819240130#!/group.php?gid=466819240130&v=app_2392950137

Scougar

16-05-2011, 11:13

Daz

16-05-2011, 11:19

I really cant be bothered to explain why I dislike the SR20 so much. So, with that in mind....

Great project, but I personally would have chosen a different engine :thumbs:

The SR is a cracking engine but it sounds pants. The reason it doesn't belong in the alfa is because it doesn't suit it's personality.

I'd much rather see any other kind of engine running on a nice set of bike carbs in that alfa. It has nothing to do with power.

Mark

16-05-2011, 11:26

The SR is a cracking engine but it sounds pants.

It sounds like a fooking 4 pot turbo FFS :wack: I seriously dont get this 'SR sounds shit' bollox. Maybe its because of all straight through chinese exhausts people put on them :wack:

Great project :thumbs: you should have stuck a Cossie lump in there though :D

Jonny Wilkinson

16-05-2011, 11:36

Daz

16-05-2011, 11:38

Is it just me or do those Alfa brakes look like the 4-pots off an S14 with Alfa written on them ? :wack:

They defo aren't S14 brakes.

Kazuya Mishima

16-05-2011, 11:39

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=466819240130#!/group.php?gid=466819240130&v=app_2392950137

That car is flippin' nuts! :D

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m271/chrispeugeot205gti/pic43.jpg

Jonny Wilkinson

16-05-2011, 11:44

They defo aren't S14 brakes.

Maybe I just rebuilt and fitted Mazda 4-pots to my 13 then ? :confused:

What can you see that makes them "defo not s14 brakes" ?

EDIT: Actually, I can see that the hose fitment is angled not straight like a 14. Apart from that though, they look the same to me.

EDIT 2: Can't help but feel that 280x30mm disks redrilled to 4-stud and 4-pots off his donor car would have been almost as good. He might also have been able to filtch the pedal box and mastercylinder off the donor car too.

Mark

16-05-2011, 11:49

Similar but not identical

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee283/peter261/DSC00255.jpg

16-05-2011, 11:54

FD brakes are very similar to 14 ones, but with bigger discs. Sumitomo made calipers. Piston look identical too.
Only difference appears to be bracket spacing, and alloy construction.

Jonny Wilkinson

16-05-2011, 12:00

Similar but not identical

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee283/peter261/DSC00255.jpg

Euuuw. Crusty. :hurl: I was thinking more...

http://www.sxoc.com/apps/libs/displayImage.php?image_id=11748

Daz

16-05-2011, 12:06

Euuuw. Crusty. :hurl: I was thinking more...

http://www.sxoc.com/apps/libs/displayImage.php?image_id=11748

Those are the same as Mark's photo. You can see the individual pistons on the calipers (it's just difficult to see on your photo as they are dark) unlike the ones the OP has fitted. :nod:

Alfaholical

16-05-2011, 12:07

Will you be uprating the engine bushes, or uprating (or replacing with new) any of the suspension components/bushes?

Also.. what will you be doing about axle tramp (I know I'm not quite using the 'correct' term here but I'm sure you know what I mean.)

Engine bushes upgraded to competition spec. Fully polybushed FIA suspension and geometry kit. Upgraded front ARB. Also Bilsteins, Shortened GTA spec steering arms, Late model LSD equipped axle. Will build a watts linkage for the rear if necessary.

- Jim

Alfaholical

16-05-2011, 12:11

Is it just me or do those Alfa brakes look like the 4-pots off an S14 with Alfa written on them ? :wack:

Great project BTW. I'm liking the minimalist approach to chopping the car about that will give you a greeaaattt sleeper. :nod:

If it was me, I'd ask the mods to clean up the thread to get rid of all the off-topic "SRs sound shit" comments. :annoyed:

The brakes are Mazda FD3 with Mazda scraped off painted red and Alfa Logos put in place (wasnt sure of the AR logos but I can always paint over later).

I am trying to see how long I am allowed on an Alfa track day before anyone spots the mods.:wack:

- Jim

arry

16-05-2011, 12:23

The brakes are Mazda FD3 with Mazda scraped off painted red and Alfa Logos put in place (wasnt sure of the AR logos but I can always paint over later).

I am trying to see how long I am allowed on an Alfa track day before anyone spots the mods.:wack:

- Jim

Nice work on those :thumbs: I think it'd be interesting to tell people they're rare Alfa 4 pots from 1972 or something, see who believes you :D

Sideways14a

16-05-2011, 12:35

That many Jap parts on this it may be the first Alfa ever that is reliable :p

Scougar

16-05-2011, 12:51

Very nice on the suspension :-) Looking forward to seeing some more build pictures :-)

[For the track day] Just get a decent bonnet lock on the car.. and ensure you have a decent undertray lol. Oh, and don't forget about noise level, you won't be allowed on track without it being under the noise limit don't forget.

Jonny Wilkinson

16-05-2011, 13:10

Those are the same as Mark's photo. You can see the individual pistons on the calipers (it's just difficult to see on your photo as they are dark) unlike the ones the OP has fitted. :nod:

Daz, I know what Mark posted were 14 calipers and I know what I fitted to my own car. :wack:

I was trying to subtly point out that what the OP had gone to a lot of trouble to buy from ebay was pretty much what he already had sitting on his donor car and could have re-purposed. Mark posting pictures of nasty, crusty calipers with no disks wasn't helping my point so I posted a pic that showed what he could have made fit to a hub requiring a 4-stud pattern.

Daz

16-05-2011, 13:17

Daz, I know what Mark posted were 14 calipers and I know what I fitted to my own car. :wack:

I was trying to subtly point out that what the OP had gone to a lot of trouble to buy from ebay was pretty much what he already had sitting on his donor car and could have re-purposed. Mark posting pictures of nasty, crusty calipers with no disks wasn't helping my point so I posted a pic that showed what he could have made fit to a hub requiring a 4-stud pattern.

Lol, I'm not having a good morning so far. I should of stayed in bed lol. :annoyed:

Scougar

16-05-2011, 14:20

ekjim

16-05-2011, 14:35

Excellent project!

Dan@DB-Power

16-05-2011, 14:46

I doubt S14 calipers would have gone on as easily, as the Mazda ones have a wider centre to centre mounting hole, which is allowing him to squeeze the mounting holes either side of his original mounting holes :)

Also the disc thinkness is different. S14 calipers take a 30mm disc where as the Mazda ones are about 24mm :)

Awesome project though :) good luck

Dan:thumbs:

Alfaholical

16-05-2011, 19:13

Excellent project!

Hey Jim

It was following your project that got me registered and a new thread started. :thumbs: Just love retro cars.

- Jim

Alfaholical

16-05-2011, 19:18

To be fair, they would have had Nissan on the side unlike the Mazda calipers, unless he had the detailing taken off. BTW.. to get Ali calipers like the Mazda's (if I'm reading his post correctly) he would have had to have got Z32 calipers, so would have have to have bought something else anyway. (Although I saw exactly what you were saying).

Exactly right. I want to keep the unsprung weight down so ali calipers was a must. Going from plain disks and iron 2 pot calipers to vented and ali 4 pot adds 700g per side. I may save up and go for some ali belled rotors some day and then the I will be in net credit. :D

There are kits out there for just shy of a grand but my setup cost me roughly £300 (approx £100 was on Ferodo DS2500 pads).

- Jim

Delboy

16-05-2011, 20:07

Love this project :nod:

Old school cars with modern power plants and mechanicals are awesome. The reliability and performance of the modern tech coupled with the style and rarity of the classic car, win win in my book.

Couldn't give a stuff what engine you're putting in there, it's your car and it is going to be a serious toy when it's finished (although judging by the speed of updates it is either already finished or very close to being finished!).

Will be following this with interest :)

Yakko

16-05-2011, 21:07

For the first 30 seconds of reading this thread I hated it, but have now completely changed my mind. Incredibly pretty little car, modern, reliable engine with a decent slug of power. It's not had it's soul removed, it's just had it changed.

I love it.

:thumbs:

Alfaholical

16-05-2011, 22:17

Once the car was back from Powerspeed with it's shiny new exhaust system it was time to fit the tunnel that Ed had beautifully fabricated.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVwikof9sSI/AAAAAAAAG-g/45E3smYONu4/s640/DSCF6950.JPG

As you can see the gear leaver hole has been opened up so as not to stress the gearbox cover plated ring (not sure what its called... the bit the gearlever goes through) when the engine rocks. We had to cut another 5" x 8" section out of the footwell to allow a bit of extra clearance around the exhaust downpipe. Another piece of Alfa for the loft to go with the tunnel.

A bit of dressing with the grinder and the interior was ready for paint. I am fitting a roll cage so I am going to be doing quite a bit of touching up but I wanted to get some paint protection on the tunnel.

While I was in painting mood I pulled the engine out and cleaned the engine bay of 40+ years of grime. The old Nord engine leaked plenty of oil which preserved it from rust well, but all this grime had to come off so as to have a clean engine bay.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TVwilp20VUI/AAAAAAAAG-k/T72K-8lfL6o/s640/DSCF6951.JPG

I spent an age masking up the interior to avoid getting paint where I didnt want it. Decorating sheet and masking tape worked well and I was impressed with how well rattle cans with 2k worked. If anyone does this make sure they have the correct mask and eye protection as 2k is horrible stuff and its not worth the risk of getting it in your lungs.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TX5uwipQiGI/AAAAAAAAHEg/no_MChG0z1Q/s640/DSCF6961.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TX5uxXjiI2I/AAAAAAAAHEk/yjSfQ9DnCLM/s640/DSCF6962.JPG

As mentioned previously the weak point of the early Sprint GT braking system was that it was single circuit. A bit of originality I could do without. I could have gone for the later tandem system but the master cylinders are rare and stupidly expensive. There are aftermarket twin cylinder systems available but at dual circuit systems but I choked at nearly £600 and that is without a hydraulic clutch conversion.

The pedals on the Alfa are floor mounted with the master cylinders exposed to all the road can through at them causing all kind or corrosion issues and leaving them exposed to getting a whack from kerbs (street and circuit) so I went on the hunt for an alternative.

The Alfa footwell bulkhead is half engine bay and half wheelarch so the usual solution of fitting the master cylinders through the bulkhead would be challenging, particularly as the bulkhead is a very curved (like the end of a bath...not the tap end!). Hanging pedals would have required a lot of fabrication and again chopping up the originality of the car.

After much searching I came across the rear facing master cylinder system made by OBP. OBP are well known in racing, kit cars and the aftermarket world. They manufacture decent quality products at reasonable prices. They sell a complete set of 3 pedals incl master cylinders and bias adjuster for less than half the Alfa aftermarket equivalent.

With the engine out I fitted the brake, clutch and fuel lines. The latter was 7m of 10mm copper pipe providing feed from the tank and back again. Thanks to my mate Lee who helped me with this. I have a mandrel to bend it but in reality thumbs and knees worked well also by careful bending I could avoid joints and only had to solder one 90deg elbow. I used soft copper from the pedals to the engine bay and kunifer in the engine bay and under the car as it is much tougher.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TcHV2D6lm_I/AAAAAAAAHWc/9u0qFCrHzOs/s640/DSCF7001.JPG

An alloy plate covers the master cylinders to rest your heels on.

Much headscratching accompanied how to do a 90 degree bend on the throttle cable but Mr Yamaha supplied a tight 90degree motorcycle throttle tube and once pointing in the right direction it was simply a case of using a teflon lined venhill universal m'bike cable to get it to the throttle. Pedal travel is a bit longer than perfect so I may get one of those smaller throttle pulleys.

More on that later...

- Jim

Arnie

17-05-2011, 13:53

You're doing a massive project man and I like the quality. I know how much work you've done, but it's a lot of fun as well!!!

As for the motor choice, each to their own but I had 2 non-turbo s14's and few turbo ones and there's nothing on earth to convince me to an n/a motor in 2l class. If it was a huge american v8 lump then that's another story, no turbos needed. If turbo choice/wastegate control/mapping is done properly there's no noticeable lag. Power delivery can be quick and smooth as on ANY 2l n/a.

I think you made a right decision, old engine/gearbox would be a waste of time in reliability terms and after squeezing more power it would become un-driveable on the street.

I'd like to do a CA powered S14a, quite surprised that I haven't seen one yet, tbh. The resulting thread would be epic. :sxoc:

IIRC there is one, or has been one kicking about on here somewhere.

[QUOTE=Rob_SX;5813372]an idea almost worth doing!

I've just finished CA18det into s14 and Mitsubishi Evo TD05 twin scroll turbo onto CA18det. Easy electricals, easy to diagnose, easy to fix, fast enough. The Silvia had previously a non turbo sr20de, piece of junk.

Photo done during testing for boost leak:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu86/Arnie_180sx/enginebay.jpg

Cloudy

17-05-2011, 17:03

Awesome project.

remo

17-05-2011, 18:11

:thumbs:

Alfaholical

17-05-2011, 19:12

The Alfa originally came equipped with low back seats with seat belts that flopped over your shoulder without giving much attention to safety. This was an area I was not willing to accept (the one area I wasnt going to compromise to maintain originality is safety). So a roll cage and decent belts and seats are a must.

As with most 44 year old cars there will be some corrosion. My Alfa was restored in the mid 90's and on the whole the restorer did a good job. While painting I did find one area that needed attention. And after all there is little point in attaching a roll cage to rust so it need to be fixed. I could have had a go but Ed was on the case in no time the old corroded steel was cut out and replaced with fresh. It is now nice and strong.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TX5vJMv0scI/AAAAAAAAHF0/pY-o5PZyxbw/s640/DSCF6981.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TX5vLwa9KrI/AAAAAAAAHF4/wS7DE6IiUzk/s640/DSCF6982.JPG

I scratched up the floor quite a bit putting the rear cage in so I will need to tidy this up later.

While I was at it I also panelled up the bulkead so that the boot and tank is clearly separated. The panels were in 2mm Ali and I did consider for a minute leaving them in bare ally but I decided to drill the rivet holes, clean up, acid etch and paint.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TcHVcQ51N8I/AAAAAAAAHU0/2lF9Gh_MwyU/s640/DSCF7013.JPG

My Bosch 044 pump and 300ZX filter had turned up so I finished installing these in the well that was the bottom of the old tank. Bryn had included a lovely splash bowl with my tank so I fitted this too. Some of the Alfa guys fit their gel batteries here too but I really don't fancy having anything sparky near the tank, pump, fuel vapours etc. I decided the battery would be either in the passenger compartment or under the bonnet.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TcHVeXLTjhI/AAAAAAAAHVA/144DT7PZiKU/s640/DSCF7016.JPG

The car has a fuel flap and some people weld these up with the competition tank but I has just put in a butyl seal that will keep all the water out and stop access to the boot. The new tank uses the Alfa sender unit so other than extending the wires I can use the original gauge. Sound simple ....not really more on this later.

After fitting a brake light switch into the front brake circuit I could install the fluid reservior a nice tripple job from Car Builder Solutions that does both brake circuits and clutch along with a low fluid level indicator. The original Alfa brake system would let you know when there was no fluid by allowing full pedal travel with little slowing until you hit something :eek:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TcHV3SIBmtI/AAAAAAAAHWk/h61eBS7JYbk/s640/DSCF7002.JPG

I have also installed so high tech heat shielding to the bulkhead I have applied even more than this since the pic (as I expect the turbo will be getting nice and toasty).

A load of suspension parts which I sent off for blasting and powdercoating had come back and I was running out of jobs to do before dropping the engine back in. More on that later.....

- Jim

Chriscooke

17-05-2011, 19:22

This Ed you keep talking of isn't Ed china is it :wack:

17-05-2011, 19:30

Well its certainly not me :wack:

Dave270R

17-05-2011, 19:39

Just seen this, awesome project :notworthy

All purists/haters bollocks to ya :D

jod

17-05-2011, 20:31

Chavbo

17-05-2011, 21:32

Before I wasn't too sure about your engine choice but the more I read, the more im liking it.

I'm another that can't understand the hatred of the sr. It's a fact that its a better engine than the ca. Yeah out the box it's not all that good (same goes with the ca) but it has a shit more tuning potential than the old pig iron ca. If it was that shit then you guys should tell the guys at Mazworxs where there going wrong.

Pipe down love :D

Love this car :smitten: I'm not the SR's biggest fan either but like Si I actually don't have an issue with it being in this car, much like the other Jim's Anglia. Very cool :cool:

Bet you didn't even get as much grief as this over the engine choice on an Alfa purists forum :wack:

jod

17-05-2011, 21:33

Blow me ;)

Alfaholical

19-05-2011, 22:57

Geometry pack refitted along with new adjustable camber arms and new polybushes/balljoints and spherical wishbone bearings. Checked the wheel bearings but these were as new so just repacked them with grease. Rust protection thanks to POR 15 and powdercoating. You can also see the home made caliper adaptors (big lump of T6 ally). Whilst functional these are prototype and may get a set machined up and anodised to look a bit prettier.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TX5vGsE12-I/AAAAAAAAHFs/NKkTwDQDopQ/s640/DSCF6980.JPG

Engine in along with battery and Rover 200 fuse box fresh from the breakers.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TcHVfZ1AndI/AAAAAAAAHVE/wHcynn1zLEQ/s640/DSCF7017.JPG

Need to redirect the turbo outlet again so that it gets a nice cler run to the intercooler

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TcHVpcvLxVI/AAAAAAAAHVo/Ut-zwEVhPxQ/s640/DSCF7025.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TcuIMlmhVkI/AAAAAAAAHiw/Olu6S2Bi54E/s640/DSCF7039.JPG
Intercooler in hanging off the modified rad. There seems to be different opinion on what gap to leave between the rad and the i/c. I ended up going for approx 7mm which will allow some air to get round the i/c when stationary in traffic.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TcuIPGqRjsI/AAAAAAAAHjA/519UJfuctFk/s640/DSCF7035.JPG

Tom got on with the wiring (hardly anything left of the original loom as it was just a fire waiting to happen). For example Alfa run a wire for the horn down the inside of the steering column no problem on first look until you see it is permanent live and not fused :eek: I have the full S14 loom so lots of the relays finding a new home.

While Tom was hard at work with the soldering iron I started playing with silicone :D

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_hMY_xrfRZKk/TcuIL2H23OI/AAAAAAAAHis/UXCgxHYzEaw/s640/DSCF7040.JPG.

A few things to do before attempting a start up.... mainly coolant system related. More on this later.....

- Jim

19-05-2011, 23:22

Please tell me you're going to modify the rocker cover in some way to say "Alfa Romeo" and confuse the bejeebus out of people??? :D

Vez

20-05-2011, 08:27

I love the projects section, leave it alone for a few months and something enchanting apears like this :smitten:

Django67

20-05-2011, 08:33

Please tell me you're going to modify the rocker cover in some way to say "Alfa Romeo" and confuse the bejeebus out of people??? :D

^ brilliant idea. :nod:

Scougar

20-05-2011, 10:05

Alfaholical

20-05-2011, 12:24

What's the reason for the Rover Fuse box? (Thought it might have been more logical to use the Nissan's?)

Like the rocker cover idea :-) Personally I do think you need to remove the 'Nissan' from the rocker :-)

The Nissan fuse box is hoooge and designed for a loads of accessories such as ABS, Aircon, Electric windows etc... The Rover item is very compact as you can see I don't have much room to spare. There are more fuses inside the car but the primary ones are under the bonnet.

I will be removing the Nissan Rocker logo but still on a hunt for a spare rocker cover to crackle paint or polish. Not sure about the putting Alfa Romeo on it (still unsure of the calipers).

- Jim

samcash88

20-05-2011, 14:43

I have a sr rocker cover £25 posted? Pm me if interested.

On a side note I've just read this and love it!!

Alfaholical

20-05-2011, 16:03

Bet you didn't even get as much grief as this over the engine choice on an Alfa purists forum :wack:

I don't plan on telling them.....straight away :D

800bhp

20-05-2011, 16:08

I think it's great :thumbs:

(wondering if i could fit an SR into one of my alfasuds and convert to rwd?) :D:D

DeanS15

20-05-2011, 16:08

I don't plan on telling them.....straight away :D

when you do, please link it on here :nod:

ekjim

20-05-2011, 16:20

The engine bay looks excellent :nod:

Alfaholical

20-05-2011, 17:28

The engine bay looks excellent :nod:

Thanks mate. :thumbs:

Alfaholical

20-05-2011, 17:31

I think it's great :thumbs:

(wondering if i could fit an SR into one of my alfasuds and convert to rwd?) :D:D

Can't see why not. But wouldnt Scooby running gear be easier. Make it 4WD too.

- Jim

mercedessx

22-05-2011, 11:00

Mate i love it but i also loved the original !!!

itrhondaboy

22-05-2011, 11:07

Excellent work loving it!

Chriscooke

29-05-2011, 11:18

Any updates?

Alfaholical

31-05-2011, 12:09

Any updates?

Will try and post some this evening. She runs but still lots to do.

- Jim

twaiter

31-05-2011, 19:06

lovely car:nod: well done:thumbs:

Alfaholical

31-05-2011, 22:36

Well the next job was to sort out the coolant system. I have used the Alfa radiator (it was relatively new) but had it modified so that there was sufficient room for the intercooler outlets.

On the original alfa both the speedo and tacho were cable driven so I sent the clocks off to "Speedy Cables" to put new modern components inside the cases. The water temp works off a Alfa sender in a universal 31mm inline boss. The fuel guage works off the original sender (now) in a new tank. So just oil temp and pressure to sort. Oil pressure will probably be via a sandwich plate but not much room and oil temp will either also be in the sandwich plate or tapped into the sump.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_hVoO_wcSaA/TcuIQI0osLI/AAAAAAAAHjE/TSBM67_t75E/s640/DSCF7034.JPG

Not a lot gives them away to be anything but standard (except the small green lcd section on the speedo). All look good but I am still trying to get them to work. My understanding is that the S14 Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) gives out a rather weak analogue signal which is in turn amplified and converted to a digital signal to the ECU via the clocks. I need this digital signal for my modified Alfa clocks so I am trying to use the PCB from an s14 speedo to do this. I await the wisdom of SXOC to help me identify 12V, Ground, Input & Output.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gj2lo3A3nx8/TdcF6AWbpsI/AAAAAAAAHlY/T7eXETi2dpA/s640/DSCF7048_2.jpg

I have just got back from the Laon Circuit Historique so not much progress on the Alfa as I had to get my Fury ready to participate.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-17IVJ7QDiO0/SID1cRgbucI/AAAAAAAAFxU/INNCZSCTvg4/s640/DSCF3170.JPG
1000cc 450kgs and 160hp, its a completely different animal to the Alfa

Next job is to modify the heater and fit the seats more on that later...........

- Jim

Delboy

14-06-2011, 19:23

Any further progress?

Chriscooke

22-06-2011, 15:28

Bump :wave:

Alfaholical

27-06-2011, 14:41

Sorry no updates for a while just back from hols in the Fury. Will be back to it this week.

- Jim

Kiruji

27-06-2011, 15:17

I've just seen this. Awesome project :thumbs:

I can see the purists point of view, but balls to them, it's your car... Should have used a CA though :wack:

Aripug

27-06-2011, 15:25

Amazing Project!!!!
I will follow this thread...i love it!!! :D
Ciao from Italy
Arian

Actual_Ben_Taylor

27-06-2011, 15:28

Should have used a CA though :wack:

Why? Its was already slow and unreliable before...

Kiruji

27-06-2011, 15:32

Why? Its was already slow and unreliable before...

LOL, I know... Adding an SR is going to improve the reliability no end... :wack:

Munkul

27-06-2011, 16:20

Just read all of this thread...

Mr Alfaholic, you are completely and utterly off your head :sxoc:

This is an awesome project. I think its the fact that you're taking a classic car with an ancient old engine and chassis, upgrading everything in sight, giving it 300bhp and leave it looking relatively standard... Always had a soft spot for alfas, especially their engines, and I can see where all the hate has came from.

But what I love is that you've picked the engine on its actual practical benefits (ie, light, compact, powerful, relatively cheap, and reliable) rather than the usual sentimental reasons most people put an engine in for.

I happen to love the SR sound when it has a good exhaust system, and I think the SR growl sounds kinda oldschool anyways. It'll certainly confuse everyone at italian car shows :D

Alfaholical

22-07-2011, 12:35

Oh well I should get used to the last 5% of a car build taking 50% of the time. Lots of progress but not much worth photographing.

Three things really:-

1. After spending hours trying to get a clean feed from the Nissan VSS to feed my speedo (ie including going through the S14 speedo board pictured previously) I gave up and bought a hall sensor from Speedy Cables which works by sensing ferrous objects passing by it. In this case off the bolts holding the prop flange to the diff. Got it all set up and then found that the LCD panel on the speedo was not working. So have had to send back to Speedy Cables to repair. (they promised it would be with me yesterday but nothing and they are closed apart from a receptionist today.....grrrr)

2. Next challenge was the lights. Alfas of this age gave permanent live to lights which is not ideal as there is a risk that they could flatten the battery quite quickly. I could put them all to ignition live but that meant no side lights withought the ignition on. I tried to just give power to the sides but they were backfeeding to the headlights. Anyway the solution was a combination of switching relays and diodes.

3. Next problem was the steering arm. I was never very happy with it as it wasnt quite as sturdy as I would like (it is a little "mission critical" so I am getting a 25mm tubed version made up).

The trim is starting to go back in and will take some pics tonight to post.

- Jim

dan_bourne

25-07-2011, 12:10

awesome project, again, i understand why people are saying you should have left the engine, but the sr is a great choice, it also can sound great,

it only sounds shit when those f***ing fanboys on driftworks and those emo's on stanceworks put shitty bargain basement chinese exhausts on them.

great choice, great project : )

Alfaholical

11-08-2011, 14:10

As they say the last 10% of a project takes 90% of the time. This is definately the case with this project. As a result of increasing the tunnel size I had to think about how to retain a heater/demister. The tunnel now has taken up where the heater fan was! The matrix was also pretty much shot. I want to keep the car as standard looking as possible so I decided to fit a modern T7design version inside the old heater box and modify the existing controls so that they still look and operate as standard.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_w3126F5Ndg/TcHVgIWf0lI/AAAAAAAAHVI/kS_4Rg7BAwc/s720/DSCF7018.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-sECqy7DmJIg/TcHVkQy6pEI/AAAAAAAAHVY/6TS3b0s2Q5o/s720/DSCF7021.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-H7FzhlnUlTo/TcuITLuhjEI/AAAAAAAAHjY/ZaYMY1me2S8/s720/DSCF7029.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-W2-XQLc7sZ8/TcuISizobQI/AAAAAAAAHjU/Noub1CVucPc/s720/DSCF7030.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IcCWpAM8rGo/TkQhcFFyVMI/AAAAAAAAIRA/1g9qPknsWJc/s640/DSCF7310.JPG

It wafts warm air rather than blasting it but lets see how it works.

- Jim

Pete C

11-08-2011, 14:21

It's a heater box and controls?

EDIT: Ignore me, not all the pics were there when I posted that.

The attention to detail here is amazing :thumbs:

Alfaholical

11-08-2011, 20:06

Put the grille back on and was surprised how well it hides what lurks behind :)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8oxQbqaQ0Bc/TkQhZMnhsFI/AAAAAAAAIQ0/HU3kh2JGDgI/s640/DSCF7307.JPG

Get close and things are a little clearer.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rpMM_-ywcl0/TkQhaxZdxHI/AAAAAAAAIQ4/phQn6NDGH64/s640/DSCF7308.JPG

As mentioned previously as a result in my total failure in getting the Nissan VSS to talk to my speedo I needed to find a speedo take off. So I made up a bracket drill one of the webs on the diff and bolted in place. Popped it in gear and it all worked well. Just need to calibrate it next.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KGM3YODP08k/TkQhgZmQjwI/AAAAAAAAIRQ/wa80lxXIJRM/s640/DSCF7315.JPG

My fifth attempt at a steering arm seems to be sucessful. My mate Nev bent up some 25mm CDS and after lots of tacking in place this was the end result.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_L9KRh7SXeM/TkQj8J5fF7I/AAAAAAAAIRo/VgNIW5qiTuw/s640/DSCF7342.JPG

It now does full lock and is tough as the preverbial and is not the lowest part of the car.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2O_VwPPR_gs/TkQj87lYHRI/AAAAAAAAIRs/3PwO6no3X_c/s640/DSCF7343.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3zxYpiw4E18/TkQj92z6PhI/AAAAAAAAIRw/MRPHQL0RgTo/s640/DSCF7344.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LYKyDI9xeMY/TkQkATjg4dI/AAAAAAAAIR4/L4fdkQKJJ7M/s640/DSCF7346.JPG

Need to sort the tracking but need to get the new steering wheel on first.

- Jim

Evilchap

11-08-2011, 20:21

Love your project - excellent progress :D

Alfaholical

01-09-2011, 13:47

Two weeks away on hols in Cyprus meant no progress but a welcome bit of sunshine and R&R.

Most of the mechanicals are now done so time to sort the interior and electricals. I'll spare you all the pictures of carpeting the interior but needless to say it was not my favourite part of the job. The Alfa has lot of curves and bumps on the floor and I dont own a sewing machine and am no patchwork expert.

I bought two rolls of ebay carpet (as used in the New Mini) which is advertised and formable with heat. Lots of swearing, hot air gun moulding and paper templates I managed to have the carpet roughly to shape with less than ten pieces. It seemed a shame to cover up all that metalwork that I had carefully prepped and painted but I think it makes the car look more finished.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KS2jn6BzLm4/Tl3bK8eJstI/AAAAAAAAITU/jWGv6BJLs_s/s720/DSCF7575.JPG

The old Alfa seats whilst comfortable had very little side support and were low back so offered little in the way of protection. I searched high and low for suitable highback seats but they either looked too modern, were not comfortable, too heavy or wouldn't fit. At the Autosport show some time back I tried a pair of Recaro Pole positions which were ideal but a bit pricey. I kept an eye on special offers and ebay but when they did turn up they were still priicey or very tired looking. Anyhow a few months back after a few beers I bought a secondhand set of leather alcantara pole positions for more that I care to mention and these have been sitting in the spare room awaiting a purpose in life. They are a tight fit in the little Alfa but perfect for my needs.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o3F5kD55GZc/Tl3bCj6TzoI/AAAAAAAAIUM/MDJxaKeSJPY/s512/DSCF7567.JPG

Lack of headroom meant I had to abandon the the idea of sliders so these are fixed items sat upon subframes that I fabricated. A pair of Sabelt 3" harnesses will help me stay in my seat on the road and track.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8jRs2vf-99I/Tl3bDz8brNI/AAAAAAAAIS4/byuxNjogXRM/s720/DSCF7568.JPG

With the pedals moved closer and the seats further back I needed a nicely dished steering wheel. The OMP Corsica does the job. I might get a wooden one too at some point.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--gG2Q4sfSA8/Tl3bJvEbViI/AAAAAAAAITQ/wyPH2GgAQ9s/s720/DSCF7574.JPG

Update on fuses, boot floor and a few panics before MoT time in next post....

- Jim

Evilchap

01-09-2011, 14:03

:smitten: :D

Lex.

01-09-2011, 17:57

Cooool, awesoem progresmate :)

Alfaholical

01-09-2011, 20:10

Thanks guys :)

skinz180189

01-09-2011, 20:31

Top notch work.

Alfaholical

02-09-2011, 16:16

A list of jobs is always a good thing when building cars. Its always a bit depressing to start with a hooge list which just gets added to but I am now down to one side of A4 with only the occasional item being added to.

Top of the list was sorting the location of the fuses inside the car. The original fuse box had only eight fuses. I now have over thirty...twenty of them are inside the car.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nhBrZ-0h9Zw/Tl3bGa2ImEI/AAAAAAAAITE/dq6vuOvWASw/s720/DSCF7571.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KS2jn6BzLm4/Tl3bK8eJstI/AAAAAAAAITU/jWGv6BJLs_s/s720/DSCF7575.JPG

This was just about the last job before the MoT so I went and booked it in.

Car needed a wash as it was very dirty. Scrubbed up quite well although the photo is kind to the paintwork.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KVDc2NSP7js/Tl7B7hWCyMI/AAAAAAAAITs/jOyt6ujGQag/s720/DSCF7581.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ltB2ShoDHQM/Tl7B1zZR6PI/AAAAAAAAITc/-enShKb1m18/s720/DSCF7577.JPG

The trip to the MoT station was great fun as I had practically no brakes to start with. Bias bar was set fully to the rear and the disks and pads were brand new. But after winding the bias adjuster and a few stops the brakes came to life. The lack of servo means you have to push quite hard on the pedal but the braking is fairly good and getting better and better.

The MoT was nice and uneventful (tester made a comment that the tracking was out) so the next milestione now complete !!

I am having the car mapped next week so I am pussy footing around but I can feel that the car will be quite quick. I have wired in the Gizzmo discreetly under the dash and the bright blue led display was showing the boost coming in nicely.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RgzsUjUEK8U/Tl3bHa-VKMI/AAAAAAAAITI/qzwid1I6KsM/s720/DSCF7572.JPG

The extra power is putting a bit of strain on the centre bearing so I have ordered a heavy duty version that the racers use.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BuOcENee9hQ/Tl7CCjkbKYI/AAAAAAAAIUE/QiVFX19sJgg/s720/DSCF7587.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-joDQGFUswq0/Tl7B_YuqzuI/AAAAAAAAIT4/N8Ed2xpYc6U/s720/DSCF7584.JPG

The car is also impractically low so I am going to fit some longer springs on the front at the weekend.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QFOBME1rhI0/Tl7B3VcOjBI/AAAAAAAAITg/syisZnijpus/s720/DSCF7578.JPG

More updates to follow.....

marko14a

02-09-2011, 18:39

Fanfcukingtastic :smitten:

FullMetalGasket

02-09-2011, 19:29

Only just seen this - awesome work but a little part of me died inside when I saw you were fitting an SR :(
At least a CA could have still sounded good :p

Anyway - ignore my moan and get it finished :thumbs:

skinz180189

02-09-2011, 21:54

I could happily live with that ride height!

04-09-2011, 14:37

I don't care what anyone says: this truly is car p0rn! :smitten:

As much as that's sitting bad-assedly low, the sump may not thank you when you go over speed-bumps..! :wack: :smash:

Jez

07-09-2011, 22:57

Mapped this today - its brilliant. Felt great to drive and goes extremely well.

I'll let Jim fill in the details :)

Marsden

07-09-2011, 23:29

Awesome build/car :)

arry

08-09-2011, 08:46

Mapped this today - its brilliant. Felt great to drive and goes extremely well.

I'll let Jim fill in the details :)

You get all the fun :D

Alfaholical

08-09-2011, 09:44

Mapped this today - its brilliant. Felt great to drive and goes extremely well.

I'll let Jim fill in the details :)

Big thanks to Jez. Jez also did a fab job on the suspension alignment setting when I was there. It is indeed a great drive now.

Just need to sort the cooling issues. No probs blatting around but temps creep up on the motorway. And I need some heat insulation on the inside of the car as it is getting a bit toasty.

I'll do a full write up later...

- Jim

08-09-2011, 19:27

Have you got an undertray on it for the motorway-related driving (aerodynamic cooling aid)?

Alfaholical

09-09-2011, 00:27

Have you got an undertray on it for the motorway-related driving (aerodynamic cooling aid)?

Not a lot of room for an undertray but may try that if my ali cowling to funnel the air through my rad doesn't work.

- Jim

Clint

09-09-2011, 01:08

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QFOBME1rhI0/Tl7B3VcOjBI/AAAAAAAAITg/syisZnijpus/s720/DSCF7578.JPG

Am I the only one who would love to see a big dirty oil cooler hanging on the front of this??

Something like:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk266/clintfalco/kpgc10RA.jpg

Vez

09-09-2011, 07:35

Yes I think you are :rolleyes: Why spoil something so beautiful?!

Django67

09-09-2011, 07:43

Am I the only one who would love to see a big dirty oil cooler hanging on the front of this??

Get out. :whip:

arry

09-09-2011, 08:29

get out. :whip:

+1

Pete C

09-09-2011, 09:00

Am I the only one who would love to see a big dirty oil cooler hanging on the front of this??

:rolleyes: It's not a 70s Skyline.

EDIT: I'm at work so can't see the pic posted... if it's of a 70s Skyline then I probably look pretty silly :smash:

Fake Ben Taylor

09-09-2011, 09:20

Am I the only one who would love to see a big dirty oil cooler hanging on the front of this??

yes. yes you are

Easy007

09-09-2011, 09:30

Pete you look pretty silly :thumbs:

Daz

09-09-2011, 09:32

:rolleyes: It's not a 70s Skyline.

EDIT: I'm at work so can't see the pic posted... if it's of a 70s Skyline then I probably look pretty silly :smash:

Despite how cool the skyline looks the oil cooler ruins it anyway lol.

Pete C

09-09-2011, 09:55

Pete you look pretty silly :thumbs:

:D

Despite how cool the skyline looks the oil cooler ruins it anyway lol.

Racing Skylines of that era did have the oil cooler there but anyway...

...This Alfa is awesome, would love to see it in the metal sometime :)

Clint

09-09-2011, 10:20

+1

I'll get my coat...

Alfaholical

09-09-2011, 14:35

...This Alfa is awesome, would love to see it in the metal sometime :)

Thanks mate... I am pleased with how it's turned out. I'll have to get out and about before winter sets in :-)

- Jim

Algie

12-09-2011, 22:18

That's a great thread Jim,

Thoroughly enjoyed reading and the end result looks fantastic :nod:

Please tell me you'll bring it to some events next year :D

Alfaholical

15-09-2011, 00:45

That's a great thread Jim,

Thoroughly enjoyed reading and the end result looks fantastic :nod:

Please tell me you'll bring it to some events next year :D

I certainly hope to get out to a few events next year :)

Alfaholical

15-09-2011, 01:12

Well the car is all together now and mapped by Jez at Horsham Developments with the Nismo 555s that I got from Canada. While I was ther Jez also did a full suspension set up to my specs. I now have 17psi of boost and nearly three times the power of the car when it left the factoty :)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-uefXjDNibEE/TnE7YA4U6cI/AAAAAAAAIUo/AjUo3WMeU8c/s640/DSCF7595.JPG

Car certainly goes well, stops and handles too. A few issues cropped up mainly around temp issues. The engine temps were creeping up on the motorway at cruising speeds even though they were fine blasting around on the A & B roads. The issue is pretty obvious due to having a chuffing great intercooler directly infront of the rad. I have panneled around the rad forceing air to go throught the intercooler and radiator rather than around it but ultimately the issue is getting air in. I had pondered for quite a while about adding more venting into the front of the car and eventually I summoned up the courage to get the hole saw out.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OIFwaYvbhq0/TnE7b9yPieI/AAAAAAAAIU0/pt58m0nITPI/s640/DSCF7598.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Kw_R9GQPfdw/TnE7dGoLEgI/AAAAAAAAIU4/M2uH-d4EleI/s640/DSCF7599.JPG

and with the bumper back on

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Jtc7CvOoJuA/TnE7fDUwXQI/AAAAAAAAIVA/EdPy0Rc1XNg/s640/DSCF7601.JPG

The cutout is a normal feature of the original racers of the 60's and I have copied this.

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/attachments/giulia-gta-gta-1300-jr-gtam-1965-1975/74483d1186128268-gta-lower-grille-hole-dimensions-foto-livro.jpg

I am off to France in the car this weekend and want to make sure cooling isnt an issue. Went out for a blast today and temps are steady varying only between 84 and 86 deg even after some hard work so hopefully thats another issue sorted.

Now Jez about that bigger turbo......

- Jim

ANDY black s13

15-09-2011, 03:09

Just found this! great project sir! a bit weird all the 14 owners slating the sr almost like this was posted on a honda or evo forum?? great choice i think and i own CAs AND SRs,
This car aswell as the mad minor and jims anglia are my sort of cars,me and my next door neighbour are planning a mk2 escort sleeper with a CA or SR for the cheapest way of reliable power imo
old school cool with jap turbo power ftw :)

Chriscooke

15-09-2011, 08:12

Love this car. Those cut outs actually suit it really well :nod:

Pablo13

15-09-2011, 09:42

The cut outs are defo in keeping :nod:

Stick some black mesh in them too.

Daz

15-09-2011, 10:23

I might not of liked the idea of this at the start but I love it now :D.

I showed it to an Alfa owner here at work and I thought he'd not like it but he loved the idea of wacking a modern engine in a classic alfa :).

arry

15-09-2011, 12:11

The cut outs are defo in keeping :nod:

Stick some black mesh in them too.

Yeah definitely black mesh, hide the shiny intercooler. It looks really well mate, proper good job :nod:

Evilchap

15-09-2011, 12:16

:smitten: all over again - awesome car and project :D

Are you going to be heading to any events?

Tokyo_black

15-09-2011, 18:10

A real gem of a project, your hard work has paid off well done :thumbs: stunning end result.

Alfaholical

19-09-2011, 17:47

I certainly hope to before winter sets in. Just done 1200 miles run down to Angouleme and all went well. I need to find out what events are on. Could be taking it down to Somerset some time soon to visit family in Taunton so you may see the car in your (and Chriscooke's) neck of the woods.

- Jim

:smitten: all over again - awesome car and project :D

Are you going to be heading to any events?

Algie

19-09-2011, 17:53

If you do nothing else in 2012 Jim please bring it to the SXOC Weekender, I for one would absolutely love to see it there :nod::thumbs:

Evilchap

19-09-2011, 17:58

If you're in the local area, I am sure we could arrange a pub meet to all come and oggle your car, and have an excuse for a pub meal :)

Delboy

19-09-2011, 20:09

Such a superb project, excellent work.

One day I hope I will have the time/space/ability to put together a car of that quality :nod:

Hope I get to see it in the metal one day,

Chriscooke

19-09-2011, 20:19

I certainly hope to before winter sets in. Just done 1200 miles run down to Angouleme and all went well. I need to find out what events are on. Could be taking it down to Somerset some time soon to visit family in Taunton so you may see the car in your (and Chriscooke's) neck of the woods.

- Jim

Awesome :nod:

If you're in the local area, I am sure we could arrange a pub meet to all come and oggle your car, and have an excuse for a pub meal :)

Can arange something local if you fancy showing off your handywork :nod:

def

20-09-2011, 10:32

If you do nothing else in 2012 Jim please bring it to the SXOC Weekender, I for one would absolutely love to see it there :nod::thumbs:

This time 1000:nod:

Or if your ever near Reading

Alfaholical

20-09-2011, 12:49

Cool... Thanks Chris I'll pm you as and when my plans get more definate on the date... Do you have regular car club/pub nights?

As for local to me I guess it is the Monkey Puzzle up near Chessington?

- Jim

Awesome :nod:

Can arange something local if you fancy showing off your handywork :nod:

Alfaholical

20-09-2011, 13:02

If you do nothing else in 2012 Jim please bring it to the SXOC Weekender, I for one would absolutely love to see it there :nod::thumbs:

What's the date. I'll get it into my calendar.

- Jim

Chriscooke

20-09-2011, 13:14

We have a meet near Exeter on the first Monday of each month but I'd be more than happy to arrange another get together for whenever.

sprout

20-09-2011, 13:30

Only just read this - subscribed :) Good luck!

Algie

20-09-2011, 19:59

What's the date. I'll get it into my calendar.

- Jim

Date and venue are going to be set next month mate,

I'll be sure to lket you know, we're looking at June, July or August :nod:

Alfaholical

23-09-2011, 11:55

Date and venue are going to be set next month mate,

I'll be sure to lket you know, we're looking at June, July or August :nod:

Nice and precise then :)

Alfaholical

02-10-2011, 13:22

Had great fun on the Angouleme rally. A definate event to revisit.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gj8omOMBnU4/TobSIuEQ7tI/AAAAAAAAIVE/J5UgAWUQcUA/s720/Alfa%252520Angouleme.jpg

- Jim

arry

02-10-2011, 13:45

:notworthy

Jon

02-10-2011, 14:12

I need to see this car.

I'll bring a soft towel in case I drool on it :nod:

Algie

02-10-2011, 16:04

Where was that Jim? You couldn't have picked a better week for it!

Alfaholical

02-10-2011, 23:44

Hi Algie

That was "Le Circuit International des Remparts d`Angoulême" down in southwest France two weeks ago. Just got the photographs that I ordered from the Rallye. I quite like that one.

- Jim

Algie

03-10-2011, 00:22

It's a cracking shot :nod:

I thought from the name it was going to be one if your continental jaunts, I really want to know more! :D

hobbsy

03-10-2011, 02:24

Nice work Jim! :) Been extremely busy with work so only just finished reading this thread.

Are you going to take it on next years tour? I'll have to see if I can get back to join you in the Fury either way.

Haven't been on here for a while but nice to see some of the old hands cropping up on the thread like Jez H and Algie and others.

One thing that I never heard a mention of a few years ago was all this hate for the SR!

What's that about?

I owned both and whilst I have a bit of nostalgia for the CA (first turbo car I owned, remaps and boost upgrades brough much joy) the SR was the better lump for me.

And let's face it neither of them sound that great, but equally not that different to any other turbo 4 pot.

Get over it! :)

Alfaholical

03-10-2011, 09:55

Are you going to take it on next years tour? I'll have to see if I can get back to join you in the Fury either way.

If I can afford to keep both I will take the Fury on the Alps tour (it is far more suited to it). If not then I'll get some 048s or 888s on the Alfa and try not to be so far behind everyone. You must get back for the tour mate.

Cheers

Jim

Jon

03-10-2011, 10:31

Haven't been on here for a while

The strangest creatures come out in the middle of the night :nod: :D

hobbsy

10-10-2011, 14:14

If I can afford to keep both I will take the Fury on the Alps tour (it is far more suited to it). If not then I'll get some 048s or 888s on the Alfa and try not to be so far behind everyone. You must get back for the tour mate.

Cheers

Jim

I'll do my best - keep me on the email list when the discussions start up again soon.

It will certainly give your new brakes on the Alfa a good work out if you decide to take that instead of the Fury :)

Jon - another name/face from the past, are Matt_S, Jezz_S13, Docwra and Steve Carter still active (to name but a few)? I recently had my Evo 8 remapped by someone called AndyF but it wasn't the original Tefal-headed guy from on here...

Algie

10-10-2011, 15:00

Jim,

Club weekender is July 6th-9th 2012, I'd love to see the Alfa there :nod:

Alfaholical

10-10-2011, 18:23

Jim,

Club weekender is July 6th-9th 2012, I'd love to see the Alfa there :nod:

This is the same weekend as the Le Mans Classic but I have pencilled into my diary. I have spoken to my French friends about trackdays and no problem organising something if you are interested.

- Jim

14-10-2011, 19:08

I absolutely love the look of this & how well it seems to be working for you as a concept! :notworthy More action-shots please!! :D

Have you the cooling issues resolved yet?

are Matt_S, Jezz_S13, Docwra and Steve Carter still active (to name but a few)?
OT: :nod: Jezz & Doc are Committee.

Jonny Wilkinson

15-10-2011, 09:59

I absolutely love the look of this & how well it seems to be working for you as a concept! :notworthy More action-shots please!! :D

Have you the cooling issues resolved yet?

OT: :nod: Jezz & Doc are Committee.

Steve still pops up to correct me in Tech S13 every now and again :wack: and Matt S attended a HWH meet in the Summer...but in a Bimmer IIRC.

Alfaholical

17-10-2011, 10:50

Have you the cooling issues resolved yet?

I added the vents to the front of the car and put cowling around the rad and this improved matters hugely. It hasn't been warm enough to test properly but no issues on the motorway in current Autumnal temps. Trackdays may be a different matter though. The rad is the original Alfa one cut down and modified and one of my winter projects will be to replace with a nice high efficiency Aluminium one.

I am off down to Taunton and Exeter this weekend so another test coming.

- Jim

Ross S14

18-10-2011, 23:34

Just read this from start to finish - awesome work my friend. :clap: May see you in Taunton/Exeter this weekend. :thumbs:

Alfaholical

20-10-2011, 10:25

Just read this from start to finish - awesome work my friend. :clap: May see you in Taunton/Exeter this weekend. :thumbs:

Thanks Ross

I will be at the Exeter Kit car show on Sat from late morning and at the Worlds End pub near Taunton from 7pm

- Jim

20-10-2011, 23:48

I passed an "originale" model of your car on the motorway in Dublin here the other evening, it was in red, in near-mint condition (small ding in an odd place on the bootlid), & thought of yours! :cool: Was thinking "wouldn't it be great if there was an FMIC buried in behind that grill..." :D

Alfaholical

21-10-2011, 11:46

I keep seeing them for sale and think I might do another. Then I slap myself :D

I passed an "originale" model of your car on the motorway in Dublin here the other evening, it was in red, in near-mint condition (small ding in an odd place on the bootlid), & thought of yours! :cool: Was thinking "wouldn't it be great if there was an FMIC buried in behind that grill..." :D

EMENEAR

30-11-2011, 13:10

what a beautiful car. I love it :smitten::smitten::smitten::smitten:

Alfaholical

08-12-2011, 14:28

what a beautiful car. I love it :smitten::smitten::smitten::smitten:

Thanks EMENEAR :thumbs:

Car is off the road at the moment getting it's winter upgrades

- refitting the manifold after having the crack welded up
- a new custom aluminium radiator
- more soundproofing
- upgrading the LSD (If I have any money left)

Then finding someone to give it a new paint job.

- Jim

Ian_83

08-12-2011, 15:10

I've never posted on this thread, because im jelous, want. :(

unipsycho

08-12-2011, 17:37

Now there is superb car :smitten:

Alfisti21

17-01-2012, 09:32

Alfaholical

22-01-2012, 10:18

Hi Sir,

I'm interested about the fuel tank (same car) and contact Bryan about it, but he doesn't have any dimensions of it.
Do you still have the template you manufactured or any kind of dimensions of it in order to assist.

I really appreciate any kind of help..

Kind Regards
George

Hi George have sent you pm with some pics. Unfortunately I did not get the hardboard template back from Bryn just the actual tank.

Cheers

Jim

Alfaholical

22-01-2012, 10:21

My Car is in next months PPC magazine :)

Feb Issue out on 26 January 2012

- Jim

Dave270R

22-01-2012, 10:51

My Car is in next months PPC magazine :)

Feb Issue out on 26 January 2012

- Jim

Awesome. I'll keep an eye out for that. Well deserved feature :nod:

Chriscooke

22-01-2012, 12:48

My Car is in next months PPC magazine :)

Feb Issue out on 26 January 2012

- Jim

Noticed this in the preview from this months magazine, is it going to be on the cover? :D

Would you object to a few of your pictures being used on the sxoc facebook and twitter pages at all Jim?

Alfaholical

24-01-2012, 23:28

Noticed this in the preview from this months magazine, is it going to be on the cover? :D

Would you object to a few of your pictures being used on the sxoc facebook and twitter pages at all Jim?

No probs have sent you a pm

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-O2qy3F9ipts/TttAz7s97iI/AAAAAAAAIXU/1nMeyIevbOw/s720/IMG_4051.JPG?gl=GB

Cheers

Jim

Alfaholical

26-01-2012, 17:27

Got on the front cover

76446

Well chuffed :D

- Jim

sprout

26-01-2012, 17:35

That's awesome! Good work!

Chriscooke

26-01-2012, 17:48

Well done mate. Car's looking as fantastic as ever :)

26-01-2012, 17:52

Very well done to you fella! :)

Vigilant Teste

27-01-2012, 15:49

:clap: Brilliant news dude. :thumbs:

Alfaholical

27-01-2012, 18:31

Thanks for the kind words.

- Jim

Jonny Wilkinson

28-01-2012, 11:14

It was the Nissan 200SX owners that seem the most horrified at this cross-pollination of the four-cylinder seed with phrases such as 'you will burn in the fiery pits of hell my man' cropping up in the internet discussion.

:clap: :rolleyes:

You can stick your SR where you like as far as I'm concerned. :(

Chriscooke

30-01-2012, 20:47

you will burn in the fiery pits of hell my man

Loving the fact that Kierans quote made it in to the ppc article :D

Kieran_e1

30-01-2012, 20:51

Loving the fact that Kierans quote made it in to the ppc article :D

not read the ppc article.

Chriscooke

30-01-2012, 20:56

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd253/chriscooke200sx/e5cd6ce5.jpg

:D

Kieran_e1

30-01-2012, 20:59

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd253/chriscooke200sx/e5cd6ce5.jpg

:D

lol ****ing awesome¬¬

marko14a

30-01-2012, 21:00

Ha! Excellent!

Alfaholical

01-02-2012, 11:31

"relatively lightheartedly" :D

- Jim

Chriscooke

01-02-2012, 20:34

Lolz :D

This car is now featured on the SXOC front page with a brief synopsis of this thread :)

Alfaholical

03-02-2012, 11:12

Thanks Chris. I had loads of help from the guys on SXOC.:sxoc:

m.d.

03-02-2012, 17:46

:clap: :rolleyes:

You can stick your SR where you like as far as I'm concerned. :(

I may have missed something but are you genuinely pissey that he has an SR in an alpha?

This car is awesome. It's got the looks. And the performance. Shame the sr is not that good in the noise department but it's still a fecking good engine. I've always wanted a classic car and then put a modern engine in it like this. Win win as far as I'm concerned. Well done dude on the feature. I just got the mag yesterday.

Kieran_e1

03-02-2012, 17:59

"relatively lightheartedly" :D

- Jim
who was being lighthearted? the fiery pits await you!!! lol.

seriously nice car though. would be good to see it in the flesh sometime.

Kieran_e1

03-02-2012, 18:01

I may have missed something but are you genuinely pissey that he has an SR in an alpha?

This car is awesome. It's got the looks. And the performance. Shame the sr is not that good in the noise department but it's still a fecking good engine. I've always wanted a classic car and then put a modern engine in it like this. Win win as far as I'm concerned. Well done dude on the feature. I just got the mag yesterday.

i am yes ( in a semi serious sort of way )

the heart of an alfa is the engine. it's what gives it it's soul and the sr20 has absolutely zero of that imho. it sounds like a sewing machine on crack and for me detracts a little.

the car is awesome but i would rather see an alfa v6 or i4 in there than the sr.

all personal choice and opinion

m.d.

03-02-2012, 18:27

i am yes ( in a semi serious sort of way )

the heart of an alfa is the engine. it's what gives it it's soul and the sr20 has absolutely zero of that imho. it sounds like a sewing machine on crack and for me detracts a little.

the car is awesome but i would rather see an alfa v6 or i4 in there than the sr.

all personal choice and opinion

Fair enough.
Personally can't see the issue even slightly. but as you say it's personal opinion.

Mike s14a

10-03-2012, 19:20

Alfaholical

13-03-2012, 21:25

im not a fan of alfas, or fiats or anything italian apart from their supercars but omg this thread is epic, anymore updates or pics of the engine bay and exterior of the car? keep up the good work, i love reading something different which this certainly is

Engine bay

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QgvfXdPz40M/T0owafgKupI/AAAAAAAAIyc/IkiFayEkAgE/s720/Laurens%2520Parsons%2520Photography-104.jpg

Interior

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lZ_ihj63RDY/T0oxOQmoiGI/AAAAAAAAI34/rQ6j3EI1dTo/s512/Laurens%2520Parsons%2520Photography-130.jpg

One of my fave pics

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PgIiag-q-vM/T0ovKUenofI/AAAAAAAAIr8/oWbVFznnLhs/s720/Laurens%2520Parsons%2520Photography-9.jpg

Not drifting like you guys but hanging it out all the same :)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wZ2kPSbQqis/T0ozu8zEogI/AAAAAAAAI74/MBQaYoTkmIk/s720/Laurens%2520Parsons%2520Photography-112.jpg

- Jim

unipsycho

13-03-2012, 22:11

Awesome! Loved this project.

sgt_raffie

01-04-2012, 22:26

Wow
Amazing project...Keep us updated please.
Any chance You have some street or track videos? Would love to see it rolling.

turboflash

08-04-2012, 20:08

Just gone through this from page one and the work that has gone into this to keep the aesthetics as beautiful as when it left the Alfa factory all the years ago is amazing but you have also chosen a jap-engine with a good reliabilty and tuning background so by putting the two together is pure genius :notworthy

TBH I read about this car in PPC mag as Im a subscriber as they symbolise my thoughts in the way of tuning but just thought Id search it and here you are.

It is nice to see other photos of the build and prep that went into her and that the build isnt over ( is it ever going to be?)

Congratulations on creating such a car :clap:

Alfaholical

11-04-2012, 15:09

Thanks mate. Car has still plenty of development left to get to exactly what I want. Upgraded the rad which now performs well and doesnt leak.

Got a squeaky centre bearing on the prop to sort but fed up with crawling under the car so will try and borrow a ramp at the weekend. The Bosch fuel pump is getting on my nerves as it is so loud, so will try some sound insulation. The big bill will be when I get it resprayed. It looks okay in photos but the paint is a multitude of colours and there are a few chips, scratches and minor dings to sort.

- Jim

Just gone through this from page one and the work that has gone into this to keep the aesthetics as beautiful as when it left the Alfa factory all the years ago is amazing but you have also chosen a jap-engine with a good reliabilty and tuning background so by putting the two together is pure genius :notworthy

TBH I read about this car in PPC mag as Im a subscriber as they symbolise my thoughts in the way of tuning but just thought Id search it and here you are.

It is nice to see other photos of the build and prep that went into her and that the build isnt over ( is it ever going to be?)

Congratulations on creating such a car :clap: