My 240Z

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Guys

Thought I may as well start a project thread on my new 240Z.

After longing for one over the past decade or so, I managed to find one at the right price, and in the right condition for me to "do it how I want it".

I collected the car on Saturday 19th from Thirsk (n Yorkshire). The car had been dry stored for the last 10 years in a container on a farm. The guy I bought the car of used to drive it, until he decided to restore the car. He stripped it down but didn't continue :( anyhow my gain :)

Pics:-

Car back at DB-Power's head quarters:-

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG0573.jpg
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Before cleaning:-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG0560.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG0561.jpg
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After cleaning:-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG0566.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG0567.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG0568.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG0570.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG0571.jpg
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Plans:-

Remove all rust
Weld up holes
Possibly fit 200SX rear subframe for IRS
200SX front subframe
Styling :)

The whale tail will be hitting the bin, rest assured there :)

Will update over time :)

[piman2k]

Looks great mate, I'm also (like many folks here) a huge fan of these cars. That's a lot of rust. Time for a dip? Expensive, but will pay dividends in the long run if your rails aren't too gone :D

[SX_BIG]

WANT WANT WANT!! cant wait to see this progress mate!

[skinz180189]

Looks like it's going to take up a fair bit of your time. Good luck with it Dan.

Oh, and the wheels are awesome.

[Daz]

The whale tail will be hitting the bin, rest assured there :)

Thank christ for that lol. That was going to be my first question.

Looking forward to this dan :D

[Algie]

Looks awesome mate,

Can't wait to see what you're going to do with her :D

[SWEBB]

absolutley love the 240z one of my favourite cars, one of my neighbours used to have one when i was about 8 and loved it ever since. Can't wait to see this thing coming along. Good luck with it:thumbs:

[sprout]

That's a huge pile of (rusty) awesome :D Good luck, will be watching this with a bib.

[Dan@DB-Power]

too be fair, there isn't as much rust as the pics seem to show, most of the floor is actually good metal which is rust coloured :wack:

[pj9ar]

Cool!!!!! looking forward to watching this.

[NismoSpirit]

Love these cars, will always want one! whats your plans engine wise Dan. You staying with the L24 or are you gunna suup it up with a modern lump?

[Tricky-Ricky]

Yum!:thumbs: nasty bit of tin worm on the tailgate but nothing a bit of cut n shut won't cure, is that a non std front? it still says to me LS1, bugger the bhp think of the torque:whip:

[Fake Ben Taylor]

front looks fibreglass?

[Ken]

Subscribing:)

[Evilchap]

You have your work seriously cut out there :(

Good luck, shout if I can help with anything :)

[Damo]

saw this today looks mint and its in better condition that what my corolla was :wack:

Good luck with the work ahead bud

[JC]

question is,will it get finished?..................... :p :D

[gonzomagic]

Bit of T cut an that will be the shiz:wack:

Ok, more petrol, space_weazle treatment.

And deffo finish this one.

[markcro]

Well done Dan! Beautiful car! Can't wait to see her finished. A gut that I know spent a year looking for a GT6 and happened upon a 240Z and was instantly hooked and bought that instead. Always loved them.

[Aj82]

This should be interesting. Looking forward to this Dan.


Cheers Aj

[jod]

This will be awesome as long as you don't punt it half way though the project :wack:

[Quail]

This is gonna be awesome :D

[Ferris]

A 260 but good for a bit of inspiration.:)

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh183/datsun-jay/260z/260z016.jpg

[m.d.]

fit the v10 to that bad boy !!!!

[arry]

You have to promise to finish this project :nod:

[Con2K]

A 260 but good for a bit of inspiration.:)

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh183/datsun-jay/260z/260z016.jpg


Right click - Save As..

Love that!!

What engine is in the OP's car? Any pics of it?

[Teggers]

subscribing... to the new Yellow Peril :D

:thumbs:

[Mark]

subscribing... to the new Yellow Peril :D

:thumbs:

Bwahahahaha :D

Dan do you have polystyrene and cardboard for this to reach its maximum potential :wack:

[Vez]

I can donate an HKS Frontera Intercooler :wack:

[pdh 14a]

:eek: Rusty!!! Good luck with it though,if anyone can do it then your the man! :thumbs:

[Pablo13]

There is going to be a fair bit of work involved, but it'll be worth it :nod:

Are those wheels ssr mesh? Are you keeping them?

[SidewaysThough]

Dan, i have a man who restores these if you need any bits ;)

[sxbaz]

There is going to be a fair bit of work involved, but it'll be worth it :nod:

Are those wheels ssr mesh? Are you keeping them?

u scavenger! let me guess, they'll look good on ur crx?

[Dan@DB-Power]

Wheels will be up for grabs, not sure on the make of them. I know they are JDM though :D

Might be a bit wide for the CRX though, 245 tyres on the back

Dan :thumbs:

[Dan@DB-Power]

Update.

Removed more rust and more rust and even more rust :wack:

Anyhow doors have been taken off, boot will be removed, engine, gearbox, bonnet, and then windscreen :)

Once they are all off I'm going to build a rotisserie and get the car shot blasted :nod:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG0607.jpg
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Dan :thumbs:

[Evilchap]

How went the blastic enquiries?

[Dan@DB-Power]

How went the blastic enquiries?

found a local guy who used to rent my unit before me :wack:

Anyhow he has a full shot blasting unit, so just waiting on a price :)

[Evilchap]

Awesome :D

[Evilchap]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Datsun-240-Z-Convertible-Collectors-Dream-1972-/290547576356?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43a5fc2e24

Dont do it... but food for thought!

[dukey]

you still got that viper engine around?

[arry]

you still got that viper engine around?

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=491451

[Dan@DB-Power]

not much of an update but I now own a RB30 :nod:

Should I, shouldn't I??? :wack:

[samcash88]

I wouldn't if it was me mate, I think the route you've decided on is by far the best for what you want the car to be!

Still interesting to imagine it though...

[ex-ctr]

do not bead blast or shot blast it as it can kill your pannels as it generates heat, ask BREN about what it did to some of his pannels, soda blasting though more expensive is so much better:nod:

[Dan@DB-Power]

do not bead blast or shot blast it as it can kill your pannels as it generates heat, ask BREN about what it did to some of his pannels, soda blasting though more expensive is so much better:nod:

Yeah have heard about soda blasting.

I may do it myself, if that's the case I'll buy a load of baking soda :D

[keggy]

frost sell a soda blasting kit

[Dan@DB-Power]

Update,

Just had the windscreen and rear window removed :)

Off to Blasters this week or early next week to be cleaned :)

Then the action begins :nod:

[Daz]

Nice one Dan. Does the shell need much work?

[MEL]

Sweeeeeeeeet, cant wait to see some proper progress on this

Lets hope you have some good metal left

[JulesS14200]

Hurry up!

[Dan@DB-Power]

Nice one Dan. Does the shell need much work?

shouldn't do but won't know til I see what's left :wack:


Sweeeeeeeeet, cant wait to see some proper progress on this

Lets hope you have some good metal left

:fingerscrossed:


Hurry up!

patience my brother from a different mother.

[Actual_Ben_Taylor]

Has this been blasted yet or what?

[Channie]

I win mine has more rust than yours :p

[Jonny_T]

Excellent project, can't wait to see how this goes.

All the best with it Dan :thumbs:

[DREAD13]

Dan! Please finish this one:D

:wave:

[Dan@DB-Power]

not yet, was meant to have been picked up yesterday :( will try for early next week :)

I will definitively be finishing this one :)

[akiragost]

yea how's it going dan? i'm expecting great things from this!

[Dan@DB-Power]

Well it's back outside ready for collection :)

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=73969&stc=1&d=1313405984
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Removed the engine:-
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=73970&stc=1&d=1313405984

I also took that horrid bootlid/spoiler off :nod:

[Channie]

Is that after sand blasting??? What did they sand blast :confused:

Fork lift truck to move the engine... me and crouchy kept it old school like the car and used bits of wood :wack:

[MEL]

Did the blasters actually do anything :confused:

Thank god you've got rid of that spoiler :nod:

Not thinking about keeping the original engine and tuning that?

[clarity]

Thats not been blasted surely?

[Actual_Ben_Taylor]

Thats not been blasted surely?

As I read it, the car is back outside ready to be collected and taken to the blasters...

[clarity]

Thats what I thought :)

[Dan@DB-Power]

you lot :rolleyes:

it's not been to the blasters yet :no: it's awaiting collection :)

I'm basically waiting for them to have space for it :)

[Channie]

As I read it, the car is back outside ready to be collected and taken to the blasters...

Ahh I read it was done and ready to be collected :wack:


They blasting the whole car Dan?

[Dan@DB-Power]

They are blasting the floor and chassis, not the bodywork

[Dgr]

this could be amazing, The v10 would never work, so a rb30 will have to do :D looks good so far though buddy.

[gonzomagic]

I say RB30:nod:

[Dan@DB-Power]

nah changing direction quicker than ricocheting bullet.

Nissan V8 me thinks. Eyeing up the VH45DE and the VK56DE. VK56DE is the preference :nod:

[gonzomagic]

nah changing direction quicker than ricocheting bullet.

Nissan V8 me thinks. Eyeing up the VH45DE and the VK56DE. VK56DE is the preference :nod:

Man, u worse then a girl.

Make ya mind up. lol

Well RB30 is a cheaper option. Seeing its sitting with you already. Turbo powers.

But can understand the v8 wants, v8 sounds nom nom.

[big_mac]

think the RB30 has been sold gonzo, i seem to remember a for sale thread for it

[gonzomagic]

think the RB30 has been sold gonzo, i seem to remember a for sale thread for it

In that case v8 it is then:wack:

[daz_s13]

keep it simple: SR20. You know them well, they are light and can make more than enough power. And with a DECENT exhaust (apex'i etc) they dont sound as bad as people make out. You could have it on the road alot quicker, cheaper and easier that way!

[m.d.]

Just Lobb an sr20 in it and you have a better chance of finishing the car if there are less things to worry about. The cost of the v8s and rb30s etc all make it a very expensive build.

[samcash88]

+1 for the sr20 all day long!!

[59bhp]

L28 or sr20ve

[piman2k]

Just Lobb an sr20 in it and you have a better chance of finishing the car if there are less things to worry about. The cost of the v8s and rb30s etc all make it a very expensive build.I have to say, I 100% share the same thoughts. Without being mean Dan, I can only remember seeing your kit car run. Your other projects haven't made it to fruition. Do something simple in this, make it work :)

[Django67]

+1 for the sr20 all day long!!

+2

I know it's not a 6, but somehow the SR20 seems more in keeping with the nature of the car being a relatively small inline engine. The 240Z was never meant to be a yank-style muscle car, so a V8 just seems wrong.

[JulesS14200]

V8

[Daz]

Anything :wack:

[MEL]

Keep the l28 and tune that or drop in an rb25/26, infact any straight 6 will do the job

You know you can't make a z sound as bad as an sr - you will be bum sexed by Daz and channie for the rest of your life if you do that :nod:

[JulesS14200]

Buy my RB26!

Or be a man and stick a meaty V8 in!

[Daz]

A straight 6 is the only option really.

Like Mel says, if you fit an SR then me & channie will butt rape you.

I just want to see this one get close to being finished.

[Pablo13]

I think you should compare weights of all possible engines and try and use one that will give nearest 50/50 balance with the chassis.

Then compare sounds and come to some kind of compromise :)

Believe with the standard engine its 50/50 from factory, 1068kg so keeping the weight of engine similar as possible will be best for handling :nod:

[Dan@DB-Power]

That'll be the SR, would be very close to 50/50

I know, I'll get the car ready for an engine and then decide :D

[JulesS14200]

Who cares about 50/50 handling zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:sleep:

It needs to have nice noise whenever you put your foot down not sound like a wet fart SR :whip:

[Daz]

Who cares about 50/50 handling zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:sleep:

It needs to have nice noise whenever you put your foot down not sound like a wet fart SR :whip:

Jules speaks the truth :nod:

[Lex.]

I think a straight 6 will be more in keeping with its roots, why not use an l28?

[Dan@DB-Power]

too old and not enough power :no:

[Lex.]

Is the noie of a 6 on ITB's not enough :p

RB it is then :D

[m.d.]

Don't get me wrong I hate the SR but as dan never finishes any project it would be nice to make it simple enough to just fit and get runing.
No offence dan bit you have to see our reservations.

[Lex.]

^^^^ Fitting any engine into any car that it wasnt originally intended for is hard work, at least with the rb or v8, they are common conversions

[Dan@DB-Power]

guys guys guys, calm down :)

This project will get done :) Engine choice can go on the back burner as there is a lot of welding etc first :)

[Actual_Ben_Taylor]

Saw a lovely one of these on Saturday at Mclaren :)

It had quite a lot of Arizona Z Cars bits on it and an L-series motor on Solex carbs... Looked nice, I wanted to buy it :)

[zeppelin101]

FWIW... a VK56 would makes a brutal mess.

[Delboy]

Anything :wack:

I lol'd :D


guys guys guys, calm down :)

This project will get done :)

You've set expectations now Dan, you realise if it's not finished you will never hear the end of it :p

Engine wise, I couldn't care less. It's your car do what you like :thumbs:

If it was mine I'd be keeping an NA in line six of some description, but that's just me. Do what you want and can make work :)

[Dan@DB-Power]

Update, it's at the shot blasters.

I borrowed a mates recovery truck and loaded it up :)

Anyhow end of the week and I'll know more :)
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=74105&stc=1&d=1314103072

[voodoo_melon]

I hope you'll be changing the wheels as well as the engine :D

[30PSI]

Gents.

I had a look at this yesterday. It's pretty rusty. I had a nose around it and in traditional Datsun style I had a few tugs at it underneath and ripped a few bits of the car off underneath and I ended up with a pile of rust in my face.

The welding work needed on this has to take place before anything and it's gonna be a fair old bit of work. It's going to the most time consuming bit of the project.

Engine choices can take place another day.

[Actual_Ben_Taylor]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

By the time the floors, sills, etc. have been replaced fossil fuels will be a distant memory :wack:

[Daz]

Rust is lighter than carbon fibre :nod:

[Mark]

I had a nose around it and in traditional Datsun style I had a few tugs

You strange strange man :wack:

[MEL]

You strange strange man :wack:

You've met martin before haven't you? :wack:

[Channie]

Nissan V8 me thinks. Eyeing up the VH45DE and the VK56DE. VK56DE is the preference :nod:

VH45DE is what I'm leaning towards :nod: Although straight 6's do fit soooooo well in there :nod: Its a tough call :( An L28 with the LD crank would be epic... then make a twin turbo setup :D

[frisbee]

M3 engine in a TR6, not necessarily suggesting this engine but some inspirational pics.

link (http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/2559110082.html)

[Channie]

How much was left then :D

[Dan@DB-Power]

not got it back yet, due to bad whether they are holding off the sand blasting for a couple of days :(

[Daz]

I've got a couple of photo's of a 260Z and a 240Z engine bay that you might like. Will post them at the weekend.

[Dan@DB-Power]

:cool: :D

[gonzomagic]

Found this, you read it Dan? is a good read of a Rb26 240z:smitten::smitten::smitten:

Can send it to you, as it was going in the bin?

[Treacle]

Any progress on this? Have always wanted to own one and do a full conversion to skyline running gear, on the look out for one as a long term project myself!

[Dan@DB-Power]

Found this, you read it Dan? is a good read of a Rb26 240z:smitten::smitten::smitten:

Can send it to you, as it was going in the bin?

Pretty sure I have that one, will check though :)

Dan :thumbs:


Any progress on this? Have always wanted to own one and do a full conversion to skyline running gear, on the look out for one as a long term project myself!

Still at the sand blasters. It's partially my fault they are taking their time. Mainly I have too much shite in my unit and not enough room for this car at the moment. Should be ready for it this week though :)

Dan :thumbs:

[reco2k]

Another engine to put thought to is the 1Uzfe been done a couple of times but the later VVTi engines can see good power with little effort and engines are bullet proof

[Dan@DB-Power]

pictures :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG1256.jpg

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Pretty happy with the result, not that many holes and more metal than rust :D

[Actual_Ben_Taylor]

More metal than I was expecting, although it looks like not much of it is original Datsun!

[Evilchap]

Blimey, 1 or 2 patches going on there! Not looking too bad there Dan :)

[Fake Ben Taylor]

looooooots of patches :wack:

i was expecting head sized holes everywhere - youve done well there!

[Channie]

Nice Dan! :thumbs:

Although I do win 'Who has the rustiest 240z' :D

Its good to see what the floors are meant to look like.... and the offside chassis leg :wack:

[30PSI]

Any pics of underneath?

Looks like a good way of getting cracking with the welding, grinding it all back takes forever and you get proper dirty doing it too.

[Pablo13]

Not to bad at all, better than I was expecting :thumbs:

[Teggers]

Not too bad - looks like someone did most of the patching for you!

[Dan@DB-Power]

Yeah its been patched a few times, hoping there isnt any rust behind the patches.

Underneath is getting done tomorrow :-)

[Teggers]

Bit of inspiration for you, Dan :thumbs:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6089/6161778628_85f27b753c_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6075/6161242151_3b24a839e7_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6165/6161777246_28336a001e_b.jpg

A few too many wires and hoses around the engine bay for me though - clean it veedub stylee and it would look 100% better (not saying it doesn't look good like this anyway!!)

Thats all I could find of it though...

[Dan@DB-Power]

Update :)

Anyhow I have the Z back :D

So tonight me, Paul_S13 and Rads hoovered all the sand blasting media out, this took ages :(

We then sprayed the inside with Zinc 182 Primer, this will keep the rust away until the welding is done and then the proper paint can go on :)

Next on the list is the Zinc primer the underneath of the car :)

Pics, enjoy:-

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG1274.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG1273.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG1272.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG1271.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG1270.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG1269.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG1268.jpg

Dan :thumbs:

[Evilchap]

Blimey, even sand blasting couldn't get rid of all of the yellow!

Getting everything in 1 colour makes a huge difference to how it looks, not bad at all! Looking forward to seeing this in the metal :)

[Dan@DB-Power]

not much of an update yet, but will be on it's side tonight so I can start welding :D

[Dan@DB-Power]

onto side plan completed :D with the help from Rads S13, Paul_S13 and 4 tyres and 2 alloys :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG1324.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG1326.jpg

Fun parts:-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG1327.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG1328.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/dans13/IMAG1329.jpg

:D

[pegliobagli]

Look like a fun project to get stuck into buddy! Can't wait to see this finished!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gonna be epic,slowly but surely defo the way to go! Look forward to the next update mate

[Scatamonky]

Okay Dan - no updates since October!!! Any progress? Really interested in this build. :)

[muddle84]

Okay Dan - no updates since October!!! Any progress? Really interested in this build. :)

Yeah what he said!!!!! :D

[MKS]

I love these and wish I had the spare cash to pick one up and do.. but sadly ones rusting to little bits are going for over 2k at the moment.. anyway looks like you go a great little project on your hands cant wait to see it finished.

[Clint]

6 months and no updates. I'm not feeling especially hopeful about this project.

Please prove me wrong Dan!