View Full Version : Making SXOC Better - Not a member! How Come?
Firstly on behalf of all the staff at the SXOC we would firstly like to thank you for being part of the Forum and showing interest in the club.
The purpose of this thread is to get the views of people who have previously been members or have never been members with a view to understanding what more we can do to make the SXOC more inviting to both new and existing forum users.
Just to give you a reminder of some member benefits
Throughout 2010 we have been able to field some great events both on a national and local level.
Some of the national highlights of 2010 have been
The weekender:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=465715
JAE
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=426458
Crail drift day
http://vimeo.com/17938277
and
lemans and nurburgring trips all of which are on the agenda for 2011!!!!
on top of these great events members get access to a wide and varied range of discounts and deals through traders and product providers including insurance discounts up to 20%!!!!!!!
local events are also subsidised for members to again make your yearly subscription easy to make excellent value for money over all the different area's!!
most area's also have a monthly meet where you can meet up and have a bit of banter
We, the staff, have been looking at different ways to do improve the club but we feel that we would like to hear the views of people who have previously had the benefit of membership but no lnnger choose to renew or people who have never taken up membership
Some generic reasons have been placed in the poll above and if your reason is not covered then please feel free to add a comment as all feedback is welcome!! The poll is also multi choice incase there is more than one reason.
superclarkey
23-12-2010, 09:57
Defo too strict, it's like fight club lol
I did try to renew my membership but after pm'ing a few people that were in charge of this area and got no replys, gave up, guessed you didn't want my money's :-)
mr_reepers13
23-12-2010, 10:04
i was a member back in 2005 when i owened a s13... then i sold that in 06 and this year im back in a 180..
i have not renewed because -
1. im lazy and cant be ar5ed too.. (if im being honest)
2. i cant see a huge point in doing so right now as before i never really benefited from being a member, so i cant see me gaining by doing so now. (for what i use the forum for i can do as a non member)
you guys do however do a top jop job ;)
i was a member but decided not to renew in october, mainly because i rarely went to club events which was usually because people may convoy up on a friday etc or early saturday to get setup and having work and owning a s13 usually means i cant make it, or if i went to a show id go outside of the club so not save any money but atleast be more flexible with arrival times etc.
the other big thing for me is all the "discounts", where phoning for either insurance or parts id get told the price, then ask "shouldn't i get club discount?" and the response every time would be "yeah, that included the discount" - which basically means im not getting jackshit.
I was a member when I used to have a 200sx
However having sold the 200sx I no longer benefit from paying £20 to just get access to the members area. And as much as I cant leave the forum due to addiction and loving most people on the site, the moralistic view of paying £20 just to pay for my bandwidth usage isnt enough to prize open my wallet.
Perhaps if there was a 2 tier membership ... so £5 for a :ghey: all area access to the forum and £20 for full membership to allow you to get available discounts that would work ? ...... OR it would have the opposite effect and stop people paying the £20
So basically for me the SXOC is aon online social board, thats all I use it for, hence £20 membership doesnt benifit me in anyway ..... if itws anyhelp though I do feel slightly guilty for using lots of bandwidth and not paying anything
Edit: ... I think having a 2 tier approach could work ... but you would have to restrict more areas to non-paying guests, maybe only 4 posts a day or cant post in the for sale section ... or allow them access to the technical section but stop them posting in the sh1te areas untill they cough up a £5, social membership fee ???? ... Still keeping the members area and club discounts for full members
Evilchap
23-12-2010, 10:26
I get people to drop me a PM to prove membership status in order to get club discounts, as that's the idea of them :)
I sort of see the 'point' is to help pay for hosting, the costs of which must be heading towards significant. Without these contributions all the free advice would not be here, as the club wouldn't function :(
Sideways14a
23-12-2010, 10:29
2 tier membership would stop a huge number of folk from paying the 20quid imho.
2 tier membership would stop a huge number of folk from paying the 20quid imho.
Yeah, this is what I thought would happen ...... so you need to make the board less accessible to guests to get them to pay £5 ... but keep the priveledges the same for full members.
So keep it as it is now .... but restrict non-200 and other social areas to guests, so if you want to access them you need to pay for 1/2 membership.
Thatway guests can still get technical info, but cant chat about moisturrizer or take the piss out of Pieman
Kieran_e1
23-12-2010, 10:34
renewal is £17 quid not £20.
This thread is for non members. Can i ask members not to post in this thread please.
renewal is £17 quid not £20..
Thats still a lot to pay though for just access to the members area, if you dont own a 200sx, dont go to the socials and dont benifit from the discounts
Kieran_e1
23-12-2010, 10:47
Thats still a lot to pay though for just access to the members area, if you dont own a 200sx, dont go to the socials and dont benifit from the discounts
i agree with what you are saying johnny. paying 17 quid to use the forum alone isn't worth it.
to get the benefit of membership you really need to get involved . that said your point is noted:thumbs:
keep em coming guys
ricky3510
23-12-2010, 10:50
I joined up in my first year of S13 ownership because i wanted to get insurance discounts. I got naff all from the insurance, they wouldn't even touch me so when renewal came round and i didn't have the money for it at the time i never really bothered/saw the point. £17 just to read the members section didn't seem worth it.
paying 17 quid to use the forum alone isn't worth it.
to get the benefit of membership you really need to get involved . that said your point is noted:thumbs:
keep em coming guys
This is like saying i dont give money for charity because i dont get benefit of it :( Do you really need benefits to give a reward to a good and helpfull club :confused:
I`m a member since i joined in 2004 and i dont get benefits from it either because i life in Belgium, but i still renew my membership every year.
This is like saying i dont give money for charity because i dont get benefit of it :( Do you really need benefits to give a reward to a good and helpfull club :confused:
:D .. its a world apart from a charity .... if I was walking down the street and some one came up up to me and shook a bucket at me asking to donate to a good cause "we are helping owners of Subaru Imprezzas by providing them with info on what turbo to upgrade to" .... I'd tell them to fcuk off :D
Nice thought though
Have been a member before, liked it, think the community on here (particularly the longer serving folk) is second to none but signing up isn't very quick or convenient else I'd have done it loads of times - it really should be automated, not done by a human when they get round to it - and there isn't really very significant perceived value in return unless things have changed, in which case the marketing needs to be much better.
As a non member I still get the benefits of the community and advice without paying money which is by far the most this place has to offer. I realise my 'honour rating' is probably lowered as a result, but this is why more people don't sign up and you can always repay the club by contributing advice as you learn it (and keeping hold of people that do that is something that this place manages to do very well over nearly every other car forum I've ever known)
Same reason as the others posting, I've not owned an SX for at least four years and don't go to the socials. That said, I do read and use the forum every day so should pay up really !
If I had a car, I'd probably think more about signing up and joining in more.
mr_reepers13
23-12-2010, 12:44
i have found that alot of forums nowadays are charging for membership and this allows people to use the "forsale sections" - to me its a sneaky way of making money but it does work..
i whoever think its stupid and i couldnt care less who ibought from - member or not..
so please sxoc dont go down this route :p
to me its a sneaky way of making money but it does work..
And i think its sneeky advertising a car thats not a S body in your sig so have removed it :p
You want the members benefits then you have to pay for them :thumbs:
ricky3510
23-12-2010, 12:51
And i think its sneeky advertising a car thats not a S body in your sig so have removed it :p
You want the members benefits then you have to pay for them :thumbs:
LOL :whip:
I live in Finland so I really haven't seen it necesery to join the club. I know I could join as there are members also outside UK.
mr_reepers13
23-12-2010, 12:58
And i think its sneeky advertising a car thats not a S body in your sig so have removed it :p
You want the members benefits then you have to pay for them :thumbs:
ok how about now in my sig - not advertising so surely thats legal?!
also i dont understand your point re pay for the benefits? SXOC dont charge to use the for sale sections apart from "other cars".... or is that what you are implying?
Kieran_e1
23-12-2010, 13:00
ok how about now in my sig - not advertising so surely thats legal?!
also i dont understand your point re pay for the benefits? SXOC dont charge to use the for sale sections apart from "other cars".... or is that what you are implying?
guest can buy and sell 200's as that's of benefit to them and the club ( new members etc etc.
guests can buy and sell parts for 200's for the same reason
guests are not allowed to sell non 200's as it offers no real benefit to the club members.
as for your sig. :smash:
mr_reepers13
23-12-2010, 13:07
guest can buy and sell 200's as that's of benefit to them and the club ( new members etc etc.
guests can buy and sell parts for 200's for the same reason
guests are not allowed to sell non 200's as it offers no real benefit to the club members.
as for your sig. :smash:
lol fair enough - removed :sxoc::sxoc:
yeh what i said in my earlier post was i like the fact non members dont have to pay to use the parts/car sales (sx's)..
that is a great attraction to the forum but if you changed that like other forums to make ££££ then thats when it may put folks off...
i havnt renewed mainly due ot the fact i havent been arsed, and every time i go ti, the money could be better spent.
the local community isnt the best, its not Fliks fault, but there is little interest from Dorset and Hants people, we used ot have a good monthly meet and organised events, but some of the familar faces have gone/lost interest. i would be prepared to go to more events locally, and would pay for membership if there was more events i could get sub'd on, but there isnt any. Flik (rightly so) will say there wil lbe no/little interest and the Dorset and hants people will say there are no events being planned, how can you plan and event when you know no one will show interest in the thread, let alone actually come.
i echo SXbas's point on the trader discounts, i had only used a couple of traders and was told "that is the member's price" or "this isnt included as i make no proffit on it anyway, my prices are cheap" so i shopped else where, and found that on some parts i could get it cheaper than a trader on here even with my suposed members discount.
maybe traders could put on their threads on here with prices for stuff show the members price and non-members prices, and you have no real guage of the prices.
Note to Staff: do you actually monitor the traders discounts or do you take their word for it?, do you get a report back seeing how much money was spent by members and what sort of discount they received?
as this "could" constitute as false advertising, you say a discount will be had, (not giving an actualy %age) and the traders not giving it, or not perceiving giving it.
on the insurance, i had found that they are more expensive with the discount than other insurance companies with out any discount.
the only REAL discount i ever saw was on the SXOC branded merchandise,
since becomming a guest i miss the members lounge, lots of 'interesting' topics.
i like that in the for sale section you can only sell non 200sx's if your not a member (stops alot of ramdom for sale threads)
I really want to come to the national events, but something always crops up at the same time theat means i cant, and i would pay membership just for the weekender alone.
Just for kicks, decided to sign up using paypal (all done now) lets see how long it takes.
TheBigShow
23-12-2010, 14:55
Just for kicks, decided to sign up using paypal (all done now) lets see how long it takes.
i bet it'll be quicker than normal. lol
Wow! Done already!!! Amazing!
Kieran_e1
23-12-2010, 15:13
i bet it'll be quicker than normal. lol
ta fa
One of the things that would benifit me would be the discounts for some of the locally heald events. The only one that i am aware of is the SXOC crail drift day.
It is a good event but im not really interested in participating in drifting, i would rather do a dedicated grip event at either crail or knockhill.
I guess there is not enough demand for an event like this because everyone who buys a 200sx these days purely wants to drift it... correct me if i am wrong though
If Grip events of this nature were organised at crail / knockhill then i would most likely become a member again
Kieran_e1
23-12-2010, 15:25
One of the things that would benifit me would be the discounts for some of the locally heald events. The only one that i am aware of is the SXOC crail drift day.
It is a good event but im not really interested in participating in drifting, i would rather do a dedicated grip event at either crail or knockhill.
I guess there is not enough demand for an event like this because everyone who buys a 200sx these days purely wants to drift it... correct me if i am wrong though
If Grip events of this nature were organised at crail / knockhill then i would most likely become a member again
grippers are welcome at the crail day though as has been posted on the thread the last couple of times:confused:
you'll eat more than your 20 quids worth of bbq food at crail days alone
grippers are welcome at the crail day though as has been posted on the thread the last couple of times:confused:
you'll eat more than your 20 quids worth of bbq food at crail days alone
I am aware of that but i am talking about dedicated grip days
I have taken part in one of the SXOC crail days before and it was very well organised and good fun. It is difficult though to drive the car to its full potential when other drivers are fishtailing all over the straight infront of you and not letting you past.
I have attended a dedicated grip day at knockhill before and have never had this problem because the slower driver will pull over to the right and allow you to pass.
So from here we can look at this issue with 2 points of view
1. Its mainly for drifters, deal with it or don't attend
2. Perhaps stricter rules should be applied to the existing events that allow faster drivers to pass on the straights?
Clouder_sx
23-12-2010, 15:31
Will just chip in with one thing. I rarely attend any events now, at all, but will continue to go to Japfest :nod: the club subsidises the ticket, saving about 4 or 5 quid I believe, and I normally take a mate (so 8 or 10 quid saved), I then have a couple of burgers which are a) free, and b) far nicer than the shit you pay £3 for from the van. So in just ONE event, i've almost got my membership money back...
Sign on the dotted line folks ;)
Rubix_Cube
23-12-2010, 15:35
One of the things that would benifit me would be the discounts for some of the locally heald events. The only one that i am aware of is the SXOC crail drift day.
It is a good event but im not really interested in participating in drifting, i would rather do a dedicated grip event at either crail or knockhill.
I guess there is not enough demand for an event like this because everyone who buys a 200sx these days purely wants to drift it... correct me if i am wrong though
If Grip events of this nature were organised at crail / knockhill then i would most likely become a member again
G, as kieran has said, grippers are Welcome :)
There is a thread like this in the members section to get our feedback on the service we currently have. A few of the down south members said the wanted local track days. this was my reply :)
See "SXOC Race Series" thread for the reasons why they dont really happen.
I think for SXOC Track days, your local rep should get info in local track groups and try to piggy back on their events...
For example, Scotland's Only "race" track is Knockhill (everything else is kinda rubbish) now, it costs a fortune and not enough Scottish members could pull together to get a dedicated night/day. So I would suggest posting up the dates in which http://www.trackscotland.co.uk/ hold their events at Knockhill and use their nights. That means even if a small group want to go; say 6 or 7 members, you could all make a great night. :) It might be possible as a club to discuss some form of discount with them, but TBH, paying what they charge doesnt bother me as they are always top class nights
I'm sure the Scottish section had Track Scotland posts up all the time, dunno where these have went. There are a few girppers in Scotland who would be keen to hit Knockhill on a night event, myself included (if I could ever get a car that works :annoyed:
As a track, I wouldn't ever grip crail as its gash surface. IMO its not worth it. Does fine for skidding.
Kieran_e1
23-12-2010, 15:39
I am aware of that but i am talking about dedicated grip days
I have taken part in one of the SXOC crail days before and it was very well organised and good fun. It is difficult though to drive the car to its full potential when other drivers are fishtailing all over the straight infront of you and not letting you past.
I have attended a dedicated grip day at knockhill before and have never had this problem because the slower driver will pull over to the right and allow you to pass.
So from here we can look at this issue with 2 points of view
1. Its mainly for drifters, deal with it or don't attend
2. Perhaps stricter rules should be applied to the existing events that allow faster drivers to pass on the straights?
well i'll discuss this with kev for the next one.
main problem with crail is that for all we make the rules of the day crail tend to ignore us and do what they want so it becomes quite hard to police.
As a track, I wouldn't ever grip crail as its gash surface. IMO its not worth it. Does fine for skidding.
I agree the surface is terrible, however for the price you pay and the track time you get you cant complain, it just goes back to the rules i mentioned previously.
It would be awesome to organise some sort of SXOC knockhill thing, perhaps joining on to another event would be the way forward. I intend to use my sx at some of the knockhill run events next year.
well i'll discuss this with kev for the next one.
main problem with crail is that for all we make the rules of the day crail tend to ignore us and do what they want so it becomes quite hard to police.
I do understand where you are coming from, you can kinda tell the marshals dont really give a f*ck and just want their beer money for standing in the cold all day. There must be some sort of way of implimenting a system that works though?
I would be interested to hear if you guys come up with a solution :)
donnylad
23-12-2010, 16:11
well my memberships just ran out and ive tried pming jezz but cant as my inbox is now full but i dont want to delete them all.
ive sent my payment over with my real name and user name as requested. money should go straight in as was in my paypal account anyway.
i know its my fault for not realising i hadnt done it but mods be nice and try not let me inbox delete its self! :sxoc:
Jezz_S13
23-12-2010, 16:39
well my memberships just ran out and ive tried pming jezz but cant as my inbox is now full but i dont want to delete them all.
ive sent my payment over with my real name and user name as requested. money should go straight in as was in my paypal account anyway.
i know its my fault for not realising i hadnt done it but mods be nice and try not let me inbox delete its self! :sxoc:
Sorted. :)
Even your PM box might be back.
donnylad
23-12-2010, 16:41
it is, thanks alot. join up peoples its better because it is! :sxoc:
Stance200
23-12-2010, 17:55
i havnt renewed mine becuase im poor :(
rising son
23-12-2010, 18:48
personally for what i use the forum for i dont see a benefit... i source my own parts very cheaply therfor club discounts ect arent an interest to me, and i dont really plan on using my 200 on a track, its a great forum tho and if i had too i wud join but until then im happy as it is
stinky 32
23-12-2010, 19:07
i havent joined for one reason only and thats coz am a lazy c*^t lol sorry
Kieran_e1
23-12-2010, 19:24
personally for what i use the forum for i dont see a benefit... i source my own parts very cheaply therfor club discounts ect arent an interest to me, and i dont really plan on using my 200 on a track, its a great forum tho and if i had too i wud join but until then im happy as it is
i hope once you've been to some meets you'll start to see the other benefits
Used to pay when I had an Sbody, do not at present so don't. If I ever fall from grace again ill prob renew :thumbs:
I was a member but as has been said before, i didn't see any real benefits from the discounts given, and never attended any meets so gained little from it. But after all these years i felt i should contribute something to the running of the forum, least i could do.
Although the projects section is nice to have access to.
Nothing much ever happened in northern ireland that i did not organise so stopped paying membership, think i paid it 2 years. No area rep anymore reason i was told was there was not enough official members so none was voted.. Nuts to that me thinks, its a car club lets not get to anal about whos a member and whos not. So i voted "no local events" Also spent time organising things between skylineowners.com and here as was a rep on skylineowners.com at the time. The things i did organise were good and had good turn outs but always had to label them "unofficial" cause it did not have the "sxoc seal of approval" lol. However did get told off once or twice for trying to organise things because i was not a area rep. again nuts to that, if no one else wants to and lets be honest not many up north are going to travel to the south for a meet, whats the harm in gathering up the local northern ireland owners :)
There are also a huge amount of sx's over here, lots. And most the ones that are seen about are busy out and about, not on the internet worrying about vvt rattle lol. Especially the big power ones. But nothing much happened in the ireland section and what were active members now mostly are well and truely off the radar.
Meh, im not a owner anymore but i say i will be back. My signature history can predict that.
I was a fully paid member for a long time, even through times of non s-body ownership.
The main reason for not renewing was financial priorities, not so long ago for me every penny counted and I know £20 isn't much, but that's some nappies for the littlest :)
Now I'm more financially sound it's more because of how I utilise the forum. I keep in touch with the friends I've made here over the years and generally attend the local meets, I don't get to any events anymore and don't buy parts from traders so I wouldn't benefit from the discounts. Those events I do make it to I'm happy to pay the additional, this year that still cost me less than membership.
I appreciate that I often ask advice on here and you could argue that is worth paying for, but I do also provide my own advice where I can so I like to think I put something back. If I had to pay to use the forum full stop? I don't know what I'd do, I think I could stay in touch with everyone I want to via other channels and I'm not sure I'd like the thought of being forced into it.
I'm fairly certain when I have a decent car again and would like to make use of club track days etc I'd sign up again.
Bottom line, I love this club and this forum, have met a lot of really decent people through it and many of these are now also people I would consider to be good friends. I just don't feel the need to pay to mainly chat in non 200 at the mo :)
Same as dellboy although I've just signed up in a kind of Xmas charity type motivated thing, but the beauty of this place is that it doesn't force anyone to pay, else we'd lose a lot of knowledge and community spirit.
Having signed up again, it's pretty much as I expected/remembered. Hopefully there'll be a rust free stage 2 s13 that doesnt look like its crashed through halfrauds for sale in the members section. Ever the optimist, me. :)
Kieran_e1
23-12-2010, 21:23
Same as dellboy although I've just signed up in a kind of Xmas charity type motivated thing, but the beauty of this place is that it doesn't force anyone to pay, else we'd lose a lot of knowledge and community spirit.
Having signed up again, it's pretty much as I expected/remembered. Hopefully there'll be a rust free stage 2 s13 that doesnt look like its crashed through halfrauds for sale in the members section. Ever the optimist, me. :)
there might be soon, pm me what your looking for
stevie_t
23-12-2010, 21:57
Only one reason i havent signed up which is i don't own an s-body yet. I became interested in the site as i was interested in getting an s14a and thought the best people to speak to were the people that already own them, and a credit to the members on here as even know i havent signed up thay have provided no end of info on these car's when ive asked about them..so thanks. I have been interested in other cars but it would cost me a fortune to sign up to every site for a car i might not buy !. I have my mind set on a 200 now so kind of see becomeing a member as a reward for getting a 200, abit sad some might say. I suppose having different levels of memership would work but might also make it difficult for people to get advise on purchaseing the cars (as i was) rather than maintaining them as i imagine most members use areas of the site for ???? All just my opinion of course.
Hopefully ill be able to talk from a members point of veiw soon :)
Ste
im a new member with a fairly standard S14 so will be joining the members section after the new year as I am sure i will benefit from discounts and reduce prices for crail so should pay for itself in the year
Chriscooke
23-12-2010, 23:28
A little incentive to people who have never been members. There are mucky threads in the members section ;) thats worth the money alone :D
A little incentive to people who have never been members. There are mucky threads in the members section ;) thats worth the money alone :D
Very true - Chris suffered a long time off work with a hand injury due to said members section :D
Chriscooke
24-12-2010, 00:10
Very true - Chris suffered a long time off work with a hand injury due to said members section :D
That was meant to be a secret :wack: :D
You non member types realise that discounts on insurance and parts are for any car, not just the 200, right?? :confused:
John Tarantula
24-12-2010, 11:02
I haven't owned an S body for a while now, don't really go to any events / don't seem to be any in London? Am sceptical about the insurance discount but do enjoy reading the board!
The technical sections helped me A LOT when i did have S bodies though.
You non member types realise that discounts on insurance and parts are for any car, not just the 200, right?? :confused:
yep, but i am able to source my insurance and parts cheaper locally, even with the SXOC discount.
on a side note, is the SXOC Daily Quiz i setup still running in the members lounge?
Kieran_e1
24-12-2010, 11:12
yep, but i am able to source my insurance and parts cheaper locally, even with the SXOC discount.
on a side note, is the SXOC Daily Quiz i setup still running in the members lounge?
yes it still goes strong
yes it still goes strong
thats been going for a few years now,
was a member until i went away for a year and membership lapsed, once I came back got no response to my membership query (perhaps were silly questions) - tried twice I think and then left it :(
have no issues being a member, no one forces you to and everyone is helpful on the boards so more than happy to contribute
thehats13
24-12-2010, 20:49
basically im too lazy to sort out who i need to send money too to restart my membership as i used to have one and it ran out
if anyone can sort this please pm me
Rude Dog
24-12-2010, 21:38
I don't own any sort of SX/Silvia anymore but I renewed last year, after not being a member for the previous 2 and I'd happily say the fee is worth it. I went to the weekender this year in the stagea and easily ate 20 quids of burger/kebab/bacon and probs drunk another 20 quids worth of alcofrolic slush puppies. Shit it was worth 20 quid to hear in excess of 100 people sing "Algies a cnut when the crowd says bo selecta", which is technically a lie as he's always a cnut :D
Thats £60 on its own :eek:
The club spirit on here is, and always has been awesome! Some one has just paid my subs for a year coz I is skint and can't afford it where i'm sick and waiting for an op and my Mrs got made redundant and now has to look after me full time!!! I don't really know any other car clubs where people look out for others like that but thats what this club is all about underneath the Nazi mods and no streeto cos it's bad M'kay! :ken:
The members section is deffo worth looking in if you likes your internetz porn as well. Without this place i'd have never ever found out about female body builders shitting in each other cups and other delights :hurl: and whilst looking at said porn the wife thinks i'm looking at SXOC. Winnah :D
One of the things that would benifit me would be the discounts for some of the locally heald events. The only one that i am aware of is the SXOC crail drift day.
It is a good event but im not really interested in participating in drifting, i would rather do a dedicated grip event at either crail or knockhill.
I guess there is not enough demand for an event like this because everyone who buys a 200sx these days purely wants to drift it... correct me if i am wrong though
If Grip events of this nature were organised at crail / knockhill then i would most likely become a member again
I have to agree with big g here. We used to have loads more events such as go karting, knockhill track days, Inglestone, big meets at strathy in the summer, runs up the trossachs that the goose has suggested on numerous occassions. There just doesnt seem much interest up here these days.
Other than the Crail days and the usual Brewers fayre sit inside all night meets, nothing else gets organised. The lack of communication regarding the last rr day was personally the last straw for me. I joined MLR instead.
Not to say I wont ever rejoin again though. Ive been toying with another s-body for a while. It would also be nice to see some of the old faces back at events however unlikely it may be.
Im just plain lazy and havent got round to it yet.
Will be sorting this out ASAP!!
I know it says "members don't post" but...
My freshly-rebuilt 2001 S14a had an intimate head-on encounter with a tyrewall @ ~100mph after the brakes failed completely. Within hours the local SXOC members had clubbed together to help get me back on the road in a new shell which meant digging deep into both their own pockets and their own time - I had never heard of, nevermind witnessed, such an amazing communal act of selflessness & Club Spirit and still haven't since! It still amazes me to this day how fantastic and giving of themselves the people in this club are. Thank you SXOC! :notworthy :sxoc:
Rubix_Cube
26-12-2010, 11:12
I have to agree with big g here. We used to have loads more events such as go karting, knockhill track days, Inglestone, big meets at strathy in the summer, runs up the trossachs that the goose has suggested on numerous occassions. There just doesnt seem much interest up here these days.
Other than the Crail days and the usual Brewers fayre sit inside all night meets, nothing else gets organised. The lack of communication regarding the last rr day was personally the last straw for me. I joined MLR instead.
Not to say I wont ever rejoin again though. Ive been toying with another s-body for a while. It would also be nice to see some of the old faces back at events however unlikely it may be.
I think you answered your own question their Ally :(
I think with funds being tighter for a lot of people, or simply people moving on in the lifes the Scottish section as it was is slowly shrinking.
i paid membership for 3 years i think. maybe 4 but i forget now. but wont be renewing just yet.
in that time ive benefited from 2 slightly cheaper track sessions at castle coombe. and met a few good guys.
other than that i paid because at the time i was learning a lot about my s13 so had a lot of questions. but lately my questions are more in depth and generally go unanswered as its normally above what a general sx owner would know,
i seem to get a lot more resoponse and knowledge from the driftworks guys. and that forrum is free.
i personally havent had time or the money to spend on membership lately, but i believe the money that i have paid was worth it as i have managed to gain a lot from this site, and have saved a lot of garage bills by learning the sx's little problems that can be easily sorted out by little tricks of the trade and not paying through the nose for brand new parts all the time. (lambder sensor springs to mind, just unplug and it ran fine for years lol)
these days i do ask a few general questions but as said i normally get more responses from the driftworks guys as there field of knowledge is much wider than an sx specific forrum. but that said you also get a lot of crap responses over there with people just guessing.
and as i have a skyline engine in mine its a little different from the sx guys knowledge. no fault of you guys over here.
i basically only use this forrum to pass on my previous experiences and help others now. and just nose at others projecets. i may rejoin again some time but at the moment i dont feel i gain any benefit from it.
i think a lot of the reason i dont use the benefits is the fact that in the southwest its so far away from anything it costs a fortune to get to any events other than coombe. which negates the benefit of a small discount anyway. which is no sxoc's fault, just the fact that down here we get sod all as its too full of noise complainers grrrr!!
Sorry to be another staffer replying on this thread.
But I thought I'm likely the best one to reply to rubix, medium g and Ally.
Basically g there has not been enough interest from grippers to either organise a grip only day, nor to section off the crail days.
I could run the days an hour drift, an hour grip etc, but besides yourself, only Dunc has asked about gripping, and so 2 peeps in 35 attendees doesn't make sense tbh.
As rubix said, Adam from track Scotland used to post up about track nights, and Dunc, Math and a couple of others would attend.
We have never had even nearly enough grippers to arrange a track day in Scotland, and even with cheap as chips crail I still struggle to get the numbers to make the day viable every time.
We have tried paintball and karting and even outdoors adventure events and every one has fell flat because of a lack of attendees, the latest of these was the rr day.
We usually get 20+ attendees for this, but in the occassion mentioned by you Ally, we couldn't even get the minimum 10, and it was postponed at the last minute.
Steve was organising this, but he asked for my input, and I said to postpone.
Steve doesn't have ur number Ally, but I do and with heinsight I should have phoned u when the decision was made mate, but tbh my head has been up my arse for the past few months for various personal reasons and I wasn't thinking straight.
So basically sorry mate, hands up, was my fault, and I do understand why you were pissed about that, hopefully you know me well enough to know it wasn't done out of spite or arrogance, more of headuparse disease.
Kev
Oh and the run up to the trossachs is something talked about every tear fir the last 5 and always comes down to cars being off the road, usually martins:D
same with another Baltic balmaha BBQ bonanza.
Maybe next year??
Being a paid member is more than getting cheap events and discounts, it's about giving some support to the overall club to ensure that it keeps going. A simple example is that the server that this site is hosted on is not free, it all costs money. So even though all the technical support is there for members and non-members, it does cost cash to someone not to mention the amount of time people give to the site.
And the membership fee is pittance compared to other car clubs that I am in, so I will gladly renew each year just to ensure that the excellent support is always online for me.
Sideways Simon
27-12-2010, 00:41
Theres not much incentive for people in Ireland to become full members, thats the feedback ive got and can fully understand that...
saying that , ive always been a paid up member on here, its handy for the free postage on club merchandise but otherwise its off no benefit to Irish members
Theres not much incentive for people in Ireland to become full members, thats the feedback ive got and can fully understand that...
saying that , ive always been a paid up member on here, its handy for the free postage on club merchandise but otherwise its off no benefit to Irish members
What I've always said to everybody is come to as many events as possible and then the club is actually paying you to attend :nod:
Off the top of my head, I reckon between subsidies and the likes of the free bar-b-q at Japfest (Ireland) and after the Karting, each member (who attended everything) probably got about 2 years worth of membership fees back in 2010.
I concede not being able to (easily) access the main UK perks can be a little bit of disadvantage but watch this space for more local ones. ;)
Theres not much incentive for people in Ireland to become full members, thats the feedback ive got and can fully understand that...
saying that , ive always been a paid up member on here, its handy for the free postage on club merchandise but otherwise its off no benefit to Irish members
I agree with this. It's not as attractive for us to join the club as someone living in the UK. If your living in the uk, the events the club organises are absolutely fantastic without a shadow of a doubt, but the cost to attend these events just don't make them as appealing for us. The weekender is the best club event of the year imo, but coming from Ireland cost me near 1K last year. I tried doing JAE on the cheap by flying over, but still cost over 200.
I've never saved anything on parts from the traders i bought off by being a member. Insurance discounts don't apply in ROI.
I think we don't advertise the club enough in Ireland. We need to attend more events, shows ect to make more people aware of the sxoc, and make the most of whats available to us. Maybe a few more social events that our partners could come along too.
I attended the karting/bbq and japfest all of last year, but other then the RR day, was there any other events? I'm just looking from the point of view that would encourage new irish members join up.
Personally, i love the sxoc :ghey: I think the local reps do a great job giving up there own free time and do realise the massive amount work and effort that goes into orgainising events :notworthy I'm only trying to give ideas that might create more incentive and make the sxoc more inviting for new irish members.
Theres not much incentive for people in Ireland to become full members, thats the feedback ive got and can fully understand that...
Yeah exactly, if I was in the UK I would be a fully paid member without a doubt, since there isn't much there that I could really benefit from actually being a full member on here, can't see the point for anyone outside the UK wanting to pay for it !
I was a member a while back and then i let it lapse and i never got round to renewing it but still used the forum often.
I then had the birth of my baby boy and new house etc and i have also decided to fully rebuild my 14a, so was waiting to get this to a certain stage before i signed back up and started a project thread.
I think from my view i didnt know many folk and didnt attend many events/meets etc but now that i do know a few im going to a few more things like crail/knockhill etc. I think if you are attending events and are fully aware of the discounts etc that apply to you then its worth the fee.
I find the fee itself totally reasonable and i will be signing back up again in the new year.
Cheers Aj
I attended the karting/bbq and japfest all of last year, but other then the RR day, was there any other events?
There were a few:
Rolling Road day Pt 1
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=446996
Rolling Road day pt 2
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=473268
SXOC drift day (cancelled due to adverse weather)
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=476083
Japfest Ireland
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=468568
Terenure Classic Car show:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=456066 Fell through because of little interest (4 cars wasn't enough).
All Ireland Karting championship
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=459651
SXOC trackday (cancelled due to not getting the numbers)
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=445813
West Xmas dinner:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=476583
East Xmas dinner:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=476794
That's in Ireland, add to that JAE and the weekender there was nearly an event for every month of the year. :nod:
Yeah exactly, if I was in the UK I would be a fully paid member without a doubt, since there isn't much there that I could really benefit from actually being a full member on here, can't see the point for anyone outside the UK wanting to pay for it !
On the last post I made above mate, if everyone of those events had ran (which unfortunately they didn't) and you attended all of them. You would have received subsidies and free food that was probably worth double the cost of the years membership. If you attended 4 you would be breaking even. If that doesn't have a point to it, I don't know what does. :thumbs:
Sideways Simon
27-12-2010, 16:38
ill def make the karting day next year
dannyboi200sx
27-12-2010, 17:19
havent paid yet lol
:o im probaby the most forget full person in the world and always forget to pay the renewal fee :o
i'll get round to it again at some point even tho i dont own an s body at this point in time.
maybe mopre payment options would help ? just a thought :D
Ashleyyy
29-12-2010, 15:11
just picked up my s14a loving it and everyone on here seems great already got some great advice and parts from you guys!:thumbs: reason I'm still a guest is cause my 200sx has some new shoes need to wait till the 12th to become a member
I'm not sure I get why people 'haven't got round to it yet'..
Paypal, 5 minutes.. done.
Running a forum isn't free :no: and if you use a club regularly, especially as your 'main' forum, I don't see why you shouldn't help pay to keep it running.
The1Nick
29-12-2010, 15:55
I am like a few others that have posted. Owned an s14a and was a member, no longer owned a s14a so no longer a member. The info I got from this site was invaluable when I had the car, also I paid up for the discounts, I agree the old insurance discount is a bit dubious, but there were group buy etc that I easily saved earnt my membership back on.
I like the two tiered approach, it’s a great idea. Esp as last time the issue of money came up I remember sxoc had 14k in the bank and were asking questions like is it acceptable for the local reps to spend some of this money on meeting meals etc!
I don’t come on here every day, but I used too, I can see myself coming back to sxoc time and time again as there are a number of people who always have an opinion here, which I like.
As has been said this is like a social club, where we all joined initially because of the lover for one car, the car some would describe as different, mad, unsafe and great fun – which is how I would describe myself and probably most of you here!
I would be happy to pay £5 - £10 a year this would fully fund the resources I use and probably another 100 guests any more the £10 is taking the pi$$ imo.
Also open up track days etc to other types of cars and maybe you will have more members as more people will be able to take part. This has moved on from being the sx only oc.
A little incentive to people who have never been members. There are mucky threads in the members section ;) thats worth the money alone :D
Im sorry to quote you Chris,but I really dont agree mate,your lucky to get pics of a pair of tits with the nips showing!! If anyone put up a photo of a woman lying on her bed with her legs spread and her pussy showing it would be closed within 30 seconds and you would either be banned or sent a PM giving you a telling off:wack:
Personally I think there are a lot of great things going for this site, and a lot of helpful members,the technical section is the best part for me although advice on almost anything is available if you ask!!:D This site harbours a broad knowledge of life in some ways:nod:But there negatives too that I dont need to go into.
I havent renewed because the bank fcuked up the transaction:wack: although I sent jeff a PM asking if all was well,and if not to let me know and I would sort it asap. I heard nothing and just logged on to find my PM's stopped and my access cut off-meh, I dont know if I really will bother to now, I only pay to become a member as a way of paying something back anyway, I dont personally see any benefits of being a paid up member.
The discount side of things is something I will mention though as tbh I agree with what has already been said:nod: where are they?? the grouop uys are good but I dont see any actual % off anywhere?? and the same as others have found,when actually questioning traders about discounts, I too have been faced with "thats including the discount mate":rolleyes: even though I then found them cheaper elsewhere!!
Insurance is cheaper for me NOT to use any advertised on here,in fact the companies who are on here are quite a lot higher indeed.Particularly A Flux:mad:
Nit-picking perhaps but since you mention it...
Also open up track days etc to other types of cars and maybe you will have more members as more people will be able to take part. This has moved on from being the sx only oc.
If you're a Member on an SXOC trackday the general rule we've always applied is "whatever you turn up in on the day - SX or not" ;) (unless it's specifically SX-only but it's been a while since I've seen one of those days being organised).
what if its none of the above??
what if its none of the above??
Then you tick the "Other" option and state why none of the above were applicable to you, as the poll suggests you do :wack:
Then you tick the "Other" option and state why none of the above were applicable to you, as the poll suggests you do :wack:
fpmsl.......you always make me laugh:D:wack:
I'm not sure I get why people 'haven't got round to it yet'..
Paypal, 5 minutes.. done.
Running a forum isn't free :no: and if you use a club regularly, especially as your 'main' forum, I don't see why you shouldn't help pay to keep it running.
sorry but i think thats a bit of a harsh attiude to have :( .
people come to the forum for various reasons, information, banter, for sale items, if you lock down the entire forum to paid " members only" you elininating the possiblity of new members joining , i know that i've gone to forums looking for info only to find the majority of it is locked down, i never joined and never gave it a second thought.
I thinkt he structure the club has now is good and works well. If people want to join the club the will, a lot of people who have been on here for a good few years may not bwe paid members any more but still come on a contruibute to the threads, the info etc and if you make them pay a fee you may well lose them , no club will work without a influx of new and old users to the website.
granted it costs money to run the club but the memberships and renewals do cover this. if you want more people to joing, re join, maybe lock down a few more sections,
forsale, traders sections etc, whilst still leaving the comunity side of things open for new possible members to see what kind of club we are and then joining up at a later date.
I hope know the committie will always do what is best for the clubs interests :thumbs:
ricky3510
30-12-2010, 17:00
sorry but i think thats a bit of a harsh attiude to have :( .
people come to the forum for various reasons, information, banter, for sale items, if you lock down the entire forum to paid " members only" you elininating the possiblity of new members joining , i know that i've gone to forums looking for info only to find the majority of it is locked down, i never joined and never gave it a second thought.
I thinkt he structure the club has now is good and works well. If people want to join the club the will, a lot of people who have been on here for a good few years may not bwe paid members any more but still come on a contruibute to the threads, the info etc and if you make them pay a fee you may well lose them , no club will work without a influx of new and old users to the website.
granted it costs money to run the club but the memberships and renewals do cover this. if you want more people to joing, re join, maybe lock down a few more sections,
forsale, traders sections etc, whilst still leaving the comunity side of things open for new possible members to see what kind of club we are and then joining up at a later date.
I hope know the committie will always do what is best for the clubs interests :thumbs:
Well of course you like the "structure" you have 4k odd posts and aren't a member!!.....
Well of course you like the "structure" you have 4k odd posts and aren't a member!!.....
Don't forget Kiz was a rep not so many months ago, and all paid up :nod:
Well of course you like the "structure" you have 4k odd posts and aren't a member!!.....
Don't forget Kiz was a rep not so many months ago, and all paid up :nod:
cheers malc :thumbs:
kind of gives it away in my sig :rolleyes: :wack:
yes i was staff for a couple of years hence the post count, and i've also been on the board since 2006 i recently stepped down from staff and didnt renew my membership due to not being active on the board again untill recently for personal reasons and also selling my 200 in the summer i didnt see the point untill i am back at meets and club events , when i buy a new s body i will off course renew my membership :D
We have adopted a 'No Chin' policy now though, so no chin, no membership :wack:
Well of course you like the "structure" you have 4k odd posts and aren't a member!!.....
Pot, Kettle?
We have adopted a 'No Chin' policy now though, so no chin, no membership :wack:
haha thanks mate, you'll be glad to know since i stopped smoking and became a fat git i grew a chin :D
well technically i grew a couple :wack:
Sorry Lou but I think your argument is based on the fact everybody has a payal account,I dont and never will due to them being so shite!! I have seen sooo many others have problems with paypal I would never use them:no:
I dont know if it was possible? but if you could have the ability to buy membership with your card in the membership section that would be easy:nod: the same as buying anything else online,just input your card details and hey presto:)
zeppelin101
05-01-2011, 12:43
You can do a bank transfer, which if you aren't going to have paypal is a perfectly reasonable option imo and you only have to set it up the once then the details are all ready to go for renewal next year.
I dont know if it was possible? but if you could have the ability to buy membership with your card in the membership section that would be easy:nod: the same as buying anything else online,just input your card details and hey presto:)
We are not a business you know :confused: We have 2 reasonably efficient payment methods, both you can do from the comfort of your home and take 5 mins max :)
Next you will be wanting reps to have chip and pin machines :wack:
Granted the membership process could be more automated and thats something we are working on but its still not a massive ballache, its actually harder work for the guys processing the memberships than it is for those paying :)
Sideways14a
05-01-2011, 13:04
The bank transfer thing is a piece of piss to use and very quick, anyone with online banking should be able to use it in seconds :wack:
I too hate paypal but with the addition of bank transfer option its now easier than ever to pay.
If the membership process got a bit more automated and streamlined, coupled with the two ways to pay above then it could well attract a lot more folk.
Then again half the sxoc cant afford to fill there cars with petrol so joining the club is prob a bit of an ask :horse::D
Maddog1982
05-01-2011, 13:27
I dont own a S13 any more and share all of Johnnys views. I think £17 is just a little to much money just to read the members area.
For what its worth full membership to the fiesta STOC is £8. If this was the case id happily pay that amount.
Sorry Lou but I think your argument is based on the fact everybody has a payal account,I dont and never will due to them being so shite!! I have seen sooo many others have problems with paypal I would never use them:no:
I dont know if it was possible? but if you could have the ability to buy membership with your card in the membership section that would be easy:nod: the same as buying anything else online,just input your card details and hey presto:)
I've never once had an issue using paypal :no:
There have been many many people who have send money (usually as a gift, so no chance of getting your cash back should anything go wrong) who have been ripped off, but it's a very quick and easy way of paying cash over to someone, and there isn't that risk there of being ripped off, just paying over money for membership or to someone you know.
And has been said, bank transfer is just as easy :nod:
For what its worth full membership to the fiesta STOC is £8. If this was the case id happily pay that amount.
And what do you get for your £8?
No members pack
No mention of subsidised events
No webmail
No oil analysis scheme
Although what i do like is you cant see the traders area unless you are a member :wack:
But i bet the traders would freak if we potentially halfed their audience :D
Yes their could be a demand for a 2 tier membership but would the club loose out more from people going from full membership to the forum only one than it gains from those taking the forum access option :confused:
Also is £1.66 (1.42 for renewal) a month really too much to use a forum you really like and get good advice from :confused:
Going to the pub is free but would you just sit there and chat with your mates and not buy a beer :confused:
:)
Sideways14a
05-01-2011, 13:59
Cant say fairer than that, £1.66 a month is peanuts compared to the amount of free and high quality information this forum gives.
How about non members get additional adverts on screen :p
I wasnt refering to the gift side of things with paypal Lou:no: and agree if I used online banking it would be way easier:nod: but I dont unfortunately so the only option I have is to go down the bank in person and pay over the counter-which obviously hasn't done me any good this year:wack:
I can see where people are coming from who say that £17 is a lot to access the members area though,although I dont think a 2 tier system is helping:no: thats pretty much what we have now anyway:wack:
Maddog1982
05-01-2011, 16:39
And what do you get for your £8?
No members pack
No mention of subsidised events
No webmail
No oil analysis scheme
Although what i do like is you cant see the traders area unless you are a member :wack:
But i bet the traders would freak if we potentially halfed their audience :D
Yes their could be a demand for a 2 tier membership but would the club loose out more from people going from full membership to the forum only one than it gains from those taking the forum access option :confused:
Also is £1.66 (1.42 for renewal) a month really too much to use a forum you really like and get good advice from :confused:
Going to the pub is free but would you just sit there and chat with your mates and not buy a beer :confused:
:)
I'm afraid I have and never would use any of those services. I did receive a membership pack at the time which was a nice touch but its something id be happy to give up.
I do go the pub and don't drink beer unless its a saturday :D
I know its not much when you break the cost down much but there never does seem a month when I have a spare 17 quid since buying my house, as I have said I would only use the membership section of the forum. I would however pay £1.66 a month if you wanted to collected that monthly and to be honest id probably never cancel being such a tiny amount :D
Im with most people here, I havent owned a s body for a year so it hasnt been renewed so personally i couldnt justify the full price,
Althought i would happly pay £5 towards to club towards what Johnny was saying :)
I would however pay £1.66 a month if you wanted to collected that monthly and to be honest id probably never cancel being such a tiny amount :D
Nail head!!
if you did a monthly/quaterly/halfly/annual subscriptions where its a bit cheaper to do the year
something like
£17 for 1 year in a one off payment - gets full benifits of club (discounts, subsidised events, etc) and member ship pack instantly
£9 for 6 months, gets full benifits to the club, no membership pack (membership card only for discount retreival from traders) untill second 6 months has been paid, no subsidised events untill second 6 months have been paid
£5 per quater, gets Access to full forum, no membership pack or card, membership card sent out on 2nd quater payment, full membership at 1 year.
£2 per month, gets access to members area, but can not sell non-sx cars (like the guests do now) no membership pack or card, card sent out after 6 months, etc etc
i know it would be an administrative headache to start with, but there has to be some software to enable this to work, and payment via standing order (no need for Direct debits etc)
Sideways14a
05-01-2011, 17:14
I think that would ultimately end up bringing in less money to the sxoc.
Another angle to think of:
I don't own an S Body
I don't use the member's section much
I don't use oil analysis
I don't get the discounts from insurance affiliates.
I don't really use the traders on here.
Have I saved more than £20 in mechanic's bills with the free advice from here? Fcuk yes. 10's, possibly hundreds of times over.
Have I made friends from here? Yes, lots, and that's worth paying for. Yes, that's right, I'm paying for friends, lap it up, Online friend prostitution FTW :D
Nail head!!
if you did a monthly/quaterly/halfly/annual subscriptions where its a bit cheaper to do the year
something like
£17 for 1 year in a one off payment - gets full benifits of club (discounts, subsidised events, etc) and member ship pack instantly
£9 for 6 months, gets full benifits to the club, no membership pack (membership card only for discount retreival from traders) untill second 6 months has been paid, no subsidised events untill second 6 months have been paid
£5 per quater, gets Access to full forum, no membership pack or card, membership card sent out on 2nd quater payment, full membership at 1 year.
£2 per month, gets access to members area, but can not sell non-sx cars (like the guests do now) no membership pack or card, card sent out after 6 months, etc etc
i know it would be an administrative headache to start with, but there has to be some software to enable this to work, and payment via standing order (no need for Direct debits etc)
Sorry but that just wouldnt work IMHO, how many would "join up" just for the dry season when most of the events are, not really fair on existing full membership base to have skin flints pay for a six months and still get the same benifits for cheaper. And the income to the club would be less, but suddenly more members turn up to club events?!?
Lets face it, the yearly membership is the square root of feck all anyway, if your too tight to pay that, and again IMHO on your bike ;)
I can see however a gap for a donation to the club for just board use, and access to other areas, but im not sure how that would work, would it mean taking something away and giving it back? hmmm....
Sideways14a
05-01-2011, 17:22
Newbies coming on here get a bloody shed load of free and cheep advice straight off the bat - easily dwarfing the fee to join.
IMHO on your bike ;)
If you can afford the petrol
Online friend prostitution FTW :D
Epic - Si has the winner.
Membership of the sxoc gets you access to some of the members members, no questions asked and free blindfolds and mind bleach with each welcome pack. Ok who's up first. :ghey: :eek:
zeppelin101
05-01-2011, 17:26
Membership of the sxoc gets you access to some of the members members, no questions asked and free blindfolds and mind bleach with each welcome pack. Ok who's up first. :ghey: :eek:
This place just gets :ghey:er by the day :smash:
Monthly direct debit sounds like a winner, I'd never forget to renew, not notice £1 odd a month and unlikey to cancel.
Sorry but that just wouldnt work IMHO, how many would "join up" just for the dry season when most of the events are, not really fair on existing full membership base to have skin flints pay for a six months and still get the same benifits for cheaper. And the income to the club would be less, but suddenly more members turn up to club events?!?
Lets face it, the yearly membership is the square root of feck all anyway, if your too tight to pay that, and again IMHO on your bike ;)
I can see however a gap for a donation to the club for just board use, and access to other areas, but im not sure how that would work, would it mean taking something away and giving it back? hmmm....
well you'd only get the full benifits after paying for 12 months worth of fees. and you'd only get the full benifits the club offers from day one [of your subscription] if you paid the full amount in one go.
i could have worded it better
for the 6 months, you get full access to the online part of the club, being able to sell non-200SX's etc, access to member lounge, you get a membership card (a half membership if you were) to get discounts from the traders and thats it. after another 6 months you then get full benifits including your full card, membership pack, sub'd events etc for the remainder of the 2nd 6 months. you can still turn up at events but your treated like a non-member
quartly - same as above but you dont receive your member ship card untill your 2nd quarter payment (after 6 months) so no discounts, you also can not sell non-200sx's
monthsly same as quartly but you only get access to member lounge, member ship card after 6 months etc etc
fritzkrackers
05-01-2011, 17:46
im pretty skint too like a lotta folk here but a years membership is less than the price of 4 packets of fags ffs. i WANT to SUPPORT the club and isnt that what it all boils down to? ive never been to a meet/weekender etc or had any other benefit from my £20 other than a "money cant buy one" keyring but i wont be a leech just because i can. did that sound harsh? sorry! love you xxx
ive used the tech section loads though and its INVALUBLE and has saved me a fortune.
nuff respec' for the sxoc innit. :notworthy:sxoc::notworthy
MalcolmGT
05-01-2011, 17:52
ill give my 2 pence. i would like to join the members club but £20 a year is alot of money. maybe not to some but to others it is.
i am part of a starlet forum and pay 10 euros a year, the information is amazing. you get access to sell parts or cars with this. bigger pm inbox.
i personally think the being a member to sell is a good idea. if you made the cost of membership to £8 or soemthing you mya get less people paying the full £20 but im conviced alot of people would pay that £8.
i would like to join the members club but £20 a year is alot of money.
Is it really :confused:
Its 1/4 tank of fuel, 7 pints of beer, 4 packs of fags, 4 issues of jap performance, 1/2 a PS3 game etc etc.
I really really dont get the 'i cant afford it' arguement :confused: How do you manage to even run a car, let alone a 200 if you cant afford a single £20 payment. :confused:
GTROC is something like £50, that i can understand people saying its a bit pricey :nod: but £20 :confused:
Evilchap
05-01-2011, 18:06
It's worth every penny and more.
Those who dont/wont pay are just trying and failing to justify freeloading :p
Not only is it cheap, it's a bloody bargain. If you dont think it's a bargain, remember saying that the next time you post in the tech section and sideways has to tell you that you have a boost leak :wack:
I would have to agree that £20 is a very small price to pay for the services that are availiable through the SXOC :nod:
craig8585
05-01-2011, 18:22
Don't bite my head off for asking this.. but does SXOC have a public accounts page or thread so we can see what happens to the money and where it gets spent? I'm not sure how many full members SXOC has but there must be a serious amount of money in the system, plus that from the traders.
The reason I didn't renew my subscription is because I don't personally get anything out of being a paid member. I 'donate' on S15OC and get nothing extra from it, but that is my decision and I have my reasons for it.
Rubix_Cube
05-01-2011, 19:37
I'm a bit like Si in a way, this place has saved me a fortune on tech info, has introduced me to amazing people I'm likely never to forget.
I eat my membership fee at events...paying to be on here has gotten me some frickin AWESOME free food!!! Hog Roast at JAE 08, Countless Scottish BBQ's at Crail/Knocky, Weekender 09 and 10.... If you come to events and socialise with the club, then you reap the benefits more. If you don't come to club events you'll never see the true benefit of the place tbh.
Oh...
im pretty skint too like a lotta folk here but a years membership is less than the price of 4 packets of fags ffs. i WANT to SUPPORT the club and isnt that what it all boils down to? ive never been to a meet/weekender etc or had any other benefit from my £20 other than a "money cant buy one" keyring but i wont be a leech just because i can. did that sound harsh? sorry! love you xxx
ive used the tech section loads though and its INVALUBLE and has saved me a fortune.
nuff respec' for the sxoc innit. :notworthy:sxoc::notworthy
You missed the Ayr meet back in November dude!!! Check the scottish section more!!! Meeting me might scare you for life, but don't worry, the rest of the mob aint half as weird is me :)
zeppelin101
05-01-2011, 19:46
Don't bite my head off for asking this.. but does SXOC have a public accounts page or thread so we can see what happens to the money and where it gets spent? I'm not sure how many full members SXOC has but there must be a serious amount of money in the system, plus that from the traders.
It's pretty clear where it goes when you go to one of the big events that SXOC are at.
There's the weekender with catering for so many people and all the other bits that go on for one weekend. Sure, you pay towards it as well as your membership but it's a bloody expensive weekend for the club. Prescott isn't exactly cheap to hire out in the first place amongst everything else.
Some of the local events are subsidised by the club for members so that we get a discount. Food at all the events - and there is plenty of it.
Go to one of the events and you'll see where it goes. Probably seems a big odd me saying that as I haven't been to the weekender, nor have I been with the club at one of the events :wack: But I've been around the scene long enough to see what sort of lengths the club go to to make sure that all of the events are the best they can be within the control of the club.
If nothing else the tech info is surely worth the £20 a year! There are some very, very good and comprehensive threads on the board irrespective of whether you go to the events or not and don't see the benefit of the food etc :nod:
Rude Dog
05-01-2011, 20:25
Non members flogging their odds and sods, cars and spare parts on here must save them £20 easy in ebay/auto trader fees.
craig8585
05-01-2011, 21:10
It's pretty clear where it goes when you go to one of the big events that SXOC are at.
I appreciate that but I personally would be more likely to give if I could see officially what was being spent where. I don't see the harm in sharing that sort of information and can see a benefit from it - which would be a potential increase of members.
I agree the info on here is priceless but all of that information has come from us. We are sharing knowledge and this is the place where it is shared. We don't ask for anything when we make a technical comment or a how-to guide so why should we pay a premium to read it? Again, the for sale section - we all benefit from it and it doesn't cost the club and more money for us using the section.
I'm not trying to get anyones back up or start a keyboard riot, just mentioning a point that hasn't been expressed properly so far.
:)
I appreciate that but I personally would be more likely to give if I could see officially what was being spent where. I don't see the harm in sharing that sort of information and can see a benefit from it.
I think the information is available in the members area...
craig8585
05-01-2011, 21:16
Ah, I didn't know that. Would it be worth sharing with the full population maybe?
Kieran_e1
05-01-2011, 21:28
Ah, I didn't know that. Would it be worth sharing with the full population maybe?
for what purpose? those who pay the membership see where their money is spent?
i know that might sound harsh but thats the facts of it?
craig8585
05-01-2011, 22:45
That's not harsh, just a fact. But referring to my previous statement..
I personally would be more likely to give if I could see officially what was being spent where. I don't see the harm in sharing that sort of information and can see a benefit from it - which would be a potential increase of members.
to be honest, the only reason i havent joined is that i dont have a paypal account:annoyed:. if there were an alternative payment method, ie debit card, then i would join in an instant:thumbs:. the site is great and the people ive spoken to have helped me so much with advice, i cant fault it. i havent been to any meets since joining due to my wifes illness (breast cancer:down:), but now shes on her feet :clap:im going to get to as many as i can. keep up the good work SXOC, ill be a member eventually:sxoc:
zeppelin101
05-01-2011, 23:33
to be honest, the only reason i havent joined is that i dont have a paypal account:annoyed:. if there were an alternative payment method, ie debit card, then i would join in an instant
Bank transfer! I don't think there is any excuse for not having online banking at least these days, my life would be a right pain in the arse without it the amount of money I shift between myself and family members :wack:
Evilchap
05-01-2011, 23:38
I didn't have paypal for the first few years, I just asked my local rep nicely to take cash from me, and the job was done. I know this was down to my local rep, and I got to know lots of people local to me, and got involved, so this wasn't much of an issue... but as said, there's always bank transfer, or just get the club bank details and pop into the nearest branch and pay in cash with the right reference and you're done, cost you 1 lunch break :wack:
Have been a member, and am hoping to renew soon. My main dive is the 13 tech, and never took advantage of any of the membership apart from the weekender and that alone was worth double joining fee.
The one downside I had from being a member, was my lack of a keyring. :-/. I never got one in my welcome letter, seen a thread by Mark I believe, telling people to message someone if you had been missed, did it, and still no keyring. :-(
I would join up if I could receive some reassurance of this illusive keyring? :-/
The one downside I had from being a member, was my lack of a keyring. :-/. I never got one in my welcome letter, seen a thread by Mark I believe, telling people to message someone if you had been missed, did it, and still no keyring. :-(
Not messeage 'someone' send an email to the merchandise email. Everyone who did has had one :nod:
If you renew and state you havent had one then you will get one but be quick as we are getting low and wont be doing them anymore (you get something else instead)
Rubix_Cube
06-01-2011, 09:19
to be honest, the only reason i havent joined is that i dont have a paypal account:annoyed:. if there were an alternative payment method, ie debit card, then i would join in an instant:thumbs:. the site is great and the people ive spoken to have helped me so much with advice, i cant fault it. i havent been to any meets since joining due to my wifes illness (breast cancer:down:), but now shes on her feet :clap:im going to get to as many as i can. keep up the good work SXOC, ill be a member eventually:sxoc:
A week today in Falkirk bud :)
The "Central" meet is always up that neck of the woods. Its a great night to meet us all. Brewers Fayre munch and then jovial banter.
the only reason i havent joined up, is simply, i feel i dont fit in. im a big time lurker, but i dont post much
and i dont earn enough to buy the group buys, well, not yet anyways.
but im SERIOUSLY tempted to join up..... im really contemplating it all the time, just to support the club, whether i get anything out of it or not! im practically at the paypal page everytime i read this thread lol
Rubix_Cube
06-01-2011, 09:35
just to support the club, whether i get anything out of it or not!
Trust me, you'll fit in :D I think I've bought one thing from the Group Buys in the 3 Years I've been a paid member. LOL
MalcolmGT
06-01-2011, 11:36
Well as i run a 200 spending £20 on something i get for free anyway is alot. i dont come on here alot and dont post alot i generally search old threads for information. the information is free for anyone, if your going to start charging people for the information then people would have no choice. however i thought the site was to help members who do not have a great knowledge of the cars and the problems and not to take moneuy for info.
i spend alot of money on petrol etc each month so althought you may say its not alot of money to you. it may be to others.
the money to what you get back in my eyes is not worth it.
everyone has a diff opionon and although others may not agree this is mine.
also further to my previous statement, on other forums you cant have sigs and avatars unless members, is that the case here?
And how much has this valuable technical information saved you? ;)
MalcolmGT
06-01-2011, 11:46
And how much has this valuable technical information saved you? ;)
nothing so far! it was too late
Kieran_e1
06-01-2011, 11:48
Well as i run a 200 spending £20 on something i get for free anyway is alot. i dont come on here alot and dont post alot i generally search old threads for information. the information is free for anyone, if your going to start charging people for the information then people would have no choice. however i thought the site was to help members who do not have a great knowledge of the cars and the problems and not to take moneuy for info.
i spend alot of money on petrol etc each month so althought you may say its not alot of money to you. it may be to others.
the money to what you get back in my eyes is not worth it.
everyone has a diff opionon and although others may not agree this is mine.
also further to my previous statement, on other forums you cant have sigs and avatars unless members, is that the case here?
this thread is all about opinions and everyone's is welcome.
The main reason this thread exists is to understand what the club can do to make more people seebfitf joining up.
More and more it is becoming apparent that those who choose not to join don:t see any more of the club than the forum which is absolutely their choice and perfectly acceptable also.
I think where most people who are members are struggling to understand is why people would choose not to get involved in the real world events and get real value for your 20 quid rathher than seeing as 20 quid just to view the forum.
There is so much more to sxoc than the forum and it's available to everyone who wants it
It is odd with all the guests we have on here but only 64 have voted on the poll :confused::(
It is odd with all the guests we have on here but only 64 have voted on the poll :confused::(
Possibly because "I'm a tight cnut" isn't one of the options :wack:
Sideways14a
06-01-2011, 12:00
FPMSLOL @ arry
There is so much more to sxoc than the forum and it's available to everyone who wants it
I have never been to an SXOC event (restraining order prob :wack:) but still feel the need to re-register all the time, not least because in the early years of my ownership i got a lot of noob questions answered and it helped me build my sx into what is today - broken and not moving :facepalm:
I know I'm a member and shouldn't be posting! But just to add I'm only a member now as it's part of being a trader. I wouldn't be a paid up member if I was not a trader, simply because I only use the forum and none of the other stuff the club offers. Not in a snotty nosed way, it's just I have no need for them. But if I had to pay to just use the forum, of course I would! I'd be happy to pay £10 to just be able to post and brows! Much like the supra club, your not allowed more than 25 post as a guest, then you have to pay up before you can post any more. 25 post is enough to tell if you like the forum.
MalcolmGT
06-01-2011, 12:25
this thread is all about opinions and everyone's is welcome.
The main reason this thread exists is to understand what the club can do to make more people seebfitf joining up.
More and more it is becoming apparent that those who choose not to join don:t see any more of the club than the forum which is absolutely their choice and perfectly acceptable also.
I think where most people who are members are struggling to understand is why people would choose not to get involved in the real world events and get real value for your 20 quid rathher than seeing as 20 quid just to view the forum.
There is so much more to sxoc than the forum and it's available to everyone who wants it
thanks Kieran for your response, to be fair i think alot of people just dont feel they post enough or would go to enough meets. i personally am only 22 so probably one of the youngest on here and more than likely would not get along with alot of the older members. seems more men on here rather than boys :p.
i am very grateful for the information you can find out on the site (even though sometimes you just get smart responses from people) and it does help.
It seems members are saying you get tech info pay up.
where my theory is that information is tehre to help others. although on here i dont know much, on the starlet forum itried to help as much as possible and expect nothing from it and dont expect them to become members. im happy in the knowledge the car wont go bang :).
i more than likely will end up paying the £20 but to some its alot of money, im not just a ticht c**t
Evilchap
06-01-2011, 12:31
There are plenty younger that 22, although I'd be interested to know the Average age? I am 'only' 26 ;)
zeppelin101
06-01-2011, 12:32
thanks Kieran for your response, to be fair i think alot of people just dont feel they post enough or would go to enough meets. i personally am only 22 so probably one of the youngest on here and more than likely would not get along with alot of the older members. seems more men on here rather than boys :p.
I'm 22 this year and get along fine with the majority of people I've met through the site.
tbh, the majority of the forum population might be late 20s to early 30s, but they're more like 5 year olds most of the time anyway :wack:
i personally am only 22 so probably one of the youngest on here and more than likely would not get along with alot of the older members. seems more men on here rather than boys :p.
LOL you are having a laugh, its like a kindergarten in here :wack: Have a look in the insurance section at all the 18 year olds moaning about having to pay 3k to insure their car :D
Plus we have Ricky who is only 13 :wack:
Maddog1982
06-01-2011, 12:43
28 here.
Mods any thought on taking a couple of quid monthly just to use the members forum? we could even have our own colour to show were the tight c*nt brigade :sxoc:
28 here.
Mods any thought on taking a couple of quid monthly just to use the members forum? we could even have our own colour to show were the tight c*nt brigade :sxoc:
The pain with that is the admin and having to keep track each month on who has and hasnt paid :(
Its hard enough just doing the yearly renewals :wack:
how about you stick £2 in a pot each month and at the end of the year you join for the following year ;) :thumbs:
i personally am only 22 so probably one of the youngest on here and more than likely would not get along with alot of the older members. seems more men on here rather than boys :p.
Not true at all.. theres quite a varied age range at shows and meets. I'm only 41 (fact) Ken is 83 now! :eek: :wack:
Our local meets, we've got people in their 20's, 30's and 40+ and we all get along just fine :)
Maddog1982
06-01-2011, 12:48
The pain with that is the admin and having to keep track each month on who has and hasnt paid :(
Its hard enough just doing the yearly renewals :wack:
how about you stick £2 in a pot each month and at the end of the year you join for the following year ;) :thumbs:
You know what I was actually considering that! :ghey:
Sideways14a
06-01-2011, 12:51
Average age of members on here is prob in the late 20s with perhaps Ken skewing the average up a bit :D
Lets face it, if you find it hard to scrape 20 quid together once a year then you have the wrong car. As i have said many times (and been flamed more than i can count) the 200sx is not a car for those on a budget or with financial issues.
Maddog1982
06-01-2011, 12:56
Average age of members on here is prob in the late 20s with perhaps Ken skewing the average up a bit :D
Lets face it, if you find it hard to scrape 20 quid together once a year then you have the wrong car. As i have said many times (and been flamed more than i can count) the 200sx is not a car for those on a budget or with financial issues.
What about those that dont drive a 200sx for those very reasons :D
I do own a 200sx and i do think the clubs awsome.
The project takes up all of my money :(
Im so poor due to the fact my s14 needs a engine
Oh and also i am 22.
The WKO import s14 with no engine at the moment is my second s body :)
MalcolmGT
06-01-2011, 13:01
wel didnt realise so many people were similar age if younger!
wel signed up anyway. stop all the whingers :p. also to show my support for the knowledge. will be abusing the meet ups to get moneys worth
wel didnt realise so many people were similar age if younger!
wel signed up anyway. stop all the whingers :p. also to show my support for the knowledge. will be abusing the meet ups to get moneys worth
Get out and meet some :nod:
Everyones pretty approachable, even the old ones :ken: :wack: :nod:
wel didnt realise so many people were similar age if younger!
wel signed up anyway. stop all the whingers :p. also to show my support for the knowledge. will be abusing the meet ups to get moneys worth
Kent meet is tonight I believe :D
Followed by the Essex meet on the 20th :thumbs:
Well as i run a 200 spending £20 on something i get for free anyway is a lot.
See, I see it another way. I charge myself out for around £150 an hour when Im working, sometimes more, but I probably give at least 50 hours a year to the club. That 50 hours could be a lot more profitable for me to spend doing something else, but if we all thought like that there wouldnt be a club at all.
If you can tell me the advice youve taken from here hasnt saved you considerably more than £20 Id call you a liar ......... its a self fulfilling prophecy :nod:
Maddog1982
06-01-2011, 14:04
See, I see it another way. I charge myself out for around £150 an hour when Im working.
Or £800 a night for the complete girlfriend experience :D
Or £800 a night for the complete girlfriend experience :D
For real, you even get to kiss me on the lips for that :nod: :ghey:
^^^ Posh bitch. Im only Sub £25ph:Plug:
It is odd with all the guests we have on here but only 64 have voted on the poll :confused::(
is there not a way to check where the guests most popular posting sections are, is it that alot of guests sign up to have access to the for sale section :confused:
It seems members are saying you get tech info pay up.
where my theory is that information is tehre to help others. i more than likely will end up paying the £20 but to some its alot of money, im not just a ticht c**t
Lets face it, if you find it hard to scrape 20 quid together once a year then you have the wrong car. As i have said many times (and been flamed more than i can count) the 200sx is not a car for those on a budget or with financial issues.
As above, if £20 is a lot of cash to you then you have priorities all in the wrong place. Might take some age and experience to see that but it's true. And as below....
but if we all thought like that there wouldnt be a club at all.
If you can tell me the advice youve taken from here hasnt saved you considerably more than £20 Id call you a liar ......... its a self fulfilling prophecy :nod:
exactly. You'd not have that info if others hadn't paid their membership. You're taking advantage of what others have paid for.
Not a pop at MalcolmGT specifically but this, really, in the cold light of day is how it stands.
Maddog1982
06-01-2011, 14:23
For real, you even get to kiss me on the lips for that :nod: :ghey:
:smitten::D
Not a pop at MalcolmGT specifically but this, really, in the cold light of day is how it stands.
I think that if people dont see value in the cost of membership they dont really want to be a part of the club, the membership cost should be in question, it really comes down to the person and the level of involvement they want to have in the club.
My membership lapsed due to a change in circumstances and i wasnt about a great deal, now that im back on more often i will probably cough up again as the club has done loads for me over the last few years and i guess its like most of us on here , you have to be involved to comprehend the true value of the membership fee, some of my best and closed friends i've met through the club, had some of the most entertaining not to mention drunken nights of my life, had my car fixed on numerous ocassions and all because 1 day i went along to a local meet. So £20.00 a year for imho somthing that did actually have a positive change to my life is more than worth it. :nod:
going back to the bank transfer thing, is this something that that is already in operation or are the payment methods still post or paypal :confused:
Bank transfer is available for renewals only at the monent but its something we are looking to bring in for all memberships. If you want to pay that way drop Jezz a PM and he will give you the details.
Bank transfer is available for renewals only at the monent but its something we are looking to bring in for all memberships. If you want to pay that way drop Jezz a PM and he will give you the details.
think it will make life easier for a lot of people who dont have or like to use paypal - im one of them :o:wack:
i'll speak to Jezz within the next few weeks, :thumbs:
That or get to a meet and give the cash to Byebye :)
Steve(S14a)
06-01-2011, 14:47
Would be good to have the TSC or similar back for national events. The 30 - 130 on MLR is extremely popular...
That or get to a meet and give the cash to Byebye :)
lol. will probably see dave before i see byebye if so i'll sort it either way :thumbs:
i will be paying mine next pay day but i only have 17£ till the 28th
iget payed 900
450 rent 50 petrol for month 100 shopping 200 on bills and the rest for car insurance and bits for my 14.
i think thats my priorities there.....
Sideways14a
06-01-2011, 22:15
How can anyone live on 17 quid for 22 days :wack:
Monkey Magic
06-01-2011, 22:38
I didn't renew recently because I wasn't really on the forum much around the time and forgot about the renewal pm :rolleyes:
Been getting bored of the s14 so I sold that, haven't touched the s13 for ages and have been playing with ae86's. Will get back onto the s13 at somepoint so will probably pay up again then. I tend to be more active on here if I am doing something with an s-body.
I don't really post that much unless I have met the users or if they are local. Have met some good people and friends through the site. I tend to only use the forum for tech stuff, parts and general browsing. The guides and info on these cars was worth paying the membership fee for alone (even though you can get it for free) Back in 2006 when I was working on my s14 I would have been stumped without the brilliant guides and build threads people have made on here. Learnt allot and got good contacts through this site.
The best discount I got was through srb power on a set of chargespeed wings, think the money off was more than the membership fee :thumbs:
I get bored of static shows and meets so only go to local ones (very occasionally) and even Japfest is getting a bit repetitive, any further costs loads in fuel which I'd rather be using for the car or getting me to a track day or drift event. I actually prefer the RSOC day at combe in july to Japfest, a much more relaxed atmosphere and usually better track action apart from the drifting. The prescott hill event looked a bit more up my street but it's miles away.
I think track days with split sessions for grip and drifting is the way forward if you want to get the numbers up. I would attend that :nod:
Evilchap
06-01-2011, 22:40
The prescott hill event looked a bit more up my street but it's miles away.
It's not that far, 2 hours roughly, and WELL worth the trip :D
Hugh Janus
06-01-2011, 23:04
I would happily join, and to be honest I keep on meaning to ask Mark (the local rep) to see what can be done.
I don't use Paypal (and probably never will) and i don't use online banking either
so
is it possible to pay in cash the local rep (Mark) and organise it that way?
Chriscooke
06-01-2011, 23:16
I actually prefer the RSOC day at combe in july to Japfest, a much more relaxed atmosphere and usually better track action apart from the drifting.
Martin have you got a link to this event? Pm me if you have :)
You don't have to have an s-body to go up the hill at prescot either which is something i'm not sure people are aware of ;)
Monkey Magic
06-01-2011, 23:23
It's not that far, 2 hours roughly, and WELL worth the trip :D
Really? Tbh I just jumped to the usual conclusion that anything remotely any good is usually miles away from us :wack:
When is it this year Ben? I expect Jo would like it apart from the camping bit :D
ricky3510
06-01-2011, 23:41
I wouldn't mind seeing the sxoc accounts if i was to become a member again. To actually see where the money gets spent.....
Kieran_e1
06-01-2011, 23:44
I wouldn't mind seeing the sxoc accounts if i was to become a member again. To actually see where the money gets spent.....
but then you'll see the head mods all get paid and we can't let that out now can we??
d'oh!!!!
ricky3510
06-01-2011, 23:45
but then you'll see the head mods all get paid and we can't let that out now can we??
d'oh!!!!
Kens car lol
Kieran_e1
06-01-2011, 23:50
Kens car lol
shit the secrets oot!!!!
Rubix_Cube
07-01-2011, 08:15
The prescott hill event looked a bit more up my street but it's miles away.
You southern fairy... Its a 7ish Hour trip and I think its worth it. 2 Hours is **** all, I do that every day for work. :thumbs:
The phrase you are looking for is MAN THE **** UP :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :p :p :p
You don't have to have an s-body to go up the hill at prescot either which is something i'm not sure people are aware of ;)
Hell, you don't even need to take a car :wack:
I didn't have a car at all the first year I went :nod:
I would happily join, and to be honest I keep on meaning to ask Mark (the local rep) to see what can be done.
I don't use Paypal (and probably never will) and i don't use online banking either
so
is it possible to pay in cash the local rep (Mark) and organise it that way?
Fook off I am not some lowly scummy rep :wack::D
Thats Pablo :D
and yes you can give either of us the cash :)
You don't have to have an s-body to go up the hill at prescot either which is something i'm not sure people are aware of ;)
I think most of the pics I took last year were non S bodies :wack:
Monkey Magic
07-01-2011, 09:46
You southern fairy... Its a 7ish Hour trip and I think its worth it. 2 Hours is **** all, I do that every day for work. :thumbs:
The phrase you are looking for is MAN THE **** UP :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :p :p :p
Bloody Northern monkeys thinking they are all that yet again :rolleyes: :D
It is more the case if I think it is worth my while to bother wasting my money on fuel to go that far. I'd want to go up the hill a fair few times, probably until I destroy a set of tyres.
It's not like you are travelling back in the same day is it? Try getting up at 3am and travelling 4 hours to Wales, drifting all day long whilst changing 8 sets of wheels as quick as possible to get more seat time and then travelling another 4 hours back home. 3am to 9pm of driving, I'd hardly call a 2 hour trip a long journey after doing that.
It is more the case if I think it is worth my while to bother wasting my money on fuel to go that far. I'd want to go up the hill a fair few times, probably until I destroy a set of tyres.
There is no way you would get enough runs up the hill to destroy a set of tyres :no: Think last year i got between 10 and 15 runs and as its around a mile long that equates to around 6 or 7 laps of a track.
You are also thinking the wrong way about the whole event. Its not about 'wasting money on fuel' its about going and having a great weekend with a load of like minded people. :)
Fook off I am not some lowly scummy rep :wack::D
Thats Pablo :D
ah, I can feel the love in the room :wack:
Prescott is sooo much more than that. Yes you get drawn in with the tracktime and its much fun, but the overall experience of the event, meeting the people and generally having a great time is what you'll remember most :nod:
Prescott is sooo much more than that, yes you get drawn in with the tracktime and its much fun, but the overall experience of the event meeting the people and generally having a great time is what you'll remember most :nod:
Indeed. The tent that rocked, err, rocked :smash:
Food was awesome. Events were funny. Algie on the mic is always a laugh. Algies a Cnt When the Crown Say BO Selecta is always funny too :D
Rubix_Cube
07-01-2011, 10:27
Bloody Northern monkeys thinking they are all that yet again :rolleyes: :D
It is more the case if I think it is worth my while to bother wasting my money on fuel to go that far. I'd want to go up the hill a fair few times, probably until I destroy a set of tyres.
It's not like you are travelling back in the same day is it? Try getting up at 3am and travelling 4 hours to Wales, drifting all day long whilst changing 8 sets of wheels as quick as possible to get more seat time and then travelling another 4 hours back home. 3am to 9pm of driving, I'd hardly call a 2 hour trip a long journey after doing that.
Having a laugh bud :p :thumbs:
This year we got to stay an extra night which was a big help to us far off travellers...
The year before was up at 7am with about 4 hours sleep, drive the hill all day, pack up tent, then drive 8 hours home. I'd been up in the end for like 16 hours, all driving....was ****ing KNACKERED LOL
With regards to the drifting thing, I've done similar for Crail. Up at 6am, drive to crail, arrive about 9, drift all day, drive home sun burned and sore....
You lot have it easy with all the best tracks doon south :cry:
Oh and Arry, the tent that rocked was renamed by me.....
Tent of Epilepsy
I walked in 5 ft and came out WITH epilepsy!! I didnt think it was something you could get... LOL
You lot have it easy with all the best tracks doon south :cry:
Not just the tracks mate; best houses, best jobs, best looking women, best food, best bars, best travel links. Not to rub it in or anything....
Monkey Magic
07-01-2011, 10:29
No no I do understand about the drinking etc, most of my mates are all petrol heads anyways so the conversation wouldn't be much different from a normal night out in my area.
10-15 runs is enough, I would have been pissed off if it was only a couple of runs like at wiscombe. You'd be surprised how quickly I can go through tyres :nod: :wack:
I will make an effort this year as I think the misses would enjoy something different for a change and Chris said he was going to go so someone I know from the SW I can tag along with.
Do you know a rough date? When does it get posted up? :)
I`v been a member since i have joined.
And for me being a foreigner it might be stupid, but I do attend a show/meet some times.
Perhaps people should attend one JAE/Weekender to justify their opinions on becoming a paid up member or not.
You know where you are paying for when becoming a member. So try a little harder to get the benefits that you can get.
:thumbs:
Do you know a rough date? When does it get posted up? :)
It's usually around July time IIRC :nod:
Kieran_e1
07-01-2011, 10:36
No no I do understand about the drinking etc, most of my mates are all petrol heads anyways so the conversation wouldn't be much different from a normal night out in my area.
10-15 runs is enough, I would have been pissed off if it was only a couple of runs like at wiscombe. You'd be surprised how quickly I can go through tyres :nod: :wack:
I will make an effort this year as I think the misses would enjoy something different for a change and Chris said he was going to go so someone I know from the SW I can tag along with.
Do you know a rough date? When does it get posted up? :)
ken didn't manage to kill a set of tyres and he wasn't holding his monster back so you should be ok lol.
The chat is usually not about cars but it's always funny as hell.
And lastly if your an event virgin and you bring a girl we all get a shot. It's the rules you see lol!!!
It's usually around July time IIRC :nod:
Be the 9th/10th July if it's in line with previous years
Monkey Magic
07-01-2011, 10:36
Having a laugh bud :p :thumbs:
Tent of Epilepsy
I walked in 5 ft and came out WITH epilepsy!! I didnt think it was something you could get... LOL
Yeah I knows you was :)
Hmm sounds like a fun tent :D (Electronic music by chance?)
Hmm sounds like a fun tent :D (Electronic music by chance?)
No, hard rockin' with a smoke machine and strobes :D
Rubix_Cube
07-01-2011, 10:38
You'd be surprised how quickly I can go through tyres :nod: :wack:
You thinking of drifting it? The track is rather narrow FYI. :confused:
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If you try and drift it you will crash 100% and that means the hill gets closed whilst they recover you and the rest of us get pissed off ;) We had a couple of bad offs last year which were honest accidents and we all felt for them :( but i doubt anyone trying to be a drift God would get any sympathy :wack:
Monkey Magic
07-01-2011, 10:47
ken didn't manage to kill a set of tyres and he wasn't holding his monster back so you should be ok lol.
The chat is usually not about cars but it's always funny as hell.
And lastly if your an event virgin and you bring a girl we all get a shot. It's the rules you see lol!!!
It's no worries I would have enough room for a couple of sets of wheels anyways, I run part worns but from the sounds of it and from seeing previous vids (think I saw kens car going up the hill) the corners are quite tight and narrow so yeah guess not really a drift course as such. (will give it a good go though)
I went to the haynes sxoc day does that count as loosing my virginity?
If not I could always leave the woman at home, cheaper :wack:
but i doubt anyone trying to be a drift God would get any sympathy :wack:
Stidi springs to mind :D
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/arryR32/Weekender%202010/IMG_1609.jpg
Shat himself :wack:
Monkey Magic
07-01-2011, 10:50
You thinking of drifting it? The track is rather narrow FYI. :confused:
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Loads of room down the bottom of the course :nod: :wack:
Nah seriously though I probably wouldn't want to mess everyone else's day up so would stick well within my limits.
Monkey Magic
07-01-2011, 11:08
If you try and drift it you will crash 100% and that means the hill gets closed whilst they recover you and the rest of us get pissed off ;) We had a couple of bad offs last year which were honest accidents and we all felt for them :( but i doubt anyone trying to be a drift God would get any sympathy :wack:
I never see it as anyone trying to a 'God' when drifting, just trying to have fun. Point taken though, I would be pissed if I missed out on track time due to someone coming off. There does look like some nasty banks just off the track heading towards trees and all sorts tbh.
Looking at the vid again it does look tight and bumpy on some of the exits but that first bottom right handers looks ripe for a bit of sideways action through it, would probably just stick to drifting that corner. It's hard to tell until you actually drive somewhere, I thought haynes was going to be really tight and hard to drift but it is not.
I never see it as anyone trying to a 'God' when drifting, .
I do when its not a drift day and any incident fooks up the day for everyone else. Dont get me wrong I like drifting but time and place etc. ;)
that first bottom right handers looks ripe for a bit of sideways action through it, would probably just stick to drifting that corner.
We had 2 people fall off there, one serious and one a lucky escape (see arrys previous post :wack:) It tightens up quite a bit on the exit so can catch you out :nod:
You serious dont need to drift it, its a fun tight twisty course that will test your driving :):thumbs:
the last right hander is where everyone shits it :D
the last right hander is where everyone shits it :D
Yeah - one wheel over the grass there and you're off for a barrel roll down to the car park :wack:
Monkey Magic
07-01-2011, 11:29
Yes I did notice that top corner :eek: could be very nasty indeed.
Ok I'll treat it as a hill climb day, will source some semi slicks for the 86. Is it all timed? Would be interesting how quick the old toyota can get up there compared to the 200's.
Yes I did notice that top corner :eek: could be very nasty indeed.
Ok I'll treat it as a hill climb day, will source some semi slicks for the 86. Is it all timed? Would be interesting how quick the old toyota can get up there compared to the 200's.
No timing gear runs on the day, but we could always time it from in-car footage ;)
nicksred14a
07-01-2011, 12:05
Iv never got round to doin it I should really plus havnt been to any meets in southwest or all round with sxoc :( but will try this year def the local 1s anyway
Evilchap
07-01-2011, 12:06
Haha, I think Dan@DB Power got a wheel or two off on that last corner in the S13 in 2009, with me in the car, and I did similar in the MX5 last year, epic fun, that's where I think most time can be made up on the lap, manning up on that last corner :D
nicksred14a - There's a meet this Monday night a few people from your area are coming to, you could tag along if you like ;)
Rubix_Cube
07-01-2011, 12:10
Haha, I think Dan@DB Power got a wheel or two off on that last corner in the S13 in 2009, with me in the car, and I did similar in the MX5 last year, epic fun, that's where I think most time can be made up on the lap, manning up on that last corner :D
My arse still quivers thinking remember the pace you took that last bend you loon :wack:
:eek:
You are also thinking the wrong way about the whole event. Its not about 'wasting money on fuel'
Unless your following graham B who takes the convoy back up the m40 3 junctions the wrong way :wack::D
Would be good to have the TSC or similar back for national events. The 30 - 130 on MLR is extremely popular...
30-130 days are awsome. I keep bleating on about them and will until we do one.....then I will bleat on about the next one:D
2 vmax boxes software and a laptop is all that is needed.....oh and a run way:D
Evilchap
07-01-2011, 13:01
My arse still quivers thinking remember the pace you took that last bend you loon :wack:
:eek:
Haha, should be in a 500hp+ S15 this year :D
Monkey Magic
07-01-2011, 13:07
Haha, should be in a 500hp+ S15 this year :D
Sweet, would be good to see that :cool:
Just watch out for stationary 4x4's :wack:
Rubix_Cube
07-01-2011, 13:19
Ben, I need a passenger ride!!!
Evilchap
07-01-2011, 13:22
They give everybody a head start, so 4x4s should be safe :wack:
Haha, should be in a 500hp+ S15 this year :D
Fook me is it April the 1st already :eek:
You didnt catch me out though ;):thumbs:
:wack:
Evilchap
07-01-2011, 13:32
Haha thanks :p
It's going to happen, you'll see, it'll live for 16/4 for my wedding day.
Sorry for going OT... let me get it back on topic...
SXOC is great, I through work use many many forums, and few have the atmosphere and friendlyness achieved here, hence why I spend all my spare time on here when I am not here for work :D
Rubix_Cube
07-01-2011, 13:56
Ben, you work? LOL
Monkey Magic
07-01-2011, 13:59
They give everybody a head start, so 4x4s should be safe :wack:
Good, keep your s15 away from them :whip: Feel free to ram raid them as much as you want in your 309, me and Kev found it quite funny at the time :D
I think I put this thread waaaay off topic ages before you did.
Just one more thing about prescott Mark, I remember you mentioning about it before but was it there you hired the bouncy castle gladiator ring? Drunken fights on those things are awesome fun, adding sumo suits in to the mix with boxing gloves only enhances the experience :nod:
Just one more thing about prescott Mark, I remember you mentioning about it before but was it there you hired the bouncy castle gladiator ring? Drunken fights on those things are awesome fun, adding sumo suits in to the mix with boxing gloves only enhances the experience :nod:
Yeah, all that jazz - Zorb balls too, and stuff like that :) It's a good laugh fella, seriously come along you'll enjoy it
Just one more thing about prescott Mark, I remember you mentioning about it before but was it there you hired the bouncy castle gladiator ring? Drunken fights on those things are awesome fun, adding sumo suits in to the mix with boxing gloves only enhances the experience :nod:
We have had sumo suits, zorb balls and a gladiator ring over the 3 years we have had the weekender. There has also been a car pull with prizes, we have a raffle supporting a charity with some great prizes, space hopper races, tug of war, rock tent, slushie machine, free cocktail bar, BBQ all weekend (morning/afternoon/evening), pub quiz, all night disco, prizes for the best cars etc etc etc :D
Monkey Magic
07-01-2011, 14:15
Yeah, all that jazz - Zorb balls too, and stuff like that :) It's a good laugh fella, seriously come along you'll enjoy it
Ok ok you have all sold it to me, the misses wants to do zorbing. Can I send her down the bank from the top corner? :D
Rubix_Cube
07-01-2011, 14:25
We have had sumo suits, zorb balls and a gladiator ring over the 3 years we have had the weekender. There has also been a car pull with prizes, we have a raffle supporting a charity with some great prizes, space hopper races, tug of war, rock tent, slushie machine, free cocktail bar, BBQ all weekend (morning/afternoon/evening), pub quiz, all night disco, prizes for the best cars etc etc etc :D
Mark you forgot the hot chicks selling cup cakes.... :hurl:
Mark you forgot the hot chicks selling cup cakes.... :hurl:
I have been trying to get that image out of my head and i had managed until you just mentioned it again :wack:
Rubix_Cube
07-01-2011, 14:35
Hahaha, thankfully no forfeit this year ¬_¬
loving the thread hi-jack
from how to make the club better to the weekender promotions thread :D :sxoc:
Evilchap
07-01-2011, 15:45
In fairness, the thread is more "Why haven't you coughed up - freeloading is bad mmmmkay" and weekender promotion goes hand in hand with convincing people to pay up :D
Hahaha, thankfully no forfeit this year ¬_¬
You were fit as:nod:
wel didnt realise so many people were similar age if younger!
wel signed up anyway. stop all the whingers :p. also to show my support for the knowledge. will be abusing the meet ups to get moneys worth
Your looking a bit green fella:D:sxoc:
In fairness, the thread is more "Why haven't you coughed up - freeloading is bad mmmmkay" and weekender promotion goes hand in hand with convincing people to pay up :D
this is truem tbh the weekender is deffinatley one for anyones caleder, the 2 i've attended have been ummm memorable to say the least :D
what are the dates for this years ? , ( i know the threads in the members sections and i need to pay to see that :p :)) but im hoping to attend again this year as long as it doesnt clash with my honeymoon :D
and yes i will be amember again shortly once i catch up with my local reps., :thumbs:
Rubix_Cube
08-01-2011, 10:05
You were fit as:nod:
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard
and yes i will be amember again shortly once i catch up with my local reps., :thumbs:
I was at you house all last weekend.
I was at you house all last weekend.
yeah, but me giving you money means more beer :wack: in fact i did give you money and it turned to beer :D
yeah, but me giving you money means more beer :wack: in fact i did give you money and it turned to beer :D
Wow your like a modern day JC:eek:
Wow your like a modern day JC:eek:
not sure if thats a good or a bad thing :wack:
only he had a chin :D
yeah, but me giving you money means more beer :wack: in fact i did give you money and it turned to beer :D
That was the month before and you didn't give me money, you gave me a bank card and pin number.
That was the month before and you didn't give me money, you gave me a bank card and pin number.
i think you will find when you first got to my house i handed you money - you went for a fag and came back with 8 cans of cider, blimey how much did you drink to forget that already :rolleyes::wack:
How did I forget about that, you don't need to worry about me remembering your pin number then.
How did I forget about that, you don't need to worry about me remembering your pin number then.
haha, thats fine if you do there is never any money in it - i have a wife remember or as you know a money gremlin :wack:
You two need a room or summit......no well fook of to msn:rolleyes:
This message was brought to you by the SXOC fun police:sxoc::D
It's a benefit of becoming a member, Kiz gives you all his cash.
:nod: so come on guests join up :wack:
I'm going to sign up, £20 for a year is fine, reckon I saved that £20 within the 1st month of using the site. Besides found my s13 on here, so I consider this the birth place of my child.
Rude Dog
11-01-2011, 20:08
:nod: so come on guests join up :wack:
Pot....Kettle :D
Pot....Kettle :D
indeed :D
i will be green by the end of this month , december/january is a long 7 week wait for payday again :( and £20.00 is Wayyyyyyy to much for a membership :smash::wack:
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